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Sep 28 10:13:00 <Tofe> morning
Sep 28 10:13:18 <Tofe> morphis: I'll plug your events in the QML code right away
Sep 28 10:26:58 <morphis> Shiggity: no, not yet but with having android working on the TP it should be easily doable with our libhybris related efforts
Sep 28 10:34:35 <Tofe> morphis: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/pull/13 here it is, quite straightforward
Sep 28 10:37:57 <morphis> Tofe: thanks, merged
Sep 28 10:39:22 <Tofe> I think we would also need to expose those special keycodes in QML, in case some future QML app (or even the cardshell) want to handle it a bit
Sep 28 10:39:49 <Tofe> At least I didn't see them in the Qt keys enum
Sep 28 10:58:47 <morphis> Tofe: they should just use the LunaNext QML plugin
Sep 28 10:59:12 <morphis> Tofe: ah and I think we need to add some animations for the gesture area as it was before
Sep 28 11:01:41 <Tofe> animations for the gesture area ?
Sep 28 11:01:58 <morphis> yeah
Sep 28 11:02:08 <Tofe> light going on the left or right, such stuff ?
Sep 28 11:02:21 <morphis> yes
Sep 28 11:02:42 <morphis> btw. I have a lot improvements for the emulator locally I will push in the coming days
Sep 28 11:02:57 <Tofe> ok, great :)
Sep 28 11:03:36 <morphis> ah and we have a appliance for virtual box now: http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports/images/qemux86/webos-ports-emulator-qemux86.zip
Sep 28 11:03:53 <morphis> you can just download, extract and import it into vbox and don't need to configure anything
Sep 28 11:05:01 <Tofe> ok, great; is an appliance simply harddisk+setup ?
Sep 28 11:05:38 <Tofe> (well, "simply", maybe not so simple)
Sep 28 12:03:34 <Tofe> morphis: I tried to reproduce the pre3 animation, but well, can't say I'm a gifted graphist :)
Sep 28 13:51:55 <stefan_schmidt> morphis: Have you been happy with the latest state of the maliit recipes or is anything missing before I send a PR to JaMa for them?
Sep 28 13:54:30 <Shiggity> morphis: I think I have the desktop version installed but I don't see Luna loading no matter what I do
Sep 28 14:01:50 <Shiggity> Also, what are the main differences/improvements made to webOS with Open webOS?
Sep 28 14:02:23 <Shiggity> I have LunaCE installed on my TP and the tweaks are nice
Sep 28 14:20:52 <morphis> stefan_schmidt: yes, I am happy with them
Sep 28 14:21:24 <stefan_schmidt> morphis: ok, will prepare a PR in the evening
Sep 28 14:24:45 <Tofe> morphis: maybe I could add a JustType field, almost empty right now, and send a signal when it is clicked ? That way you would have an entry point if you want to start maliit
Sep 28 14:30:48 <morphis> Tofe: sounds could
Sep 28 14:31:07 <morphis> Tofe: btw. the just type field on the card view is static
Sep 28 14:31:12 <morphis> it will never show any content
Sep 28 14:31:23 <morphis> it will trigger pushing the just type app to the fore ground
Sep 28 14:31:48 <morphis> Shiggity: regarding LunaSysMgr there are no real differences between webOS and Open webOS
Sep 28 14:31:59 <Tofe> Ok, it's just a big nice button
Sep 28 14:32:08 <Tofe> with default keyboard focus
Sep 28 14:32:10 <morphis> Shiggity: however in webOS ports we're currently reworking the UI to be based on future ready technologlies like qt5 and wayland
Sep 28 14:32:14 <morphis> Tofe: right
Sep 28 14:32:22 <morphis> Tofe: for that we need another window type
Sep 28 14:32:27 <Shiggity> morphis: cool
Sep 28 14:32:36 <Tofe> morphis: ok
Sep 28 14:32:36 <morphis> normal would be card but for the just type app we need a type called launcher
Sep 28 14:32:48 <morphis> Tofe: I also thought about moving the window model to C++
Sep 28 14:33:03 <Tofe> morphis: I saw this window type in your latest commit, I wondered what it was for
Sep 28 14:33:03 <morphis> Shiggity: if you want you can already try it
Sep 28 14:33:16 <Shiggity> oh?
