**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 18 03:00:00 2014 Sep 18 03:00:31 that should work Sep 18 03:00:35 evening thrrgilag Sep 18 03:00:51 good evening Sep 18 03:07:22 my password is all caps... Sep 18 03:07:28 that is not an issues is it? Sep 18 03:08:05 also why does the battery icon show that it is charging but I am not connect to the USB cable? Sep 18 03:28:34 does the phone and text messaging work with LuneOs? Sep 18 03:33:32 has anyone been spending any time with the emulator? Sep 18 03:37:07 When I power down the phone (Nexus 4) it looks like it is still on the. The screen is not enitely black. Sep 18 03:37:12 is this normal? Sep 18 03:37:38 how long does it take to shut down? Sep 18 03:44:44 hmmm I cant seem to full power down the unit. Maybe I should reinstall it as maybe I rebooted too soon Sep 18 03:44:59 I guess that will be tomorrows project Sep 18 03:45:24 I do not even know how to get to the battery on the NExus 4 Sep 18 03:46:27 wappmanb, to my knowledge it's not user accessible. well not without tools i imagine Sep 18 03:49:32 yeah I awatching the video and it took the guy 2 minutes with tools to get the back cover off! Sep 18 03:49:51 wappmanb, i suspect you just need to hold the powerbutton down to force the power off fully if it's not shutting off Sep 18 03:50:17 oh the screen finally went black Sep 18 03:51:20 I selected shut down in LuneOS and the screen went blank but you could still see that there was power to the screen,... Sep 18 03:51:48 after ~5 minutes the screen is now black so I am guessing that it is off now Sep 18 03:52:07 i would imagine so at this point Sep 18 04:14:03 i think i'm about to do something crazy and attempt a device port Sep 18 05:06:27 thrrgilag, \o/ Sep 18 05:09:20 ka6sox, don't get too excited yet. this is my first stab at something like this so i don't know how well it'll go Sep 18 05:11:18 the screenshot Herrie sent me of my auth dialog on his N4 is bugging the crap out of me Sep 18 05:11:37 this is my way of trying to avoid buying an N4 Sep 18 05:15:27 do I want to ask what you want to port to? :) Sep 18 05:17:00 haven't settled for sure yet, i've got a few android devices floating around my office. The Nexus 5 may be my best shot. Sep 18 05:17:22 Also have a Rezound and dinc2 but those may be more problematic I suspect Sep 18 05:17:23 interesting choice…go for it! Sep 18 05:54:12 thrrgilag I'll have a look into the dialog as well ;) Sep 18 05:55:34 Herrie, cool thanks Sep 18 05:59:56 turning in for the night, i'll be back in the morning to break more things. Sep 18 06:03:55 I fixed the launch params as well ;) Sep 18 06:04:03 Browser requires a http(s) prefix ;) Sep 18 06:21:34 thrrgilag: N5 is what olddroid tries to port to, too. Sep 18 06:22:02 maybe you can work together. Or you just wait for him to come up with something, he seems to be competent. ;) Sep 18 06:22:32 on the other hand: everything that has a CyanogenMod for them *should* be a possible target. Sep 18 06:23:50 Alan_Morford, ka6sox: Wifi issues on N4 can also happen if they were flashed to something else than Android 4.2.2 before. In that case it would be necessary to flash 4.2.2 on it first and then install LuneOS again. Sep 18 06:24:08 maybe that's the issue wappmanb is facing. Sep 18 06:29:29 morning, btw ;) Sep 18 06:33:29 Morphis: Currently, know very little about the messaging app, I'm afraid. Just that it uses libpurple to talk the various messaging protocols Sep 18 06:34:17 If you can point me to the direction of the source and give a rundown of how the application is designed, that might help me get up to speed quicker Sep 18 06:51:12 the app itself or the synergy connectors? Sep 18 06:53:13 Synergy connectors is where I wanted to help first (get more