**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 30 02:59:58 2013 Oct 30 03:13:59 hey ka6sox Oct 30 04:12:46 DDURI_, Maguro Oct 30 04:12:54 how goes it bhuey Oct 30 04:13:11 hey Oct 30 04:13:19 just doing kernel programming Oct 30 04:13:31 kewl Oct 30 04:13:54 was trying to install qemu so that I can run a beaglbone distribution on their ARM emulator but that was a big waste of time Oct 30 04:14:08 qemu crashed Oct 30 04:14:34 was going to do some side development with it but I think I have to use an older version of Ubuntu instead Oct 30 07:15:20 morning Oct 30 07:30:47 morning Oct 30 07:32:39 Herrie: thanks for taking care about some of our bugs Oct 30 07:33:04 Trying to help where I can :) Simple things like this I can manage LOL Oct 30 07:33:13 Email app should be OK now, it was on my 3.0.5 emu :) Oct 30 07:33:29 For some reason they didn't put icons in the images folder like with other apps Oct 30 07:33:45 So moved it there and updated appinfo.json to reflect it and seems to fix it Oct 30 07:34:46 so the original icon isn't part of github.com/openwebos/core-apps? Oct 30 07:37:30 Herrie: ah I see the problem Oct 30 07:37:40 Herrie: when you look at https://github.com/openwebos/core-apps/tree/master/com.palm.app.email Oct 30 07:37:43 They were included in app root but that didn't work for some reason. Other core apps had it in images Oct 30 07:37:50 or no Oct 30 07:38:16 it should be fine in app root Oct 30 07:38:36 So for consistency moved it there and updated appinfo.json and that works on my 3.0.5 emu. Oct 30 07:39:15 hm Oct 30 07:39:29 It should that's what I thought root or images shouldn't make a difference. Could be a bug in your/tofe's code somewhere? Oct 30 07:40:08 Anyway other core apps had it in images so for consistency moved them there for now and that seems to work around it at least Oct 30 07:41:15 hm Oct 30 07:43:27 Will try to see if I can fix some app bugs. For the Memo app. Where would we want settings for case sensitivity for example? Tick box below the search field or we want a panel for settings in general? Choorp used the left-most panel in Dash Weather+ and t Oct 30 07:43:27 hat's quite nice in my view. Oct 30 07:44:23 Herrie|TP: you're right, there is something wrong within the system: http://bpaste.net/show/NOKbFp5yfiKELr8C7Str/ (thats what the application manager returns) Oct 30 07:44:46 Herrie|TP: I think a settings panel would be good Oct 30 07:45:45 Ok, you ever looked at Dash Weather+? Might be nice to include for us as well. Looks beautiful and is a nice weather app :-) Oct 30 07:46:13 Yeah that path looks odd indeed! Oct 30 07:48:03 Has a widget and lockscreen widget on TP as well :-) Oct 30 07:52:47 Cannot find the link for ipk now, it's somewhere on WebOSNation... Oct 30 07:53:22 Herrie|TP: should be free to go into the preware feeds Oct 30 07:54:34 :-) Oct 30 07:54:45 www.choorp.org/projects/com.choorp.dash-weather-plus_1.6.1_all.ipk Oct 30 07:55:19 Gives you an idea about the settings panel on the left :-) Oct 30 07:56:24 For getting telephony working what needs to be done? I saw the basics of a phone app already but seems like it's only UI and no connection to telephony yet for buttons? Oct 30 08:03:55 Herrie|TP: the whole app needs to be written Oct 30 08:04:19 which is a rather complex thing Oct 30 08:04:27 UI wise and background logic wise Oct 30 08:05:02 Yeah that's what I figured might not be the best for me to start with then ;-) Oct 30 08:05:42 Not sure what features we want it to have in general? Call, hangup, contact, history? Oct 30 08:16:48 a fully