**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 21 02:59:59 2013 Oct 21 06:06:10 JaMa: ping Oct 21 07:12:43 morning Oct 21 07:16:50 Tofe: morning Oct 21 07:17:06 Tofe: the builds finished successfully on jenkins now Oct 21 07:17:58 yepee, I'll start the download Oct 21 07:18:51 morphis: we still don't have a zipped maguro rootfs produced ? Oct 21 07:19:01 we have one Oct 21 07:19:14 oh, a zipped extfs ? Oct 21 07:20:21 ah you don't need to use the ext image anymore Oct 21 07:20:27 there is a better way Oct 21 07:20:38 still waiting for HaDAk to document it Oct 21 07:21:23 Tofe: lets wait until http://jenkins.nas-admin.org/job/webos-ports_setup_webos-ports-dev-image_maguro/287 is finished Oct 21 07:21:34 I will tell you how to get it on your device with the new method then Oct 21 07:21:57 ok ! Oct 21 07:40:48 Tofe: hm I saw the input method now Oct 21 07:40:54 once I started luna-next Oct 21 07:41:05 I open an app, set the focus to an input fiel Oct 21 07:41:10 s/fiel/field/ Oct 21 07:41:13 nothing happens Oct 21 07:41:39 when I swipe up then the app screen gets black, I see the keyboard which then moves down and I come back into card view Oct 21 07:42:54 with your tofe/dashboard-work branch Oct 21 07:44:52 wow, not exactly what I hoped for Oct 21 07:47:22 morphis: looks like you have some issues with jenkins :) Oct 21 07:47:32 yeah Oct 21 07:47:37 I am fighting .. Oct 21 07:49:30 for the keyboard, I think it tries to show up on focus, but a bug in my code must do it all wrong, and you only see it quickly when you discard it. Except, of course, that my code doesn't discard overlays anymore... Quite buggy. Oct 21 07:52:35 tonight I should have both rootfs for maguro and qemu, I'll be able to debug that. I think we're not so far from making it working a bit Oct 21 07:56:27 ok Oct 21 07:56:43 maybe JaMa has merged the outstanding patches for meta-qt5 by then Oct 21 08:28:11 morphis: your build seems to be finished successfully Oct 21 08:29:13 Tofe: http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports-staging/wip/images/maguro/webos-ports-package-maguro.zip is the one you need Oct 21 08:29:20 and you need CWM on your device Oct 21 08:33:40 ah, install via recovery, insteresting Oct 21 08:34:53 yeah Oct 21 08:44:24 morphis: this install link seems ok to you ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1757146 Oct 21 08:44:58 looks fine Oct 21 08:45:17 then put the zip on the device and install it through the recovery Oct 21 08:45:30 after that you can boot the kernel with fastboot boot or flash it to the boot partition Oct 21 08:45:34 that should be all Oct 21 08:46:03 looks easy Oct 21 09:33:32 morphis: I'm not sure to understand what it means to not destroy the surface for maliit or for a webapp Oct 21 09:35:17 ah, you destroy the associated client instead Oct 21 09:38:38 Tofe: right Oct 21 09:38:54 Tofe: only webappmanager and maliit-server are allowed to stay after their surfaces are destroyed Oct 21 09:39:25 the code currently lacks the case where a app which has multiple windows open but one is closed then the app gets killed regardless wether the other windows are still open Oct 21 09:40:23 maliit has multiple windows? Oct 21 09:41:10 no Oct 21 09:41:19 the nemo keyboard has not Oct 21 09:41:24 but the maliit one has somehow .. Oct 21 09:42:37 ok Oct 21 09:43:10 but then it will create multiple overlays ? Oct 21 09:43:48 Tofe: the maliit keyboard works somehow with hidden windows, don't ask me Oct 21 09:44:01 :) ok Oct 21 09:44:04 I removed it so we're use the nemo one and don't have care about it for now Oct 21 09:44:14 later we want to get it back because it has more features Oct 21 09:44:21 morphis: pong Oct 21 09:44:31 JaMa: you saw my meta-qt5 patches? Oct 21 09:53:00 yes, they are in jansa/test branch for jenkins world builds already Oct 21 09:53:36 JaMa: even the last one I sent yesterday? Oct 21 09:54:19 last one added just now Oct 21 09:55:41 ok Oct 21 09:56:45 