**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 09 02:59:58 2014 Jan 09 03:14:08 * DougReeder wakes up Jan 09 03:15:55 * DougReeder reads the open issues Jan 09 03:19:55 I'm reading http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/469 " opkg install does not work for more complex IPK files (Bug #469) " and it implies that I should be able to install ipks without db kinds and such, but that didn't work for me. Is there a simple IPK around I can try installing? Jan 09 03:24:46 Does http://issues.webos-ports.org/ use the same accounts as anything else, such as the wiki? Jan 09 06:19:49 DougReeder: It's a separate account if I recall correctly Jan 09 06:20:06 Ah, well, then. Jan 09 06:20:14 Thanks, Herrie Jan 09 06:23:16 I think I've got the Calculator to size itself in a usable way on the Emulator. Jan 09 06:26:31 It bothers me to just scp files, overwriting the originals, but I guess that's adequate to work on the built-in apps. Jan 09 06:51:00 Yay, my first pull request has been sent! Jan 09 07:21:00 DougReeder: great. :) Jan 09 07:21:13 * DougReeder smiles Jan 09 07:21:31 DougReeder: How does opkg install fail for you? AFAIK opkg install still installs into /usr/palm/... and not /media/cryptofs... Jan 09 07:22:30 root@qemux86:~# luna-send -n 6 palm://com.palm.appinstaller/installNoVerify '{"subscribe":true, "target": "/home/roo Jan 09 07:22:33 t/com.hominidsoftware.exhibitioncalc_1.0.3_all.ipk"}' Jan 09 07:23:26 ah, ok. So that's not opkg install but the appinstaller. ;) Jan 09 07:23:50 did you create the directory /media/cryptofs/var/cache/opkg? Jan 09 07:24:40 {"returnValue":true , "ticket":1, "subscribed":true} Jan 09 07:24:40 { "ticket":1 , "status":"FAILED_INTERNAL_ERROR" } Jan 09 07:24:40 { "ticket":1 , "status":"FAILED_IPKG_INSTALL" } Jan 09 07:25:17 nope! Jan 09 07:27:36 DougReeder: just to prevent confusion: The appinstaller should work with more complex packages. Only if you type "opkg install package.ipk", that will not work with more complex packages. Jan 09 07:28:04 The appinstaller should work, after you create that directory in the emulator. Jan 09 07:28:18 opkg install should work anyway. I think.. hm. Jan 09 07:28:28 Sorry, missed stuff - the land connetion is down Jan 09 07:28:54 Are there instructions for opkg install? Jan 09 07:28:58 ...but my Pre3 is still online! Jan 09 07:29:15 Huh, land connection is back. Jan 09 07:30:12 I'll try creating that dir ... after I start up the Emulator again. Jan 09 07:30:13 I got the directory wrong, this is the correct path, I think: /media/cryptofs/apps/var/opkg/cache Jan 09 07:30:22 could you test if that exists and if not create it? Jan 09 07:31:06 DougReeder: just to prevent confusion: The appinstaller should work with more complex packages. Only if you type "opkg install package.ipk", that will not work with more complex packages. Jan 09 07:32:00 Sorry, my Mac mini has slowed to a crawl. Jan 09 07:34:56 ...var/opkg/cache did not exist, and I've just created it Jan 09 07:38:31 ...but the installer still gives me the identical error message. Jan 09 07:44:48 try this: morphis> chmod +x /usr/bin/pmServicePostInstall.sh ; chmod +x /usr/bin/ApplicationInstallerUtility Jan 09 07:44:57 maybe it's not in the image, yet. Jan 09 07:46:44 I get an identical error whether the file exists or not... but if the ipk file exists, it is deleted. Jan 09 07:47:03 hehe, yes, that's right. :) Jan 09 07:47:22 you can check the system logs with journalctl --no-pager Jan 09 07:47:37 or journalctl -f to follow the log Jan 09 07:49:36 oh, ho! status:SUCCESS Jan 09 07:51:21 ...except I can't find any file associated with the app after a "successful" install Jan 09 07:53:06 hm.. this should now be in /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications or so... like on legacy Jan 09 07:54:32 ah.. ok. Jan 09 07:54:57 I got a lot wrong. Sorry... ;) The the chmod stuff was necessary to get the "SUCCESS". Jan 09 07:55:06 But now you need to create this directory: /media/cryptofs/apps/var/lock Jan 09 07:55:13 the other paths I said were wrong. Jan 09 07:55:14 ...palm/applications is empty Jan 09 07:56:59 Oi! Icon on screen! Jan 09 07:57:05 :) Jan 09 07:57:51 ...but tapping doesn't successfully launch it Jan 09 07:58:10 this was on the image from the January 6th? Jan 09 07:58:21 can you see something in the log? Jan 09 08:00:23 Unknown keyword:optional Jan 09 08:00:41 Application...is