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Jul 11 13:21:17 <Garfonso> somehow webos-lib ServiceRequest is not working for me, currently (neither legacy nor LuneOS)... anybody has a clue? Request is never going out to ls2 bus. Is it an issue with enyo 2.4?
Jul 11 13:50:33 <Garfonso> nevermind.. stupid me did forget the "palm://" again in the beginning.. :-( Nasty that we don't get an error for that.
Jul 11 13:53:43 <bigbluehat> folks in here might like breach.cc
Jul 11 13:53:55 <bigbluehat> http://breach.cc <-- HTML5 browser
Jul 11 13:54:12 <bigbluehat> as in a browser made of HTML5 (JS, etc) uses Node.js "underneath"
Jul 11 13:59:38 <Herrie> bigbluehat: I already saw this as well and passed it onto the browser experts to have a look at ;)
Jul 11 14:14:10 <bigbluehat> "the browser experts"?? I need some of those in my life. :)
Jul 11 14:14:14 * bigbluehat wants a new browser
Jul 11 14:14:19 <bigbluehat> breach.cc might be it
Jul 11 14:14:24 <bigbluehat> it's at least more easily hackable
Jul 11 14:24:35 <Herrie> Yes we're looking into it since we also use NodeJS ;)
Jul 11 14:24:50 <Herrie> But could be it's x86 only for the moment and no arm support, that's what we're looking into ;)
Jul 11 17:52:04 <Herrie> morphis: ping
Jul 11 20:33:19 <Darakian> pong
Jul 11 20:35:55 <Herrie> Darakian: Long time no see ;)
Jul 11 20:35:58 <Herrie> How are things?
Jul 11 20:36:06 <Darakian> things go good
Jul 11 20:36:22 <Darakian> setting up a new nas at work for some btrfs experimentation
Jul 11 20:36:26 <Darakian> yourself?
Jul 11 20:38:32 <Herrie> Good, playing with some images ;)
Jul 11 20:39:07 <Darakian> webos images?
Jul 11 20:39:17 <Herrie> Yes
Jul 11 20:39:19 <Darakian> I heard someone is working on a nexus 4 version :D
Jul 11 20:39:28 <Herrie> That one works quite well ;)
Jul 11 20:39:34 <Darakian> does it?
Jul 11 20:39:38 <Herrie> In general, still missing features but well
Jul 11 20:39:39 <Darakian> it's been a while
Jul 11 20:39:41 <Darakian> can I make calls on it?
Jul 11 20:39:42 <Herrie> It's quite smooth :)
Jul 11 20:39:42 <Darakian> :p
Jul 11 20:39:44 <Herrie> No calls yet ;)
Jul 11 20:39:47 <Darakian> lol
Jul 11 20:39:51 <Herrie> But soon it seems ;)
Jul 11 20:40:03 <Darakian> soon tm
Jul 11 20:40:05 <Herrie> We have a phone app that launches, can make calls but audio routing isn't working ;)
Jul 11 20:40:10 <Herrie> So needs some tweaking still
Jul 11 20:40:21 <Darakian> still using the libhybris?
Jul 11 20:40:24 <Herrie> Yup
Jul 11 20:40:39 <Darakian> must be helpful having the ubuntu and jolla people working on that too
Jul 11 20:40:48 <Herrie> It helps I guess
Jul 11 20:40:54 <Herrie> But also has it's quirks here and there
Jul 11 20:41:08 <Darakian> different goals?
Jul 11 20:41:09 <Herrie> Having always the latest & greatest also comes with downsides :'(
Jul 11 20:41:17 <Herrie> Bugs mainly ;)
Jul 11 20:41:53 <Darakian> lies
Jul 11 20:41:58 <Darakian> bleeding edge or no edge
Jul 11 20:42:03 <Darakian> 4 lyfe :p
Jul 11 20:42:16 * Darakian as he sets up a centos server
Jul 11 20:43:21 <Darakian> hey, is there any motion on a nexus 7 2013 image?
Jul 11 20:43:27 <Herrie> No ;)
Jul 11 20:43:31 <Herrie> But you're free to try :P
Jul 11 20:43:33 <Darakian> :(
Jul 11 20:43:46 <Darakian> why does no one support that thing?
Jul 11 20:43:52 <Darakian> there's like zero roms for it
Jul 11 20:44:02 <Darakian> zero interesting roms that is
Jul 11 20:44:29 <Herrie> Dunno
Jul 11 20:44:39 <Herrie> For us it's just a matter of priority
Jul 11 20:44:49 <Herrie> We can choose between more devices or more features ;)
Jul 11 20:44:54 <Herrie> So it's more features for now
Jul 11 20:44:56 <Darakian> ya
Jul 11 20:44:59 <Darakian> fair enough
Jul 11 20:45:02 <Herrie> Porting to "other" devices isn't that hard
Jul 11 20:45:06 <Darakian> calls are kinda important for a phone
Jul 11 20:45:24 <Herrie> Since we're basing on CM, so when there's a CM port, a LuneOS port is quite easy ;)
Jul 11 20:45:26 <Darakian> but like, firefox, ubuntu, jolla
Jul 11 20:45:34 <Darakian> no one goes for the n7 2013
Jul 11 20:45:42 <Darakian> luneOS?
