**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 04 02:59:58 2013 Nov 04 05:47:40 RagingMind: Yes :) TP 4G with proper 4G in Europe :) Today should get my TP Go's as well to play with :D Nov 04 06:54:15 morning Nov 04 06:54:18 Herrie: pong Nov 04 06:55:59 morphis: morning Nov 04 06:56:33 Checked latest emulator image (Nov-1) and email icon still broken there? Nov 04 06:58:09 Could be something needs to be pushed still before it's working OK or... ? Nov 04 06:58:33 Also was wondering about messaging solution since messaging wasn't open sourced, if we have an idea/strategy for that already? Nov 04 06:58:50 Herrie: I didn't fixed it yet :) Nov 04 06:59:09 JaMa: thanks Nov 04 07:00:14 morphis: OK that explains ;) Well I pushed a fix that was committed last week, but not sure that was in the latest image already? Nov 04 07:00:21 Or there's something else that needs fixing? Nov 04 07:00:57 Herrie: didn't you just pushed one for the memos app? Nov 04 07:01:10 (I didn't bumped it yet) Nov 04 07:01:21 No also for email, ka6sox approved it last week :0 Nov 04 07:01:22 ;) Nov 04 07:01:37 Hence I was wondering ;) Nov 04 07:02:17 https://github.com/webOS-ports/core-apps/commit/6fab14e2a4c6628dd8415eddd4f196dc903f3d11 Nov 04 07:19:52 morning Nov 04 07:21:37 Herrie: when I added the static icons in the launcher yesterday, I remarked that a lot of apps had their icon in the root directory of the app Nov 04 07:22:08 (only icon.png, though Nov 04 07:22:39 Herrie: ah didn't saw that one :) Nov 04 07:27:02 Herrie: ok, bump both memos and core-apps locally Nov 04 07:36:08 Tofe: yes there's some bug with the icon code it seems in general Nov 04 07:36:36 See log from last week sometime. Morphis spotted that it was pointing to the wrong location Nov 04 07:37:18 Anyway I'm off to work ;) Nov 04 07:51:56 Tofe: maliit keyboard works here Nov 04 07:52:13 Tofe: it just didn't use the whole screen width Nov 04 07:52:19 If you modify the icons locations, ping me, I'll have to modify the static icon file path in the launchbar Nov 04 07:52:34 morphis: good ! Nov 04 07:52:51 yes, it's now in portrait mode, as it should be for this screen geometry Nov 04 07:53:22 ah thats the problem Nov 04 07:53:35 Tofe: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next/pull/53 Nov 04 07:55:03 morphis: merged; good spot, I missed the issue Nov 04 07:55:14 me too Nov 04 07:55:30 was wondering why the UI is displayed correctly Nov 04 07:56:10 yes, I can guess so; I had just tested it in desktop mode, to validate the Test framework, so I didn't see it Nov 04 07:56:12 ok well Nov 04 07:56:59 Tofe: btw. and in case of the just-type app up swipe doesn't hide the keyboard Nov 04 07:58:34 ah it's still there when hiding the just type launcher ? Nov 04 07:59:09 right Nov 04 07:59:17 seems like it doesn't looses the focus Nov 04 08:03:58 Herrie|Work: ping Nov 04 09:01:25 morphis: pong Nov 04 09:16:24 morphis: for the keyboard size, the layout is quite static; I guess we can scale it up, but I hope it won't give something awful Nov 04 09:17:53 Tofe: at least it should use the whole screen width Nov 04 09:18:21 morphis: yep; ok, I'll try a simple scaling Nov 04 09:18:30 ok Nov 04 09:58:34 morphis: spotty connection here via 3G but reading log as well, so go ahead :) Nov 04 10:08:48 Herrie: just want to know how far you're with the wiki Nov 04 10:13:06 Should have some time in the coming days finally :) Nov 04 10:13:28 Need to update templates and move some things around. Nov 04 10:13:58 With regards to Messaging: do we have a strategy/solution already or tbd? Nov 04 10:37:19 Herrie: not really yet Nov 04 10:37:27 we need someone to implement this Nov 04 10:37:42 I thought about using telepathy as background service for this Nov 04 10:37:51 as it would allow easy integration of SMS and IM Nov 04 10:41:37 OK, thought so already that there was nothing in the works yet. How is it currently done on webOS and can we expect something from LG on this? Messaging, Photos & Videos and Music apps seem to be 3 missing core apps that could/should be open sourced? Nov 04 10:42:51 lets expect nothing for now Nov 04 10:43:24 I am not sure how it's done technically within the webOS system but we can break it down and simplify things Nov 04 10:43:34 getting just a SMS app should be the problem Nov 04 10:43:41 s/should/should not/ Nov 04 10:43:57 but the whole messaging concept is a little bit more work Nov 04 10:44:37 in general I would really like to use telepathy for this as it already abstracts all the things we need Nov 04 10:44:53 but we need