**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 04 02:59:58 2014 Sep 04 05:30:07 Darakian: Good :) Sep 04 06:00:35 Hey Sep 04 06:00:37 Anyone on? Sep 04 06:01:59 I am ;) Sep 04 06:02:32 hey Sep 04 06:02:37 just the guy I'm looking for Sep 04 06:02:45 so my system setting issue came back Sep 04 06:02:59 and I took a (terrible) video of it Sep 04 06:03:14 OK Sep 04 06:03:20 You're on N4 right/ Sep 04 06:03:21 ? Sep 04 06:03:26 yep Sep 04 06:03:28 Did you have Android 4.2.2 on it? Sep 04 06:03:30 Sept 1st version Sep 04 06:03:36 uhh...... I believe so Sep 04 06:03:38 I had someone y'day who had another Android version ;) Sep 04 06:03:40 cm 10.3 Sep 04 06:03:43 Because that's a requirement ;) Sep 04 06:03:57 I had sailfish EA2 on before luneos Sep 04 06:04:10 I think we require stock 4.2.2 not CM, but morphis can confirm Sep 04 06:04:15 That could cause funny issues ;) Sep 04 06:04:22 ok Sep 04 06:04:25 Because Settings app works fine for me on N4 in general Sep 04 06:04:35 I'm uploading the video now Sep 04 06:04:41 so, I'll shoot you a link Sep 04 06:04:43 We should upgrade to a newer Android sometime but had other priorities as you can imagine ;) Sep 04 06:04:52 but I'll do a reflash on friday Sep 04 06:04:56 ya, I can imagine Sep 04 06:05:02 Upgrading is relatively "minor" and we want to focus on getting other stuff developed Sep 04 06:05:18 I don't quite get how the android version matters though Sep 04 06:05:23 doesn't the flash overwrite it? Sep 04 06:05:30 No ;) Sep 04 06:05:35 oh Sep 04 06:05:37 well then Sep 04 06:05:37 We use the Android bits for drivers etc Sep 04 06:05:48 so the full android OS is still on there? Sep 04 06:05:49 So when they're different versions you might get unexpected results Sep 04 06:05:51 or just bits? Sep 04 06:06:03 I think everything except for boot,don't recall tbh Sep 04 06:06:07 morphis can tell you Sep 04 06:06:17 Not a device layout expert Sep 04 06:06:18 I'll chat him up about it some time Sep 04 06:06:35 I use my N4 only for LuneOS ;) Sep 04 06:06:39 Just for testing etc Sep 04 06:06:44 it's my dev device Sep 04 06:06:46 :) Sep 04 06:07:02 you should give sailfish a spin Sep 04 06:07:15 it's got a philosophy that I feel is quite similar to webos Sep 04 06:07:17 luneos Sep 04 06:07:18 whatever Sep 04 06:07:43 the multi tasking isn't as nice, but swiping in from the sides works quite well on large screens Sep 04 06:10:25 If we had the same amount of full time devs they have things would move a lot quicker here ;) Sep 04 06:10:29 Herrie: Video here https://app.box.com/s/8y8f3nwsljerhzgtxl39 Sep 04 06:10:32 ya Sep 04 06:10:44 it's not the speed that's worth looking at though Sep 04 06:10:53 the design choices are just different out the gate Sep 04 06:10:57 Yeah Sep 04 06:11:09 Well we're sibblings in many ways ;) Sep 04 06:11:17 same hybris right? Sep 04 06:11:18 And different in some ways too Sep 04 06:11:20 Yeah Sep 04 06:11:30 Lots of same system stack, Ubuntu guys as well Sep 04 06:11:47 so you do have people working on luneos full time ;) Sep 04 06:12:14 full time? Sep 04 06:12:26 We wished ;) Sep 04 06:12:33 jolla has a guy working on hybris Sep 04 06:13:06 if you're using hybris as well then you effectively have a him working for you as well Sep 04 06:13:37 We piggy back a lot on other efforts where it makes sense ;) Sep 04 06:13:47 which makes sense :) Sep 04 06:13:53 Reinventing the wheel is not effective as you can imagine, especially with a small team Sep 04 06:14:09 Ubuntu has a big team and they did