functional phone app :) Oct 30 08:19:49 Yeah eventually but Rome wasn't built in 1 day either ;-) Key functions first, nice to haves later? Oct 30 08:22:48 1. simple call functionality, dial a number and make the call happen Oct 30 08:23:07 2. being able to pick a contact and call it Oct 30 08:23:12 3. history Oct 30 08:23:24 after that everything else Oct 30 08:25:06 OK :-) Anyway off to do some contruction work now, will be back later :-) Oct 30 08:50:07 garfonso: When you're back, seems Phonegap 3.0 is working with Enyo again? Came across this y'day which might be worth checking? https://github.com/rafabernad/enyo-bootplate Oct 30 09:38:39 morning Oct 30 09:39:38 morphis: should I use webos-ports-dev-package now to generate the update package on maguro ? Oct 30 10:19:00 Tofe: if you want some debug tools, yes Oct 30 10:19:06 like gdb Oct 30 10:22:16 oh yes, I want them :) Oct 30 10:23:04 ok, I now have an up-to-date image, both maguro and qemux86, with latest luna-next* hacks. Oct 30 11:07:17 great Oct 30 11:15:48 Sup Morphis Oct 30 11:15:56 OrokuSaki: ok Oct 30 11:16:05 =) Oct 30 11:16:08 OrokuSaki: let me explain how you should port webOS ports to a target device Oct 30 11:16:27 we're build a rootfs specifc for a single target device Oct 30 11:16:47 taking notes Oct 30 11:16:47 so you have to create some recipes to adjust the environment for your target Oct 30 11:17:10 first thing you need is the compiled phablet environment for your device Oct 30 11:17:25 it needs to be packed into a specific archive format Oct 30 11:17:28 OrokuSaki: see http://bpaste.net/show/VEqaA5h7ddvD3rkW5mY1/ Oct 30 11:17:54 so after you've did brunch ${MACHINE} you have to package the build results Oct 30 11:18:16 tar cjf ${ARCHIVE_NAME} system symbols ramdisk.img filesystem_config.txt Oct 30 11:18:25 yes Oct 30 11:18:36 but you need to run make target-files-package first Oct 30 11:18:57 This is different from.. last time Oct 30 11:18:58 OrokuSaki: btw. we've started a porting guide at http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/Porting_Guide Oct 30 11:19:02 yay! Oct 30 11:19:04 but it's still not finished Oct 30 11:19:14 I was thinking.. you still haven't written the porting guide yet. =) Oct 30 11:19:20 OrokuSaki: we've changed a lot Oct 30 11:19:32 yeah.. are you flipped now? Oct 30 11:20:21 we were never unflipped :) Oct 30 11:20:35 we're running android within a lxc container same way as ubuntu does Oct 30 11:20:48 ahhh okay... I was wondering about that Oct 30 11:20:50 but we're not touch the system/boot partitions Oct 30 11:21:16 we're extracting everything into a webos folder within the userdata partition Oct 30 11:21:25 so you can multiboot android/webos if you want Oct 30 11:21:34 That is the hard part... I remember just ripping off Tofe's github and replacing a name.... I figure it I can find out how X11 works with MultiTouch on my phone... then I will have an idea of what driver to use in WebOS? Oct 30 11:21:50 ev mtev, etc Oct 30 11:21:58 are we on X11 or Wayland or? Oct 30 11:22:02 wayland Oct 30 11:22:08 oh Oct 30 11:22:10 neat Oct 30 11:22:18 qt5/wayland/webkit2 Oct 30 11:22:21 Were we on X11 before? Oct 30 11:22:24 no Oct 30 11:22:26 oh Oct 30 11:22:30 okay Oct 30 11:22:40 OrokuSaki: so if you want to port I can guide you Oct 30 11:23:18 I do... Gotta get my phone back out.. Goals for my Touchpad are: Open WebOS, SailFish\Nemo Oct 30 11:23:27 ok Oct 30 11:23:30 Got plasma active figured out.. so that is done Oct 30 11:23:41 from.. crevetor Oct 30 11:23:52 OrokuSaki: conditions are: you document things in