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Sep 10 04:52:16 <Herrie|Laptop> morning
Sep 10 04:52:20 <Herrie|Laptop> mcgeek87: I am now ;)
Sep 10 07:58:42 <Tofe> morning
Sep 10 07:59:26 <morphis> Tofe: morning
Sep 10 08:01:08 <Tofe> morphis: I'm feeling that there should be something to modify in LSM for the notifications too, isn't it ?
Sep 10 08:01:36 <morphis> LunaSysMgr is what you mean?
Sep 10 08:01:41 <Tofe> yes
Sep 10 08:02:47 <Tofe> I'm not sure yet, I've just modified the cardshell and luna-next for now, and didn't do any test yet
Sep 10 08:03:28 <Tofe> (current status is pushed, though it's very likely that is doesn't even compile)
Sep 10 08:04:05 <morphis> Tofe: I think that should be enough
Sep 10 08:50:52 <Tofe> ok, then I'll fix the compilation and begin my tests
Sep 10 14:02:24 <OldDroid> hey :)
Sep 10 14:02:51 <OldDroid> umm, any source builder or dev here?
Sep 10 14:03:18 <OldDroid> need some infos about current source
Sep 10 14:06:56 <GodGinrai> OldDroid: just ask, and someone will answer when they see your message
Sep 10 14:07:12 <OldDroid> okay dokay
Sep 10 14:07:27 <OldDroid> soo,is the wob-11.0 branch ready?
Sep 10 14:08:26 <OldDroid> or i still need to build with outdated 10.1 branch?
Sep 10 14:09:53 <OldDroid> that q is for wob-11.0: since google updated to 4.4.4 some things have been changed, could i change the revision versions in the manifest to 4.4.4?
Sep 10 14:10:08 <OldDroid> (btw, want to develop lunaos for n5 ;-) )
Sep 10 14:10:14 <OldDroid> thats why im asking about kitkat
Sep 10 14:12:59 <Herrie|Veer> morphis is the one to answer that question ;)
Sep 10 14:13:20 <Herrie|Veer> I know we use CM 11.0 for the Touchpad but we're still on 10.1 for the N4
Sep 10 14:14:55 <Herrie|Veer> Not sure what's exactly the reason for that but I'm sure morphis can elaborate. I think CM 11 wasn't available when port started and since then morphis was too busy with other things :P
Sep 10 14:15:08 <OldDroid> yep, the problem is that i don'T hae any vendor libs for 4.2.2 for n5, since it has been released with 4.4
Sep 10 14:15:41 <Herrie|Veer> We'd welcome a N5 port of course and I'm sure morphis is happy to assist and answer questions where needed
Sep 10 14:16:49 <OldDroid> okay ;-)
Sep 10 14:17:08 <OldDroid> its an very interesting project for me :P
Sep 10 14:17:34 <OldDroid> looks promising
Sep 10 14:17:48 <OldDroid> and you may need a few more device mentainers ^^
Sep 10 14:17:57 <Herrie|Veer> The TP uses CM 11 as well ;)
Sep 10 14:18:07 <Herrie|Veer> So maybe you can look at that one when needed
Sep 10 14:18:19 <Herrie|Veer> morphis should be around, saw him a little while back
Sep 10 14:18:23 <OldDroid> TP?
Sep 10 14:18:57 <OldDroid> ahh ok
Sep 10 14:19:06 <Herrie|Veer> Touchpad aka Tenderloin
Sep 10 14:19:36 <Herrie|Veer> We have some porting instructions on the wiki but my kernel etc knowledge is too limited to help with anything there :P
Sep 10 14:20:42 <OldDroid> naah, doesn't seem to go too deep into matter ^^
Sep 10 14:21:04 <OldDroid> as the google devices are still using stock kernel from cm
Sep 10 14:23:17 <Tofe> For the TP, it was a bit of a struggling for morphis to get libhybris working well; indeed, the CM11 for the TP was a bit hacky, and there were some headers that didn't match well
Sep 10 14:24:11 <Tofe> I think it should be easier for the N5, hopefully, but it will still require some convergence work
Sep 10 14:24:30 <morphis> OldDroid: generally there is no problem using wop-11.0
Sep 10 14:24:43 <morphis> I just didn't had the time to update n4, ...
