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Aug 21 08:16:36 <nizovn> Hello. Can I submit pull request to luna-next? It solves very small bug #433(tap ripple), solution almost the same as recent devicekeyhandler. Tested on qemux86, dora.
Aug 21 08:21:06 <Garfonso> sure you can.
Aug 21 08:23:21 <Garfonso> you can have a look here for some formal aspects: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Submitting_Contributions
Aug 21 08:29:25 <nizovn> Thanks, I' try. Are signoff and licence header required?
Aug 21 08:35:33 <Herrie|Veer> nizovn: What did you solve for the tap ripple?
Aug 21 08:36:58 <Herrie|Veer> Signed-off-by: Name <email>
Aug 21 08:37:07 <Herrie|Veer> That should do in general
Aug 21 08:37:25 <Herrie|Veer> Not sure what you changed, license is normally once per file
Aug 21 08:39:30 <Herrie|Veer> You happened to have solved the issue that the tap ripple goes to the other side of screen when you tap left most or right most position?
Aug 21 08:39:39 <Herrie|Veer> That one was bothering me :P
Aug 21 08:41:33 <nizovn> No, just "Tap ripple doesn't respect swipe gestures"
Aug 21 08:42:03 <Herrie|Veer> Ah :)
Aug 21 08:42:13 <Herrie|Veer> I'm working on the browser atm :)
Aug 21 08:42:18 <Herrie|Veer> In QML
Aug 21 08:42:33 <Herrie|Veer> Trying to mimic legacy 3.x browser for now :)
Aug 21 08:43:23 <Herrie|Veer> Looking quite nice already, just needs some more polishing + implementing bookmarks, sharing, downloads, url suggestions et
Aug 21 08:43:59 <Herrie|Veer> Basics are there. Loading, URL validation, Google search, back/forward, progress bar :)
Aug 21 08:48:25 <nizovn> Nice, glad to hear. Hope it won't lose connections like the old one.:)
Aug 21 08:48:57 <Herrie|Veer> Well it's a very basic QML app that uses a webview
Aug 21 08:49:42 <Herrie|Veer> It's not very advanced, doesn't use browserServer and Adapter ;)
Aug 21 08:50:07 <Herrie|Veer> So should be better, but webView in QML is somewhat limited I guess
Aug 21 08:51:05 <Herrie|Veer> Anyway this browser in QML solves the issue we had where bottom half of screen became unresponsive after keyboard popped up and app was closed... Was really annoying ;)
Aug 21 08:53:14 <Herrie|Veer> Still need to do thorough on device testing ;)
Aug 21 08:53:26 <Herrie|Veer> Just 2nd day I'm working on it :)
Aug 21 08:53:40 <Herrie|Veer> And QML is quite new to me, so lots of trial and error
Aug 21 08:56:10 <nizovn> Yeah, me too. Btw am I the only one with non-working emulator after its reboot?
Aug 21 08:56:57 <Herrie|Veer> Emulator is a bit buggy lately...
Aug 21 08:57:16 <Herrie|Veer> I noticed it's very slow and hangs for me on a regular basis
Aug 21 08:57:32 <Herrie|Veer> When you have a TP I'd recommend to use that one ;)
Aug 21 08:58:23 <nizovn> OK, will try on it too.
Aug 21 09:01:37 <Herrie|Veer> Works quite stable for me :P
Aug 21 09:02:44 <Garfonso> hm.. reboot usually works for me.
Aug 21 09:02:58 <Garfonso> but emulator really hangs often, lately.
Aug 21 09:03:20 <Garfonso> I advise to connect to emulator via ssh and type "killall luna-next" in those situations
Aug 21 09:03:27 <Garfonso> best leave console open. ;)
Aug 21 09:03:33 <Herrie|Veer> Garfonso: same for me
Aug 21 09:04:02 <Garfonso> nice thing is that luna-next comes up again real fast. :)
Aug 21 09:06:26 <nizovn> strange, I can't also login by ssh(in both dev and usual image). Seems I definitely do something wrong.