JaMa: so when do you think they will go into master/dora? Oct 21 10:07:38 I guess I can merge them right now to master Oct 21 10:07:58 done Oct 21 10:13:48 JaMa: thanks Oct 21 10:14:03 JaMa: can you also bump it within webos-ports? Oct 21 10:14:47 yes Oct 21 10:15:18 but will probably push it without test Oct 21 10:15:43 ok Oct 21 10:50:58 morphis: ah what about that image for qemux86 machines? Oct 21 10:51:38 2013-10-19.log:00:57 <+JaMa> morphis: should we build normal image as well as webos-ports-emulator-appliance for qemux86* machines? Oct 21 10:52:57 and webos-ports-emulator jenkins job is replaced by webos-ports-emulator-appliance recipe, right? Oct 21 10:58:45 JaMa: the webos-ports-emulator-appliance recipe should build the normal webos-ports-dev-image as dependency Oct 21 11:10:25 ok, dropped from jenkins job, so we don't build it twice Oct 21 11:37:45 ok Oct 21 13:28:47 morphis: qemux86 image built Oct 21 13:29:26 and maguro downloaded -> I'll start the rebuild of that one now Oct 21 13:34:43 morphis: for this meta-qt5 patch, should I update my dora branches and my build ? Oct 21 13:42:18 Tofe: the patches should be already within meta-qt5 Oct 21 13:42:32 so if you update your build env to dora (also for common) then you should be fine Oct 21 13:42:41 morphis: be aware that tmpfs isn't big enough to build all 6 MACHINEs in one go (with webos-ports_setup_webos-ports-dev-image_all) webos-ports_setup_cleanup needs to be executed at least once between some machines, but after webos-ports_setup_rsync! Oct 21 13:43:41 I've manually removed some directories from WORKDIR in tmpfs now and restarted qemux86-64 build Oct 21 13:43:44 JaMa: ok Oct 21 13:44:36 Tofe: but http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports-staging/wip/images/maguro/webos-ports-package-maguro.zip should have now everything you need Oct 21 13:45:14 morphis: yes yes, I just wanted to have a build on my side too Oct 21 13:49:22 :) Oct 21 14:15:34 morphis: if you update changelog repo, I'll close the staging (to retest the jenkins jobs) Oct 21 15:14:53 morphis: you sent me this link before -> http://www.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Stabilizing <- but how am i supposed to opkg-update if i have no wifi? >_> Oct 21 16:19:59 JaMa|Off: let me do that later today Oct 21 17:01:19 morning Oct 21 17:05:57 hey Garfonso Oct 21 17:08:50 HaDAk: we need to fix wifi before Oct 21 17:08:56 Garfonso: hey Oct 21 17:09:04 Garfonso: there are still several issues with the update app Oct 21 17:09:07 already fixed some Oct 21 17:09:24 morphis: yeah. it was kind of less than a question Oct 21 17:17:42 HaDAk: did you already started with the new install guide? Oct 21 17:18:07 morphis: i'm doing that today, right after i send an update out on this case. i couldn't get to it this weekend because i was on rollercoasters :) Oct 21 17:18:25 HaDAk: ah, ok :) Oct 21 17:28:40 JaMa|Off: changelog updated Oct 21 17:37:19 Garfonso: the problem with app current is that when you run the deploy script the build output isn't working when you copy it to the device Oct 21 17:38:11 ok that was easy. Oct 21 17:38:32 morphis: one thing that i wasn't sure about in creating this howto…you had me grab a fresh copy of luna-next. do i need to include that? Oct 21 17:39:30 yes, I never used the deploy script, actually... I don't really like that and it makes debugging the app nearly impossible Oct 21 17:50:58 can fixing wifi be a top priority? it would make testing a million times easier. Oct 21 17:54:06 the id change does not really work for me.. Oct 21 18:00:57 HaDAk: NO Oct 21 18:01:05 morphis: dammit. why not? T_T Oct 21 18:01:26 HaDAk: cause its included by default in recent images Oct 21 18:01:36 the fix is? Oct 21 18:01:40 wait Oct 21 18:01:41 what? Oct 21 18:01:45 wifi or luna-next? Oct 21 18:01:49 luna-next Oct 21 18:01:54 ok. Oct 21 18:01:55 lol Oct 21 18:02:03 Garfonso: hm, thats the way how things are currently working Oct 21 