protocols supported), but it would be nice to learn a bit about the app as well Sep 18 06:54:06 hm.. ok. In principle most of synergy works using db8. Sep 18 06:54:43 do you have a legacy webos device? If so you can look into different dbs using impostah. Sep 18 06:55:38 Important from the connector point of view should be com.palm.message:1. Basically you'd derive your own kind from that and db8 magically merges your messages into the com.palm.message:1 db and chatthreader and messaging app should be getting your messages already Sep 18 06:55:39 I've a Touchpad. Sep 18 06:56:49 (used to have a Pre3, but broke it :-p) Sep 18 06:56:56 did you have a look at https://github.com/ericblade/webos-messaging-connector ? This is like a "base" messaging connector (only in node.js not using libpurple.. but it's what you need to talk to on the webos side) Sep 18 06:57:15 Not yet. Will have a look Sep 18 06:57:32 that probably is a good place to start and look. :) Sep 18 06:57:54 did you work with synergy connectors in the past? Sep 18 07:00:20 No. This will be the first Sep 18 07:01:42 So currently, synergy connectors that use C/C++ libraries like libpurple and telepathy do not exist? Sep 18 07:03:12 Either we create that wrapper or implement every protocol with node.js? Sep 18 07:08:43 I don't really know about that. On legacy only node.js was supported. Sep 18 07:09:05 maybe there exists already a wrapper for libpurple and node.js? Sep 18 07:09:29 also there was the libpurble synergy connector on legacy... but that did not get opensources, AFAIK. Sep 18 07:09:57 on the other hand it should be possible to do all this in C++ Sep 18 07:12:36 basically the synergy connectors are quite independent. What you need is a service that listens on the ls2bus and you need to write stuff into db8, also using ls2 bus Sep 18 07:13:10 if you look into the accounts-template file ( like this https://github.com/ericblade/webos-messaging-connector/blob/master/accounts/account-template.json ) you'll see where all that get's configured. Sep 18 07:14:34 maybe this is of interest, too: http://git.webos-internals.org/applications/messaging-plugins/tree/3.0/MessagingPlugins-Dist Sep 18 07:25:23 morphis: On the https everywhere, happy to have a look into that sometime. Seems that it are a ton of XML files (10000+) with rewriting rules. Might good to store these in DB8 somewhere and check an url against that before loading it and rewrite as https Sep 18 07:25:26 when in DB8? Sep 18 07:25:35 Or you have other suggestions for this? Sep 18 07:33:06 Don't know we really want that in db8... but probably have a service for that. Or we better leave it out for now? :) Sep 18 07:34:51 I don't need it for now but would be good for future sometime Sep 18 07:35:07 I currently prefix everything without a prefix with http :P Sep 18 07:35:17 Which is not ideal of course :P Sep 18 07:38:34 you do that yourself? What if you leave that out, doesn't the web-thingie you use do something? ;) Sep 18 07:38:59 No:P Sep 18 07:39:18 It tries to load a local file suffixed with the url :P Sep 18 07:39:33 So we need to explicitly prefix it with http:// ;) Sep 18 07:39:38 ah.. ok. Makes sense. That's not good. ;) Sep 18 07:39:44 No :P Sep 18 07:40:14 Already fixed that when manually entering URL's, needed to do the same for launch params (from Just Type) for example :P Sep 18 07:40:50 But that works now too... Just confused by QT sometimes... Lots of good stuff is there already for ages and some basic stuff is missing :s Sep 18 08:30:27 morning Sep 18 08:35:26 Tofe: morning :) Sep 18 09:01:20 morning Sep 18 09:01:27 Garfonso: we have sources for the im messaging connectors Sep 18 09:01:48 https://github.com/webOS-ports/imaccountvalidator Sep 18 09:01:51 