Aug 21 09:10:45 <Garfonso> oh, ok.. if you can't login, then something else is crashed... I sometimes those crashes on older versions of VirtualBox
Aug 21 09:18:31 <nizovn> seems you are right, haven't updated it after a lot of tricks to load webos sdk emulator.
Aug 21 09:33:12 <Herrie|Veer> nizovn: I have a patch somewhere on webOSNation to make the SDK images work with newer VirtualBox
Aug 21 09:35:43 <nizovn> Yes, thanks a lot, I saw it recently just had no time.
Aug 21 10:08:06 <nizovn> I've just tried dora tenderloin build and it hung on reboot, and can't see any logs.
Aug 21 10:31:49 <Herrie|Veer> It should work, tried it on mine regular Wifi and 4G TP
Aug 21 10:32:52 <Herrie|Veer> make sure to get the .tar.gz and uImage from build.webos-ports.org/luneos-stable/images/tenderloin
Aug 21 10:33:07 <Herrie|Veer> Instructions for dual boot are on the wiki
Aug 21 10:37:09 <nizovn> ok, ignore my message, I've compiled it myself.
Aug 21 10:37:37 <nizovn> contribution guide says to use tab characters, but there are a lot of files with spaces or even with mixed style. I should ignore this rule? Sorry for stupid questions, just want to follow the rules.
Aug 21 10:46:04 <Herrie|Veer> Ehm contribution guide is correct, but we need some code cleaning here and there still ;)
Aug 21 11:04:10 <Garfonso> I'd say use what the file mainly uses, if possible...
Aug 21 11:04:41 <Garfonso> it's true that the style is not strictly enforced everywhere. And probably my fault also at some places. ;)
Aug 21 11:18:36 <nizovn> ok:)
Aug 21 11:24:38 <Herrie|Veer> Mine for sure ;)
Aug 21 12:41:44 <nizovn> so, PR is completed. Are somewhere another available bugs?:) I see only two unassigned issues on tracker. preferably c/c++, maybe simple qml. Thanks for help.
Aug 21 12:44:15 <Garfonso> oh, I'm sure people won't mind if you look into already assigned bugs... at least I won't. Also you might find stuff if you play around with the system, I'm pretty sure.
Aug 21 12:44:30 <Garfonso> I don't really know what there is to do on the C++ side, though... hm
Aug 21 12:44:47 <Garfonso> so you are not into JS/Enyo? ;)
Aug 21 12:51:14 <nizovn> No, I'm completely noob in JS, have never faced with it on work.;)
Aug 21 12:55:18 <Garfonso> then probably best ask morphis what there is to be done in C++ or QML.. he has the best overview.
Aug 21 12:56:01 <Garfonso> you don't happen to have a GNex and want to fight with crashes on the kernel level? ;)
Aug 21 12:57:44 <nizovn> sorry, don't have gnex and skills.:)
Aug 21 13:09:22 <Garfonso> just asking... seems we are missing a maintainer for that device. :-/
Aug 21 13:55:41 <morphis> nizovn: nice to see that bug fixed :)
Aug 21 13:55:46 <morphis> thanks a lot for it!
Aug 21 13:57:22 <morphis> nizovn: there are quite a lot things we need help with and those are not always in the bug tracker
Aug 21 13:57:46 <morphis> nizovn: but depends on your knowlege
Aug 21 14:05:53 <morphis> nizovn: if you're more on c++/c level that would be awesome :)
Aug 21 14:13:49 <nizovn> Yes, I'm more on c/c++, honestly not a professional programmer, but I think with google I may be somewhat useful. If there are any bugs that are not critical to solve in short time, I would like to help.:)
Aug 21 14:15:18 <morphis> ok
Aug 21 14:15:30 <morphis> mainly I there is a little bit more complex thing
Aug 21 14:16:26 <morphis> but we can start with small bug fixes too
Aug 21 14:17:21 <morphis> nizovn: I can describe you the complex one or give you a bug first, tell me what you want :)
Aug 21 14:18:50 <nizovn> I think start with bug.