18:02:06 we can change that later Oct 21 18:02:15 alright, i'll update my notes and whip together a howto Oct 21 18:02:24 great Oct 21 18:02:36 Garfonso: you need to put the app also in a directory called org.webosports.app.update Oct 21 18:03:51 just gotta figure out where i PUT my notes Oct 21 18:11:58 who can give me edit permissions on the wiki? O_o Oct 21 18:16:04 HaDAk: I can, what's your username? Oct 21 18:16:11 I think you have already? Oct 21 18:16:13 Herrie: same as here Oct 21 18:16:20 i don't see any edit links on it Oct 21 18:16:23 Just make sure to login, Wiki often logs you out automatically Oct 21 18:16:36 it says i'm logged in Oct 21 18:16:46 You updated Bug Reporting Guidelines last week? Oct 21 18:17:13 did i? Oct 21 18:17:18 my head is swimming Oct 21 18:17:21 bear with me Oct 21 18:17:57 Not sure which access I should give you again... Scoutcamper? Oct 21 18:17:58 yes, you are correc Oct 21 18:18:00 interesting Oct 21 18:18:07 i have edit for every other page Oct 21 18:18:09 just not THIS one Oct 21 18:18:10 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Testing_Nexus_7 Oct 21 18:18:19 Let me check that Oct 21 18:18:46 or contributors, not that i need it Oct 21 18:19:28 unless i get to officially join the webos ports team O_o Oct 21 18:19:29 Just made you bureaucrat & administrator Oct 21 18:19:32 That should work :P Oct 21 18:19:47 You can do the same as Morphis in Wiki now ;) Oct 21 18:20:00 thanks Herrie :) Oct 21 18:20:29 yep. that worked. Oct 21 18:30:51 morphis: thanks 005 closed Oct 21 18:37:45 what are we officially calling this port? webOS-Ports? Oct 21 18:37:53 Open webOS? Oct 21 18:38:20 webOS Ports Open webOS ? Oct 21 18:38:23 Or WOP for short? Oct 21 18:39:20 webOS-Ports Open webOS? that's a mouth ful. Oct 21 18:39:27 mouthful, even Oct 21 18:40:27 webOS-Ports presents webOS-Ports Open webOS by webOS-Ports Oct 21 18:40:33 Yeah LOL Oct 21 18:41:54 oh, look. it's a real, live EricBlade :) Oct 21 18:42:18 i'm here! Oct 21 18:44:26 how about that. :) Oct 21 18:44:32 i'm just finishing up install instructions Oct 21 18:45:46 it's impossible to see extensions with these really long filenames… http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports/images/grouper/ Oct 21 18:45:48 somebody should fix that. Oct 21 18:46:04 also, morphis, where are images currently going? do we have a static link to the "latest" build? Oct 21 18:47:50 and could it easily be http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports/images/grouper/webos-ports-package-grouper.zip Oct 21 18:47:51 ? Oct 21 18:56:25 HaDAk: yes, http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports/images/grouper/webos-ports-package-grouper.zip is correct Oct 21 18:56:37 HaDAk: btw. the guide should be the same as for the GNexus Oct 21 18:56:52 morphis: can you make sure that link doesn't 404 then? :) Oct 21 18:56:59 and tell me what you think of this: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Testing_Nexus_7 Oct 21 18:57:15 HaDAk: the link will be valid soon Oct 21 18:57:25 ok Oct 21 18:57:36 HaDAk: little typ: "remoot system now" Oct 21 18:58:01 oops Oct 21 18:58:23 fixed. thanks. Oct 21 18:58:23 HaDAk: and btw. the list is starting with 1. after the code snippet Oct 21 18:58:31 yeah, i noticed that Oct 21 18:58:38 not sure how to fix it yet. Oct 21 18:58:53 maybe Herrie knows Oct 21 18:58:53 just wanna make sure the information looks correct and there aren't any glaring typos, then i'll go back through and fix it Oct 21 18:59:05 HaDAk: overall it looks good Oct 21 18:59:14 but I would not depend on a specific version of CWM Oct 21 18:59:22 also, would it be helpful somewhere to put up instructions on enabling adb in android? i took screenshots and highlighted stuff…till i realized we didn't really need it here Oct 21 18:59:31 just say CWM is required and add the download link to the overview page Oct 21 18:59:42 :) Oct 21 18:59:48 yeah, i'm looking for the overview page. i