**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 22 03:00:00 2014 Sep 22 04:53:53 evening DougReeder_ Sep 22 04:54:23 ka6sox, great timing! I just successfully booted my TP into LuneOS! Sep 22 04:54:33 \o/ Sep 22 04:55:01 was told where the right Doco is for the Emulator too... Sep 22 04:55:02 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Emulator Sep 22 04:56:31 … and holding down an OSK key turns the TP off. Sep 22 04:57:58 ? Sep 22 05:00:09 … or at least puts it to sleep. Sep 22 05:00:34 Do I need to add feeds to Preware 2? Sep 22 05:03:29 … or do I just need a network connection before the built-in feeds show any data? Sep 22 05:05:36 Wi-Fi is supposed to work, yes? On my TP Settings just stalls out at “Searching for networks” Sep 22 05:14:19 Does wi-fi support wpa2 personal networks? Sep 22 05:23:44 After rebooting LuneOS, Settings now properly scans for wi-fi networks Sep 22 05:24:00 … and connects to a WPA2 Personal network Sep 22 05:24:55 again \o/ Sep 22 05:27:29 I’m thinking there should be a web page with a list of feature that are or aren’t working, but that can take non-trivial effort to update. Sep 22 05:28:00 Anyway, I’m off to bed. Sep 22 05:28:06 * DougReeder_ waves goodnight. Sep 22 05:29:26 night DougReeder_ Sep 22 05:56:59 morning Sep 22 05:58:44 Morning Garfonso Sep 22 06:02:55 Herrie: things like Simple/Advanded Mode in emulator should not go into db... best use cookies (currently not permanent for luna-next restart, but should be) or localStorage for that. Sep 22 07:18:41 Garfonso: You mean the calculator not emulator? Sep 22 07:22:11 morning Sep 22 07:26:46 morning Sep 22 07:45:41 Herrie|Veer: calculator, yes. Sorry. ;) Sep 22 08:02:29 Herrie|Veer, morphis: as for 631, grep shows that "loc_url" is only in UniversalSearchList.json. Have no idea how it worked before and what "loc" means. Maybe simply remove it? Sep 22 08:04:57 loc usually hints to "local" in webOS ... not sure what the meaning could be here... I know that for the wikipedia thingie it supported german wikipedia in some webOS versions if system was set to german Sep 22 08:06:38 nizovn: Yes might work. How can I test the .json import manually? Sep 22 08:06:58 I can luna-send them in, but would prefer to emulate proper working of the code Sep 22 08:17:31 Herrie|Veer: hm.. seems it import on first launch, when locale isn't set. see no way to reimport it manually. i just rebooted the emulator. Sep 22 08:18:13 Ok you think it imports each boot or only first? Sep 22 08:18:29 i think each boot Sep 22 08:21:53 OK strange thing is there's no reference to loc_url in C++ code from what I can see? Sep 22 08:22:00 Let me try just url :s Sep 22 12:30:45 * DougReeder waves good morning Sep 22 12:34:03 What’s the usual proceedure for sideloading apps? palm-install doesn’t work (and IIRC someone confirmed that last winter). Of course, I can copy packages over with novacom put, but what’s the on-device command to install? Sep 22 12:40:00 .. or, rather, adb push to copy the package. Sep 22 12:46:05 morning DougReeder Sep 22 12:46:21 * DougReeder smiles Sep 22 12:46:32 you can use preware on device to install Sep 22 12:47:12 or there is a luna-send cmd like... uhm... somewhere burried in preware code. ;) Sep 22 12:47:16 Ah! I’ve never needed that functionality before. Sep 22 12:48:01 I usually install with preware if I need something configured (db8 kinds, service, ...) and then just use scp / adb push to overwrite the files in the directories directly afterwards Sep 22 12:49:52 I tried to “Browse”, but Preware2 couldn’t find my package in /media/internal Is there a better place to put it? Sep 22 12:50:53 hm.. it should find it /media/internal.. that's where it starts looking Sep 22 12:52:36 Do I need to package it any different than for webOS? Sep 22 12:52:48 anyway, here is the luna-send cmd: luna-send -n 6 luna://com.palm.appinstaller/installNoVerify '{"subscribe":true, "target": "%s", "uncompressedSize": 0}' where %s is the path to the IPK. Sep 22 12:52:57 nope, I still use palm-package Sep 22 12:53:30 in Preware, can you try to switch to another folder and the go back? Sep 22 12:57:01 In Preware2, I get a header saing “Files” and immediately below it, a toolbar with the button “Cancel”. And that’s it. Sep 22 13:01:17 uhm.. ok. That's broken then. ;) Which version is that? A nightly? Or stable? Which device? Sep 22 13:01:42 I had some of those issues. Maybe try to overwrite Preware with the latest version. Sep 22 13:07:31 I installed the 19 Sept. version Sep 22 13:08:09 … on a TP. Sep 22 13:31:35 hm. Sep 22 13:32:31 Is there an automatic test suite I can run to verify that my installlation went properly? Sep 22 13:34:14 does GSM works in Nexus 4 port? Sep 22 13:37:42 Outline Tracker and AgentZ are Mojo, Popup Calc requires notifications, Exhibition Calc