Sep 10 14:24:55 <OldDroid> it'S no problem for me ;-)
Sep 10 14:25:02 <OldDroid> got both devices
Sep 10 14:25:14 <morphis> OldDroid: but would be nice to see someone doing a N5 port
Sep 10 14:25:54 <OldDroid> its a nteresting proj so why not ^^
Sep 10 14:25:56 <morphis> OldDroid: you already started to build wop-11.0?
Sep 10 14:26:08 <OldDroid> nope
Sep 10 14:26:14 <morphis> ok
Sep 10 14:26:17 <OldDroid> still setting up my build env
Sep 10 14:26:27 <OldDroid> and getting source
Sep 10 14:27:15 <OldDroid> pc hw upgrade was too heavy to keep my old win installation ^^
Sep 10 14:29:42 <OldDroid> any special ram limitations for building?
Sep 10 14:36:17 <Tofe> OldDroid: I'm using 4Gb + 4Gb swap, and when compiling QtWebkit it uses about 1Gb of swap
Sep 10 14:36:27 <Tofe> (otherwise no swap is used)
Sep 10 14:36:37 <OldDroid> ok, so 16gb are enough ...
Sep 10 14:36:48 <Tofe> I think so yes !
Sep 10 14:37:28 <Tofe> You'll need about 40-50Gb of hard disk space
Sep 10 14:52:06 <ka6sox> morning nizovn
Sep 10 14:54:37 <nizovn> morning
Sep 10 15:00:56 <morphis> OldDroid: how familiar are you with OpenEmbedded?
Sep 10 15:52:46 <morphis> nizovn: morning
Sep 10 15:52:50 <morphis> nizovn: you saw my comment on sleepd?
Sep 10 15:54:36 <nizovn> morphis: yes, agree, i just wanted to be sure that it won't broke anything for other devices.
Sep 10 15:54:44 <morphis> ok
Sep 10 15:54:50 <morphis> nizovn: I verified this on the N4 today
Sep 10 15:55:10 <morphis> nizovn: and about moving things to luna-sysmgr-common: don't move MemoryMonitor.cpp
Sep 10 15:55:16 <morphis> keep it in luna-appmanager only
Sep 10 15:55:51 <morphis> nizovn: ah and Main.cpp need to stay also :)
Sep 10 15:56:01 <nizovn> morphis: ok:) what you have verified? suggestion in comment?
Sep 10 15:56:08 <morphis> yes
Sep 10 15:57:03 <nizovn> morphis: why then you not pushed it:)
Sep 10 15:57:15 <morphis> nizovn: was distracted
Sep 10 15:57:20 <morphis> and ran out of time
Sep 10 15:57:27 <nizovn> ok
Sep 10 16:15:26 <Garfonso> regarding: http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/599 that is already in service and works for me (on my new shiny nexus 4 ^^)
Sep 10 16:16:13 <Garfonso> issue might be that testing version reports update, which is .. wrong? At least platform version 23 is wrong.
Sep 10 16:18:57 <morphis> Garfonso: yeah! you got one finally :)
Sep 10 16:21:25 <Garfonso> morphis: should I display a message if we are on testing tree?
Sep 10 16:21:44 <Garfonso> Can the system be updated on testing tree by running the update scripts?
Sep 10 16:22:35 <morphis> Garfonso: it can but it is supposed to break
Sep 10 16:22:47 <morphis> better to prevent people from doing so
Sep 10 16:23:01 <Garfonso> ok.
Sep 10 16:23:02 <morphis> Garfonso: it would be good if you show a message that there is no internet connection
Sep 10 16:23:50 <Garfonso> morphis: it says for me "Could not check for updates: Not online, can't check for updates."
Sep 10 16:25:13 <Garfonso> morphis: the stable tree will have "stable" in the manifest? Or something else? So I can test for that string.
Sep 10 16:25:21 <morphis> Garfonso: ah great!
Sep 10 16:25:31 <morphis> Garfonso: yeah it has stable
Sep 10 17:15:47 <Garfonso> is it possible to ssh into the devices?
Sep 10 17:17:07 <nizovn> Gafronse: over wifi sure
Sep 10 17:17:18 <nizovn> Garfonso:
Sep 10 17:18:04 <Garfonso> over wifi? That'd be great. :)
Sep 10 17:24:45 <morphis> Garfonso: :)
Sep 10 17:44:22 <morphis> ok
Sep 10 17:48:29 <morphis> nizovn: you had time to do a PR for sleepd?
