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Oct 30 03:07:52 <DougReeder> should I worry about warnings like: QA Issue: Package version for package certmgrd-staticdev went backwards
Oct 30 03:09:36 <thrrgilag> i haven't been since they are just warnings, not sure if there may be gremlins lurking about though
Oct 30 03:21:39 <DougReeder> I’ve run through the Nexus 4 instructions, and the last two are ‘reboot’ and ‘your systemshould now boot directl int LuneOS’.  However, ClockworkMod Recovery is asking me “Root acess is missing. Root device? THIS CANNOT BE UNDONE” with options No and Yes - Root device (/system/xbin/su)
Oct 30 03:23:31 <thrrgilag> wow, yeah i would go with a no
Oct 30 03:23:53 <thrrgilag> cwm must be attempting to be helpful to android folk
Oct 30 03:55:25 <DougReeder> I answered no and luneos booted
Oct 30 03:56:00 <DougReeder> still can’t enter a wifi password in 1st use
Oct 30 06:40:31 <Herrie> DougReeder: Seems the fix for wifi PW in First Use didn't make it in latest nightly yet
Oct 30 06:40:44 <Herrie> Though it was created by morphis, I think it's not in build yet
Oct 30 06:54:41 <morphis> Herrie: should be in the stable
Oct 30 06:55:17 <morphis> triggered testing builds
Oct 30 07:07:31 <Herrie> morphis: I tried http://build.webos-ports.org/luneos-testing/images/mako/webos-ports-dev-package-mako.zip from 27th and it's not working there
Oct 30 07:08:00 <Herrie> Ah I tried 28th as well
Oct 30 07:08:09 <Herrie> The one you linked in email: http://build.webos-ports.org/luneos-stable-staging/027/images/mako/
Oct 30 07:08:27 <Herrie> Lemme try again to confirm, maybe i flashed wrong image
Oct 30 07:09:17 <morphis> in that one the keyboard should popup
Oct 30 07:37:11 <Herrie> morphis: No it doesn't.....
Oct 30 07:54:00 <morphis> ok
Oct 30 08:05:24 <morphis> Herrie: sorry, my fault
Oct 30 08:05:30 <morphis> the fix for that isn't included yet
Oct 30 08:05:50 <morphis> will do a new stage today
Oct 30 08:17:55 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: thnx
Oct 30 13:48:37 <HaDAk> well guys.
Oct 30 13:48:50 <HaDAk> my touchpad is charged up and ready for me to clean off my old data in preparation for installing luneos
Oct 30 13:49:03 <HaDAk> and work looks to be slow enough that i'll be able to do just that today
Oct 30 13:49:07 <HaDAk> exciting times
Oct 30 13:51:21 <morphis> HaDAk: :)
Oct 30 13:51:46 <morphis> Herrie: I doubt that fix for firstuse work without us patching TextField to have the passphrase property :)
Oct 30 13:52:16 <HaDAk> gotta figure out how to unregister my ACL in case i want to use it again in the future
Oct 30 13:53:18 <morphis> Herrie: and I really want TextField instead of TextInput
Oct 30 13:53:25 <HaDAk> ah, there we go.
Oct 30 13:53:39 <morphis> Herrie: let me fix that later today
Oct 30 14:17:15 <HaDAk> well, this might be an issue. novaterm isn't working anymore.
Oct 30 14:19:38 <GodGinrai> that does sound like an issue
Oct 30 14:29:11 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: What's wrong with TextInput?
Oct 30 14:32:25 <HaDAk> aha. fixed novaterm.
Oct 30 14:32:33 <HaDAk> it doesn't like that i have two loopback addresses.
Oct 30 14:33:09 <HaDAk> ok, where are the current preware feeds being hosted? my repos are wildly out of date, and preware is no longer resolvable
Oct 30 14:44:29 <morphis> Herrie: doesn't have the qtquickcontrols styling etc.
Oct 30 14:44:46 <morphis> HaDAk: which preware feeds?
Oct 30 14:44:49 <morphis> for LuneOS?
Oct 30 14:45:06 <HaDAk> morphis: eh. don't worry about it. i was going to install tailor, but i'm just doing it by hand instead
Oct 30 14:54:57 <JaMa> Herrie: you need to use preware.net instead of preware.org
Oct 30 14:55:17 <JaMa> http://pivotce.com/2014/08/31/tip-preware-net-solutions-for-wosqi-preware-v1-9-13/
Oct 30 14:55:21 <HaDAk> thanks.
Oct 30 14:55:31 <HaDAk> i think i have bigger problems, since preware no longer loads after whatever i jsut did
Oct 30 14:55:37 <HaDAk> i'mi not that concerned though
Oct 30 14:55:44 <HaDAk> as soon as it boots lune, i'll be happy.
Oct 30 14:56:13 <HaDAk> i probably should have checked what was on my ext3 partition before deleting it though XD
Oct 30 14:57:19 <HaDAk> WHOOPS.
Oct 30 14:57:21 <HaDAk> so much for booting.
Oct 30 14:58:06 <HaDAk> and so much for novaterm
Oct 30 14:58:10 <HaDAk> well, i sure did fuck up my tp
Oct 30 14:59:11 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: Yeah that's true... QT should fix that. I worked around it in browser by using nasty BG images
Oct 30 14:59:27 <Herrie|Veer> Some of QT's stuff is not logical or intuitive...