Sep 28 14:33:17 <morphis> the launcher type is just for the just type application
Sep 28 14:33:29 <Tofe> morphis: ok
Sep 28 14:33:36 <Shiggity> where can I can get an IPK ?
Sep 28 14:33:42 <morphis> Shiggity: download http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports/images/qemux86/webos-ports-emulator-qemux86.zip, extract it and import it into VirtualBox
Sep 28 14:33:51 <morphis> Shiggity: no, you can't try it on the TP
Sep 28 14:34:18 <Shiggity> ok so that's a virtual appliace ready to do?
Sep 28 14:34:20 <Shiggity> er go
Sep 28 14:34:26 <Shiggity> appliance*
Sep 28 14:34:43 <Tofe> morphis: "moving the window model to C++", what do you mean exactly ? the window currently wrapped by WindowWrapper is already C++, isn't it
Sep 28 14:35:31 <morphis> Tofe: I mostly mean a QList for the native windows wrapped by a QML component
Sep 28 14:36:31 <Tofe> morphis: oh, ok. Well, why not.
Sep 28 14:36:52 <morphis> Shiggity: yes, it's working on the Galaxy Nexus and N7 too
Sep 28 14:40:17 <Shiggity> morphis: what're the login creds?
Sep 28 14:44:19 <morphis> Shiggity: just enter root
Sep 28 14:44:25 <morphis> Shiggity: but you should not need them
Sep 28 14:44:32 <Shiggity> yeah did that
Sep 28 14:44:39 <Shiggity> I can't do much else after
Sep 28 14:44:39 <morphis> currently the console and ui are fighting for the screen
Sep 28 14:44:48 <morphis> so just click somewhere into the screen
Sep 28 14:45:20 <Shiggity> I'm clickng all over and nothing
Sep 28 14:45:29 <morphis> hm
Sep 28 14:45:39 <Shiggity> I'm rebooting it
Sep 28 14:46:04 <morphis> let me download it
Sep 28 14:46:08 <Shiggity> k
Sep 28 14:46:19 <morphis> I am mostly working with my own build environment locally
Sep 28 14:46:24 <Shiggity> ah
Sep 28 14:46:46 <Shiggity> ok after the reboot I got the title bar to show the date
Sep 28 14:46:55 <morphis> but it's mostly identical to the buildhost one but has a lot more changes which are still in development
Sep 28 14:46:58 <morphis> yeah
Sep 28 14:47:04 <morphis> click somewhere
Sep 28 14:47:10 <morphis> the launcher and launching apps should work
Sep 28 14:47:50 <Shiggity> I can't even get the Launcher to load up
Sep 28 14:48:00 <morphis> hm
Sep 28 14:50:59 <Shiggity> I know it's super early, but once y'all have native TP-bound alphas and betas I'd be glad to help test on my hardware.
Sep 28 14:53:48 <morphis> Shiggity: hm, yes you're right, the UI is a little bit broken currently
Sep 28 14:54:38 <Shiggity> yup
Sep 28 14:54:53 <Shiggity> the botton moon bar thing randomly pops up and down., right?
Sep 28 14:56:58 <morphis> yes
Sep 28 14:57:05 <morphis> thats the console and ui fighting for the screen
Sep 28 14:57:07 <Shiggity> good... it's not just me lol
Sep 28 14:57:08 <Shiggity> ah
Sep 28 14:57:09 <morphis> will fix that soon
Sep 28 14:57:13 <Shiggity> ok no rush heh
Sep 28 14:57:29 <morphis> Shiggity: btw. its not likely that all this work will come to the TP as long as no body takes care about the porting
Sep 28 14:57:35 <morphis> it's not just about installing a ipk
Sep 28 14:57:53 <Shiggity> oh yeah I understand that
Sep 28 14:58:08 <Shiggity> but if someone here takes that effort, and needs a tester I'd totally do it
Sep 28 14:58:39 <Shiggity> I think I read on webosnation's forums that 'Chomper' has ported openWebOS to the TP
Sep 28 14:58:43 <Shiggity> a chinese dev
Sep 28 14:58:51 <morphis> really?
