**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 22 02:59:59 2014 Aug 22 05:01:25 morphis :D Aug 22 05:01:43 My N4 was charging overnight with original cable + plug still no sign of life :'( Aug 22 05:01:46 Any suggestions? Aug 22 05:02:06 Tried holding power for 15-30 secs, power + vol down, while unplugging + replugging etc Aug 22 05:11:15 Herrie, is this your daily driver? Aug 22 05:12:46 No, Thats my Veer... Aug 22 05:12:56 I had this one just for dev + testing ;) Aug 22 05:14:41 Herrie, do you have shoppes that replace batteries? Aug 22 05:14:49 we do here. Aug 22 05:16:42 Might be, not sure what's the issue... I think it ran flat Aug 22 05:16:49 Should charge but doesn't :S Aug 22 05:17:21 Well anyway still have 18 months warranty on it Aug 22 05:17:29 Or something like that Aug 22 05:17:38 Not going to bother about battery myself :P Aug 22 05:21:35 okay Aug 22 06:02:31 morphis, Tofe|Away: I like the multiple windows solution for browser. If we get stacks working properly, that's one real good application of them. And it is a lot more webos style. ;) Aug 22 07:12:43 morning Aug 22 07:12:50 morphis: ping Aug 22 07:16:15 morning Aug 22 07:17:51 Garfonso: You happened to have checked recent TP image? Seems like I cannot connect to wifi with PW Aug 22 07:18:22 Not sure if it's John's rework to the app or something else, will dig into logs ;) Aug 22 07:18:34 No, sadly I did not find the time yet to install LuneOS on my TP.. :-/ Aug 22 07:19:22 also I'd need to find my spare TP and probably will have to revive the battery ;) Aug 22 07:19:40 Ah :) Aug 22 07:19:51 Well install is quick in general ;) Aug 22 07:20:04 Takes 5-10 mins when you have the files Aug 22 07:44:17 issue is in the last weeks I was either at work or working on our family business after work. :-/ Aug 22 07:44:46 I'll switch over to family business fulltime in 2015, that'll give me some more spare time. But till then it might get a bit rough. Aug 22 08:01:26 Ah I see :) Aug 22 08:53:25 morning Aug 22 08:53:47 Morning Aug 22 08:54:11 Tofe: Seems the kb bug still present even with QML browser after kb hides :'( Aug 22 08:54:30 oh, no... Aug 22 08:54:45 Though ONLY for swipe gestures! Aug 22 08:54:58 Touch now works on bottom half and launches Aug 22 08:55:13 Just swiping up card doesn't work on bottom half now Aug 22 08:55:17 Top half is fine Aug 22 08:56:19 So maybe you need to resize the swipe area after kb closes? Aug 22 08:57:30 that's... strange Aug 22 08:57:40 the swipe area isn't resized, actually Aug 22 08:59:34 Just throwing out thoughts ;) Aug 22 09:00:01 The thing is Touch didn't work before, at least wouldn't launch apps, ripple WAS visible Aug 22 09:00:32 Touch works now, but swipe not from just below half the screen (where I'm quite sure kb was before) Aug 22 09:00:50 ok Aug 22 09:01:14 if touch works but not swipe, then it might simply be a qml mistake Aug 22 09:01:44 Yeah... You're more qml expert :P Aug 22 09:01:50 I just started :P Aug 22 09:03:43 I will update existing bug with findings Aug 22 09:31:25 hopefully when I'll be back home I'll be able to resume the qml work :) Aug 22 09:31:58 here with a 9" 5-year-old netbook it's not really perfect Aug 22 09:47:50 Tofe: lol yeah 9" 5 year old is not much good I'm sure :P Aug 22 10:34:52 btw lockscreen in emulator can't unlock Aug 22 10:38:20 Herrie: I just committed a fix which could, maybe, help that. But mostly it helps swiping up/down the cards. Aug 22 11:06:26 Herrie: thanks for http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/535, but it's going to be hard ride to fix it ... Aug 22 11:26:04 nizovn: there is a lock screen in emulator? Aug 22 11:29:10 morphis: sometimes in emulator, if I run webapp-launcher via ssh, I can't see the app come up as window although in the console it is running (IIRC there is some error message printed). If I just quit and run again, it usually works. Aug 22 11:29:17 maybe that's somehow related? Aug 22 11:29:48 Garfonso: yes, it appears after killall luna-next Aug 22 11:32:22 nizovn: hm.. not for me. Do you use the dev package? Aug 22 11:32:47 yes, daisy. Aug 22 11:33:30 hm.. ok. Maybe mine is older, then. Aug 22 12:00:54 The lock screen thing is quite recent yes Aug 22 12:30:43 feature request: it would be great if card closes when it is lifted higher than 1/4 of screen, like in webOS.