Aug 21 14:20:11 <morphis> good
Aug 21 14:20:16 <morphis> http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/529
Aug 21 14:20:26 <morphis> btw. that is on daisy, not dora
Aug 21 14:21:37 <morphis> to build daisy you have to setup another build-tree
Aug 21 14:21:43 <morphis> use this makefile: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/webOS-ports/webos-ports-setup/testing/Makefile
Aug 21 14:24:06 <nizovn> ok, I'll try
Aug 21 14:25:02 <morphis> when you need more info ping me
Aug 21 14:25:09 <morphis> nizovn: btw. which target device are you using?
Aug 21 14:25:33 <nizovn> emulator and tenderloin
Aug 21 14:26:34 <morphis> good
Aug 21 14:28:20 <morphis> nizovn: one important thing: we're now differentiating between stable and testing
Aug 21 14:28:26 <morphis> all development goes into testing
Aug 21 14:28:53 <morphis> which is released at the end of a month to stable
Aug 21 14:29:45 <nizovn> ok
Aug 21 14:45:25 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: ping
Aug 21 14:45:47 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: pong
Aug 21 14:46:16 <Herrie|Veer> Did another PR for the browser :)
Aug 21 14:46:26 <Herrie|Veer> Looks nice now :) And can do more :)
Aug 21 14:46:33 <morphis> hehe
Aug 21 14:46:36 <Herrie|Veer> Next step is implementing db stuffs :)
Aug 21 14:46:48 <Herrie|Veer> Just not sure how to go about that
Aug 21 14:46:49 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: for db stuff you need ls2 support
Aug 21 14:46:57 <morphis> we have that in LunaNext.Common
Aug 21 14:46:58 <Herrie|Veer> Also my launch doesn't seem to work
Aug 21 14:47:05 <morphis> which we're also using in the cardshell
Aug 21 14:47:39 <Herrie|Veer> Yeah I copied that. For new card I try to launch new browser currently but fail
Aug 21 14:47:59 <Herrie|Veer> Error looks similar to above 529 one
Aug 21 14:48:07 <Herrie|Veer> Let me paste it somewhere
Aug 21 14:48:09 <morphis> ok
Aug 21 14:50:24 <Herrie|Veer> http://bpaste.net/show/7332873aa284
Aug 21 14:50:55 <Herrie|Veer> Could for sure be me doing stuff wrong did some C&P from CardShell
Aug 21 14:56:22 <morphis> give me a few seconds
Aug 21 15:16:27 <Herrie|Veer> My N4 is acting funny again, doesn't want to turn on or charge :s
Aug 21 15:16:58 <Herrie|Veer> No red light, nothing. Tried holding power for 15 secs, power + vol down but no avail so far...
Aug 21 15:17:11 <Herrie|Veer> N4 is a bit funky sometimes :s
Aug 21 15:21:07 <morphis> yeah
Aug 21 15:21:19 <nizovn> btw, when trying to build image from scratch, it fails with "Failed to fetch test data from the network...". This can be fixed by setting CONNECTIVITY_CHECK_URIS = ""(which is set in webos.inc) in conf/local.conf
Aug 21 15:21:23 <morphis> you need the original charger if you want to revive it from a possible death
Aug 21 15:21:32 <morphis> nizovn: yeah
Aug 21 15:21:54 <morphis> JaMa: ^^ is there something we can improve with CONNECTIVTY_CHECK_URIS? see this problem also very often in the last time
Aug 21 15:23:07 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: Was using TP charger, need to find original at home, must be somewhere at desk if I remember correctly :P
Aug 21 15:23:41 <morphis> :)
Aug 21 15:31:05 <JaMa> morphis: yes, set it to empty or something else
Aug 21 15:31:53 <morphis> JaMa: yeah but it fails for a lot of people so we should consider setting it to empty by default or something that works
Aug 21 15:43:58 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: basically it's a permission problem
Aug 21 15:44:05 <morphis> you have a recent image on your device?
Aug 21 15:48:42 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: y'day Tenderloin build
Aug 21 15:49:38 <morphis> ok
Aug 21 15:49:42 <Herrie|Veer> Maybe browser needs to get permissions somewhere before it can make calls?
