**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 26 03:00:00 2014
Sep 26 05:47:40 <juristi> Good morning, everybody
Sep 26 05:47:45 <richip> Good morning
Sep 26 05:48:00 <richip> Where can the palm-novacom and palm-sdk packages be downloaded from now?
Sep 26 05:48:58 <juristi> The Simon's mails yesterday and today got me wondering about the building of luneOS.
Sep 26 05:49:31 <juristi> How can I be sure that the content is updated to the latest version? Running make update and then rebuilding skipped all tasks
Sep 26 05:49:45 <juristi> Is the only way to delete the tmp-directory?
Sep 26 05:52:48 <juristi> richip: I just downloaded some versions of those a few days back. Let's see, if I can still find the URL:s,
Sep 26 05:53:01 <richip> Thanks
Sep 26 05:55:33 <juristi> Richip: Any of these link good for you? http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-development/325645-looks-like-you-cant-get-sdk-anymore-almost.html
Sep 26 06:10:29 <richip> juristi: They worked. Thanks
Sep 26 06:16:55 <Garfonso> juristi: hm.. back in the old days there was some update target.. or so? A script? Maybe that is gone, though.
Sep 26 06:16:58 <Garfonso> morning btw ;)
Sep 26 06:18:02 <Garfonso> juristi: try "make update" in the webos-ports-env dir
Sep 26 06:51:50 <juristi> Garfonso: In the env root, that contains the common, downloads, scripts and webos-ports directories?
Sep 26 06:52:19 <juristi> That's where I've run the make update. Then cd webos-ports and try to build the qemux86 image
Sep 26 06:52:48 <juristi> OTOH it might be that there hasn't been any updates to the sources :)
Sep 26 07:08:38 <Tofe> morning
Sep 26 07:17:24 <Herrie|Veer> juristi: tbh I haven't build from sources in ages ;) Usually using nightly and pushing my changes there. Since I got both a TP and N4 that's enough for me to test on :P
Sep 26 07:21:23 <juristi> Herrie|Veer: :) For some reason I like to do things the hard way. Especially when trying to understand the env.
Sep 26 07:22:36 <Herrie|Veer> Yeah I'm sure it helps, just all low level system stuff is over my head, I can just follow instructions more or less :P
Sep 26 07:22:49 <Herrie|Veer> So I focus on stuff I can do better :P
Sep 26 07:26:37 <juristi> For me it's the other way around. The lower layers are the part I at least can try to pretend understanding.
Sep 26 08:06:48 <Garfonso> juristi: yes, that is what I meant... you can probably check in meta-webos-ports https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/tree/daisy when the last update was incorporated.
Sep 26 08:07:31 <Garfonso> probably there are other things to monitor for certain devices, but this is the main thing. Right? Hm.
Sep 26 09:14:39 <juristi> Hmm... For some reason make update is not updating the sources. That would explain the bitbake skipping the tasks.
Sep 26 09:15:18 <juristi> I seem to have some very old versions lying around.
Sep 26 09:18:22 <morphis> juristi: on which branch are you in your common directory?
Sep 26 09:20:49 <juristi> I followed the instructions in the wiki, so supposedly in the default one :D
Sep 26 09:20:57 <juristi> But I'll try to check
Sep 26 09:21:57 <morphis> suspect it's dora
Sep 26 09:22:10 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: we need  to update the build guide at wget https://raw.github.com/webOS-ports/webos-ports-setup/dora/Makefile
Sep 26 09:22:16 <juristi> Actually that sounds familiar
Sep 26 09:22:18 <morphis> sorry, meant http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Build_for_Mako
Sep 26 09:22:29 <morphis> juristi: we changed the scheme recently
Sep 26 09:22:34 <juristi> Have seen dora appear every now and then in the prints/logs.
Sep 26 09:22:36 <morphis> the ones you should care about are stable and testing
Sep 26 09:23:09 <morphis> juristi: if you're on the dora branch checkout stable instead and run a make update-common && make update
Sep 26 09:23:25 <morphis> that will build what will become the next release
Sep 26 09:23:35 <morphis> if you want to be in the heart of development
Sep 26 09:23:40 <morphis> checkout the testing branch
Sep 26 09:23:52 <juristi> Ok. The heart of the development is the pace to be, right?
Sep 26 09:23:52 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: can you add those things to the guide?
Sep 26 09:24:03 <morphis> juristi: yeah
Sep 26 09:26:40 * Garfonso is tempted to set up a build environment again...
Sep 26 09:27:28 <morphis> :)
Sep 26 09:28:41 <juristi> Great, switched to daisy
Sep 26 09:29:00 <Garfonso> but that needs a lot of space, right?
Sep 26 09:30:58 <Tofe> a build is about 50gb
Sep 26 09:31:58 <juristi> morphis: Thanks for helping me out!
Sep 26 09:32:04 <morphis> juristi: np
Sep 26 09:32:26 <morphis> juristi: can do the following:
Sep 26 09:32:29 <morphis> cd common
Sep 26 09:32:34 <morphis> git checkout origin/testing
Sep 26 09:32:34 <morphis> cd ..
Sep 26 09:32:38 <morphis> make update-common
Sep 26 09:32:45 <Garfonso> morphis: what is the right path for the Makefile?
Sep 26 09:32:50 <morphis> ah do a get fetch origin after cd common
Sep 26 09:32:58 <morphis> Garfonso: updating the wiki page right now
Sep 26 09:33:49 <juristi> Did those steps. Make update was still complaining about a few local changes, but have to fix those and try out a new build.
Sep 26 09:34:30 <juristi> Once the du completes... Tried to find real env usage for Garfonso, but the command takes ages on VirtualBox...