some reinventing (with hybris as well) Sep 04 06:14:32 I tried to replicate your situation: Doesn't happen with me. I suspect it's your Android version ;) Sep 04 06:14:42 Opened Settings, Opened Fingerterm, works Sep 04 06:14:45 Can close cards Sep 04 06:14:58 This is with most recent build Sep 04 06:14:58 it's intermittent Sep 04 06:15:02 Sept 1 Sep 04 06:15:24 I can't say what's causing it, but I was playing with finger term and settings earlier today and all was well Sep 04 06:15:46 got home, wanted wifi and it popped up Sep 04 06:16:01 Settings loads some plugins at startup (connman etc for wifi). So when it gets stuck at loading there's an issue there Sep 04 06:16:28 are those plugins android based? Sep 04 06:16:51 In general we seem to have SOME issues with memory usage or stability, sometimes Luna Next just restarts. morphis & nizovn have been looking into this and seems to have found various causes already and are patching them 1 by 1 Sep 04 06:17:08 Not Android based, but they will call the Android binaries I assume Sep 04 06:17:34 ok, well I'll do a reflash and report back Sep 04 06:17:40 another question though Sep 04 06:18:12 are all the apps enyo based? If so is there a design guide or starter point of some sort? Sep 04 06:18:59 Most are, the email app is still Enyo 1, works fine in general but needs some layout tweaking on N4 Sep 04 06:19:05 Most others are Enyo 2 Sep 04 06:19:14 Phone + new browser I'm working on are pure QML Sep 04 06:19:32 qml? Sep 04 06:19:48 quick markup language? Sep 04 06:20:11 Yes since we're using QT 5.x we can also run QT/QML apps :) Sep 04 06:20:30 So Luna Next is written in QML instead of QT that was used in LunaSysMgr ;) Sep 04 06:20:59 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QML Sep 04 06:21:17 When you're familiar with Enyo & JS the layout is very similar and easy to understand ;) Sep 04 06:21:41 ok, so is there a jumping off point for writing apps then? Is one language preferred over another? Sep 04 06:23:14 We prefer Enyo 2 in general since they're webapps, but QML is fine too. Sep 04 06:23:24 Darakian_, Herrie: What you said about Android is not 100% right. LuneOS ships everything that it needs to run from Android. On some devices the Android version (N4) matters, because of the firmware versions that are installed. Sep 04 06:23:26 Enyo 2 has the advantage you can use it cross platform on pretty much anything Sep 04 06:23:45 so basically the Android system does not matter much to LuneOS, more the firmware on the chips inside the device Sep 04 06:24:07 ok Sep 04 06:24:28 So if you build an app that doesn't depend on anything system specific, you could run it on Jolla, FFOS, iOS, Android, WP, BB etc :) Sep 04 06:24:35 so the issues I was having should be luneos rather than android version related right Sep 04 06:24:37 ? Sep 04 06:24:52 noted Sep 04 06:25:12 might still be a firmware thing, settings talks to the wifi driver, if that crashes it also crashes, AFAIK. Sep 04 06:25:35 best would be to reflash Android 4.2.2 and then LuneOS. ;) Sep 04 06:25:39 will do Sep 04 06:25:50 thanks for the clarification though Sep 04 06:27:25 morphis, I'm trying to see if there is any downside to moving the rootfs from ext3fs to luneos-root in the LVM Sep 04 06:27:46 the issue I'm concerned about is anything that references that in an update Sep 04 06:29:50 such as a kernel update that modifies initramfs Sep 04 06:29:52 Darakian_: the best entry point for apps currently would be to get the latest enyo 2 onyx