**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Dec 10 02:59:58 2013 Dec 10 04:33:00 hey I have got alpha 2 running on my cdma Gnex so i can help out with any testing that doesn't have to do with the cell radios Dec 10 04:38:48 i've got a little bit of experience in coding but not enough to be writing a phone dialer, just would love to help anyway I can. Dec 10 05:58:33 Rennat: Great stuff :) Dec 10 06:00:51 Just let me know what needs to be tested Dec 10 06:02:25 I'm sure Tofe or morphis can tell you :) Dec 10 06:02:42 Alpha 2 is a bit old though, lots of things have been changed since Dec 10 08:21:50 morning Dec 10 15:03:01 morning Dec 10 15:03:03 Garfonso: sorry was busy through the last days Dec 10 16:25:52 http://cl.ly/image/3s1N1Q1h3t0M Dec 10 16:26:02 trying to get skype to not abandon webos and put out a 3ds client Dec 10 16:26:05 we'll see how that goes Dec 10 16:26:33 HaDAk: best of luck! Dec 10 16:26:43 probably not going to happen. Dec 10 16:26:52 they're dumping all access to the old API, which webos uses Dec 10 16:26:58 oof Dec 10 16:27:11 i don't blame them. Dec 10 16:27:12 “old API” gonna kill us all eventually Dec 10 16:27:18 yep. Dec 10 16:27:24 it's not that they hate webos, it's that they want a new api Dec 10 16:27:27 i don't blame them for that. Dec 10 16:27:31 right Dec 10 16:27:34 me neither Dec 10 16:27:41 progress…like forest fires... Dec 10 16:27:46 yeah. Dec 10 16:53:02 HaDAk: you already had fun with styling the keyboard? Dec 10 16:54:24 morphis: i was working on it, then got sidetracked by something. Dec 10 16:54:26 can't remember what. Dec 10 16:54:29 ok Dec 10 16:54:31 i DO need to update my VM though Dec 10 16:55:01 http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports-staging/latest/images/qemux86/webos-ports-emulator-qemux86.zip Dec 10 16:55:03 that the right one? Dec 10 16:55:07 right Dec 10 16:56:55 pulling it down now Dec 10 16:59:20 anything I can do to help? I've got it running on my cdma gnex so i can help with anything that doesn't have to do with the cell radios Dec 10 17:32:07 Rennat: are you more into C/C++/Linux-Stuff or HTML/JavaScript/CSS? Dec 10 17:34:11 Mostly HTML/Javascript/CSS and I know linux pretty well. But keep in mind I don't know enough to be writing the phone dialer or anything. Dec 10 17:40:17 So, maybe you could look into things like Preware 2 and make it look nicer? ;) Do you know enyo 2? Dec 10 17:54:02 nope, but i can always learn :) Dec 10 18:06:56 Enyo 2 isn't really hard. So I'll start poking around and making Preware little better. Dec 10 18:08:25 does preware2 function right now? Dec 10 18:08:31 like, on webos-ports? Dec 10 18:08:39 'cause that might be a good goal, if it doesn't. Dec 10 18:22:46 ya, i'm looking at the Preware on the webOS-Ports github and it isn't functional at all Dec 10 18:27:14 so, i'd start with making it function, THEN making it look nice. Dec 10 18:27:48 but preware2 functioning will be *key* to making webos-ports usable Dec 10 18:29:42 Ya I'll start poking around and see what I can do. Still have to get my head around Enyo 2, just noticing that index.html does really point anywhere Dec 10 18:30:10 check debug.html Dec 10 18:30:24 but i think it's app.js that you're really looking for Dec 10 18:30:49 #enyojs can probably help more Dec 10 18:33:09 ok now I have somewhere to start. thanks Dec 10 18:35:04 :) Dec 10 18:58:47 Garfonso is pretty thorough with leaving TODOs in the code of Preware :) Dec 10 20:58:03 HaDAk, Rennat: huh, Preware 2 should work.. at least download feeds and show packages. Dec 10 20:58:18 hm.. maybe part of it is still in the settings branch. Dec 10 20:58:36 Garfonso: with the last merge there are some problems with the PalmServiceBridge and cordova Dec 10 20:58:46 