Sep 10 17:49:45 <OldDroid> morphis?
Sep 10 17:49:55 <OldDroid> programming language of openembedded
Sep 10 17:49:57 <OldDroid> ???
Sep 10 17:52:49 <morphis> OldDroid: bash, python
Sep 10 17:53:13 <OldDroid> peww, my python is a bit outdated, but bash is ok
Sep 10 17:53:30 <morphis> OldDroid: mainly you don't need to program that much
Sep 10 17:53:33 <morphis> just adjusting some variables
Sep 10 17:53:41 <OldDroid> tell me more ^^
Sep 10 17:54:04 <OldDroid> what exactly i need to do?
Sep 10 17:56:13 <morphis> OldDroid: can you while doing the port extend the porting guide?
Sep 10 17:56:39 <OldDroid> umm yep :)
Sep 10 17:57:01 <OldDroid> thats why i have 2 displays ;-)
Sep 10 17:57:27 <morphis> good
Sep 10 17:57:43 <morphis> then as the porting guide says: first get the wop-11.0 branch building for your device
Sep 10 17:59:17 <morphis> we have packages for those things for all other devices at http://build.webos-ports.org/cm-wop-11.0/ and http://build.webos-ports.org/cm-wop-10.1/
Sep 10 17:59:26 <morphis> those are then later backed into the real images
Sep 10 18:00:57 <morphis> only when that is done go over to the next step
Sep 10 18:01:28 <morphis> ah you have to make sure you put the binaries for your device into the build tree
Sep 10 18:02:35 <morphis> all: new nightly builds are triggered now with a bunch of updates
Sep 10 18:02:45 <morphis> Herrie, Herrie|Veer: includes the latest browser
Sep 10 18:02:52 <morphis> Garfonso: includes the latest update service
Sep 10 18:04:09 <OldDroid> hey morphis ^^, im not a starter anymore :D you could even check my irc nickname on google ^^
Sep 10 18:05:29 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: thnx, not sure you included my PR from today?
Sep 10 18:05:39 <Herrie|Veer> Got another one coming soon :P
Sep 10 18:05:54 <Herrie|Veer> Garfonso helped me with the browser history/bookmarks :)
Sep 10 18:06:49 <Garfonso> morphis: great. :) I'd also have some stuff for c+dav service that we should include in next release
Sep 10 18:07:22 <Garfonso> like I allowed to ignore certificate errors on a per-account basis.. so I can use my selfsigned cert easily until we have some way to install certificates.
Sep 10 18:08:20 <OldDroid> server side?
Sep 10 18:09:42 <Garfonso> no, client side
Sep 10 18:16:44 <ka6sox> morphis, I'm thinking about bringing moorea into the build fold so we can double our build capacity for LuneOS images
Sep 10 18:16:52 <ka6sox> Bonaire is currently the one right now?
Sep 10 18:17:41 <ka6sox> Aruba seems busy with OE-world builds :)
Sep 10 18:24:26 <GodGinrai> Jamaica
Sep 10 18:24:31 <GodGinrai> Ooh I wanna take ya
Sep 10 18:24:34 <GodGinrai> <.<
Sep 10 18:28:18 <ka6sox> GodGinrai, when I was naming the servers I was in a place where all I wanted to do was escape to a tropical Island...
Sep 10 18:28:20 <ka6sox> can you tell?
Sep 10 18:28:39 <GodGinrai> lol
Sep 10 18:30:20 <nizovn> morphis: if your question is actual, then yes.
Sep 10 18:30:57 <nizovn> ah saw it :)
Sep 10 20:48:13 <nizovn> morphis: header files also seems need to be removed from appmanager: PtrArray.h, CpuAffinity.h
Sep 10 20:48:13 <nizovn> from appmanager and sysmgr: AnimationEquation.h, CircularBuffer.h, SharedGlobalProperties.h, AnimationSettings.h
Sep 10 20:48:13 <nizovn> DeviceInfo.h seems need to be moved to sysmgr-common
Sep 10 20:48:13 <nizovn> as for MemoryMonitor.{h,cpp} - they used in sysmgr: Main.cpp(without ->start() though), SystemService.cpp
Sep 10 20:48:13 <nizovn> also some files in sysmgr-common have old hp license, but in sysmgr and appmanager - newer
Sep 10 20:48:15 <nizovn> and there are two typos - cpp files in both header and source sections
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