bootplate and install webos-lib into it. Sep 04 06:30:06 that should be a fair start point and in fact is what I always do. ;) Sep 04 06:30:19 webos-lib is on github? Sep 04 06:30:31 Yes Sep 04 06:30:35 cool Sep 04 06:30:36 jup: https://github.com/webOS-ports/webos-lib Sep 04 06:30:46 awesome Sep 04 06:30:48 thanks guys :) Sep 04 06:31:09 Darakian_, enjoy! Sep 04 06:31:26 hm.. btw... do we have webview working? Sep 04 06:31:27 I'll try, gotta get this thing to daily driver status first ;) Sep 04 06:31:48 don't curse contacts app too much. ^^ Sep 04 06:31:56 bit late for that >.> Sep 04 06:31:59 :p Sep 04 06:32:32 I kid, I've got my sim in a nokia n9 right now Sep 04 06:33:29 Darakian_, I hope we can get the basic apps working so folks can use this as a daily driver... Sep 04 06:33:52 hehe. It's not in daily driver status, yet.. but at least now one can see it going there eventually Sep 04 06:34:08 it's come a looooooong way from last time I played with it Sep 04 06:34:20 mad props to all involved Sep 04 06:34:47 Hey quick question Herrie. Is it OK if I write a for dummies tutorial on how to get LuneOS on Touchpad? Or should it remain how it is? Sep 04 06:35:19 rennnat, there might be some changes that would make that have to change abit Sep 04 06:36:08 oh, one thing I saw on the N4 install guide. The link to download was builds.webos-ports.org/someStuff/webos/.../the.img Sep 04 06:36:25 OK thanks ka6sox Sep 04 06:36:28 when the image is now in builds.org/.../luneos/.../img Sep 04 06:36:51 rennnat, I'm thinking in the next few days…but need to sort them out first…then after it would be nice. Sep 04 06:36:52 I was gonna change that on the wiki, but wanted to confirm it first Sep 04 06:37:51 Darakian_: link should point here: http://build.webos-ports.org/luneos-stable/images/ Sep 04 06:37:57 OK cool, I was thinking is we make the barrier to entry much easier we may get more support/help Sep 04 06:38:01 and then probably the right dir and file. ;) Sep 04 06:38:24 rennnat, I don't want you to spend a lot of time then have the way its done changed round. Sep 04 06:38:37 so this file for mako Sep 04 06:38:39 http://build.webos-ports.org/luneos-stable/images/mako/webos-ports-package-mako.zip Sep 04 06:38:40 ? Sep 04 06:38:49 right Sep 04 06:39:38 Ya, that's why I wanted to check before. I'll continue working on the certificate manager until it gets to a more static install method Sep 04 06:39:57 thats a needed tool Sep 04 06:41:02 so it looks like this needs the update Sep 04 06:41:03 http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/Template:Device_Install Sep 04 06:41:18 I can't make heads or tails of what shows up in the edit pane Sep 04 06:41:36 Certificate manager? Ya morphis set me up with it. Figuring out how to call the services correctly right kow Sep 04 06:42:04 But right now I've got to sleep. Night. Sep 04 06:42:51 Don't worry I'll update those wiki bits in an hour or so Sep 04 06:43:23 righto Sep 04 06:43:26 rennnat, nite Sep 04 06:44:17 I created the templates so know where to look ;) Sep 04 06:44:52 cool Sep 04 06:45:53 so when's the web address gonna change? :p Sep 04 06:55:04 and then there was silence Sep 04 06:55:47 well, g'night all Sep 04 06:55:58 thanks for fielding my questions :) Sep 04 06:55:59 Darakian_, nite Sep 04 06:58:29 okay the .eu shift has the duty…I'm off to sleep..night Sep 04 07:07:35 morning Sep 04 07:20:40 morning Tofe Sep 04 07:24:59 uhmm.. how can one disable the lock screen? Sep 04 07:25:15 on emulator you can't leave