Jul 11 20:45:46 <Herrie> They all have big dev teams, ours is really small ;)
Jul 11 20:46:25 <Herrie> http://pivotce.com/2014/06/13/webos-ports-surprises-with-touchpad-port-namelogo-change/
Jul 11 20:46:39 <Darakian> oh cool
Jul 11 20:46:49 <Darakian> need moon pics for wallpapers? :P
Jul 11 20:47:21 <Darakian> also CM does support the n7 2013 ;) http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Flo_Info
Jul 11 20:47:47 <Herrie> Yeah, if someone takes the time to port it for us, that would be good ;)
Jul 11 20:47:50 <Darakian> blood moon pic
Jul 11 20:47:51 <Herrie> We have instructions :P
Jul 11 20:47:51 <Darakian> https://secure.flickr.com/photos/darakian/13890232114/
Jul 11 20:48:27 <Darakian> where at?
Jul 11 20:48:51 <rebel1699> Is the nightly section for grouper being updated? Been 404 most of the day
Jul 11 20:49:34 <Herrie> http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Porting_Guide
Jul 11 20:49:42 <Herrie> rebel1699: It's moved ;)
Jul 11 20:50:09 <Herrie> http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports-staging/latest/images/
Jul 11 20:50:30 <Herrie> The stage was closed, so the images move to latest before a new stage build is kicked off ;)
Jul 11 20:51:07 <Herrie> I checked latest image on N4 and booting fine to UI
Jul 11 20:51:15 <Herrie> So in case there's a problem might be N7 specific
Jul 11 20:51:17 <Herrie> Or your config ;)
Jul 11 20:52:05 <Darakian> out of curiosity what filesystem are you guys using?
Jul 11 20:52:23 <Darakian> I ask because I've been following the sailfish stuff and they're running btrfs
Jul 11 20:52:37 <Herrie> Darakian not sure how to check ;)
Jul 11 20:52:40 <rebel1699> Possibly. 4-29 still does well. The nightlies just had no ui. But, storage was accessible over usb
Jul 11 20:52:50 <Darakian> got a terminal?
Jul 11 20:52:57 <Herrie> Darakian: Yes ;)
Jul 11 20:52:58 <Darakian> cat /etc/fstab
Jul 11 20:53:30 <Darakian> iirc my pre 2 had fstab so unless that changed....
Jul 11 20:53:52 <Herrie> No that's still there
Jul 11 20:53:57 <Herrie> What I'm looking for?
Jul 11 20:54:21 <Herrie> rebel1699: It boots to UI on N4
Jul 11 20:54:25 <Darakian> the third (fourth maybe) to last item on a line
Jul 11 20:54:30 <Darakian> ext, xfs, tmpfs
Jul 11 20:54:34 <Darakian> something like that
Jul 11 20:54:55 <Darakian> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/fstab-sample-343424/
Jul 11 20:55:06 <Darakian> sample fstab
Jul 11 20:56:01 <Herrie> tmpfs I guess
Jul 11 20:56:09 <Darakian> is that the only one?
Jul 11 20:56:11 <Herrie> This fingerterm is a pain
Jul 11 20:56:14 <Herrie> No there are many
Jul 11 20:56:23 <Darakian> tmpfs is a temp fs
Jul 11 20:56:26 <Darakian> uses ram and swap
Jul 11 20:56:28 <Herrie> Just fingerterm uses Courier or something as font and doesn't align nicely
Jul 11 20:56:33 <Darakian> ah
Jul 11 20:56:37 <rebel1699> Ok. Ill wait for the newest stable to be posted and ill check config.
Jul 11 20:56:41 <Darakian> can you screenshot it?
Jul 11 20:56:41 <Herrie> And ADB doesn't want to work ;)
Jul 11 20:56:52 <Herrie> Dunno why
Jul 11 20:56:58 <Herrie> Works on laptop but on PC cannot see device :S
Jul 11 20:58:07 <Herrie> Let me boot my N4
Jul 11 20:58:12 <Darakian> rgr
Jul 11 21:01:43 <Herrie> Grr wifi broken in latest build :S
Jul 11 21:01:56 <Herrie> And ADB too so cannot pull screenshot :S
Jul 11 21:01:58 <Herrie> GRRRRR
Jul 11 21:07:44 <rebel1699> Dang, I am so close to getting this init patched. Aggravating. Lol
Jul 11 21:23:38 <Garfonso> Darakian, Herrie: it uses ext3
Jul 11 21:25:02 <Garfonso> morphis: I just got the service issue also on a touchpad... strangely the install is ok on Veer and a Pre3... so maybe an issue with the file or something in 3.0.x is wrong? I don't know too much about this tbh ;)
Jul 11 21:26:27 <Darakian> ah
Jul 11 21:26:32 <Darakian> ext3 is ok I guess
Jul 11 21:26:50 <Darakian> should maybe look at moving to f2fs or btrfs at some point
Jul 11 21:27:12 <rebel1699> I could have swore the init specified ext4
Jul 11 21:39:34 <Garfonso> morphis: easiest "work around" seems to be to just let the service-name end in ".service". Although that restriction feels pretty strange. Sorry for the fuss.
Jul 11 21:45:17 <rebel1699> Having to repack this from an ubuntu desktop port on my N7 is some tedious stuff.
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