the porting uide Oct 30 11:24:04 Shot.. have you seen my Ubuntu Touch Github? Oct 30 11:24:07 shoot Oct 30 11:24:08 no Oct 30 11:24:22 OrokuSaki: so you want to port it to the Touchpad, right? Oct 30 11:24:27 Yep Oct 30 11:24:31 Which is funny.. Oct 30 11:24:35 Cuz we already run it Oct 30 11:24:39 :) Oct 30 11:24:47 hehe Oct 30 11:25:02 OrokuSaki: yeah but it's not running qt5/wayland/webkit2 + all the new things we did Oct 30 11:25:12 yep Oct 30 11:25:13 OrokuSaki: so you're fine with documentating the steps? Oct 30 11:25:19 Yep Oct 30 11:25:26 I document everything. https://github.com/jshafer817/UbuntuTouch Oct 30 11:25:36 My XDA thread is 3 times as long as that Oct 30 11:25:52 If I don't document, I cannot repeat Oct 30 11:26:52 ok, thats great Oct 30 11:27:00 can you document things for webOS in our wiki? Oct 30 11:27:02 It just bugs me.. I don't know what is being done to the CyanogenMod Sources to convert it into hybris Oct 30 11:27:24 And does the "device" have to be jellybean? Oct 30 11:27:46 like Ubuntu? Oct 30 11:27:50 ok, lets start Oct 30 11:27:51 I guess so Oct 30 11:28:06 the device doesn't has to be on jelly bean Oct 30 11:28:20 @morphis.. I will document everything and then show it to you and you can decide Oct 30 11:28:24 ok Oct 30 11:28:48 OrokuSaki: I never put android on a touchpad Oct 30 11:28:58 really? Oct 30 11:29:01 so do which partitions do you have on it to boot android Oct 30 11:29:15 We create 3 new lvm partitions Oct 30 11:29:24 cm-system cm-data and cm-cache Oct 30 11:29:42 stolen from the freespace of media lvm Oct 30 11:29:50 ok Oct 30 11:30:05 With Ubuntu I use ut-data, etc Oct 30 11:30:09 So I can dual boot =) Oct 30 11:30:09 ok Oct 30 11:30:15 lets do the same here Oct 30 11:30:20 Sweet Oct 30 11:30:34 Yeah.. we try not to wipe out the main WebOS Oct 30 11:30:47 1. first you need all informations about the target device Oct 30 11:31:02 nod Oct 30 11:31:04 2. you need to compile the phablet environment and package it Oct 30 11:31:13 Phablet requires 10.1 though Oct 30 11:31:15 put the package somewhere where you can download it Oct 30 11:31:25 isn't possible with the TP? Oct 30 11:32:09 So like.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2426924 Oct 30 11:32:20 Your talking about the new system partition compiled in ubuntu touch Oct 30 11:32:35 package posted. ;) Oct 30 11:33:15 Oh wait.. I remember this now Oct 30 11:33:27 I had to upload it so I could download it in the webos script to be built Oct 30 11:33:43 I saw Tofee doing that Oct 30 11:33:47 yes Oct 30 11:34:06 are the driver binaries for the TP redistributable? Oct 30 11:34:21 Uhhh.... They are on "themuppets" github Oct 30 11:34:26 I have wondered about that Oct 30 11:34:43 cmteam stuck them there Oct 30 11:35:07 I don't know what is speacial about themuppets.. except for maybe legal reasons Oct 30 11:35:10 ok, we need to be carefull here Oct 30 11:35:30 anyway get the phablet env compiled and packaged first Oct 30 11:35:36 check Oct 30 11:36:28 ping me once you're ready with that Oct 30 11:37:38 Sweet. I shall. Ping you this evening after work.. I leave ssh open so I can play from work. =) Oct 30 11:38:08 Memory refresher... Have you seen a guy named Hashcode around? Oct 30 11:38:14 He is doing my phone for phablet... Oct 30 11:38:21 no Oct 30 11:38:45 k... just wondering... he has to finish it so I can do my phone... Or I could use his old sources... hmmm Oct 30 11:39:21 Hybris seems kinda...... secretive Oct 30 11:40:37 Oh yeah.. when this is all done, I also want to try to run hybris+wayland+gnome Oct 30 