it, it seems... (not sure why?) Sep 04 07:25:44 Garfonso that might be a bug Sep 04 07:25:58 I have it on Luna Next restart on N4 Sep 04 07:26:09 yes, on emulator, too. Sep 04 07:26:09 Need to power off screen, power on and it works again Sep 04 07:26:41 Something for Tofe or morphis to fix, raised bug #575 for this Sep 04 07:26:42 hm.. ok.. then I need to find out how to emulate a power press using ssh. Sep 04 07:27:18 Not sure it's the same but sounds similar. I can drag the padlock across the screen but won't unlock Sep 04 07:29:48 morphis: on emulator journal is flooded with these messages: http://bpaste.net/raw/9b0b1ae80cc5 Sep 04 07:31:57 The unknown keyword I get on TP and N4 too, makes up 25% of my journal. Raised bug 517 for this Sep 04 07:35:20 Tofe: You know if a rescan is done every time Luna Next is started? Sep 04 07:35:25 For apps I mean? Sep 04 07:38:22 I don't think so, but not 100% sure. Sep 04 07:39:00 Garfonso: Can we install local/remote ipk's on LuneOS Sep 04 07:39:07 In Preware 2 i mean Sep 04 07:39:12 yes. Sep 04 07:39:36 dialog is not 100% adjusted to phones, I recognized lately... Sep 04 07:39:45 but you can even browse for ipks and install them. Sep 04 07:39:56 or from URL. Sep 04 07:40:39 only issue with URL is that if it is wrong, you won't really notice (I think) but it will look as if nothing happens.. also there is no download indicator, yet... a bit rough. Sep 04 07:40:43 OK :) Cool Sep 04 07:40:51 so I'd recommend installing from local storage. :) Sep 04 07:40:53 Adding a FAQ to WON for some things Sep 04 08:04:20 Herrie|Veer: I don't think LunaNext triggers any app rescan Sep 04 08:05:14 Might be good to add it when it's started? Sep 04 08:08:18 but, isn't it triggered when LunaSysMgr is started ? Sep 04 08:10:10 Garfonso: service.call("luna://com.palm.display/control/setLockStatus", Sep 04 08:10:34 That converted to luna-send should unlock your screen Sep 04 08:10:55 Tofe: I don't think LunaSysMgr is restarted when Luna Next is? Sep 04 08:25:48 Herrie|Veer: no, indeed Sep 04 08:26:02 maybe we could provide an app-side way to trigger a rescan Sep 04 08:26:26 why do you need to trigger the rescan? Sep 04 08:26:39 Herrie|Veer: yes, why ? Sep 04 08:28:21 When manually copying over stuff :P, Sep 04 08:28:34 Which I tend to do sometimes ;) Sep 04 08:29:01 if you copy ipks and install them with preware, you don't have that issue ;) Sep 04 08:29:04 Herrie|Veer: btw is update supposed to work already, got 404 last night Sep 04 08:29:23 me, too... but not really sure why. Sep 04 08:29:34 ktk: Garfonso is the update man ;) Sep 04 08:29:56 We're reworking it a bit in general so you can update to newer nightlies etc Sep 04 08:29:58 ktk: is this on the stable image? Sep 04 08:30:05 Garfonso: yes the one of august 10th Sep 04 08:30:23 The update in the stable image would be only working to another stable image currently Sep 04 08:30:29 ah ok Sep 04 08:31:09 yes, but you should not get a 404 anyway... Sep 04 08:31:32 I saw this with an older stable image, but thought it was because it was older.. hm Sep 04 08:32:05 Garfonso: Isn't this because of the change webos-ports to luneos? Sep 04 08:32:16 Dirs are symlinked but files maybe not? Sep 04 08:33:24 hm.. url is a bit nonsene. Also in testing image: http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports-staging/latest/manifest.json Sep 04 08:36:55 hm.. ok.. src_rev is quite old, still.. hopefully notification changes will be applied soon so that the new version of the update