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Nov 27 08:44:40 <Tofe> morning
Nov 27 08:48:01 <morphis> Tofe: morning
Nov 27 13:19:50 <HaDAk> mornin
Nov 27 13:28:43 <morphis> HaDAk: morning
Nov 27 13:43:02 <HaDAk> anyone know how WPA2 enterprise configuration works?
Nov 27 13:47:40 <morphis> HaDAk: where?
Nov 27 13:47:55 <HaDAk> in gereral, linux command line
Nov 27 13:49:13 <morphis> you need wpa_supplicant for this
Nov 27 13:49:27 <morphis> technically it's pretty complex
Nov 27 13:49:42 <morphis> but from the user perspective you just need the certificate and additional user credentials
Nov 27 13:50:00 <Tofe> morphis: merged
Nov 27 13:50:06 <morphis> Tofe: thanks
Nov 27 13:50:22 <HaDAk> ok, but a properly configured wpa_supplicant config plus the cert should be enough
Nov 27 13:50:25 <HaDAk> thanks morphis
Nov 27 13:50:38 <morphis> HaDAk: right
Nov 27 13:50:47 <morphis> but depends on which system you use above wpa-supplicant
Nov 27 13:51:22 <HaDAk> how do you mean?
Nov 27 13:52:23 <morphis> are you just using wpa-supplicant or NetworkManager or connman too?
Nov 27 13:53:13 <HaDAk> just wpa_supplicant.
Nov 27 13:54:55 <morphis> ok, then you're fine
Nov 27 13:55:23 <HaDAk> it's been a long time since my wireless security class, and i don't typically use enterprise.
Nov 27 13:55:36 <HaDAk> trying to recall if there's more than just one type of enterprise WPA security
Nov 27 14:01:18 <morphis> HaDAk: do you already had some time to look at style the keyboard?
Nov 27 14:01:39 <HaDAk> morphis: not with all the thanksgiving stuff, and my kid being home sick this week
Nov 27 14:01:44 <HaDAk> i can likely take a look next week.
Nov 27 14:01:50 <HaDAk> can you put together a doc for me?
Nov 27 14:02:30 <morphis> HaDAk: I can give you something to hints at what to look:
Nov 27 14:03:04 <HaDAk> i just need to know where the files are, what i need to look at to style it (any documentation, etc), and what the expectations are.
Nov 27 14:03:09 <morphis> - the current style we're using is in /usr/share/maliit/plugins/com/ubuntu/styles/ubuntu/
Nov 27 14:03:37 <morphis> - or at https://github.com/webOS-ports/webos-keyboard/tree/master/data/styles/ubuntu
Nov 27 14:04:13 <HaDAk> can you email me just those things? >_>
Nov 27 14:04:19 <HaDAk> that way i've got a quick reference
Nov 27 14:04:34 <morphis> for sure
Nov 27 14:05:00 <morphis> which email address?
Nov 27 14:05:20 <HaDAk> skipmeister123@gmail.com
Nov 27 14:07:47 <morphis> send
Nov 27 14:08:04 <HaDAk> got it. thanks.
Nov 27 14:08:41 <morphis> just ask if you have further questions
Nov 27 14:09:13 <HaDAk> will do. i'll try to start on it next week.
Nov 27 14:09:20 <HaDAk> work today, then leaving for the gf's for a few days ;)
Nov 27 14:09:31 <HaDAk> don't plan on doing any unnecessary work until i'm done ravaging her
Nov 27 14:14:00 <HaDAk> oh, morphis … what do you know about WPS configuration?
Nov 27 14:14:37 <HaDAk> same scenario
Nov 27 14:22:21 <morphis> HaDAk: what do you want to know?
Nov 27 14:27:45 <HaDAk> i know, in most apps, you push a button then push a button on the router, and it connects
Nov 27 14:27:52 <HaDAk> what happens in the background?