11:41:04 then I will be complete Oct 30 11:42:57 Is the blue butterfly still the background? =) Oct 30 11:43:13 I still have it on my phone in a rom slot.. neat Oct 30 11:44:56 I just get this feeling like... lawyers somewhere don't want the world knowing how we compile hybris and android from scratch... As there are not a lot of guides... Interesting... Probably Jolla =) Oct 30 11:45:31 no, thats easy Oct 30 11:46:17 I found a guide where this guy was applying a bionic patch to jellybean Oct 30 11:46:31 Its a thread from last April.. but it looks like this. https://github.com/libhybris/libhybris/blob/master/hybris/common/gingerbread/patches/gingerbread-bionic.patch Oct 30 11:46:32 try this one: http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android_bionic.git;a=commit;h=743fec626119da9cfb125e38b6cacc0e9b3a0dcc Oct 30 11:46:54 oh.. neat! thanks! the patch I am using is causing libext2 to fail Oct 30 11:47:06 --errno or something which I saw in the patch Oct 30 11:47:23 It bugs me that I cannot run test_egl or test_glesv2 Oct 30 11:47:28 I want to see the triangles Oct 30 11:47:40 sounds stupid... but... goals are goals Oct 30 11:47:49 :) Oct 30 11:47:53 yeah Oct 30 11:48:12 neat... thanks... you have given me plenty to do Oct 30 11:48:58 I should probably stop using STS's kernel and switch back to the one in my rom but add 5 patches for accept4 and VT stuff Oct 30 11:49:08 Or SystemD will glady use 100% of a core Oct 30 11:49:25 Good ole 2.6.35 Oct 30 11:52:14 Wonder if all of hybris uses ALOG or just the phablet ones or etc Oct 30 11:52:57 Have you seen the kickstarter project for WebOS\Touchpad? Oct 30 11:53:04 They are running android apps in a card Oct 30 11:53:33 yeah, saw that Oct 30 11:53:43 neat Oct 30 11:56:27 Morphis.. do you own a touchpad? Oct 30 11:56:39 yes Oct 30 11:56:45 okay.. just making sure Oct 30 11:56:50 Was going to send you a spare if you dont Oct 30 11:56:51 =) Oct 30 11:56:57 I have 3 Oct 30 11:57:35 OrokuSaki: hi ! Oct 30 11:58:41 OrokuSaki: I see you're back in the game :) Oct 30 12:00:04 OrokuSaki: note that my A500 github is now quite old; I was stuck on a problem with gcc 4.8, and paused the port effort to concentrate more on WOP itself Oct 30 12:00:48 Whats up Tofe! Oct 30 12:01:13 Went outside.. yeah. I noticed you A500 last week on the github was behind some commits Oct 30 12:01:29 What device are you working on now? Oct 30 12:02:02 I quit my IT job to work for my dad.. which is great.. cuz now I have more time to do.. my projects Oct 30 12:02:33 mainly gnexus, but my work applies to all devices (LunaNext, our future UI replacement for LunaSysMgr) Oct 30 12:02:51 everyone and their dog is on the nexus Oct 30 12:03:15 I almost want to jump ship.. but... naaa Oct 30 12:03:26 I would be left with.. nothing to do Oct 30 12:04:30 LunaNext? Hmmm... Oct 30 12:04:36 Interesting Oct 30 12:04:43 :) well, franckly, if the A500 port didn't have this gcc 4.8 issue (somehow the binaries are all messed up for the Tegra2), it wouldn't be that hard to refresh it Oct 30 12:05:00 Interesting.... Reminds me of this patch Oct 30 12:05:38 there is this patch inside a cherry pick.. I don't use it.. as it seems to work without it Oct 30 12:06:03 enable custom gnueabi toolchain Oct 30 12:06:04 wget https://raw.github.com/milaq/android/cm-10.1/patches/16-06-13_kbuild-enable-custom-gnueabi-toolchain.patch Oct 30 12:06:18 I guess if I have a problem, I will try to use it Oct 30 12:06:44 Well, there are already two patches applied, see the two latest commits here https://github.com/Tofee/picasso-kernel