service can be included Sep 04 08:40:29 Tofe: chop chop LOL :P Sep 04 08:40:39 if you want to have working updates, you can change the file /usr/palm/services/org.webosports.service.update/javascript/config.js and change the url in the fourth line to http://build.webos-ports.org/luneos-stable/manifest.json Sep 04 08:44:24 ok Sep 04 08:44:35 Garfonso: you will fix it in the new images I suppose Sep 04 08:45:20 fix is already queued in. Sep 04 08:45:30 great Sep 04 08:45:45 Garfonso: looks like we have to recreate the URL for the time until the next update is applied Sep 04 08:46:00 morphis: morning Sep 04 08:46:13 morning btw. :) Sep 04 08:46:35 Any reason we don't seem to have luna-universalsearchmgr ? Sep 04 08:46:55 This takes care of search engines and stuff for Just Type and Browser ;) Sep 04 08:47:16 afaik we have Sep 04 08:47:23 another btw, is there a reason the keyboard is completely different on LuneOS? Sep 04 08:47:32 I like the webos one more :) Sep 04 08:47:49 it is a completely different application that handles kb. :) Sep 04 08:47:55 feel free to improve it. ^^ Sep 04 08:48:03 ktk: EFIGS on Open webOS is QT 4.8 and we're on 5.2 currently ;) Sep 04 08:48:06 ok :D Sep 04 08:48:39 Herrie|Veer: https://github.com/openwebos/luna-universalsearchmgr Sep 04 08:48:58 So we're using Maliit instead it's also more international compared to EFIGS one which only supports English, French, Italian, German and Spanish Sep 04 08:49:23 Maliit has some other advantages as well, but agree keyboard needs some TLC Sep 04 08:49:29 morphis: saw that Sep 04 08:49:37 But seems I cannot use the api Sep 04 08:49:52 Tried luna-end for the various endpoints but no luck? Sep 04 08:49:54 do you checked if the service is installed? Sep 04 08:50:23 it should Sep 04 08:50:24 bash-4.3# opkg list | grep univer Sep 04 08:50:24 luna-universalsearchmgr - 2.0.0-1+ow+gitr0+718edcb850-r0.13 Sep 04 08:50:29 I have no clue how to do that :P Sep 04 08:50:39 ktk: I think this controls how our keyboard looks: https://github.com/webOS-ports/maliit-plugins/tree/tofe/ubuntu-keyboard/qml Sep 04 08:50:56 Or maybe I'm doing stuff wrong, wouldn't be the first time Sep 04 08:51:57 I should be able to do a simple luna-send n -1 luna://com.palm.universalsearch/getUniversalSearchList ? Sep 04 08:52:29 I can second that this is not working... Sep 04 08:53:47 -n 1 that should be :P Sep 04 08:55:42 Herrie|Veer: take https://github.com/webOS-ports/webos-systemd-services/blob/master/LunaUniversalSearchMgr.service Sep 04 08:55:58 adb push LunaUniversalSearchMgr.service /lib/systemd/system/ Sep 04 08:56:07 adb shell systemctl enable LunaUniversalSearchMgr.service Sep 04 08:56:11 adb reboot Sep 04 08:56:14 then it should work Sep 04 08:57:25 Ah ok, let me try. You gonna fix for future build when OK? Sep 04 08:59:15 hm.. still not working on emulator. Sep 04 08:59:16 right Sep 04 08:59:24 Garfonso: the searchmgr? Sep 04 08:59:32 yes Sep 04 08:59:42 with the new service file? Sep 04 09:00:06 yes and reboot Sep 04 09:00:23 Works here on device Sep 04 09:00:40 Need to add params '{}' Sep 04 09:01:20 strange. Can't see that it gets started Sep 04 09:04:20 if I run the binary manually it works.. maybe I messed up the file somehow. Sep 04 09:08:06 can I see if something is wrong with the file? Don't know much about systemd. Sep 04 09:13:18 Garfonso: yes, it's the QML UI of the keyboard Sep 04 09:14:00 Garfonso: though the correct URL is https://github.com/webOS-ports/webos-keyboard Sep 04 09:14:06 morphis: systemctl