Sep 26 09:35:26 <Garfonso> juristi: the "about 5gb" is sufficient information... that means I need to find space somewhere on the big disks. ;)
Sep 26 09:36:14 <juristi> Yeah, but got also interested and this is now personal ;)
Sep 26 09:36:29 <morphis> juristi: your common dir is now on the testing branch?
Sep 26 09:37:05 <juristi> Actually it is now daisy.
Sep 26 09:37:07 <morphis> Garfonso: see http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Build_for_Mako
Sep 26 09:37:13 <morphis> juristi: it should be testing
Sep 26 09:37:22 <morphis> do a
Sep 26 09:37:25 <morphis> git checkout testing
Sep 26 09:37:27 <morphis> git pull
Sep 26 09:37:30 <morphis> and then
Sep 26 09:37:37 <morphis> cd .. && make update-common && make update
Sep 26 09:37:55 <morphis> pushed one change to it a few minutes ago which should keep it on testing once you do a make update-common
Sep 26 09:39:14 <juristi> Yes, it's now in testing also after update-common
Sep 26 09:40:07 <juristi> Now just need to check out the original lib/bb/fetch2/__init__.py and git.py I used for debugging the connectivity test urls
Sep 26 09:40:08 <morphis> great
Sep 26 09:43:20 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: thnx for update
Sep 26 09:43:27 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: np
Sep 26 09:44:55 <Garfonso> morphis: build instructions could still need a hint where to find the build files.. (I already forgot that ;))
Sep 26 09:45:28 <morphis> Garfonso: you mean the image itself?
Sep 26 09:45:51 <Garfonso> yes the image
Sep 26 09:45:57 <morphis> there is one under "Building"
Sep 26 09:45:58 <morphis> "After the build completes, you will find your image in <build env>/tmp-eglibc/deploy/images/mako/"
Sep 26 09:46:13 <morphis> maybe good to say which files are relevant and which not
Sep 26 09:47:02 <Garfonso> ah.. sorry, overlooked that. Did expect that in "Installing and running the image" ;)
Sep 26 09:48:49 <morphis> :)
Sep 26 09:49:03 <morphis> Garfonso: feel free to add everything you miss in the guide :)
Sep 26 09:51:45 <Herrie|Veer> I LuneOS-ified them a bit now :P
Sep 26 10:04:25 <morphis> yeah
Sep 26 10:05:23 <Herrie|Veer> Still had lots of references to the old name. Also added future releases to devices pages but commented them out for now, so it's easy to enable them on release :)
Sep 26 15:16:41 <mailyaseen> +Garfonso : Where can i find the list of working and non-working things on mako port?
Sep 26 15:19:39 <Herrie|Veer> mailyaseen: Audio works more or less, so does wifi, screen + touch other than that from hardware side not much yet. No gyro/accel/als/gsm/data
Sep 26 15:20:01 <Herrie|Veer> But that's more generic as not working for any of the devices currently
Sep 26 15:20:44 <mailyaseen> +Herrie|Veer : Thank you
Sep 26 15:21:20 <mailyaseen> +Herrie|Veer : do we have any place where i can keep checking the updates?
Sep 26 15:22:56 <Herrie|Veer> But you can play a bit with various bits though, various apps, new browser is coming along nicely :) We aim for monthly releases at beginning preferably 1st of the month (unless we have bugs blocking release). We're now in development freeze for this mont
Sep 26 15:22:57 <Herrie|Veer> h's release fixing bugs before release
Sep 26 15:23:19 <Herrie|Veer> We're also working on a website for the project with more actual info.
Sep 26 15:24:31 <Herrie|Veer> We keep a changelog at http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Change_Log
Sep 26 15:25:22 <Herrie|Veer> The format is not very readable due to the fact it's automatically generated from a JSON file. 24 has the changes since last stable release. Quite some as you can see :)
Sep 26 15:25:50 <Herrie|Veer> Project is getting more members so we can work more on the communication side of things too :P
Sep 26 15:25:58 <Herrie|Veer> cobblemonster: ping
Sep 26 15:26:26 <cobblemonster> hey  just in for a few then got to run for a bit
Sep 26 15:26:51 <Herrie|Veer> OK :P
Sep 26 15:27:24 <Herrie|Veer> Wondering if you got to cleaning the settings bit (wifi with funny colors)? Sent you my feedback on Sunday if I'm correct :P
Sep 26 15:28:09 <cobblemonster> i dont re call getting ant thing from you
Sep 26 15:28:42 <cobblemonster> try resending it
Sep 26 15:28:57 <Herrie|Veer> Done :)
Sep 26 15:29:09 <Herrie|Veer> Was on Monday, just fwd
Sep 26 15:31:43 <cobblemonster> ok got it (the email )
Sep 26 15:41:16 <cobblemonster> Herrie  try the pull request #26 thats open see how it works and let me know      then i will work on the bits left this  weekend
Sep 26 15:41:58 <cobblemonster> I think iam going to have to make version # the setting app yet :)
Sep 26 15:42:46 <cobblemonster> that was fixed up after the one your showing :)
Sep 26 15:43:53 <cobblemonster> ok got to run now  email what you think of #26
Sep 26 15:44:04 <Herrie|Veer> OK
Sep 26 21:23:48 <Garfonso> yeah.. flashing my own build image. :)
Sep 26 21:26:25 <thrrgilag> Garfonso, exciting
Sep 26 21:38:46 <Garfonso> hm.. not booting. :(
Sep 26 21:38:59 <Garfonso> anyway, need to get some sleep. Night. :)
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