https://github.com/webOS-ports/imlibpurpleservice Sep 18 11:16:11 morphis: great to know. :) Sep 18 12:11:32 morphis: some launcher improvements https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/pull/129 Sep 18 12:13:25 Tofe: merged Sep 18 12:13:46 thx Sep 18 12:38:10 morning folks Sep 18 12:39:09 Garfonso, does olddroid pop into the room here periodically or do I need to track down elsewhere? Sep 18 13:15:21 thrrgilag: He's around here usually :) Sep 18 13:16:27 Herrie, cool thanks. atm I'm just wrapping my head around the android build stuff Sep 18 13:19:27 Herrie, btw I saw your fixes for the launch params. :) Thanks for fixing that up a bit. I had missed the need for the prefix Sep 18 13:20:34 Yeah ;) It's a bit silly but was testing and noticed it. Still working on setting/prefs but almost done layout wise, so just adding back end stuffs now :P Sep 18 15:03:03 Tofe|Away: Cannot seem to get drag & drop work on N4. You sure you implemented the Tweak correctly :P ? Sep 18 15:12:39 Garfonso, seems like a Tweet about this would help? (the N4 WiFi Issue?) Sep 18 15:13:59 wifi issue? Sep 18 15:16:57 btw the issue that wappmanb met is not bug, but just not yet implemented feature. I will add it to tracker after some time. Sep 18 15:18:05 nizovn, okay so open wifi on n4 then? Sep 18 15:18:20 No: i can use it with pw Sep 18 15:18:32 Both at home and using FreeTether on Tp Sep 18 15:18:47 with N4 and WEP? Sep 18 15:20:15 Would need to check what I use exactly let me get TP Sep 18 15:20:40 FreeTether = WPA2 Personal Sep 18 15:20:58 Who uses WEP nowadays? It's vulnerable as hell :P Sep 18 15:22:07 ka6sox: actually connect button do nothing. But if choose network from list that "should" work. OK, i will test with wep but on TP. Sep 18 15:22:25 nizovn, thanks Sep 18 15:22:34 Herrie|Veer, some people I guess... Sep 18 15:22:45 Need to check what my wifi at home uses Sep 18 15:22:50 Both work though Sep 18 15:22:54 Herrie|Veer, might be okay if you like in Moosebreath Alaska... Sep 18 15:23:07 s/like/live/ Sep 18 15:23:34 nizovn: I noticed sometimes wifi on/off is buggy. Turned it off and reboot solves it, then turning on Sep 18 15:24:40 Could be some timing issue with connmanctl Sep 18 15:25:09 Herrie|Veer: hm.. you want me to solve this? :) i don't have skills Sep 18 15:25:27 I don't know :P Sep 18 15:25:38 Might be more morphis' area ;) Sep 18 15:25:50 Probably some sequence at boot or something Sep 18 15:30:29 Good morning! I signed up for the issue tracker and am checking in via IRC, as requested Sep 18 15:30:51 Aressel aka Brent, develper of FeedSpider here Sep 18 15:31:02 good morning Sep 18 15:31:03 Welcome :) Sep 18 15:31:43 Youkoso #webos-ports he. ;) Sep 18 15:32:19 So I promised Garfonso that I would plug away at the Preware 2 settings dialog (Bug 603) Sep 18 15:32:31 and was hoping that someone had the power to assign it to me Sep 18 15:33:16 Let me have a look if I have these powers :P Sep 18 15:33:55 What's the name you used when signing up to issue tracker? Sep 18 15:35:03 Aressel Sep 18 15:36:11 Seems like I only have a list with "real names" to choose from, not nicknames :P Sep 18 15:36:56 Brent Hunter then :) Sep 18 15:39:15 Aressel, okay thanks…I'll get you promoted there so you can add/modify things... Sep 18 15:39:24 thanks! Sep 18 15:39:44 ka6sox: Seems I got those powers as well, done, will assign now :p Sep 18 15:40:08 Done Sep 18 15:40:17 Herrie|Veer, excellent Sep 18 15:40:25 we need to keep it moving :) Sep 18 15:40:59 Morning Aressel what are you thinking of playing with? Sep 18 15:41:29 Promised Garfonso that I would work on the Preware 2 settings dialog. Sep 18 15:41:55 That way he can work on core stuff Sep 18 15:42:37 Aressel, excellent! Sep 18 15:45:33 Aressel: On FeedSpider, seems