already running Jan 09 08:00:53 * DougReeder_ nods Jan 09 08:01:17 How do I kill an app from the command line? Jan 09 08:03:00 Anyway, I need to get to bed Jan 09 08:07:19 This is like the old Apple 2 days: you're happy when anything works at all :-S Jan 09 09:00:02 DougReeder: yes. Haha. I had issues with running my installed app, too. Hm. Will have to look into that a bit more. Maybe morphis or Tofe knows anything about that? Jan 09 09:06:28 Garfonso, DougReeder: the system overall is not really stable yet ... it's hard to get everything working with limited time so please don't get disappointed by the poor quality we currently have Jan 09 09:06:51 it's improving every day but developing a complex system with only few people is a really hard job Jan 09 09:12:35 lge will release the webOS tv version software? that can help i think Jan 09 09:35:15 hrtsea: even if you get something from someone you need to integrate it as it's not just simply putting one block on top of another with all pins suiting Jan 09 09:37:01 and they seem to have customized the UI a lot Jan 09 09:40:13 yes Jan 09 09:40:40 Tofe: you already have something for the power menu? Jan 09 09:41:23 morphis: nearly, but the UI is not really seducing right now Jan 09 09:41:58 I didn't find the background of that popup, do you have an idea ? Jan 09 09:42:12 what are you using for the popup? Jan 09 09:47:41 morphis: sure, I understand that and I was not intending to criticize anybody... You are doing a great job. :) Only the first impression is a bit disappointing and you have to learn some stuff to get a long and develop on the apps. Especially if you are not so deep into the system. Jan 09 09:47:55 Garfonso: yeah right Jan 09 09:48:16 I am currently trying to improve different aspects of this to make the first experience for possible users/developers better Jan 09 09:52:19 Garfonso: btw. after feed loading works now with preware I don't get it displaying the feed content Jan 09 09:52:31 clicking on the all items list shows nothing Jan 09 09:53:38 Again? It feels like I fixed that a thousand times already. :( Ok, will look into that. Jan 09 09:53:46 :) Jan 09 10:00:04 morphis: for the moment, I'm on a simple rectangle with rounded corners. popup-bg.png gave awful results. Jan 09 10:02:33 Tofe, let me know any graphics you need recreated and I'll reach out to a graphics guy who volunteered earlier in the week :) Jan 09 10:04:53 Herrie|Work|Veer: well, soon I'll have a request for a popup background, and also maybe the popup buttons :) The goal would be to have an image that is well adapter for a BorderImage, i.e. fixed-size corner and strechable content Jan 09 10:05:08 adapted* Jan 09 10:05:35 I'll come back to you when I will have committed the early version of that popup Jan 09 10:06:28 Tofe: btw. do you have fun to work on something different after this? Jan 09 10:08:10 morphis: well, why not, yes Jan 09 10:09:36 Tofe: there are still the boot problems with the gnexus Jan 09 10:09:58 I already started to trace this but I would like to hand this over to you Jan 09 10:10:09 I will give you all the details later today Jan 09 10:11:28 ok Jan 09 10:18:33 I have a working and a not working kernel Jan 09 10:18:48 so basically its a matter of finding the change which broke it Jan 09 10:32:28 morphis: ok, that's much easier that way Jan 09 13:07:51 scoutcamper/ka6sox: ping Jan 09 17:01:57 Herrie, whats up? Jan 09 17:40:21 Can you give me access to the repo in webos-internals for the patches portal? Might have some chance to get the security leaks fixed and bring it back :) Jan 09 17:41:18 n Jan 09 17:42:21 Tofe|Away: ping Jan 09 17:43:10 Herrie, i dont have access to that Jan 09 17:43:26 morphis: pong Jan 09 17:43:54 Tofe: you have time so I can outline you the kernel problem? Jan 09 17:44:06 yes, I'm home now Jan 09 17:44:51 good Jan 09 17:44:58 need some minutes to settle Jan 09 17:45:11 scoutcamper: OK according to @webosinternals (I guess that's Rod) you or ka6sox should be able to give me access... It's a private repo I guess because I don't see it... Where's ka6sox when you need him? Jan 09 17:45:23 hmmmm Jan 09 17:45:28 let me look further then Jan 09 18:09:00 narf, Tofe you got all my messages? Jan 09 18:11:12 huh....mmmmh.... Jan 09 18:11:21 no ? :) Jan 09 18:12:05 narf Jan 09 18:12:33 http://pastebin.com/ps280LTU Jan 09 18:12:46 got that one :) Jan 09 18:12:54 ok Jan 09 18:13:42 