Oct 30 12:06:52 OrokuSaki: there is a lot to do also on nexus devices :) Oct 30 12:06:56 Oh... that doesn't seem like a big deal now that I looked at it Oct 30 12:07:20 you guys may have forgotten.. OrokuSaki does not know programming... =) Oct 30 12:07:37 He just dabbles in projects that other don't want to do.. =) Oct 30 12:08:24 If Ogra cannot program.. I am kind of like that. =) Oct 30 12:09:08 But since I know Morphis has a touchpad, I can ping him if I need to =) Oct 30 12:09:23 *morphis hides* =) Oct 30 12:09:48 Interesting read for future hardware from Motorola and mentioning Palm ;) : http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/333218/scitech/technology/motorola-s-project-ara-modular-concept-harkens-back-to-palm-s-glory-days Oct 30 12:11:31 okay reverted that gingerbread patch and compiling with the phablet patch to see what happens... Oct 30 12:11:59 I suppose I really could just use my ubuntu touch system directory... I found a guide where some guy mentioned that Oct 30 12:12:15 Perhaps this is happening because I am using a kernel not meant for my rom.. Oct 30 12:14:50 I was also looking at the OpenWebOS packages.. and the diffs... holy smoke.. anyone know they they heavily patches all their packages? Oct 30 12:15:03 why they heavily patched Oct 30 12:15:40 @Herrie the idea of a modular phone.. dunno... strange idea. Oct 30 12:16:48 Seems these days building a computer is not as money saving like the old days.. .So.. how could a phone be that much better? And what about roms? Oct 30 12:17:23 people start mixing up parts.. roms won't work unless they have been compiled for that part, etc... Oct 30 12:17:29 Well it's supposed to be all open and you can put your own phone together :) So hopefully we'll see proper open source drivers as well ;) Oct 30 12:17:43 Yeah.. that would be neat.. the proper open source drivers part Oct 30 12:18:07 But first would like to see that happening... So far not that much luck on that... Oct 30 12:18:10 Are there any open source gpu drivers for soc and arm? Oct 30 12:18:17 from the manufacturer? Oct 30 12:18:38 I think Huawei/HiSilicon has it for their K3V2 chipset, but I'm not sure... Oct 30 12:18:41 Rob Clark over at Freedreno more or less said.. No Oct 30 12:18:52 But I don't have the knowledge to verify ;) Oct 30 12:18:55 But that was about a year ago Oct 30 12:19:21 They have kernel downloads which don't seem to include any binary blobs from my quick look at it... Oct 30 12:19:23 Rob is smart.. when it comes to graphics questions and gpu's he is the man Oct 30 12:19:39 Ever heard of freedreno? Oct 30 12:19:50 But then again I know sh*t about kernel and stuff.... Can do a bit of HTML, PHP, Javascript, (PL)/SQL Oct 30 12:19:53 Yeah Oct 30 12:19:57 Heard of it Oct 30 12:20:17 Open source graphics drivers for Qualcomm Adreno chipset right? Oct 30 12:20:22 A Texas Instruments GPU developer goes home and open sources a QualComm GPU driver since TI would get upset and fire him. Oct 30 12:21:40 Well he probably has a non-competition clause in his contract... I know I have in mine... I'm not allowed to go to certain competitors within x time Oct 30 12:21:48 Not that I plan to do so anyway but well ;) Oct 30 12:21:53 Quite sure TI has the same ;) Oct 30 12:22:19 =) Oct 30 12:22:28 Indirectly helping the competitor I can imagine TI wasn't too happy... But I don't agree with him being sent home..... Oct 30 12:22:32 I should have been a programmer Oct 30 12:22:56 My uncle is a programmer and he told me to stay away from it when I was a teenager and I took his