only had that direct link handy. Oct 21 18:59:53 not sure where i grabbed it from >_> Oct 21 19:00:00 HaDAk: we should give the guide someone to test Oct 21 19:00:40 do we need a guide on removing webOS? Oct 21 19:00:59 hm Oct 21 19:01:00 would be good Oct 21 19:01:12 at least for getting back to android Oct 21 19:01:30 yeah. haven't actually tried that. i'd assume we need a new kernel to flash. Oct 21 19:01:33 HaDAk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Restoring_Android Oct 21 19:01:42 nice. Oct 21 19:01:49 it would be awesome if we could dual boot through our kernel. Oct 21 19:01:49 HaDAk: right, just the kernel is needed Oct 21 19:04:08 that's better. Oct 21 19:04:18 ok, now i'll work on the restore wiki Oct 21 19:05:16 HaDAk: possible later Oct 21 19:05:35 morphis: one thing at a time. i'd rather have a working image than the ability to dual boot on the fly. Oct 21 19:05:47 Garfonso: can you fix the app to work for now as deployed app? Oct 21 19:05:53 i don't see grouper on here? https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images Oct 21 19:06:16 HaDAk: it's nakasi (wifi only version) Oct 21 19:06:22 https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#nakasi Oct 21 19:06:28 i thought it was grouper? Oct 21 19:06:51 EricBlade: can you find out if this is open sourced or not? http://cl.ly/image/11073G1k3m3u Oct 21 19:06:56 EricBlade: please, and thank you Oct 21 19:08:42 or, does halfhalo still work on that team? Oct 21 19:08:48 wiki suggests he at one point did Oct 21 19:08:59 pretty sure halfhalo is still around Oct 21 19:09:11 see, i didn't even know that until today. Oct 21 19:09:15 i doubt that that icon is available, i don't think it appears in anything that has been released Oct 21 19:09:27 EricBlade: who can we ask for permission to use it? Oct 21 19:09:36 having continuity for updates would be nice. Oct 21 19:09:55 i would ask Enda Oct 21 19:10:35 JaMa|Off: great Oct 21 19:10:40 EricBlade: who is Enda? Oct 21 19:11:26 EricBlade: furthermore, it would be really nice to have the source files for that image IF we can get them to open source it Oct 21 19:11:48 JaMa|Off: btw. is it correct that the manifest isn't anymore in http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports/? Oct 21 19:13:25 hadak: Enda is @webosdev Oct 21 19:13:37 on twitter? Oct 21 19:13:39 maybe @openwebosdev too Oct 21 19:13:43 'cause my tweets are locked Oct 21 19:13:44 HaDAk: Enda McGrath Oct 21 19:13:50 oh, McGrath Oct 21 19:13:56 @endamcgrath too ;) Oct 21 19:14:04 you locked your tweeter? Oct 21 19:14:14 i locked my tweeter Oct 21 19:14:28 my ex was stalking it to gather information on me to use against me in court Oct 21 19:14:31 so i locked it Oct 21 19:14:59 can somebody ask, anyway? Oct 21 19:15:05 also, Enda…guy or girl? Oct 21 19:15:33 HaDAk: you can also ping Roy__ Oct 21 19:15:43 Roy__ might be able to help, true. Oct 21 19:15:52 [15:15:52] Roy__ signed on at October 7, 2013 11:52:04 PM EDT and has been idle for 1 Week, 5 Days, 19 Hours, 20 Minutes, 43 Seconds Oct 21 19:15:53 maybe not. Oct 21 19:16:07 if we say Roy__ three times, will he stop being idle? Oct 21 19:16:57 He's around usually ;) Oct 21 19:17:05 Enda = Guy ;) Oct 21 19:17:12 Scottish have funny names LOL Oct 21 19:17:22 It's least I gather he's Scottish based on the name ;) Oct 21 19:17:43 hah. thanks Herrie Oct 21 19:17:54 i'm just a trashy american. i don't know anything. Oct 21 19:17:56 * HaDAk sobs Oct 21 19:19:03 Roy just had a baby, don't bother him Oct 21 19:19:19 i didn't know Roy__ had a baby. good for him :) Oct 21 19:19:39 well, i think technically, his wife just had it. but it's his too Oct 21 19:21:04 OK sent msg to Enda on Twitter Oct 21 19:23:40 oh, well in that case, congrats to his wife, and for him...helping? Oct 21 19:30:24 morphis: I think that we haven't merged any "manifest-enabled" staging feed to public yet Oct 21 19:30:36 really? Oct 21 19:30:38 hm Oct 21 19:30:42 :) Oct 21 