requires Exhibition, and Zap requires the media indexer. I’m striking out here. :-( Sep 22 13:39:48 mailyaseen: not really.. no data yet, calls and sms could work, but no UI for them, yet Sep 22 13:40:07 DougReeder: uhm.. what? ;) If it boots it is ok? :p Sep 22 13:40:28 media indexer should be there Sep 22 13:41:24 Hmm, I’ll have to dig into what’s behind the error message Zap gets then: “db: no index for query” Sep 22 13:41:27 also media permission things.. would be great if you could try that from an app developer perspective. :) Sep 22 13:41:55 How do I view my apps’ log? Sep 22 13:42:02 ah.. that probably is because the index on the db kind is not there, because we did the configuration from scratch. Sep 22 13:42:49 if you tell me which index you need, I'll add it. Is there information on what indexes are there on legacy somewhere? Could not find something back then. Sep 22 13:43:15 journalctl -a -f | grep "parts of app id" is what I currently use Sep 22 13:43:20 I treated the Media stuff as a balck box for the most part. Sep 22 13:44:17 +Garfonso : Thank you Sep 22 13:45:11 Sep 22 13:44:02 tenderloin mojodb-luna[779]: [] [pmlog] DB8 MOJ_SERVICE_WARNING {"sender":"com.hominidsoftware.zapphotosharefree 1014","method":"find","payload":{"query":{"from":"com.palm.media.image.album:1","orderBy":"sortKey"}},"error":"db: no index for query","reqErr":-3965} Sep 22 13:55:00 Hi, All. Sep 22 13:55:32 Attempting to build luneOS on my desktop (Fedora 20) and am getting the following error from bb: Sep 22 13:55:33 Failed to fetch test data from the network. Please ensure your network is configured correctly. Sep 22 13:55:53 ERROR: Execution of event handler 'check_sanity_eventhandler' failed Sep 22 13:56:11 Help? Sep 22 13:56:12 richip: python2 ? Sep 22 13:56:14 Hey Sep 22 13:56:41 richip, i worked around it by adding this to my conf/local.conf Sep 22 13:56:45 CONNECTIVITY_CHECK_URIS = "" Sep 22 13:57:07 okay. Let me check Sep 22 13:57:16 Never had such issue with the connectivity, maybe it happens when you have a proxy or something Sep 22 13:57:32 No proxies here Sep 22 13:57:33 Tofe, looks lke it's a quirk of the oe build stuff Sep 22 13:57:56 Would help to know what it's actually checking Sep 22 13:58:51 Alright ... got past the error in bb. Downloading packages now. Thanks Sep 22 13:59:07 DougReeder: can you raise a bug for that? Sep 22 13:59:33 richip, i hadn't dug too deep into it yet. got passed and focused of fixing my kernel issues which i think i may have finally (will know in a little bit) Sep 22 13:59:46 DougReeder: or add the missing index at https://github.com/webOS-ports/mediaindexer/tree/master/files/db8/kinds Sep 22 13:59:51 and send a PR :) Sep 22 14:00:08 Right. At least it's being tracked Sep 22 14:00:11 richip: Fedora 20 isn't supported Sep 22 14:00:26 use a ubuntu 12.04 chroot for building Sep 22 14:00:48 morphis: Meant to ask you: How do I build and install the messaging app (and any deps) so that I can start studying it and contribute to it Sep 22 14:01:12 richip: it's already installed into the nightlies Sep 22 14:01:17 By "use a ubuntu 12.04 chroot" you mean ... ? Sep 22 14:01:30 richip: you know what a chroot is? Sep 22 14:01:35 Yes Sep 22 14:02:11 Lemme check that out. I've never chroot a whole OS before Sep 22 14:02:11 we currently only support building within Ubuntu 12.04 Sep 22 14:02:25 so either you create a chroot for it or you have it installed in vbox Sep 22 14:02:36 richip: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot Sep 22 14:02:40 Thanks Sep 22 14:03:36 Note that I've been building LuneOS with Ubuntu 13.04 since quite a while without any issue Sep 22 14:05:23 Tofe: yeah newer versions can work too Sep 22 14:05:39 it can also work on Fedora but then you're on your own :) Sep 22 14:06:36 as long as python3 isn't enabled by default Sep 22 14:07:35 It's building right now on Fedora. I'll let it run and see where that takes me Sep 22 14:07:36 morphis, I’ll see if I can do that later today. Sep 22 14:07:59 Makes sense to have as many platforms as we can. No use alienating devs so early on. I'll see if I can maintain Fedora Sep 22 14:09:16 richip, which device are you building for? Sep 22 14:09:25 Nexus 4 (mako) Sep 22 14:13:22 Any rough estimate for how long the build takes? Sep 22 14:13:52 richip: depends on different facts Sep 22 14:14:17 if you use ubuntu 12.04 you can reuse the shared state we provide so it depends on your internet connection Sep 22 14:14:17 I thought it might. I guess I was wondering if it was to be counted in the minutes or hours Sep 22 14:14:35 for me, it's more hours... Sep 22 14:14:38 if you build from scratch expect a whole night ~8h Sep 22 14:14:53 Perfect. I'll leave it running then Sep 22 14:14:54 it's building a whole linux system from scratch Sep 22 14:25:36 morphis: btw is there