Aug 21 15:49:46 <morphis> then luna-qml-launcher should have support for that already
Aug 21 15:49:49 <morphis> right
Aug 21 15:50:31 <morphis> you need a appdir/roles/prv and appdir/roles/pub directory
Aug 21 15:50:38 <morphis> put in the role files there
Aug 21 15:51:11 <morphis> use something like this: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.update/master/service/files/sysbus/org.webosports.service.update.json.prv for now
Aug 21 15:51:23 <morphis> but change allowed names to ""
Aug 21 15:51:36 <morphis> and remove the service entry
Aug 21 15:51:41 <morphis> didn't tested that yet
Aug 21 15:51:56 <morphis> maybe I will generate those bits on the fly, maybe not
Aug 21 15:54:42 <Herrie|Veer> Not sure I follow, this should be in /usr/palm/applications/org.webosports.app.browser/roles/prv and /pub ?
Aug 21 15:55:36 <Herrie|Veer> Or in the luna-qml-launcher?
Aug 21 15:56:25 <morphis> right
Aug 21 15:57:36 <morphis> hm, but I think that will change and will not be needed
Aug 21 15:57:56 <morphis> will differentiate prv/pub access by appId again and don't require any role files
Aug 21 15:58:50 <Herrie|Veer> OK I'll leave it the way it is now and can be changed later when needed
Aug 21 16:00:09 <Herrie|Veer> For the rest my coding skills suck so I hope my QML doesn't give you too much headaches :P
Aug 21 16:00:32 <Herrie|Veer> I'm sure stuff could be done a lot nicer/cleaner but it works :P
Aug 21 16:04:50 <morphis> always :)
Aug 21 16:04:54 <morphis> even if I would do it
Aug 21 16:05:11 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: btw. why using multiple windows for multiple pages? why not just using tabs?
Aug 21 16:06:54 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: Well this is quick and dirty for now :P
Aug 21 16:07:46 <Herrie|Veer> Tabs is quite complicated I guess, need to look into that more. Can always rework it. Launching I need anyway for the sharing options via email, IM, Macaw whatsoever :P
Aug 21 16:10:18 <Herrie|Veer> So the permissions I need anyway :p
Aug 21 16:41:49 <Tofe> Oh, I completely missed the discussion here; I merged Herrie's work, as it seemed to be quite fine (and improvements over before), I hope I didn't get in the way :)
Aug 21 16:42:10 <morphis> Tofe: no, its fine :)
Aug 21 16:45:26 <Herrie|away> Can I add the experimental webkit stuff as well?
Aug 21 16:45:36 <Herrie|away> Might improve our html5test.com scores :P
Aug 21 16:49:12 <Tofe> Herrie: not sure we have the choice anyway, if we want to get a decent browser experience
Aug 21 16:50:19 <Tofe> Also we already use some experimental stuff for the enyo apps, iirc
Aug 21 17:06:46 <Herrie> OK :D
Aug 21 17:06:54 <Herrie> Will add some then later today or tomorrow
Aug 21 17:46:53 <Herrie> I guess they're already enabled, I don't get another score ;)
Aug 21 17:47:12 <Herrie> morphis can confirm I guess
Aug 21 18:01:36 <morphis> Herrie: the experimental stuff is fine to use
Aug 21 18:01:42 <morphis> it's just experimental API wise
Aug 21 18:01:45 <morphis> but stable otherwise
Aug 21 18:04:03 <morphis> Herrie: is one wrong assumption in your code
Aug 21 18:04:13 <morphis> launching org.webosports.app.browser will not launch a second instance
Aug 21 18:04:19 <morphis> it will simply relaunch the already running one
Aug 21 18:05:16 <morphis> Herrie: but looks already really nice
Aug 21 18:07:47 <Herrie> Ah ok, I thought we could have multiple instances :P
Aug 21 18:09:14 <morphis> no
Aug 21 18:09:20 <morphis> you can have multiple windows
Aug 21 18:09:54 <morphis> for one instance
Aug 21 18:10:27 <Herrie> Ah ok
Aug 21 18:10:52 <Herrie> So I would need to add a launch parameter to my call and then catch that in the browser app and action upon it?
