**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 13 03:00:00 2014
Oct 13 04:54:59 <EricBlade> well that didn't work right
Oct 13 05:11:26 <EricBlade> from poking around through the android kernel sources a bit it seems that some hardware data structures are different on the 4g model vs the wifi only one.. so that would explain the problem. the 3g isn't just an add on that requires a driver.
Oct 13 05:15:21 <EricBlade> i wonder what "unrecognized/unsupported zip" means
Oct 13 05:15:43 <EricBlade> ... more specifically than the obvious
Oct 13 05:21:21 <jcsullins> EricBlade: means there's a set of recoveries that is compatible with v40 TPTB and a different set that is compatible with v41
Oct 13 05:22:17 <jcsullins> likely :)
Oct 13 05:25:41 <EricBlade> or perhaps that my limited understanding of how android works allowed me to completely screw up the contents of that zip file :-)  i was trying to replace the kernel of one setup with the kernel from another
Oct 13 05:27:34 <jcsullins> that shouldn't cause the error msg above
Oct 13 05:27:57 <jcsullins> unless you REALLY messed it up :)
Oct 13 05:28:36 <EricBlade> well, what i tried was simply swapping boot.img files and then changing the checksums in /META-INF/MANIFEST.MF to match. and that's what blew up
Oct 13 05:29:45 <EricBlade> jcsullins: since you're here, though, two things .. 1- your work is awesome :) 2- you wouldn't happen to know of a reasonably functional setup that works on tp4g and is installable with tptoolbox?
Oct 13 05:31:14 <jcsullins> hmm, I though NewbyJE was "this close" to having one ready a while back, but haven't heard anything in a while
Oct 13 05:32:26 <jcsullins> as for installing with TPTB -- use v41 as it adds support for TP4G (in TPTB itself and the recoveries for it) and should allow installing pretty much any version
Oct 13 05:33:28 <jcsullins> well, he also had some older versions that could be installed too, I guess
Oct 13 05:33:32 <EricBlade> oh? i thought it only understood newer builds .. ?
Oct 13 05:34:25 <jcsullins> v41 should understand pretty much anything ICS or above (you really don't want to try to install anything older anyway)
Oct 13 05:36:30 <EricBlade> NewbyJE's 4.4.4 build is more... "functional" .. than _functional_ .. at least on mine. it reboots on me a -lot- .. and i'm curious as to if it's more of a kernel problem or something else.  and i'm sort of just now getting into this lower level stuff, i've preferred to stay out of it till now
Oct 13 05:37:50 <EricBlade> since tptb works on both 4g and wifi, i'm wondering if a 4g kernel would otherwise work on a regular wifi device, or if it's only working in as much as TPTB needs it to
Oct 13 05:38:51 <jcsullins> same kernel binary (that has added 4G support) will work on both, BUT to get the real benefit of 4G more has to be done in userspace
Oct 13 05:38:59 <EricBlade> ... and then armed with this knowledge, to be on topic, i'd like to see if i can make a build of Lune work on it
Oct 13 05:39:07 <jcsullins> at least the is true of my kernel
Oct 13 05:39:52 <jcsullins> well, AFAIK, lune is currently based on milaq's fork of my kernel that was forked before I added 4G support
Oct 13 05:40:46 <EricBlade> i'm going to guess that that was more involved than simply turning on some kernel build options?
Oct 13 05:41:03 <jcsullins> yes
Oct 13 05:41:10 <ka6sox> EricBlade, I will ask morphis when he is up.
Oct 13 05:43:19 <jcsullins> EricBlade: https://github.com/TLOIN-3X-WIP/android_kernel_samsung_msm8660-common/tree/tenderloin-cm-11.0-wip-5-bl
Oct 13 05:43:51 <jcsullins> that has 4G support in it
Oct 13 05:45:41 * jcsullins realizes he really needs to go back and properly "commit" those "WIP" labelled commits :)
Oct 13 05:46:36 <EricBlade> would that be basically from "tenderloin: add 3G support" through to "add sierrawireless_swi driver"?