Sep 28 14:58:53 <Shiggity> though I didnt' read too much into it
Sep 28 14:58:54 <Shiggity> yeah
Sep 28 14:59:06 <morphis> ok, but we're always different from what openwebos is
Sep 28 14:59:22 <Shiggity> heh
Sep 28 15:00:06 <morphis> for example we're using systemd which requires a linux kernel >= 3.0 but gives you great boot times
Sep 28 15:00:06 <Shiggity> I just wish there was a native Linux (Arch came close) for ARMv7 tablets like the TP, but I won't get into that here since that's not what this channel is for :)
Sep 28 15:00:12 <Shiggity> ah
Sep 28 15:01:26 <Shiggity> Also, I'm by no means a developer. I'm just an enthusiast of this stuff (Linux stuff in general) and it interests me
Sep 28 15:01:37 <Shiggity> I'll help test whatever is needed
Sep 28 15:14:03 <morphis> Shiggity: great
Sep 28 15:14:16 <morphis> I will ping you for this
Sep 28 15:14:55 <Shiggity> sure
Sep 28 15:19:50 <Tofe> morphis: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/pull/15 this time with a little screenshot :)
Sep 28 16:18:42 <Tofe> morphis: the  search-field-bg-launcher.png image would be the one to use; but in qml it's a bit hard to stretch only the center of the image, so it looks a bit ugly
Sep 28 16:20:06 <Tofe> oh, wait, I've just rediscovered the BorderImge element... perfect.
Sep 28 16:27:44 <morphis> :)
Sep 28 16:28:00 <morphis> Tofe: btw. and the text inside the search field should be white and use another font
Sep 28 16:31:48 <Tofe> morphis: ok.
Sep 28 16:32:18 <Tofe> morphis: ah, the BorderImage isn't smart enough when the source image is too big for the corners to fit in...
Sep 28 17:00:20 <stefan_schmidt> JaMa: https://github.com/meta-qt5/meta-qt5/pull/29 whenever you have time or feel motivated.
Sep 28 17:00:43 <stefan_schmidt> JaMa: morphis tested these on the device and seems happy with them.
Sep 28 17:53:34 <Tofe> morphis: I don't see any easy way out of this png... I'll try to rebuild it as an svg image
Sep 28 18:22:55 <morphis> Tofe: ok, as I think we should be use it to improve als the rendering performance
Sep 28 18:24:08 <morphis> btw. do you looked how it was scaled in luna-sysmgr?
Sep 28 18:47:26 <JaMa> stefan_schmidt: it belongs to oe-devel ML as README says, but I'll add it to my queue after weekend
Sep 28 18:47:56 <JaMa> now time for food, bbl
Sep 28 18:54:47 <Tofe> morphis: well, I tried, but didn't understand exactly how it is used
Sep 28 20:03:46 <stefan_schmidt> JaMa: "You are encouraged to fork the mirror on github https://github.com/meta-qt5/meta-qt5/ to share your patches, this is preferred for patch sets consisting of more than one patch. Other services like gitorious, repo.or.cz or self hosted setups are of course accepted as well, 'git fetch <remote>' works the same on all of them. We recommend github because it is free, easy to use, has been proven to be reliable and has a real
Sep 28 20:03:46 <stefan_schmidt> ly good web GUI.
Sep 28 20:04:01 <stefan_schmidt> JaMa: preferred way to share patches
Sep 28 20:04:45 <stefan_schmidt> JaMa: I normally do patches via mail and would be happy to do it here as well. It just did read differently to me. :)
Sep 28 20:05:13 <stefan_schmidt> JaMa: ah, there is a bit about sending pull requests to the list
Sep 28 20:05:23 <stefan_schmidt> JaMa: Just seen :)
Sep 28 20:05:54 <stefan_schmidt> Will sent it after dinner
Sep 28 20:44:26 <JaMa> stefan_schmidt: yes exatly that bit :)
Sep 28 22:42:50 <jlai> morphis: re fighting with console on emulator, take a look at setup_tty in http://cgit.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/tree/src/weston-launch.c
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