start LunaUniversalSearchMgr did start it.. not sure why it does not come up after reboot..? Sep 04 09:14:54 Garfonso: did you miss the systemctl enable call? Sep 04 09:15:57 uh.. probably yes. ;) Sep 04 09:16:05 Tofe: thanks :) Sep 04 09:29:29 morphis: ok, is working.. my fault. Sorry. Sep 04 10:20:27 On the UniversalSearchList: it currently doesn't specifically cater for secure searches. How do we want to deal with this? I can add an additional option called Google (secure) but I think it would be better to have a field for secureURL for example? Sep 04 10:20:41 Just like we have suggestURL Sep 04 10:43:27 Hi... do we need to have CM installed for installing LunaOS ? Sep 04 10:44:24 maiyaseen: For the Touchpad not. For the N4 we require Android 4.2.2 due to firmware (for wifi for example) Sep 04 10:45:11 ohh okay... installing LunaOS, is pretty much same as instlling SailFIsh OS... Sep 04 10:45:34 installed CM 4.2.2, then on top install LunaOS... right? Sep 04 11:07:18 mailyaseen: yeah but it must not be cm 4.2.2 which is installed before Sep 04 11:07:30 can be also any other 4.2.2 based android rom Sep 04 11:07:36 but must me 4.2.2 based Sep 04 11:12:04 Garfonso: I have a fix pending for the emulator log flooding Sep 04 11:12:13 Garfonso: it simply forbids suspend on the emulator Sep 04 11:22:58 +morphis: does is spport with multirom? in Nexus 4? Sep 04 11:24:15 Hi all. Sep 04 11:24:45 is there a luneOs wishlist? Sep 04 11:31:42 hi cage1? Sep 04 11:32:03 stuart_: uhm... if you have a wish, just grab the code and implement it? ;) Sep 04 11:44:28 stuart_: otherwise you can open a thread in the webosnation forum Sep 04 11:44:38 or create a feature request in our bug tracker at issues.webos-ports.org Sep 04 11:45:48 Guys, thank you for releasing the LuneOS! I'm big fan of PalmOS and WebOS, and I have palm pre 2, HP pre 3 and HP Touchpad. Now, I've just installed the LuneOS on a LG Nexus 4 Sep 04 11:46:15 because I don't have Wi-Fi, I found out that I need to restart (said on twitter) Sep 04 11:46:21 but I can't find how to restart Sep 04 11:47:15 a power menu should come up if you keep the power button pressed for some seconds Sep 04 11:47:21 just as in old webos. Sep 04 11:48:23 thank you! Another question: can you point me to an article how can I have cmd access to the device from my linux box Sep 04 11:48:37 you use adb for that. Sep 04 11:48:58 i.e. adb shell gives you a shell on device Sep 04 11:51:07 ok, thanks, I'm familiar with adb Sep 04 11:51:42 Garfonso: morphis: thanks Sep 04 11:51:44 Garfonso: we should create a wiki page for those things ... Sep 04 11:59:57 bacl Sep 04 12:00:01 back Sep 04 12:15:25 hi there! Sep 04 12:16:14 anyone familiar with installing the sept. 3rd version of luneos on a galaxy nexus? Sep 04 12:17:48 i just flased it one my phone but it doesn't start. Sep 04 12:18:17 After several restarts I still don't have Wi-Fi networks found Sep 04 12:18:54 i tried an older version back in june and it worked perfectly fine. Sep 04 12:19:35 anything else i can (have to) do? i wiped all partitions already. Sep 04 12:21:40 BlueRacer: GNex is not working with the testing builds. That is why we are looking for a new maintainer. Sep 04 12:22:08 can i used the latest stable? Sep 04 12:22:15 issue is that we switched open embedded version from dora (old, used in the stable builds) to daisy (new, used in the testing builds) Sep 04 12:22:22 latest stable should work. Sep 04 12:23:03 but unless we find somebody to maintain GNex, that is the last