Aug 21 18:16:35 <morphis> Herrie: there are two things:
Aug 21 18:17:19 <morphis> 1. Relaunch handling: when relaunch we need to check for the url parameter (that is afaik the one supplied by other components when wanting to open a url) and load it
Aug 21 18:17:28 <morphis> 2. Opening a new tab or window
Aug 21 18:17:36 <morphis> I would really like to go for tab handling
Aug 21 18:19:22 <Herrie> morphis: OK
Aug 21 18:19:42 <Herrie> No clue how to so tabs, but will peek at Snowshoe ;)
Aug 21 18:19:50 <Herrie> Or QT examples for clues
Aug 21 18:19:54 <morphis> Herrie: let me create a simple example
Aug 21 18:20:58 <Tofe> tabs with Qt/QML is still quite done by hand (switch of tabs, containers, etc), though there are some helpers
Aug 21 18:24:39 <Herrie> morphis: great, I can take it from there I guess :D
Aug 21 18:31:54 <morphis> Herrie: see tab-support branch
Aug 21 18:31:57 <morphis> quick-and-dirty
Aug 21 18:32:10 <morphis> http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qml-qtquick-controls-tabview.html
Aug 21 18:32:30 <morphis> you really want a http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qml-qtquick-controls-styles-tabviewstyle.html to change the look of the tabview
Aug 21 18:39:27 <GodGinrai> Why would we need tabs when we have cards?
Aug 21 18:47:51 <Tofe> morphis: ^ I have the same innocent question :)
Aug 21 19:00:16 <nizovn> I'm having trouble with fetching qtwayland. webos-ports premirror has excess /webos-ports/ directory in url, all other mirror also not working, upstream doesn't have 'stable' branch. This can be temporarily solved by choosing '5.4' branch in qt5-git.inc
Aug 21 19:14:10 <GodGinrai> morphis: ?_?
Aug 21 19:15:10 <GodGinrai> nizovn: is OWO already using pure wayland?
Aug 21 19:16:23 <morphis> GodGinrai, Tofe: you would vote for using cards instead?
Aug 21 19:16:54 <morphis> nizovn: qtwayland should be fetched from git if not available on premirror
Aug 21 19:17:04 <GodGinrai> morphis: certainly
Aug 21 19:17:55 <morphis> UI wise it would be the webOS way
Aug 21 19:18:07 <GodGinrai> yep
Aug 21 19:20:14 <GodGinrai> Btw, morphis, what kind of coding is involved in implementing new card features into Luna?
Aug 21 19:20:54 <GodGinrai> and by "what kind of coding", I mean which languages and frameworks
Aug 21 19:21:19 <morphis> QML/JS and sometimes a bit C++ for more complex things
Aug 21 19:21:28 <nizovn> GodGinrai: I'm first day here.:) You may want to ask somebody else.
Aug 21 19:21:39 <GodGinrai> nizovn: I see ;)
Aug 21 19:21:49 <GodGinrai> morphis: more complex things like stacks?
Aug 21 19:21:51 <morphis> GodGinrai: we tried to kept most things in QML/js when possible
Aug 21 19:22:06 <morphis> GodGinrai: card stacks is something Tofe is currently working on
Aug 21 19:22:15 <morphis> a first experimental version is already merged
Aug 21 19:22:23 <morphis> and it's a pure QML/JS implementation
Aug 21 19:22:27 <GodGinrai> currently?  Are they currently missing from OWO?
Aug 21 19:23:25 <morphis> Lune OS is a real fork of OWO
Aug 21 19:23:45 <morphis> so most of the things we're doing here isn't in OWO
Aug 21 19:23:48 <morphis> and will never be
Aug 21 19:24:00 <GodGinrai> I see
Aug 21 19:24:01 <morphis> Herrie: what do you think about tabs vs. cards?
Aug 21 19:24:11 <GodGinrai> what led to the decision to fork?
Aug 21 19:25:07 <morphis> maybe fork is a little bit to hard
Aug 21 19:25:16 <morphis> lets say it with other words:
Aug 21 19:25:45 <morphis> we're creating our own variant of OWO with using still a lot of it's core components but wrote our complete own UI
Aug 21 19:25:52 <morphis> and various other bits
Aug 21 19:26:24 <GodGinrai> so you chpse to replace Luna?