(it's impossible to close it in emulator) Aug 22 12:31:29 nizovn: if that isn't implemented yet, I'm sure that is planned Aug 22 12:53:53 nizovn: currently it has to be associated to a swipe gesture, but you're right, in webOS you can drag it slowly to the upper part of the screen and it will be closed Aug 22 12:55:08 Tofe: you're working on stacks currently, right? Aug 22 13:31:48 GodGinray: Yes stacks is working in general but needs enabling in Tweaks Aug 22 13:32:06 Still needs a bit of tweaking but we'll get there :) Aug 22 13:33:56 I'm actually curious to see the code for it Aug 22 13:35:50 It's all on GitHub :), Aug 22 13:36:08 Everything we work on is out in the open in general :) Aug 22 13:36:13 luna-next-cardshell Aug 22 13:36:41 pull request #86 Aug 22 13:37:17 Herrie|Veer: ty Aug 22 13:37:56 There were some fixes today with #123, 124 and 125 but this was the main work for it :) Aug 22 13:38:32 yea, I mainly wanted to see the bulk of the code for it :) Aug 22 14:02:40 GodGinrai: it's still a first version though, we're not satisfied with the current drag'n'drop behavior, which is not intuitive Aug 22 14:02:57 Tofe: in what way? Aug 22 14:03:28 You need to hold for 0.8s or so before it enters the drag and drop mode. Aug 22 14:04:06 yes, but the unintuitive part is that you have to release the mouse pointer, and press again to drag Aug 22 14:04:25 I'd like to cut out that part Aug 22 14:05:23 Tofe: like, unclick and then click again? Aug 22 14:07:41 yes Aug 22 14:08:09 it's there only for technical reasons right now Aug 22 14:08:46 (the object we long press on is not the object we'd like to drag) Aug 22 14:09:36 Tofe: so the draggable object is a new object? Aug 22 14:11:07 no, it's the card itself; but what we do a longpress on is the card delegate in the list of cards Aug 22 14:11:37 so I reparent the card to the top when in "drag mode", so that we can drag it freely Aug 22 14:11:57 but, well, it's fishy Aug 22 14:12:36 so, what is the need for the card delegate? (sorry if some of these questions seem naive) Aug 22 14:19:14 I'm not sure yet; but what we'll need is the possibiilty to directly start the mouse action on the card itself, as soon as we see it's a longpress Aug 22 14:19:46 QML is less flexible that Qt for that sort of little hack Aug 22 14:20:09 I see Aug 22 14:20:26 thing is, if there was support for drag'n'drop within QML ListView natively, we wouldn't even need all of that Aug 22 14:20:33 but there isn't so... :) Aug 22 14:21:29 Tofe: add support and contribute upstream? :P Aug 22 14:23:36 GodGinrai: well, it's quite a lot of work :) But maybe they have plans for it, I'll ask Aug 22 17:47:53 hey morphis: is it possible to get LuneOS on a Pre-3? Aug 22 18:01:24 GodGinrai: puuh, I doubt you will get the needed drivers Aug 22 18:09:12 morphis: Were you able to replicate the non-booting N4 with recent images? Aug 22 18:09:23 Herrie: didn't tried yet Aug 22 18:09:30 Herrie: you're? Aug 22 18:09:40 DIdn't try latest latest Aug 22 18:09:49 But ones before didn't work Aug 22 18:09:52 Can try latest latest Aug 22 18:10:20 Wifi settings works on TP when using Affogato version, so it's something in either wifimanager or John's updates Aug 22 18:12:55 ok Aug 22 18:13:08 let me try to fix that one after535 Aug 22 18:13:54 ok Aug 22 18:13:58 Any ideas for 535? Aug 22 18:14:37 Should I have a go at 539? I could easily fix it by getting audio level from LNC and if already at max, don't send the call? Aug 22 18:14:54 Might not be the nicest, better to fix in back-end but would at least solve it for now? Aug 22 18:19:12 Herrie: 539 is something we should better fix on the backend side Aug 22 18:20:04 I thought so already ;) Aug 22 18:20:21 I'll leave that for you then, don't have means and environment for that :P Aug 22 18:20:59 Funny that browser on N4 and TP give different scores on html5test.com :S Aug 22 18:21:13 Ah no other screenshot was from QTCreator Aug 22 18:22:49 Actually WiFi might be backend Aug 22 18:23:03 Now also cannot connect with Affogato settings app on recent TP image **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Aug 23 02:59:58 2014