advice Oct 30 12:23:21 LOL ;) Oct 30 12:23:36 Yeah... he was upset at India at the time.. I remember Oct 30 12:23:53 Well I can't program well and I would get crazy if I would do it all day ;) Bit of coding here and there OK, but full time programmer is not my cup of tea ;) Oct 30 12:24:21 Yeah I never though about that aspect... I guess someone will always find a way to take the fun out of a hobby Oct 30 12:25:17 My uncle makes 300 an hour when he wants converting cobolt or some really old language... He just logs in and sends IBM a bill Oct 30 12:27:52 LOL that's nice :) Oct 30 12:28:00 I don't make anywhere near that amount, but can't complain ;) Oct 30 12:28:25 300 USD that is? Oct 30 12:29:27 Yeah... poor guy Oct 30 12:29:49 Me neither.. $$ does not bring happiness Oct 30 12:30:09 A touchpad with hybris can bring satisfaction though... That is what I keep telling myself Oct 30 12:31:35 LOL ;) Well I can't complain either, bit of money is good, too much also not :P Oct 30 12:35:32 Funny note not to many people may know.. When I was at school for MCSE ( not some bootcamp)... we studies TI Oct 30 12:35:42 They were a case study on what not to do Oct 30 12:36:06 Originally TI setup their big 3 buildings on bridges... the entire network was bridged Oct 30 12:36:15 including broadcasting =) Oct 30 12:36:30 So if anyhost did a broadcast, it went to all 3 buildings Oct 30 12:36:39 it saturated their network Oct 30 12:37:03 They had to put in some switches =) Oct 30 12:38:57 @Morphis the patch from phablet compiled all the way Oct 30 12:39:23 Should I throw in the libhybris folder like Ubuntu does it? I have never read anything on the net that said yes to that question Oct 30 12:40:16 I kind of wonder if I should just toss it in external so the Android.mk files will be seen Oct 30 12:40:29 =) Oct 30 12:43:44 And.. lets say I want to recompile hybris.. should alinker by gb or jb? Oct 30 12:44:15 my source is jb... but.. when I run test_egl with hybris compiled at jb vs gb I get very different results Oct 30 12:45:09 I figure if I can do a test_egl.. then I will have a very good understanding of hybris =) Oct 30 12:46:07 When I use my ubuntu touch system folder.. I get the same errors as well... when compared to the system folder I have compiled Oct 30 12:46:13 so maybe it is differences in the kernel Oct 30 12:46:33 STSKeeps MerCore kernel vs the one that is being used in my Rom Oct 30 12:46:40 Grrrr Oct 30 12:46:53 =) Oct 30 12:47:25 I guess I should do OpenWebOS on my tablet first before trying it again on my phone... Oct 30 12:47:43 I can get hashcode to help me with my phone.... Oct 30 12:49:58 good morning folks Oct 30 12:52:22 Morning! Oct 30 12:52:38 i see you're yammering on about stuff that probably flies over my head. Oct 30 12:52:41 Okay.. I have been wondering this.. I bet Morphis know... Why do we have LXC Containers? Oct 30 12:52:44 OR…it's 9am, pre-coffee Oct 30 12:52:54 Yeah... 7:52am.. =( Oct 30 12:53:00 work soon Oct 30 12:53:07 well, i started work at 8. kid's sick, so i'm working from home Oct 30 12:53:13 i let the alarm slide until 7:45 >_> Oct 30 12:53:17 Oy Oct 30 12:53:24 hop on work irc, and immediately get slammed with a warm handoff Oct 30 12:53:51 Maybe you can watch the doodlebops Oct 30 12:53:56 gotta teamviewer with a customer and help them upgrade their box. problem is, if you're not VERY careful to add the proper switches during the backup restore process, you can brick the damn thing Oct 30 12:54:04 which is what i did once when i first started Oct 30 12:54:53 so, i'm pleased as