Aug 21 19:26:25 <morphis> so we're OWO minus the old UI plus our full new UI stack plus a lot of other things which are still missing in OWO
Aug 21 19:26:34 <morphis> you mean LunaSysMgr, right?
Aug 21 19:26:37 <GodGinrai> yes
Aug 21 19:26:53 <morphis> it's still there but doesn't do any UI stuff anymore
Aug 21 19:26:58 <GodGinrai> I see
Aug 21 19:27:12 <morphis> our new UI stack is called LunaNext
Aug 21 19:27:14 <morphis> fully wayland based
Aug 21 19:27:19 <GodGinrai> neat
Aug 21 19:27:49 <morphis> and you can take it's full UI implementation and run it quite easily on the desktop: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell
Aug 21 19:27:57 <morphis> within QtCreator and develop on it
Aug 21 19:28:06 <GodGinrai> morphis: glorious
Aug 21 19:28:22 <morphis> take https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/blob/master/qml/CardsPage.qml as example
Aug 21 19:28:46 <morphis> if you know enyo, QML is only a short step away
Aug 21 19:28:52 <morphis> and quite powerful
Aug 21 19:29:06 <GodGinrai> interesting
Aug 21 19:29:16 <GodGinrai> I'm interested in extending the card metaphor
Aug 21 19:29:25 <GodGinrai> so I will probably look into this
Aug 21 19:30:50 <GodGinrai> morphis: any particular reason you went w/ QT over EFL?
Aug 21 19:30:54 <GodGinrai> *Qt
Aug 21 19:31:09 <morphis> GodGinrai: puuh
Aug 21 19:31:19 <morphis> I worked with EFL in the past
Aug 21 19:31:48 <morphis> but Qt/QML is better imho, QML allows you much shorter development cycles
Aug 21 19:32:00 <morphis> EFL still requires a lot of C/C++ coding
Aug 21 19:32:12 <GodGinrai> I see
Aug 21 19:32:13 <morphis> and that is what we wanted to minimize
Aug 21 19:32:23 <morphis> also to get more people involved
Aug 21 19:48:09 <morphis> Herrie: to add card support: just continue for now as if you would do a single page browser
Aug 21 19:58:44 <Herrie> morphis: Was out for a long wife with the mrs ;)
Aug 21 19:58:59 <Herrie> I'd say cards is better compared to tabs in webOS style ;)
Aug 21 19:59:00 <morphis> :)
Aug 21 19:59:06 <Herrie> Might be easier to implement too?
Aug 21 19:59:06 <morphis> good
Aug 21 19:59:11 <morphis> depends
Aug 21 19:59:16 <Herrie> We should just allow multiple instances of browser?
Aug 21 19:59:32 <morphis> no
Aug 21 19:59:42 <morphis> just one app process but multiple windows
Aug 21 20:02:37 <Herrie> OK, any ideas how to implement this? I guess needs some magic on backend from you?
Aug 21 20:02:44 <Herrie> Before I can move on with this?
Aug 21 20:03:28 <morphis> right
Aug 21 20:03:38 <Herrie> OK will focus on other bits first then :)
Aug 21 20:03:42 <morphis> Herrie: for now just proceed as you do without caring about it
Aug 21 20:03:54 <Herrie> Still need to do some UI tweaking + DB access stuff like bookmarks etc
Aug 21 20:03:59 <Herrie> Will try to see how to do that
Aug 21 20:04:10 <morphis> btw. DB access should be possible with the next build
Aug 21 20:04:23 <morphis> hm, maybe not
Aug 21 20:05:41 <Herrie> Tofe: Any suggestions about what to use for the layout bits for this?
Aug 21 20:08:03 <Tofe> Herrie: this == bookmarks ?
Aug 21 20:09:12 <Tofe> Herrie: in that case, I'd say a first version would be a show/hide button for a side panel with the list of bookmarks
Aug 21 20:10:22 <Tofe> morphis: I don't have a preference for tab or windows yet, I just don't see the advantage of having one over the other solution
Aug 21 20:10:47 <Tofe> currently, only "it's more WebOS style" has come out
Aug 21 20:11:02 <Tofe> which is, of course, an argument for windows
Aug 21 20:11:54 <Tofe> time to sleep a bit -- bye !