image that will boot on the GNex for the time being. Sep 04 12:23:22 which is sad... but those issues take a lot of time we can not always bring up. Sep 04 12:24:28 the latest stable dates aug, 10th? Sep 04 12:25:26 BlueRacer: yes Sep 04 12:25:43 BlueRacer, Garfonso: afaik Tofe started to look into the problem we have on the gnexus Sep 04 12:26:49 Wi-Fi and Sound changes are not kept after I close Settings Sep 04 12:27:17 do you have any documentation on what has to be done for the gnex version? maybe i can help... Sep 04 12:28:06 * Garfonso does not have a clue about such things, sadly... Sep 04 12:29:07 i'll try the latest stable and set up my system so that i can recompile everything from scratch. did this back in june sucessfully. Sep 04 12:35:18 BlueRacer: what Tofe tried is adding the nofail option in /etc/fstab for the mmcblk0p* partitions Sep 04 12:35:35 with that and after waiting for a longer time he got in with adb Sep 04 12:36:17 BlueRacer: similar to this one: https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-smartphone/commit/54a60bc7251cffcf60a61f941fad7a33f10368af Sep 04 12:41:22 Back Sep 04 12:41:45 morphis: Saw my Q re: secure search and approach? Sep 04 12:49:28 morphis: installed the latest stable and it starts up. things i tried so far seem to be working nicely. is the email client supposed to work? Sep 04 12:50:05 yes... at least a bit. Sep 04 12:50:13 when i "sign in" in the creation of a new account nothing happens for a longer time and then i get an error message. Sep 04 12:50:30 error code 990 Sep 04 12:56:14 error code 990 is mentioned once here: http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/290470-godaddy-email-touchpad.html Sep 04 12:56:43 but I can't really see a solution there... I'd say: try again and double check everything... Sep 04 12:56:59 but maybe something is broken. Can you have a look in the logs? Sep 04 12:59:53 i'm very impressed of your work! browser and everything seems to be working fine. handling like on my pre3 and touchpad. Sep 04 13:00:07 right... im going to get my TP out and charge that baby up Sep 04 13:00:25 the whole system reacts a bit slow though. is that normal or a problem on my seid? Sep 04 13:00:31 BlueRacer: New browser will be nicer, old one is buggy :P Sep 04 13:00:31 opps... side Sep 04 13:02:49 especialy when typing I get that impression, too. Sep 04 13:07:46 a reboot helped.... now it's working faster again... Sep 04 13:13:48 "device restart" doesn't work. neither does "shut down". both shut down the system but it cannot be powered on again w/o taking the battery out first. Sep 04 13:14:33 I figured out my problem - I haven't used android 4.2.2 but 4.4.4 Sep 04 13:15:00 BlueRacer: This is fixed in Daisy/nightly, but that doesn't boot on Nexus Sep 04 13:16:25 VooDo0: Yes we rely on firmwares in 4.2.2 currently for N4 to work Sep 04 13:19:08 No Cyrillic support in the browser Sep 04 13:19:59 VooDo0: Are you testing stable or testing build? Sep 04 13:20:22 Which language you're after? Russian? Bulgarian? or ... ? Sep 04 13:26:29 which recent phones will be supported in the future? i got a gnex especially for webos. the n4 is a bit dated too and not easy to find/buy. so i'd rather not get that. any more recent device in the queue? Sep 04 13:27:37 BlueRacer: Theoretically any phone with Android/CM should work, problem is manpower to port Sep 04 13:28:07 You're free to get a N6, M8, 1+1 and try to port Sep 04 13:28:20 I'm sure morphis would gladly help with stuff Sep 04 13:28:31 