aka the ondeviceready event is never send Dec 10 20:59:06 hm.. ok. That's not good then. Dec 10 20:59:29 right Dec 10 20:59:55 Garfonso: are you using any cordova functionality in preware currently? Dec 10 21:00:11 other than the ondeviceready event? Dec 10 21:02:34 I think the navigator is used for all kind of service calls Dec 10 21:02:54 but we could get rid of that Dec 10 21:03:04 we should Dec 10 21:03:37 webos-lib should be the one to use here Dec 10 21:04:29 Garfonso: I have some change locally to update to a recent cordova version which will be better integrate later Dec 10 21:04:52 we could also get rid of it completely if the ondeviceready event is the only thing we from it Dec 10 21:05:31 yes, webos-lib is in there anyway, so we can use it for service calls, also. Dec 10 21:05:43 ok, I'll try to do that. Dec 10 21:06:26 Garfonso: btw. maybe you can have a quick look at why cordova isn't working Dec 10 21:06:30 https://github.com/webOS-ports/phonegap/blob/webOS-ports/master/lib/webos/lib/cordova.webos.js#L6057 Dec 10 21:07:08 Garfonso: I verified that the callback stored in this.req.onservicecallback is called correctly but its not working with the local function callback which is defined there Dec 10 21:07:48 if I define a function Service.prototype.callback = function(msg) { ...} and assign it to this.req.onservicecallback it's called but not in the scope of this Dec 10 21:08:58 ah. So you need to do .bind(this) Dec 10 21:11:11 I think you should change it to this.req.onservicecallback = this.callback.bind(this); Dec 10 21:12:25 the .bind(this) will set the right scope for callback, even when it is called from a different scope. Dec 10 21:16:02 morphis: the justtype launcher bug I introduce is a bit less obvious than I thaught; there is one obvious part (already fixed in my tofe/work branch), but the launcher app is not shown on screen for an obscure reason. Dec 10 21:16:08 introduced* Dec 10 21:27:17 morphis: somehow I can't call the update service from update or settings app, if it's only private Dec 10 21:32:42 that's the logoutput I get: http://pastebin.com/zqLMsvGc Dec 10 21:39:53 maybe that's connected to the activity manager issue somehow? Dec 10 21:40:11 because error messages were similar (and not very helpful, either) Dec 10 21:40:32 strange thing is: as soon as I add the config for public access, everything works as a charm again. Dec 10 21:46:41 hi. small question. i am trying to build webos-ports by using openembedded/angstrom/yocto but fails for some reason becouse of strange missing recipes and build errors. does webos-ports provide a clean step by step build tutorial so i am able to test webos to see if i can contribute something? if yes where can i find this instrcutions? Dec 10 22:03:23 ok, strange.. this cascade of errors seems not to be connected if the service is working or not. Where does that come from? Dec 10 22:03:42 but it does not break anything. Dec 10 22:33:23 ok, got it right again.. somehow this cascade of errors is caused by my conversation with activity manager. Dec 10 23:04:17 morphis: luna-send -n 1 -a org.webosports.service.update palm://com.palm.activitymanager/getDetails '{"activityName":"org.webosports.service.update: Periodic Update Check"}' fails and asks for additional parameters. Dec 10 23:04:54 luna-send -n 1 -a org.webosports.service.update palm://com.palm.activitymanager/getDetails '{"activityName":"org.webosports.service.update: Periodic Update Check", "current":true, "internal":true}' then works, but show 1970 as next scheduled start => probably will never be run. :( Dec 11 00:34:25 hello folks Dec 11 00:34:32 or rather...'morning Dec 11 00:37:45 mornin LarrySteeze **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Dec 11 02:59:59 2013