morphis: ok, I see what you did Jan 09 18:14:14 I'll have a look at the git history, see first if something looks weird Jan 09 18:16:58 look at meta-samsung Jan 09 18:17:13 I suspect its some change in the kernel configuration Jan 09 18:18:41 there have been only 4 commits on the defconfig file since June, so it'll be straightforward, I can even test them one by one Jan 09 18:19:40 (but first, I would need to reconnect my sata hd, hehe) Jan 09 18:20:20 right Jan 09 18:20:56 Ok, I see how to analyse the problem, I'll work on that this w-e; I'll first polish my commit for the power menu, so that our new graphics friend can improve the graphic files Jan 09 18:22:04 Tofe: thanks a lot! Jan 09 18:29:33 Anyone here going to FOSDEM in February ? Jan 09 18:34:33 * morphis not Jan 09 18:34:37 JaMa: ping Jan 09 18:37:48 morphis: when power + vol- + vol+ doesn't reset the gnex, do you know something kinder than removing the battery ? Jan 09 18:38:11 I always remove the battery for this Jan 09 18:38:18 but maybe long pressing the power key helps Jan 09 18:40:31 ok, well, it rebooted by itself after a minute or two, this time. Jan 09 18:43:04 yeah the reboot hangs too sometimes Jan 09 18:45:02 morphis: http://pastebin.com/kCDDXd03 <-- does that look good, at first sight ? Jan 09 18:46:19 because the powerKeyPressed in PowerdService.js was more like Jan 09 18:46:19                 {kind:"PalmService", name:"powerKeyPressed", service:"palm://com.palm.bus/signal/", method:"addmatch", subscribe:true, onResponse:"powerOffHandleNotifications"} Jan 09 18:46:29 so I'm not really sure my signal path is correct here Jan 09 18:47:54 no it has to look different Jan 09 18:49:12 I changed it to " palm://com.palm.bus/signal/powerKeyPressed", looks better Jan 09 18:51:21 Tofe: something like http://pastebin.com/j4sGkmfB Jan 09 18:52:26 oooh, ok !! Jan 09 18:52:38 :) Jan 09 18:53:35 JaMa: I oversaw some issues when removing the PalmServiceBridge from qtwebkit Jan 09 18:53:42 I will bring it back now to get a fast solution Jan 09 18:58:38 Tofe: sorry I got the argument names wrong: http://pastebin.com/20ziPNbe is correct Jan 09 19:10:04 morphis: I'm almost ok, I just fail to subscribe to the right signal path: http://pastebin.com/rfXyPsKA Jan 09 19:11:03 Tofe: you don't need powerKeyService.subscribe("palm://com.palm.display/com/palm/display/powerKeyPressed", Jan 09 19:11:03 JSON.stringify({"subscribe":true}), onPowerKeyStatusChanged, onError) Jan 09 19:11:14 oh Jan 09 19:11:37 ok, I'll read a book on LS2 later, let me fix my code first :) Jan 09 19:11:49 ok Jan 09 19:13:03 it works ! Jan 09 19:14:45 yeah Jan 09 19:15:03 well, I didn't write the LS2 call to actually power off yet Jan 09 19:15:17 but the dialog shows up, so the big part is ok Jan 09 19:21:08 ok Jan 09 19:43:02 shutdown works Jan 09 19:45:44 reboot works Jan 09 19:45:51 I'll commit that. Jan 09 19:46:38 thanks Jan 09 19:48:36 the staging/10 image from January 6th won't boot in VBox for me. Neither windows nor linux. :( Jan 09 19:49:52 interesting Jan 09 19:50:08 JaMa: any idea? Jan 09 19:50:24 morphis: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/pull/50 Jan 09 19:51:24 Tofe: merged Jan 09 19:51:59 thx Jan 09 20:00:07 Tofe: pretty big is the menu on the gnexus Jan 09 20:00:26 height is between 45-50% of the screen height Jan 09 20:01:08 morphis: yes, I took the same height as the launcher bar, which is a bit too much I guess Jan 09 20:01:22 But I wanted to refine that together with the new graphics Jan 09 20:01:42 ah ok Jan 09 20:02:29 also, the screen dims off when the menu shows up Jan 09 20:02:39 I don't know how to cancel that one Jan 09 20:07:55 that is something we have to rework in luna-sysmgr Jan 09 20:08:14 but its working quite nice Jan 09 20:11:16 :) Jan 09 20:56:31 Tofe: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next/pull/59 Jan 09 21:29:40 Herrie: ping Jan 09 21:29:45 DougReeder: ping Jan 09 21:32:36 Herrie, DougReeder: the calculator still doesn't fit on the gnexus screen Jan 09 21:32:42 don't know how it is for the N7 Jan 09 21:32:51 Tofe: pushed all changes out now Jan 09 22:02:00 Morphis: pong Jan 09 22:15:28 morphis: ok! Jan 09 22:15:34 now, time to sleep Jan 09 22:15:35 gn8 Jan 09 23:10:42 morphis: pong, no idea about vbox boot, I was testing qemux86 in vbox and it was working fine for me **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jan 10 02:59:59 2014