Aug 21 20:14:09 <morphis> Herrie: btw. you need https://github.com/isis-project/isis-browser/tree/master/db first
Aug 21 20:29:33 <Herrie> morphis: OK how do I get these in? Just Luna-send somehow?
Aug 21 20:32:07 <morphis> put them into /etc/palm/db/kinds/
Aug 21 20:32:08 <morphis> then run
Aug 21 20:32:28 <morphis> /usr/bin/luna-send -n 1 palm://com.palm.configurator/run '{"types":["dbkinds","filecache"]}'
Aug 21 20:32:33 <morphis> Herrie: but you have to change the owner
Aug 21 20:32:38 <morphis> to org.webosports.app.browser
Aug 21 20:32:40 <Herrie> OK
Aug 21 20:43:36 <morphis> but that will still not work from the QML side
Aug 21 20:46:35 <Herrie> OK well I can make something with mock data for now and you can fix back end?
Aug 21 20:51:35 <morphis> yeah
Aug 21 20:51:46 <morphis> need to wind my around this ..
Aug 21 20:55:02 <Herrie> No rush, I'll be busy for a while with mock stuff I guess anyway before it's in a usable state
Aug 21 20:55:16 <Herrie> Little one still not here, should come anytime too :P
Aug 21 21:08:18 <morphis> Herrie: and then you really have different things in mind :)
Aug 21 21:12:53 <morphis> Herrie: btw. can you do me a favour and double check the latest stable images for mako, tenderloin and emulator?
Aug 21 21:13:53 <morphis> JaMa: why do we have a 024 image in luneos-stable when we only have 23 stages?
Aug 21 21:19:19 <Herrie> Tenderloin is OK, Mako too
Aug 21 21:19:30 <Herrie> Just have doubts about uImages, they are hit & miss for me
Aug 21 21:19:37 <Herrie> Wifi is broken often for some reason
Aug 21 21:19:46 <Herrie> I know 5th of August uImage works 100%
Aug 21 21:19:53 <Herrie> Others not always
Aug 21 21:23:12 <morphis> WiFi on tenderloin?
Aug 21 21:23:48 <morphis> Herrie: see http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/527
Aug 21 21:23:59 <morphis> please check if you see the same on dmesg
Aug 21 21:48:37 <Herrie> morphis: Yes on TP
Aug 21 21:48:40 <Herrie> Will check
Aug 21 21:48:43 <Herrie> With which uImage?
Aug 21 21:48:45 <morphis> good
Aug 21 21:48:47 <Herrie> Latest stable?
Aug 21 21:49:00 <morphis> can happen one every uImage
Aug 21 21:49:07 <Herrie> Ah ok
Aug 21 21:49:19 <Herrie> 2nd boot shoot be better you say?
Aug 21 22:03:09 <morphis> yes
Aug 21 22:03:16 <morphis> but not sure yet why it happens
Aug 21 22:04:42 <morphis> Herrie: ok, found a solution for the db8 access
Aug 21 22:06:04 <Herrie> Also noticed some other bugs
Aug 21 22:06:13 <Herrie> Apps don't seem to launch on first try or take very long
Aug 21 22:06:25 <Herrie> Also touch access is lost on TP sometimes after coming from sleep
Aug 21 22:13:49 <morphis> Herrie: please create issues for all of them
Aug 21 22:18:11 <morphis> Herrie: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=RVqu7qFb
Aug 21 22:22:51 <morphis> Herrie: new builds are triggered
Aug 21 22:36:58 <JaMa> morphis: there was issue in rsync job, so the 024 image is actually what should be in wip and is identical with 023
Aug 21 22:46:04 <morphis> ah ok
Aug 21 23:54:35 <dklee> Hello there.
Aug 21 23:55:36 <dklee> Can I ask questions for Nexus 4 webos port?
Aug 22 00:58:50 <dklee> Hello...
Aug 22 00:59:03 <dklee> Anybody here?
Aug 22 01:21:38 <ka6sox> 2 minutes…not a record...
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