any chance to avoid dependence of make-3.81? Sep 22 14:26:00 nizovn: why? Sep 22 14:26:17 3.82 is newer:) Sep 22 14:31:25 Does make 3.82 break the build? Sep 22 14:31:57 morphis: On core apps should I push my changes against master or ports/master? Sep 22 14:33:02 nizovn: make is normally updated with oe-core and we currently stick to the daisy release of it Sep 22 14:33:07 which provides make-3.82 Sep 22 14:33:14 a newer release isn't out yet Sep 22 14:33:24 and I would like not to use development version of it Sep 22 14:33:47 and until there is no critical need for 3.82 I would like to avoid upgrading it and do it once there is a new oe-core release Sep 22 14:33:57 btw. a topic for JaMa|Off our build-master :) Sep 22 14:36:36 ok. just asking because i need to switch it every time on OS update(every week) Sep 22 14:38:00 ah Sep 22 14:38:06 nizovn: which OS are you using as base? Sep 22 14:38:26 gentoo. i know it isn't supported;) Sep 22 14:43:38 JaMa|Off: builds on gentoo too Sep 22 15:33:44 Good morning folks. After glancing through the posts I missed while I was asleep I see there were quite a few "tech support" type questions. Please direct "how to install apps" questions to the forums or twitter. It will keep this space available to development questions. Sep 22 15:52:53 nizovn: it should be fine at least with daisy release Sep 22 15:53:19 nizovn: it has some issues, but most distros including gentoo already have necessary patches included Sep 22 15:57:43 JaMa|Off: you're back :) Sep 22 16:05:37 JaMa|Off: seems you are right, it builds successfully with 3.82. iirc it checked for 3.81 or patched 3.82 at some stage, and failed for me. but now it works :/ Sep 22 17:53:10 Garfonso: Re password manager for browser: I see I can use keymanager to crypt and decrypt keys but I would an own DB kind to store the website, username + password? Sep 22 17:53:21 And how about the key to encrypt/decrypt? Sep 22 17:54:42 would need that is ;) Sep 22 18:10:29 Who can do preware merges? I tested them and they're oK except for the scrolling on the settings page but that seems a generic Enyo 2 issue. Probably due to wrong screensize detection Sep 22 19:15:04 Happy 3 weeks from initial release. :) Sep 22 19:18:33 Alan_Morford: thanks ! time goes so fast Sep 22 21:04:41 Herrie: you have two possibilities. I wrote them down here: https://bpaste.net/show/4f635fee5cef Sep 22 21:07:25 Herrie: Buttonmanager is a creative solution. :) Sep 22 21:08:22 thanks Sep 22 21:08:35 i try to do what i can Sep 22 21:30:31 morphis: only partially :) Sep 22 21:30:42 but finally I've some wifi and gsm coverage here :) Sep 22 23:42:42 My webos build for Nexus 4 failed for lack of the xxd binary. So I installed vim-common . Question: how do I restart the build? Do I just rerun "bb webos-ports-dev-image"? Sep 22 23:42:58 Not a bitbake user prior to webos Sep 22 23:46:50 I'm guessing that xxd dependency is a webOS/luneOS one (as opposed to OE) Sep 23 02:06:25 Garfanso, thanks for adding the indexes foe media indexer types! Sep 23 02:08:53 Garfanso, has a new image been built since then? If I understand the listing, it looks like not. Sep 23 02:35:22 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Luna_Next shows screenshots of a new system menu. Are those mockups or should I be able to open that on the TP? Sep 23 02:40:05 richip: yes Sep 23 02:48:05 Build finally completed. Will attempt to install over existing stable release of luneOS on N4 Sep 23 02:50:03 Err, does anyone have the link to installing luneOS from a fresh build? Is there one binary file? Separate rootfs and kernel? Sep 23 02:51:04 Do you have a .tar.gz file? Sep 23 02:52:10 That, is, did the build process create a file like webos-ports-dev-image-tenderloin.tar.gz ? Sep 23 02:53:07 richip, you and i seem to be at the same step... i was just about to ask a similar question Sep 23 02:53:28 me thinks this may be a good opporunity to add to some documentation Sep 23 02:53:29 just finished bb webos-ports-dev-image ... it doesn't say what it actually generated :-p Sep 23 02:53:29 I believe the kernel should be built as a file called uImage Sep 23 02:53:37 Will have to find the artifact Sep 23 02:54:11 I've been capturing all the things I've been doing on Fedora. I wouldn't mind adding to the wiki Sep 23 02:54:52 being an Android related build, I think the kernel image probably called zImage Sep 23 02:55:19 rather than uImage Sep 23 02:55:57 tmp-eglibc/deploy/images Sep 23 02:57:50 Let me know if you've figured out how to install the newly built image. I've only installed luneOS using the instructions from http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Install_WOP_for_Mako and that one uses "adb sideload webos-ports-dev-package-mako.zip" **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 23 03:00:00 2014