19:41:21 hum. if i use that icon as a template, and do all the work myself…is that considered copyright infringement? EricBlade? Oct 21 19:42:35 uh.. no idea Oct 21 19:42:47 :( Oct 21 19:43:18 morphis: eager to try out this new image. btw, are you updating the kernel each time? do i need to flash both the image AND the kernel? Oct 21 19:43:57 HaDAk: be carefull with that (icon as template)! Oct 21 19:44:07 morphis: that's the question Oct 21 19:44:12 normally i'd shy away from it Oct 21 19:44:17 but given the circumstances…? who knows. Oct 21 19:44:24 HaDAk: no, currently it's not required as we're updating the kernel not very often Oct 21 19:44:33 but I am planing to do it with the ota too Oct 21 19:44:48 ok, so in the future, it'll be OTA flashable? Oct 21 19:45:00 will it also be included in the .zip so you don't have to manually flash it? Oct 21 19:45:42 HaDAk: maybe Oct 21 19:46:00 also, looks like i maybe missed a step in my instructions. i don't see anything about flashing the kernel. Oct 21 19:46:12 is it fastboot flash bootloader ? Oct 21 19:46:22 no Oct 21 19:46:24 fastboot flash boot Oct 21 19:46:28 perfect Oct 21 19:46:29 thanks Oct 21 19:48:01 np Oct 21 19:56:34 interesting. issuing a halt from adb shell on grouper didn't power it off. Oct 21 19:56:44 i guess that's part of the power management stuff that's broken? Oct 21 20:03:04 HaDAk: use shutdown -h now Oct 21 20:07:21 ok. Oct 21 20:11:11 HaDAk: btw. in recent images you also get the system ui up when you long press the power key Oct 21 20:11:43 morphis: i'd love to see that. image isn't on the build server though. Oct 21 20:11:52 it is Oct 21 20:11:58 http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports/images/grouper/webos-ports-package-grouper.zip Oct 21 20:12:00 404 Oct 21 20:12:18 it's not in the public feed yet Oct 21 20:12:21 look within http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports-staging/latest/images/grouper/ Oct 21 20:12:29 aha Oct 21 20:12:38 HaDAk: when you look at http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports-staging/ Oct 21 20:12:43 you see the numbered folders Oct 21 20:12:45 yes Oct 21 20:12:50 those are the build numbers? Oct 21 20:12:57 those are merged after some testing to the public feed Oct 21 20:13:01 no, stage numbers Oct 21 20:13:08 one stage can consist of several builds Oct 21 20:13:21 gotcha Oct 21 20:13:26 i'm safe to grab latest? http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports-staging/latest/images/grouper/webos-ports-package-grouper.zip Oct 21 20:13:29 we do a new stage when we're ready for it then wip is moved into a new one which can be tested then Oct 21 20:13:30 yes Oct 21 20:13:56 i'll just focus on grabbing latest unless otherwise told Oct 21 20:15:00 will the kernel always be zImage-grouper.fastboot? Oct 21 20:15:39 yes Oct 21 20:15:42 thanks. Oct 21 20:15:49 i'm writing a shell script to download and update. Oct 21 20:16:51 HaDAk: but please don't link them in the wiki Oct 21 20:16:57 of course not Oct 21 20:16:59 this is for me Oct 21 20:17:00 users should always fetch image+kernel from public Oct 21 20:17:10 or, whomever else wants to test Oct 21 20:17:30 it's not about to hide them just to get possible user what they should use unless they want something unstable Oct 21 20:27:33 morphis: yes, I'll get it to work as deployed app. Oct 21 20:28:08 fixed the obvious stuff already. Oct 21 20:28:16 Garfonso: thanks Oct 21 20:28:39 Garfonso: I don't like the whole idea of carrying thousends of different frameworks around where all apps are using the same Oct 21 20:29:40 yes, that's true. Oct 21 20:30:12 If we have an enyo2 on device somewhere in /usr/palm/frameworks, we can strip it from the app. Oct 21 20:31:18 Garfonso: and then link it statically everywhere with /usr/palm/frameworks/.. as prefix? Oct 21 20:31:50 maybe we can add some magic to the deployment that changes this to be done automatically Oct 21 20:32:14 so locally you can