**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 18 02:59:59 2014 Oct 18 03:27:26 * DougReeder waves hello Oct 18 03:28:26 I want to copy hundreds of files to a device. Is there an easier way than zipping them as an archive using adb push, and unzipping? Oct 18 04:56:20 DougReeder: $149 is a good price for a Nexus 4? I'm so cheap! Oct 18 04:58:33 * DougReeder smiles Oct 18 04:58:45 Cheaper than elsewhere. Oct 18 05:06:36 depends if the battery is worn out or not Oct 18 06:48:50 Hello. I am gradually feeling my way towards doing something useful for the project. Oct 18 06:48:56 I have bought myself an N4 and built (something very close to) Antoccino to put on it. Oct 18 06:49:04 I would like to make some notes on the [webos-ports] wiki but I can only edit existing pages at the moment. Oct 18 06:49:11 I cannot even create my own user page [Elvispre]. Oct 18 06:49:18 Any chance of a little more wiki power? Who looks after that? Oct 18 06:49:25 I have some experience of MediaWiki from work and I promise to tread carefully. Oct 18 06:59:38 H Oct 18 07:00:13 elvispre: wait for Herrie to popup here Oct 18 07:13:08 elvispre, what is your user ID (with all the CaMeL CaSe Oct 18 07:13:09 ) Oct 18 07:51:27 Herrie: I am "Elvispre" on the webOS-ports MediaWiki. I would like to make some notes as I work out how to get developing, but I have no power to create pages. Oct 18 07:51:36 Herrie: I see myself creating one or two How All This Hangs Together pages and then linking them in somewhere sensible if they're any good. Oct 18 07:51:42 Herrie: I know what I'm doing with MediaWiki already, I just need someone to trust me with some more permissions. Oct 18 08:42:15 elvispre: No problem ;) Oct 18 08:42:19 Let me sort that Oct 18 08:44:06 I think you can do something more now ;) Give it a go, let me know in case you need more permissions ;) Oct 18 09:12:56 Herrie: Thank you. That has done the trick. Oct 18 09:19:41 Herrie: for some reason clicking on links in search engines doesn't work(at least in google and yandex). Oct 18 09:29:15 Herrie: nevermind that^^, started work for now :/ Oct 18 09:30:48 nizovn: what are you currently working on? Oct 18 09:31:55 morphis: i'm free now, finding something Oct 18 09:32:18 ah good Oct 18 09:35:49 nizovn: http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/597 Oct 18 09:40:20 morphis: thanks, will see Oct 18 09:40:20 Herrie: that problem exists, but need special test Oct 18 09:40:47 nizovn: btw are you comfortable with python? Oct 18 09:41:32 morphis: no Oct 18 09:42:12 ok Oct 18 09:43:47 nizovn: my idea was that we write some test cases in python which is running commands over adb to perform the tests Oct 18 09:45:14 nizovn: another task would be to get Oct 18 09:45:25 seems good, but i absolutely don't know python :) Oct 18 09:45:30 https://github.com/webOS-ports/imaccountvalidator and https://github.com/webOS-ports/imlibpurpleservice building in OE Oct 18 09:45:46 nizovn: ok, maybe I do some examples and others can help with adding more tests Oct 18 09:47:25 nizovn: and one other task: https://github.com/webOS-ports/audio-service Oct 18 09:47:37 I added https://github.com/webOS-ports/audio-service/commit/6d2e9e24a417b85a3861b7aa176e26619f6f2800 recently but calling those methods causes the daemon to crash Oct 18 09:49:08 ok Oct 18 09:52:20 nizovn: I would say Oct 18 09:52:34 1. audio-service (with that we unblock someone else working on the phone app) Oct 18 09:52:42 2. the additions for the browser Oct 18 09:52:46 3. the im services Oct 18 09:52:50 ok Oct 18 10:15:50 nizovn: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/telepathy-ofono/trunk/view/head:/qpulseaudioengine.cpp is the reference code for audio Oct 18 10:18:05 Herrie: btw. now as you know QML you might help Roshan with the phone app :) Oct 18 10:18:15 Herrie: for example with adding call history etc. Oct 18 10:18:21 (aka db8 storage) Oct 18 10:18:27 or contact db access Oct 18 11:43:11 morphis: Yes can do that Oct 18 11:43:20 Need to reach out to him Oct 18 11:43:32 nizovn: On Prelude: Will that solve cyrillic problem as well? Oct 18 11:45:42 Herrie: seems yes Oct 18 11:59:02 :D Oct 18 11:59:05 Will try Oct 18 11:59:15 Was on my todo list as well ;) Oct 18 11:59:22 But good you got it sorted :D Oct 18 12:08:39 Herrie: well, you can see above problem instead ;) Oct 18 12:12:21 Which one? Oct 18 12:12:32 Search engine one? That was sorted I think... Need to check Oct 18 12:13:46 Was broken with some previous build but fixed that a couple of weeks ago Oct 18 12:13:51 Should be in latest image Oct 18 12:15:32 oops, forgot to update yesterday Oct 18 12:38:50 Herrie: no, it is still here, but need special actions to reproduce. Go to "google.com"(main page) and search something, then links doesn't work. But they works from url bar. Seems it adds weird stuff to url in first case. Oct 18 12:39:32 Herrie: btw Preference page is still transparent for mouse clicks ;) Oct 18 13:43:14 nizovn: Need to have a look sometime in Vbox, testing on device in general :P Oct 18 13:52:41 nizovn: Search links on Google work when I tap on them Oct 18 13:52:51 So I go to google.com, search for something, press link, all works Oct 18 13:53:06 Funnys tuff added to url is google references Oct 18 13:53:17 They do that in normal browser on desktop as well