punch. Oct 30 12:55:12 i giggled, as my brother sends me this link. he doesn't know what i'm doing. http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1994-09-30/ Oct 30 12:55:19 it's quite apt. Oct 30 12:55:53 lol Oct 30 12:55:54 nice Oct 30 13:10:29 Interesting.. all the patches are already included.. oh yeah.. I already patched that kernel source for Ubuntu Touch.. sweet Oct 30 13:10:43 sweet.. mkimage time Oct 30 13:11:04 i installed ubuntu touch on my grouper. that was a hot mess. Oct 30 13:11:11 webos is more stable and faster Oct 30 13:11:15 that made me giggle Oct 30 13:11:29 Yeah... I bet it is =) Oct 30 13:11:52 I think surfaceflinger is running better then Mir.. at least for me Oct 30 13:12:15 if you see /home/phablet/.display-mir then you know your running Mir Oct 30 13:12:35 i only had it on there for a few minutes before i put webos back. Oct 30 13:12:35 remove it, reboot.. you should be running surface flinger and vice-versa Oct 30 13:12:40 i was testing my webos install script anyway Oct 30 13:12:48 that's interesting. i didn't know that. Oct 30 13:12:52 might be worth checking out again. Oct 30 13:13:08 for kicks =) Oct 30 13:13:20 i like the modifications they made to CWM for the installer. Oct 30 13:13:25 if you want to enable mir touch ~/.display-mir reboot Oct 30 13:13:28 lets you push a package and install it without user interaction Oct 30 13:13:51 OrokuSaki: are you part of the team for Touch? Oct 30 13:14:07 no.. I just spend a ton of time on their IRC working on my device Oct 30 13:14:11 gotcha. Oct 30 13:14:21 i find myself doing more and more embedded stuff lately. Oct 30 13:14:26 makes me wish i knew C Oct 30 13:14:29 >_> Oct 30 13:14:30 Hardware acceleration for gstreamer does not work Oct 30 13:14:37 not for me anyways Oct 30 13:14:48 are you familiar with the gcw-zero? Oct 30 13:14:54 nope Oct 30 13:14:58 (.com) Oct 30 13:15:23 guy hacked together the wireless connection app in an afternoon. it "works", but it's ugly, and doesn't allow you to actually scan for networks. Oct 30 13:15:46 i don't know python, but i have python available…so i'm trying to hack together a wrapper that'll do something similar, but be prettier and more useful. Oct 30 13:16:04 * HaDAk really wishes he knew c Oct 30 13:16:04 looks neat Oct 30 13:16:09 it's super awesome. Oct 30 13:16:10 <~~~ Me too Oct 30 13:16:16 would love to see it running webos some day. Oct 30 13:16:17 heh. Oct 30 13:16:29 course, we'd need webos to be able to be controlled by keyboard only Oct 30 13:16:42 imma shower while this customer's backup is importing. back shortly. Oct 30 13:20:34 OrokuSaki: we have a lxc container to separate the android system from the webOS one Oct 30 13:20:45 and to boot it within a clean environment Oct 30 13:21:11 okay.. just wondering why everone switched from a chroot to lxc.. I am sure the reasoning is beyond me Oct 30 13:21:36 Im that kid that asks why a lot Oct 30 13:22:33 OrokuSaki: lxc is much more powerful than just a chroot Oct 30 13:22:48 I like power Oct 30 13:22:49 the system gets its own namespace for cpu, mem, network, pid Oct 30 13:23:04 so you can for example limit the cpu usage for the container to 10% Oct 30 13:23:11 Oh! Oct 30 13:23:13 sweet Oct 30 13:23:18 mem usage as well? Oct 30 13:23:22 yes Oct 30 13:23:25 sweet Oct 30 13:23:28 (when the kernel supports this= Oct 30 13:23:42 Oh.... yeah Oct 30 13:23:48 I had to downgrade lxc for Ubuntu Touch Oct 30 13:23:54 What version of lxc are you using? Oct 30 13:24:01 http://lwn.net/Articles/531114/ Oct 30 13:24:17 I got an email from canonical