continue with what you have and once you deploy those get replace with the correct on device paths Oct 21 20:33:27 not sure what would be the best way... Oct 21 20:35:29 but I think it should be possible to have the 130 kb enyo.js in /usr/palm/frameworks/enyo2 and also the libs folder with onyx and webos-lib and maybe system-ext... did work the same way for enyo 1.0. Oct 21 20:36:08 but that would require people changing their index.html Oct 21 20:37:08 one could try to publish a modified deploy script that only minifies the app and tries to change the link in the html file. Oct 21 20:38:27 yes Oct 21 20:38:39 lets keep this for the future and take it for now as it is Oct 21 20:39:55 sure. Oct 21 20:44:12 Garfonso: btw which emulator version are you using for testing? Oct 21 20:51:15 my image is from 18th of october Oct 21 20:52:09 HaDAk: btw. when you have some time and fun pretty up http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/Emulator a little bit? Oct 21 20:52:13 maybe with some screenshots Oct 21 20:52:40 yep. i haven't actually done it myself, but it'll be a good learning experience. Oct 21 20:52:41 there are actually strange things hapening. Some of the libraries are spiting out nasty errors. Not really sure why. :( Oct 21 20:52:57 Garfonso: you should try http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports-staging/latest/images/qemux86/webos-ports-emulator-qemux86.zip which will have multiple-window support Oct 21 20:53:06 Garfonso: which ones? Oct 21 20:53:13 morphis: did you look into getting the console output somehow? Oct 21 20:53:24 Garfonso: yeah I found something Oct 21 20:53:26 the webos-lib Oct 21 20:53:30 will implement it soon Oct 21 20:53:35 Garfonso: what kind of error? Oct 21 20:54:09 HaDAk: thanks Oct 21 20:54:18 no problem. Oct 21 20:54:43 undefined refernces... seems that stuff is used before it get's defined or otherwise. Not sure, yet.. Oct 21 20:55:30 Garfonso: ok Oct 21 20:56:19 Garfonso: the change needs webkit recompile so I am trying to defer it to see wether there are other changes needed for it too Oct 21 20:57:24 ok Oct 21 20:57:49 have to leave Oct 21 20:57:49 gn8 Oct 21 21:03:22 night morphis Oct 21 21:03:58 hmpf... the errors are not related. :( Oct 21 21:04:09 don't know... app does not come up, when minified. :( Oct 21 21:05:21 Garfonso: I recall having the same problem sometime ago when playing with PhoneGap.... Oct 21 21:05:31 Don't recall how I fixed it though :'( Oct 21 21:05:41 Together with Enyo that was.... Oct 21 21:06:32 Enyo 2 actually... Oct 21 21:07:03 Even the simple "Hello Worlds" wouldn't work for me... Was quite annoying... If I would only recall how I fixed it.... Oct 21 21:09:36 hm.. yes there was something about device ready... but I though enyo would do that for me? Oct 21 21:10:04 strange thing is, that the app works, if I just run debug.html .. but deployed and minified gives me issues. Oct 21 21:11:46 Yeah I had the same :S Oct 21 21:11:50 Silly stuff... Oct 21 21:12:00 Arrrggg how to fix it again.... Oct 21 21:12:39 ahh.. found the error. Something in system-ext lib was wrong. Oct 21 21:13:12 Seen this: http://blog.openwebosproject.org/post/39278618299/javascript-apps-for-open-webos-with-enyo-and-cordova Oct 21 21:13:14 ? Oct 21 21:14:42 I just saw the post on webos nation. Oct 21 21:14:50 did not now unwiredben was active there. Oct 21 21:15:25 yes, I've seen this Oct 21 21:15:48 I actually do this in preware 2 Oct 21 21:19:21 hmpf... now it runs on the old emulator, where I get nice log output but not really on the OWO emulator, where I don't get any output.. *sight* Oct 21 21:19:30 should probably get to sleep Oct 21 21:22:52 night everybody Oct 21 21:32:36 morphis: the build for the image is not using palm-package? And probably also doesn't need the package folder with the packageinfo.json? Oct 21 21:34:51 morphis: actually I'm lost now.. in the legacy emulator the app comes up. In the OWO one I still just