to webos-ify it Nov 04 10:47:31 I think TIL in legacy is dealing with it together with D-bus?It's discarding SMS on the TP 4G from what I can tell. Not sure what currently happens on the Maguro when SMS is received? It's not only SMS but also other IM bits, Synergy etc. Would be good if Nov 04 10:47:31 we can get it working the same way because it's implementation is the best amongst all OS-es out there still :) Nov 04 10:51:07 Herrie: I am not really sure how the messaging infrastructure within webOS classic works Nov 04 10:51:21 at least the TIL provides some source for the SMS messages, yes Nov 04 10:51:25 but someone needs to store them Nov 04 10:51:45 I can imagine all messages are stored within db8 Nov 04 10:51:50 btw. the im services are available Nov 04 10:52:06 Not sure what we can reuse from Ubuntu either? Nov 04 10:53:04 Quite sure they are... I think Garfonso might know? Nov 04 10:54:12 should be rather easy to just save incoming messages within db8 Nov 04 10:54:18 however we need a UI Nov 04 10:54:39 would be good if someone can do a dummy prototype with enyo Nov 04 10:55:01 must not connect to any service but to have a working UI we can use to integrate the service bits Nov 04 10:56:05 Yeah trying to find some Enyo devs willing to help out with apps so you guys can focus on OE, QML and Luna Next instead of apps. Nov 04 10:56:56 Herrie: it would be enough to have someone just taking care about prototyping the UI Nov 04 10:57:08 so we can fill it with functionality and care about the service layer Nov 04 10:57:56 Will first get wiki sorted at my end and then try to see if I can fix some of the bugs in current apps and get my Enyo skills up to speed as well. Might be able to do something with Ares 2? Nov 04 10:58:28 Herrie|Work: yes, ares 2 is a good idea Nov 04 13:43:03 Good morning Nov 04 13:46:46 Cobblemonster: morning Nov 04 15:53:12 Herrie: toss this together this weekend https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/89531296/Phone.zip veary quick and simple a place for you guys to start if you want it Nov 04 15:53:33 also itneed the d-bus bit yet Nov 04 15:53:45 it needs Nov 04 15:54:45 just un zip and run the debug.html Nov 04 15:57:17 Cobblemonster, thanks will check at home, no Dropbox access here at work :'( Nov 04 15:58:22 Any chance you could have a go at a messaging app mockup as well when you have time? I think you can use current TP and phone messaging apps for inspiration :) Nov 04 17:54:10 Cobblemonster: you did that with Areq 2, isn't it ? Nov 04 17:54:13 Ares* Nov 04 17:55:27 I tried to install it, but stumbled on a missing "express" nodejs package; I guess my nodejs install was just incorrect Nov 04 19:18:05 Tofe: Yes it was done with Ares 2 Nov 04 19:37:11 morphis: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/pull/40 hop Nov 04 19:39:29 Tofe : try running the npm -d install again i had to do it twice once and a while my be network problem while it trying to down load Nov 04 19:45:52 it says I should bug the author to register ares in the npm registry :) Nov 04 20:50:55 Tofe: What! no way hang on a min i zip up mine and you can just download it if you trust me :) Nov 04 20:57:21 tofe give about 45 min to upload to drop box and i give you a link to ut to down load my WORKING copy then all it could be is your node if it dont work Nov 04 20:57:56 Cobblemonster, where did you get it from? Nov 04 20:58:13 right from github Nov 04 20:58:50 but i still had to do the npm install Nov 04 20:59:17 you on windiws or what Nov 04 21:03:36 ka6sox: it came from here https://github.com/enyojs/ares-project.git but then i benn playing with it and doing pull request for it the last year + Nov 04 21:05:40 Cobblemonster, did you push your changes to github? Nov 04 21:06:09 ka6sox: for what! Nov 04 21:08:12 Cobblemonster, where are your changes that you want to have downloaded? Nov 04 21:11:46 Cobblemonster: I'll have a look tomorrow, gotta get some sleep now :) Nov 04 21:11:50 nite! Nov 04 21:11:59 ka6sox the download is " Ares " for Tofe but yes i push new update to webos-ports-template a few days ago ( i did not do the submdule right) Nov 04 21:12:26 okay Nov 04 21:37:09 Tofe: (and other) Here the link for Ares un zip and run it by opening a cmd box or termal node ide.js -b https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/89531296/ares-project.zip Nov 04 22:33:29 folks Nov 04 22:33:31 key ka6sox **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 05 00:58:43 2013 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Nov 05 02:59:58 2013