asking me to refile a bug Oct 30 13:24:18 0.9 Oct 30 13:24:21 sweet Oct 30 13:24:28 1.0 alpha does not work for my kernel Oct 30 13:24:42 something about cgroups being depricated or a lack of app-armor Oct 30 13:24:47 do we use app-armor? Oct 30 13:24:50 no Oct 30 13:24:52 sweet! Oct 30 13:25:15 Do we pulseaudio? Oct 30 13:25:24 That needs to be patched for me Oct 30 13:25:54 yes Oct 30 13:25:54 I get a mutex error on the touchpad with accept4 Oct 30 13:26:19 using sames patchset as UT does Oct 30 13:26:20 but I found a patch that disables pthreads or something and then pulse plays fine Oct 30 13:27:14 https://raw.github.com/jshafer817/UbuntuTouch/master/important%20files%20after%20compiling/data/debs/patches/pulse/pulsefix.patch Oct 30 13:27:29 in case you feel like using pulse and the touchpad with accept4 for systemd Oct 30 13:27:38 took forever to find that fix Oct 30 13:28:17 I bet its in that huge diff that is in the pulsepackage on the webos page... Oct 30 13:32:49 how about the touchpad pulse bug where audio gets garbled until reboot? Oct 30 13:36:06 <~~~ has a better understanding of what console= does on the kernel cmdline now.. I don't want ttyS0 as I don't have the cable Oct 30 13:36:15 Does this sound right? Oct 30 13:36:31 So I am enabling fbcon with tty0 Oct 30 13:36:58 it's too early for hard questions Oct 30 14:24:59 PulseAudio issue can be fixed with PulseAudio restart on TP usually. Or put screen to sleep for 10 or so secs and turn it back on Oct 30 14:26:24 that's good to know. Oct 30 14:26:34 is there a way to check for the issue? Oct 30 14:26:44 if we wanted to write a script to fix it Oct 30 14:28:05 I'm not sure, but I know there's an app in Preware called PulseAudio restarter or something and that usually does the trick... I SUSPECT it might have something to do with the underclocked 1.2Ghz TP as well. It seems to occur a lot less frequent on my 1,5Ghz TP 4G Oct 30 14:28:55 i have my TP overclocked Oct 30 14:28:58 and it still happens Oct 30 14:29:07 i haven't paid attention to frequency, but it's enough to be annoying Oct 30 14:30:39 Agree... Would be good if that was ever fixed Oct 30 14:31:51 Anyway I'll be taking a short nap, got a headache from all the heavy lifting I guess before I continue with some contruction of walls ;) Oct 30 14:32:15 see you guys later ;) Oct 30 14:32:22 feel better Oct 30 14:32:42 Thnx hope so, just the funny weather here I guess and lifting 80+ blocks of 23 kg didn't help I'm sure :P Oct 30 18:27:03 Nice first use boot !! \o/ Oct 30 18:27:48 * Tofe discovers what he worked on... Oct 30 18:36:39 Tofe: :) Oct 30 18:45:01 ? Oct 30 18:46:26 HaDAk: now, on a fresh install, the first use app is started. Oct 30 18:46:40 beautiful. Oct 30 18:46:43 and there is a logo. Oct 30 18:46:46 keyboard works this build? Oct 30 18:46:52 weeeeeeell Oct 30 18:46:54 no Oct 30 18:46:57 hah. Oct 30 18:46:58 ok then Oct 30 18:47:19 I'm still working on it right now, but it's kind of tricky Oct 30 18:52:18 you're doing a good job. i have full faith in you. Oct 30 18:52:23 keep up the great work. Oct 30 19:31:48 Hardware keyboard works more or less in emu ;) Oct 30 19:32:11 i still only test on grouper Oct 30 19:32:22 i need to go through and redo the documentation for the emulator install Oct 30 19:32:33 but i have to actually have time to install it in order to do that Oct 30 19:41:37 I have no grouper or maguro to test with so for me only emu for now ;) Oct 30 23:04:57 anyone around? Oct 30 23:33:12 yo **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Oct 31 02:59:58 2013