Oct 13 05:48:45 <jcsullins> plus te "wip" after that and "tenderloin: port board_setup_S3A_1V8 from 2.6 kernel" is a 4G fix
Oct 13 05:49:01 <jcsullins> well, that should be the bulk of it, at least
Oct 13 05:50:42 <EricBlade> interesting.  and probably more than i have time to figure out reasonably. ugh.  i probably should just put together a Lune build system and power through it
Oct 13 05:57:08 <EricBlade> huh.. some references to opal and stingray.. interesting.
Oct 13 05:58:32 <jcsullins> some of that code was borrowed from the HP-released android kernel :)
Oct 13 06:13:19 <EricBlade> i've got a spare opal, and a whole bunch of not-quite-working-all-the-way stingrays... if anyone wants to do the grunt work on those. ;)
Oct 13 06:15:42 <ka6sox> EricBlade, the Opal is Wifi or 4G?
Oct 13 06:15:57 <jcsullins> Go
Oct 13 06:16:11 <jcsullins> err, nvm :)
Oct 13 06:16:52 <ka6sox> I have both kinds
Oct 13 06:17:18 <EricBlade> ka6sox: i think i have 3 wifis and 2 4gs .. but i only have one of each that currently is booting
Oct 13 06:17:48 <ka6sox> :)
Oct 13 06:18:34 <EricBlade> i think they just need batteries, but i'm not entirely certain. i popped a battery in one, and it went from giving me the "low battery" indicator (before i put the battery in) to not doing a darn thing.
Oct 13 06:18:53 <EricBlade> but it was not a known working battery.  and i don't have a screwdriver that fits these tiny screws
Oct 13 06:19:02 <ka6sox> ah
Oct 13 06:19:04 <ka6sox> got it
Oct 13 06:23:16 <EricBlade> i take that back on the stingrays, wrong code name
Oct 13 06:30:30 <EricBlade> jcsullins: thanks for the tip that tptoolbox works with other than the brand newest images, trying an older 4g build
Oct 13 06:35:26 <ka6sox> EricBlade, also the new LuneOS Antonicco builds put the roots in luneos-rootfs to keep them "safe" from other htings.
Oct 13 06:43:19 <Garfonso> morning
Oct 13 06:59:15 <EricBlade> huh.. apparently back in March, Cyanogenmod released a thing that merges Google Voice messages into the Messaging app in Android.  where have i heard about that before...
Oct 13 07:16:08 <Herrie|Veer> morning
Oct 13 07:16:38 <Herrie|Veer> EricBlade: Can indeed confirm wifi doesn't work on 4G TP
Oct 13 07:16:51 <Herrie|Veer> Tested this morning
Oct 13 07:18:13 <ka6sox> Herrie|Veer, have you tried anything on an Opal?
Oct 13 07:18:53 <EricBlade> Herrie|Veer: yeah, i gathered that :D talked with jcsullins for a bit, it sounds like it might be possible to bring in his changes to his kernel that works on both wifi and 4g, though. not sure how much is involved.
Oct 13 07:21:19 <Herrie|Veer> Opal doesn't boot
Oct 13 07:24:06 <Herrie|Veer> Moboot doesn't work at all on Opal so membooted the uImage sometime
Oct 13 07:24:11 <EricBlade> this built in google voice integration in cm11 is not nearly as error-proof as synergv.. and synergv isn't exactly bulletproof
Oct 13 07:24:19 <Herrie|Veer> But to no avail
Oct 13 07:25:08 <Herrie|Veer> It shouldn't be too hard to get Opal working I'd guess for jcsullins or morphis, hw wise it's quite similar to TP(4G)?
Oct 13 07:26:54 <Herrie|Veer> They have the debugging cables ;)
Oct 13 07:27:48 <ka6sox> :)
Oct 13 07:27:52 <ka6sox> okay bed time here
Oct 13 09:20:07 <EricBlade> hah. it's apparently the google now launcher that was completely screwing up the system
Oct 13 11:52:27 <Joe__> hi webOS world
Oct 13 17:51:07 <morphis> morning
Oct 13 17:53:24 <Herrie> morphis: Morning, still far away?