We have a guide on wiki on how to start Sep 04 13:29:37 Problem is that morphis was porting to 5 targets and maintaining (N, N7, N4, TP + VBox). This takes lots of his time which is better spent developing system/features Sep 04 13:30:04 When we have someone taking care of a port for a device, we're happy to support that and welcome it :) Sep 04 13:30:44 so probably the most sensible thing is if you look into GNex. ;) Sep 04 13:31:00 if you manage to find time & know a bit about this stuff. Sep 04 13:32:50 Herrie|Veer: I'm testing a stable build and I'm referring Bulgarian Sep 04 13:34:09 We currently don't have language switch enabled on keyboard yet, it's something that our framework does provide for, but we didn't have time to implement/enable yet Sep 04 13:34:16 ok.... i will try to compile the aug 10th version for the gnex from scratch as i know that it is working. then i'll look into the source code to get familiar with it. afterwards i'll TRY tro see if i can find the problem in the daisy/nightly on the gnex. Sep 04 13:34:33 Herrie|Veer: I'm trying to display a bulgarian web page in the browser Sep 04 13:34:39 It's on the to-do list with further improvements to the virtual keyboard Sep 04 13:34:51 OK which one? Let me try on my nightly Sep 04 13:34:55 dir.bg Sep 04 13:36:22 Also in new browser doesn't work... I suspect it's either font or webkit setting problem Sep 04 13:36:29 morphis might have an idea? Sep 04 13:45:27 VooDo0, Herrie|Veer: can you send me a screenshot? Sep 04 13:46:02 Herrie|Veer: what do you mean with "secureUrl"? Sep 04 13:48:59 morphis: It basically doesn't render any text in cyrillic so I suspect font or setting, cannot make screenshot with TP... Sep 04 13:49:17 Currently search providers are http, not https Sep 04 13:49:37 Herrie|Veer: so your point was changing them to https? Sep 04 13:49:40 Some search providers also offer https search (google, duckduckgo etc) Sep 04 13:50:07 morphis: Should work or have both in DB and only use secure when we enable in settings somewhere Sep 04 13:50:23 I would say use https where possible Sep 04 13:50:40 "private browsing" patch in legacy doesn't create history and uses secure Sep 04 13:51:11 I would say we use https by default unless not possible Sep 04 13:51:27 I don't see any reason why we should use not-secured one by default Sep 04 13:51:35 OK that would save duplicate entries or db8 changes :) Sep 04 13:51:50 right Sep 04 13:51:56 non secure was on 2.x and 3.x Sep 04 13:52:09 I'm happy to make them secure ;) Sep 04 13:54:01 where are the search providers stored? Sep 04 13:54:24 ah directly in the searchmgr Sep 04 13:54:38 Yup :) Sep 04 13:54:44 Herrie|Veer: btw. feel free to add alternate search engines Sep 04 13:54:51 Hence my question this morning Sep 04 13:54:58 by default Sep 04 13:55:03 but not too much Sep 04 13:55:08 maybe duckduckgo Sep 04 13:55:26 Had them hardcoded for Tweaks but when in app settings can have them pull from searchmgr Sep 04 13:55:52 DuckDuckGo, Google, Yahoo, Bing, Wiki should cover most I guess Sep 04 13:56:07 Herrie|Veer: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-universalsearchmgr but please create a webOS-ports/master branch Sep 04 13:56:22 Tweaks doesn't allow pulling dynamically afaik Sep 04 13:56:55 Can you create the branch for me? Cannot do that in web interface... Sep 04 14:00:29 ok Sep 04 14:01:04 Herrie|Veer: done Sep 04 14:01:59 Thnx Sep 04 14:09:28 Do you know if encrypted.google.com is the same as their https one? Sep 04 14:10:18