get a white blank screen. The parts of the log, that I can see, are clear... without output from the js-app or at least error messages from the js-interpreter, I fear, I can't do much right now. :( Oct 21 23:00:29 can somebody please test my installer script on their nexus 7? http://pastebin.ca/2469667 Oct 21 23:00:37 i've run it through a few times, and it's worked each time Oct 21 23:00:43 but i need to know if it works for others Oct 22 00:14:54 hi folks Oct 22 00:15:23 hey LarrySteeze Oct 22 00:15:50 Guess who's touchpad finally bricked >=| Oct 22 00:15:58 bricked how? Oct 22 00:16:07 battery Oct 22 00:16:50 works if it's plugged in? Oct 22 00:16:52 also, brb Oct 22 00:16:58 This thing has been bruised and battered and tested and stitched and fixed and everything else over the years Oct 22 00:17:33 Nope. I'm sure it's not fully bricked just need to fix it Oct 22 00:28:05 aha. Oct 22 00:28:07 sorry. Oct 22 00:28:22 nothing like opening your mouth and having the aggregate sum of lunch and dinner come flying out at terminal velocity. Oct 22 00:28:49 LarrySteeze: you have a grouper? Oct 22 00:31:32 ... Oct 22 00:31:42 you sick? Oct 22 00:32:00 i dunno. i've felt like shit in various ways all day. Oct 22 00:32:33 and no, no grouper Oct 22 00:32:38 damn Oct 22 00:32:41 i wrote an installer script Oct 22 00:32:44 was thinking about getting one Oct 22 00:32:50 bash? Oct 22 00:32:53 yup Oct 22 00:33:02 http://pastebin.ca/2469667 Oct 22 00:33:12 i can still look at it if you need help Oct 22 00:33:21 it works. just needs external testing. Oct 22 00:33:33 also, it assumes you have an unlocked bootloader and cwm already installed Oct 22 00:33:40 not sure if i need to add that stuff in or not Oct 22 00:35:15 id leave it separate Oct 22 00:35:16 it needs a bit of cleanup, too. Oct 22 00:35:26 maybe add a verbose mode and a silent mode Oct 22 00:35:42 maybe take a look at it and tell me what you think? Oct 22 00:35:46 while i take this call anyway Oct 22 00:35:48 trying to feed my 2 week old Oct 22 00:36:00 so i cant focus too much atm Oct 22 00:37:43 how wide pf distribution do you realistically expect? Oct 22 00:45:49 hadak: let me know when you are back Oct 22 00:52:56 i'm back. still on the phone, but it's alright Oct 22 00:53:50 the script i wrote here wasn't designed to be the ONLY install method. it's just going to be helpful for me to install the latest builds Oct 22 00:54:10 the feed here is the latest bleeding edge stuff Oct 22 00:58:09 son is distracting again Oct 22 00:58:25 will bbiab to go over thoughts Oct 22 00:59:34 kk Oct 22 01:10:42 hadak: may i recommending utilizing ping Oct 22 01:11:01 and checks to ensure file exists Oct 22 01:11:01 does it get a network port? Oct 22 01:11:10 oh, for downloading the file? Oct 22 01:11:16 yes Oct 22 01:11:34 if i'm going to hand-hold that much, i might as well do a lot of other checks, too. Oct 22 01:11:53 if file does not exist, script will continue to run Oct 22 01:12:05 not fault of eu if site is down Oct 22 01:13:02 true. Oct 22 01:14:16 you do some handholding in areas that id let them fend for themselves Oct 22 01:14:36 so you have to add checks/errors in those areas Oct 22 01:14:52 that is if you genuinely want to dist Oct 22 01:15:22 if its just you sending to ppl via irc, no worries Oct 22 01:15:49 this was just for me to use for myself, and for other QA/testing people to use Oct 22 01:15:55 this isn't meant to be distributed widely Oct 22 01:16:22 then why do i need to qc it? Oct 22 01:17:21 in case i missed something obvious before handing it out to the rest of the people here Oct 22 01:17:55 usualy when i qc its for release :P Oct 22 01:19:05 also because i wanted to show off all my hard work T_T Oct 22 01:19:38 for what it is, its fine Oct 22 01:20:25 if you plan to distribute let me know and im happy to help prepare it with polls and queries Oct 22 01:21:57 thanks **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Oct 22 02:59:58 2013