Oct 13 17:53:31 <morphis> no
Oct 13 17:53:39 <morphis> back in UTC+1
Oct 13 17:53:48 <Herrie> Ah :) jetlagged or OK?
Oct 13 17:54:13 <morphis> not really
Oct 13 17:54:23 <morphis> just took the day off to relax
Oct 13 17:54:51 <Herrie> :)
Oct 13 17:55:21 <Herrie> 1 week trips with so much time difference it's the best to stay on your "own" schedule as much as possible usually ;) At least for me :P
Oct 13 17:55:22 <morphis> anything important happend in between?
Oct 13 17:55:39 <morphis> yeah
Oct 13 17:56:06 <Herrie> Nothing much, we confirmed wifi doesn't work currently on TP4G in LuneOS, seems we need a few patches (check log from earlier today), shouldn't be rocket science though
Oct 13 17:56:12 <morphis> normally such time differences doesn't seem to matter to me, only being tired cause I can't really sleep when on a plane
Oct 13 17:56:26 <Herrie> That's sorted when you fly business :P
Oct 13 17:56:34 <Herrie> With a proper company ;)
Oct 13 17:56:56 <Herrie> At least I was allowed at my previous employer when it was 8+ hrs flights ;) With current one only economy :(
Oct 13 17:57:02 <Herrie> And that doesn't sleep nicely ;)
Oct 13 17:57:24 <morphis> yeah
Oct 13 17:57:30 <morphis> economy is bad
Oct 13 17:58:16 <Herrie> When you can lay flat in business or more or less flat it's OK, can catch almost normal amoutn of sleep... In eco well only a few hrs max
Oct 13 17:58:35 <Herrie> And that's no fun all wrapped up :P And I'm not even that tall at 1.83 ;)
Oct 13 17:59:26 <morphis> :)
Oct 13 17:59:56 <Herrie> Been down with flu most of last week, still not feeling that well.... So not much done at my end last week....
Oct 13 18:00:11 <Herrie> Had headaches so PC's were not a good way to spend time :P
Oct 13 18:01:54 <morphis> ok
Oct 13 18:06:34 <morphis> need to sync up what happend and what needs to go next
Oct 13 18:11:40 <Herrie> nizovn: Ping
Oct 13 18:12:00 <Herrie> I thought you had a partial fix for http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/667 ?
Oct 13 18:14:59 <morphis> Herrie: I raised some new bugs last week
Oct 13 18:17:58 <Herrie> Yeah saw those ;)
Oct 13 18:18:31 <Herrie> Interesting stuff on wayland etc :P
Oct 13 18:18:47 <Herrie> And chromium with recent APK stuff running there ;)
Oct 13 18:19:15 <morphis> that is not my intention yet
Oct 13 18:30:54 <Herrie> Yet ;)
Oct 13 18:34:09 <morphis> yeah
Oct 13 18:54:36 <nizovn> Herrie: pong
Oct 13 18:55:22 <Herrie> nizovn
Oct 13 18:55:35 <Herrie> Re 667? I thought you had a (partial) fix for that already?
Oct 13 18:56:03 <morphis> Herrie: https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/pull/61
Oct 13 18:56:05 <nizovn> Herrie: touch should work
Oct 13 18:56:37 <Herrie> Ah :D
Oct 13 19:08:44 <nizovn> Herrie: btw still can't crash luna-next by keyboard while playing with password fields(tried on google and webosnation), maybe you can provide backtrace from gdb for it? :)
Oct 13 19:27:30 <Herrie> morphis: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-appmanager/commit/8cd8a82551a36d7ef9c9714a258ab60cf92bdc6f fixes the email app problem?
Oct 13 19:27:59 <morphis> Herrie: doubt that
Oct 13 19:28:20 <morphis> because in that case the app shows the window itself
Oct 13 19:28:30 <morphis> in this case we're just focussing it again
Oct 13 19:29:35 <Herrie> ok anyway off to catch some sleep
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