Nov 27 14:27:58 <HaDAk> say, if i wanted to implement the feature myself
Nov 27 14:30:08 <morphis> pretty complex
Nov 27 14:30:22 <morphis> take it as magic :)
Nov 27 14:30:33 <HaDAk> doesn't work for me. gotta write a program that does it. :\
Nov 27 14:30:34 <morphis> mainly it exchanges the configuration for you
Nov 27 14:30:54 <morphis> HaDAk: you want the reimplement the whole protocol?
Nov 27 14:30:57 <HaDAk> no
Nov 27 14:31:03 <HaDAk> i want to use system calls
Nov 27 14:31:23 <HaDAk> like, i'd be happy with calling a program to do it
Nov 27 14:31:29 <HaDAk> just need to know how it'd be done by hand
Nov 27 14:31:35 <HaDAk> like, if all i had was a cli…no gui.
Nov 27 14:31:44 <HaDAk> what would i need to have installed, what would i type, to connect to WPS
Nov 27 14:32:42 <morphis> you need wpa-supplicant
Nov 27 14:32:54 <HaDAk> i've got that.
Nov 27 14:33:23 <HaDAk> maybe this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/120367/how-to-connect-to-wi-fi-ap-through-wps
Nov 27 14:33:29 <morphis> https://android.googlesource.com/platform/external/wpa_supplicant_8/+/1e78e76961664775f58b139f8c6388cfa0485f3d/wpa_supplicant/README-WPS
Nov 27 14:33:36 <morphis> use wpa_clie
Nov 27 14:33:43 <morphis> s/wpa_clie/wpa_cli/
Nov 27 14:33:46 <morphis> or use connman
Nov 27 14:33:59 <morphis> connman interacts with wpa_supplicant and is able to do WPS
Nov 27 14:34:07 <morphis> and offers you a great dbus interface
Nov 27 14:34:10 <HaDAk> embedded device. no connman.
Nov 27 14:34:38 <HaDAk> i'm working on the gcw-zero wireless app. but, if my work goes well and is well received, i'd like to roll new features into the webos wifi app, too.
Nov 27 14:34:48 <HaDAk> since they're both just a gui to cli programs
Nov 27 14:36:01 <morphis> webOS is a different story
Nov 27 14:36:23 <HaDAk> how do?
Nov 27 14:36:23 <morphis> start experiementing with wpa-supplicant and wpa_cli
Nov 27 14:36:27 <HaDAk> s/do/so/
Nov 27 14:36:39 <HaDAk> i've used wpa_supplicant before. just not for enterprise networks.
Nov 27 14:36:46 <morphis> webos uses connman and another ls2 API between
Nov 27 14:36:57 <morphis> I am not sure wether WPS and enterprise networks are working together
Nov 27 14:37:05 <HaDAk> i doubt they are.
Nov 27 14:37:09 <HaDAk> looking at two separate features.
Nov 27 14:38:03 <HaDAk> but if i understand the underlying process, translating it to a higher API shouldn't be a huge issue.
Nov 27 14:38:13 <HaDAk> i don't think webos currently supports WPS, but it does support wpa-enterprise
Nov 27 14:40:35 <morphis> openwebos doesn't support WPS nor wpa-enterprise
Nov 27 14:41:09 <HaDAk> aha.
Nov 27 14:41:17 <HaDAk> well, then these questions are not in vain :)
Nov 27 14:41:30 <morphis> it's currently WPA/WPA2/WEP/open only
Nov 27 14:41:45 <HaDAk> sweet.
Nov 27 14:41:54 <morphis> but it's only a matter of modifying the adapter between connman and the application side
Nov 27 14:42:20 <morphis> wpa_supplicant supports everything so it's always a matter what the upper layers support
Nov 27 14:44:43 <HaDAk> sure. just writing an interface to it. like what i'm doing.
Nov 27 14:46:01 <HaDAk> so, the syntax is different, but the idea is the same
Nov 27 14:46:40 <morphis> right
Nov 27 14:46:51 <morphis> and thats what makes things always complex :)
Nov 27 14:47:14 <HaDAk> well, once i get it working in one place, translating it over shouldn't be too difficult.