scrolling doesn't work... Sep 18 15:45:53 on LuneOS? Sep 18 15:45:59 Yeah :P Sep 18 15:46:06 and in which panel? Sep 18 15:46:07 Let me see where it was Sep 18 15:49:05 In the All Items view Sep 18 15:49:31 I get the list with 42 items but it only displays 6 and can't scroll down ;) Sep 18 15:49:48 Could be the app or something in LuneOS, not sure :P Sep 18 15:50:40 All folders, or a specific folder? Sep 18 15:55:05 I have only an oldreader account with tweakers.mobi rss feed Sep 18 15:55:22 So I have All Items and Tweakers.mobi Nieuws in my lis Sep 18 15:55:50 +t both for All Items and Tweakers.mobi Nieuws I cannot scroll when I go into their respective pages Sep 18 16:05:06 Okay, did a quick test and it works on webOS 3.x. It must be a LuneOS issue - I will need to test further. There might be an issue with the Enyo 2 list kind... Sep 18 16:05:49 Could be our implementation somehow as well Sep 18 16:05:55 Not sure... Sep 18 16:06:14 Scrolling in general does work "elsewhere" Sep 18 16:06:30 hm.. seems my message is not in logs. again: wep works on TP, seems i was wrong about that wifi issue. Sep 18 16:06:40 are you just using scrollers? Sep 18 16:07:19 IIRC, lists and repeaters do some additonal magic Sep 18 16:07:33 does scrolling work on the preferences screen? Sep 18 16:08:34 On prefs also not Sep 18 16:09:10 interesting Sep 18 16:09:53 prefs just implements a scroller Sep 18 16:10:44 that being said, the whole thing is wrapped inside a set of panels, which in turn is wrapped inside a fittablerows kind Sep 18 16:11:27 Ah in Memo's it also doesn't work! Sep 18 16:11:51 Maybe it's the Enyo version? Are you using 2.4 or 2.5? Sep 18 16:11:57 2.4 Sep 18 16:13:14 I didn't know that 2.5 was available yet (aside from nightly, of course) Sep 18 16:13:58 Not sure if it's official either Sep 18 17:39:41 Herrie email coming you way auto width of ssid in setting app for the n4 Sep 18 18:05:31 cobblemonster: Got it, will give it a go later today and tomorrow, together with webos-lib change :-) Been too caught up on browser goodness and QML madness lol :-P Sep 18 18:31:26 ok Sep 18 18:43:33 Herrie|TP: but you got dnd working on the TP, right? Sep 18 18:44:33 cause in general I just set the default value to true to do my tests Sep 18 19:12:51 Tofe: Not really, only tried N4, enabled in Tweaks but doesn't woek Sep 18 19:12:53 work Sep 18 19:12:57 Enyo 2.5 is not released, yet. Sep 18 19:13:34 This was with latest master branch that had the PR in now? Sep 18 19:14:23 We once had issues where the screensize was reported wrongly to apps. That had effects on the scrollers, of course. Sep 18 19:15:11 This was for cards. The dnd for icons work (though order lost after LNC restart due to it not being stored anywhere yet?) Sep 18 19:24:06 Hope to finish another browser PR tomorrow to get prefs in and working. Most UI is tackled, just need to get some backend queries added and find a way to make a proper dropdown I'm happy with. QT drives me nuts sometimes. Lot of things are easy and straig Sep 18 19:24:06 ht forward but some simple things are just such a pain :-P Sep 19 00:25:42 Garfonso, thanks for the tip. ka6sox told me the tip about wifi this morning. tweeted it for others to know Sep 19 02:25:01 evening chroo Sep 19 02:25:05 choorp, Sep 19 02:25:24 heya ka6sox Sep 19 02:25:39 how goes things? Sep 19 02:26:15 Pretty well! Just got my replacement Mozilla Flame in the mail today. Sep 19 02:26:47 I thought I saw a reference to this on Twitter Sep 19 02:27:52 Vague reference, yes. Picked it up 6 or so hours ago. Now I can get back to me app. Sep 19 02:27:58 my* Sep 19 02:47:25 yes, I saw that reference but understood what it meant :0 Sep 19 02:47:26 :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Sep 19 03:00:00 2014