Oct 18 14:25:11 Herrie: seems i figured this out: only on google.ru default search preferences are set to open search results in new window. when go to google.com in russia, it goes to google.ru, but this is not visible because of long url Oct 18 14:43:26 Ah Oct 18 14:43:29 That could be it Oct 18 14:43:35 Google.com doesn't open in new window Oct 18 14:46:24 Herrie: you can set it, if you want :) Oct 18 14:47:20 Ah ;) Well opening new window currently doesn't work ;) Oct 18 14:47:37 I think we'll leave that until we move to QT 5.4 with QtWebEngine to address this Oct 18 14:48:16 ok Oct 18 14:48:21 Seems QT 5.4 hit beta y'day ;) Oct 18 14:48:27 http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt-5.4-release Oct 18 16:06:16 * DougReeder waves hello Oct 18 16:07:04 It looks like node/JS services are running 5-10x slower under LuneOS. Oct 18 16:07:51 That's probably a low priority for now, but it does show that there's room for improvement. Oct 18 16:08:44 At some point, I need to narrow it down whether that's due to code execution, file acces, or something else. Oct 18 16:11:13 Zap could index a thousand photos in a minute under webOS, but it's only indexing about a hundred under LuneOS. Oct 18 16:11:38 Is LuneOS using both cores on the TP? Oct 18 16:48:41 DougReeder: I'm happy you're testing all these things :) Oct 18 16:48:47 I'm not sure about cores, I guess it should... Oct 18 16:49:28 Lots of stuff was just made to "work", performance wasn't always tested, often just unit tested, not large numbers ;) Oct 18 16:50:57 So it's good we have devs like you on board to thoroughly test some stuff as well :D Oct 18 17:07:17 * DougReeder smiles Oct 18 17:10:37 DougReeder: https://github.com/webos-internals/govnah/blob/master/src/luna_methods.c Oct 18 17:11:28 Seems that you can get useful info from the following: bool is_cpu_online(cpu) Oct 18 17:11:39 sprintf(filename, "/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu%d/online", cpu); Oct 18 17:12:19 So you can do a "adb pull /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/online" Oct 18 17:12:33 And open the file "online". It should say 1 for enabled I guess Oct 18 17:12:38 You can do the same for cpu1 ;) Oct 18 17:13:19 On my N4 it gives 0 for cpu1, cpu2 and cpu 3 and 1 for cpu0 Oct 18 17:13:30 Not sure how the logics in kernel work Oct 18 17:14:37 When it activates other cores etc, quite sure morphis can elaborate on that Oct 18 17:51:29 On my idling TP, cpu0 is 1 and cpu1 is, too Oct 18 19:19:00 Seems /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq and /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq hold the current frequency of CPU :) Oct 18 23:02:15 welcome ichthys Oct 18 23:02:22 Herrie, are you about? Oct 18 23:02:28 (probably not as he is in .nl Oct 18 23:02:29 ) Oct 18 23:06:31 Oh didnt see the general thread .... ka6sox .... was pinging u private Oct 18 23:07:25 ichthys, yup…its okay you found your way here which is the right place to get involved. Oct 18 23:08:30 ichthys, I suggest hanging out here or setting up a bouncer so you can see the discussion when you are not available. Oct 18 23:09:14 bouncer ? Sorry ...my first time on irc .... not familiar with the lingo ... how do I do that ? Oct 18 23:09:42 what IRC client are you using currently ? Oct 18 23:09:53 pidgin . Oct 18 23:13:31 okay…if you can leave it running 24/7 you will find out what is happening here… Oct 18 23:13:42 its very low bandwidth Oct 18 23:13:50 (text only) Oct 18 23:15:51 Alright ok ..... These old netbooks are great at not sipping too much power :) Oct 18 23:17:31 yup, and just enough power to handle IRC :) Oct 18 23:18:11 for builds you might want a little more Power :) Oct 18 23:19:31 yeah .... my other pc needs upgrading as well I think. My last kernel build took an hour to get through Oct 18 23:20:04 aha, luckily the Apps stuff isn't too bad for requirements Oct 18 23:20:16 so I think you should be okay if that is what you are interested in. Oct 18 23:20:25 add git to your netbook so you can edit on that :) Oct 18 23:22:45 yeah. Well let me have a dig around and see if I can make myself useful ........ I made the mistake of closing the private msg window before checking the link u sent me ka6sox ..... Could you please post the link again ... Sorry !!! Oct 18 23:24:24 http://issues.webos-ports.org/projects/ports/issues?set_filter=1 Oct 18 23:24:27 no worries Oct 18 23:26:07 Cheers ..thanks ka6sox ..... yeah already got git .... although might not have space to clone the repo(s) on the netbook ... Will have to tell the wife to stop getting on facebook when Im doing a few builds :) . Dont know how successful thats going to be Oct 18 23:26:44 ichthys, know how that one goes.. Oct 18 23:27:05 the apps repos are fairly small. Oct 18 23:27:13 the full build repos..not small. Oct 18 23:31:23 ok cheers for the info ka6sox ....... will try to get to work when I can get my hands on an N4 then....... Altho I'm a bit sad, it's not being ported onto my Pre3 . I still try convincing my friends the merits of the abandoned phone. Oct 18 23:35:54 the problem is there is no Android port for Pre3 Oct 18 23:37:58 Oh yeah ...... forgot about the libhybris bit. Just read about it a little while earlier **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Oct 19 03:00:00 2014