Nov 27 14:53:50 <HaDAk> how much does wpa_supplicant care if your config file says WPA vs WPA2?
Nov 27 15:30:40 <Garfonso> morning
Nov 27 15:52:10 <WhiteBee> morphis: I have some minors things to fix and I'll do a pr
Nov 27 15:52:21 <WhiteBee> as this is just cosmetics, you want me to keep it branched out of master?
Nov 27 15:52:22 <morphis> WhiteBee: great!
Nov 27 15:52:24 <morphis> Garfonso: morning
Nov 27 15:53:23 <morphis> WhiteBee: that would be better until we know it's working correctly
Nov 27 15:53:42 <WhiteBee> morphis: ok. working on it right now
Nov 27 19:22:09 <Garfonso> hm.. what clockwork mod image do I need to load for my gnex? Google Galaxy Nexus (GSM)? Recovery or "Touch recovery"? And what's the difference?
Nov 27 19:28:02 <Garfonso> "deplyoing webos" YEAH. :)
Nov 27 19:29:18 <Herrie> Garfonso: Shouldn't matter
Nov 27 19:29:34 <Herrie> Both are the same, one is just with touchscreen support, other with buttons I think
Nov 27 19:34:02 <Garfonso> when should I reboot? I think it would be good to add some step like "wait till the blue bar is filled up and disappears" or something.
Nov 27 19:34:12 <Garfonso> or add a message "done"? ;)
Nov 27 19:37:58 <Garfonso> hm... never saw that screen before.. GNex now just says "ANDROID" in small, cyan letters with a blinking cursor.
Nov 27 19:39:08 <Herrie> Ehm Tofe and morphis are experts in that no Gnex here :(
Nov 27 19:39:20 <Herrie> Let me know what's missing and I'll add something ot the wiki :)
Nov 27 19:39:30 <Herrie> Current instructions are based on HaDAk testing
Nov 27 19:39:35 <Herrie> So he might also know
Nov 27 19:40:01 <HaDAk> if you're using my script, you want CWM
Nov 27 19:40:04 <HaDAk> not TWRP
Nov 27 19:40:14 <HaDAk> BUT my script currently doesn't support the gnex
Nov 27 19:40:18 <HaDAk> more future-proofing
Nov 27 19:50:03 <Garfonso> I was just following the instructions in the wiki, no script.. and I installted CWM, not the touch stuff.
Nov 27 19:51:52 <Garfonso> maybe I did something wrong in the "load kernel step".. let me retry that one.
Nov 27 20:19:44 <Garfonso> hm. Now it's not even getting there and hangs at Google. :(
Nov 27 20:20:18 <Tofe> back
Nov 27 20:20:39 <Tofe> Garfonso: ah ! you too ! So it means it's not only my fault
Nov 27 20:21:02 <Tofe> Garfonso: I usually have to try several times before it manages to boot till the end
Nov 27 20:21:40 <Tofe> but the "ANDROID" thing may also show up during boot, during several seconds
Nov 27 20:22:26 <Tofe> I worked better before (before what ? I don't know), there must be something fishy in the boot process
Nov 27 20:22:36 <Tofe> morphis: do you also experience such problems ?
Nov 27 20:27:43 <HaDAk> sounds like a kernel issue
Nov 27 20:28:02 <Garfonso> hm...
Nov 27 20:33:25 <HaDAk> maybe adb logcat?
Nov 27 20:37:58 <Garfonso> didn't get that far, yet..
Nov 27 21:25:45 <WhiteBee> ok, I pushed the thing to my fork
Nov 27 21:25:54 <WhiteBee> on a branch name ui-dev
Nov 27 21:26:49 <WhiteBee> Should I do compare with master and send the PR from there? or do you need to create an equivalent branch in webos-ports repo?
Nov 27 21:29:12 <WhiteBee> anyway, here it is:
Nov 27 21:29:13 <WhiteBee> https://github.com/Whitebee/org.webosports.app.settings/tree/ui-dev
Nov 27 22:38:30 <Garfonso> yeah... after ten or so tries it booted into webOS. Yay. :)
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