Oct 30 14:59:54 <Herrie|Veer> HaDAk: TPToolbox and start from scratch?
Oct 30 14:59:58 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: I have a local patch to add the passwordCharacter property
Oct 30 15:00:12 <HaDAk> Herrie|Veer: not familiar. link?
Oct 30 15:00:25 <HaDAk> right now, i've got a /!\ logo with www.palm.com/ROm under it.
Oct 30 15:00:33 <HaDAk> i can't get novaterm, and it won't power off XD
Oct 30 15:01:40 <Herrie|Veer> TPToolbox on Google
Oct 30 15:01:48 <HaDAk> yeah, i found it.
Oct 30 15:01:50 <HaDAk> LMGTFY :(
Oct 30 15:02:00 <Herrie|Veer> Can basically factory reset your TP incl partitions etc :P
Oct 30 15:04:52 <HaDAk> this is a sweet util
Oct 30 15:11:46 <HaDAk> Sweet. Doctor's runnin.
Oct 30 15:11:53 <HaDAk> I even saw moboot for a bit there.
Oct 30 15:23:36 <HaDAk> i don't remember first boot taking THIS long though
Oct 30 15:24:25 <HaDAk> there we go
Oct 30 15:33:25 <morphis> ls
Oct 30 16:29:16 <DougReeder> Hey, in the Settings app, on the TP, there’s a list of categories on the left. Tapping on bnrings the controls for that category up on the right panel.  On the N4, initially there’s the list of categories, Tapping on one replaces the list with the concontrols for that category - but there doesn’t appear to be a way to get back to the list.
Oct 30 16:29:22 <DougReeder> Is that a known bug?
Oct 30 16:31:20 <morphis> DougReeder: yes,
Oct 30 16:31:26 <morphis> currently the back gesture is broken
Oct 30 16:31:38 <morphis> Tofe: is working on that
Oct 30 16:31:57 <DougReeder> Ah, we’re supposed to be able to make the back gesture on the virtual gesture area?
Oct 30 16:32:51 <Tofe> DougReeder: yes, it should work, but it's currently broken
Oct 30 16:33:04 <Tofe> I'm analyzing that
Oct 30 16:33:06 <morphis> Tofe: btw. the shellLoader.active toggle works
Oct 30 16:33:20 <Tofe> morphis: great ! it was quite a long shot :)
Oct 30 16:33:21 <morphis> or not
Oct 30 16:33:28 <Tofe> oh.
Oct 30 16:33:29 <morphis> for just type it works
Oct 30 16:33:32 <morphis> for others not
Oct 30 16:33:43 <morphis> but that is maybe because we're not handling just type window type in first use
Oct 30 16:33:59 <Tofe> yes, that's also my guess
Oct 30 16:34:20 <Tofe> and I guess you don't get any keyboard either
Oct 30 16:35:28 <morphis> yeah
Oct 30 16:35:30 <Tofe> morphis: has the tenderloin uImage been updated, lately ?
Oct 30 16:35:35 <morphis> no
Oct 30 16:35:42 <Tofe> ok, good, it's easier then
Oct 30 16:37:42 <morphis> but "Setting the value to inactive will cause any item loaded by the loader to be released, but will not affect the source or sourceComponent."
Oct 30 16:37:57 <morphis> so should work
Oct 30 16:38:04 <morphis> Tofe: feel free to look at this too
Oct 30 16:38:14 <Tofe> well, even changing source as we did should work
Oct 30 16:38:39 <Tofe> I think the connects are not pulled off
Oct 30 16:41:31 <Tofe> morphis: we are building against dizzy now, right ?
Oct 30 16:46:52 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: no still Daisy
Oct 30 16:47:04 <Tofe> oh, ok
Oct 30 16:47:08 <Herrie|Veer> Dizzy is for Black Tie (next release) afaik
Oct 30 16:47:27 <Tofe> but then it's what I need if I want to test the latest things :)
Oct 30 16:47:53 <Herrie|Veer> Yeah but that doesn't boot yet I think
Oct 30 16:48:20 <Tofe> oh.
Oct 30 16:48:23 <Herrie|Veer> JaMa was still sorting the QT 5.4 + Wayland upgrade I think ;)
Oct 30 16:48:41 <Tofe> ah, ok :) well fine, I'm staying with daisy
Oct 30 16:48:55 <Herrie|Veer> But sure morphis/JaMa can confirm current status :)
Oct 30 16:55:23 <JaMa> yes, that was correct
Oct 30 16:55:38 * JaMa waiting for morphis to rebase luna-next :)
Oct 30 17:08:27 <HaDAk> booting luneos
Oct 30 17:08:43 <HaDAk> allegedly.
Oct 30 17:09:08 <HaDAk> at least, i told it to. i don't know if it actually is or not. black screen.
Oct 30 17:10:04 <Herrie|Veer> N4 or TP? First boot can take a few mins
Oct 30 17:10:09 <HaDAk> TP
Oct 30 17:10:12 <Herrie|Veer> Subsequent are fast here in general
Oct 30 17:10:13 <HaDAk> It just came up
Oct 30 17:10:16 <HaDAk> first boot!
Oct 30 17:10:57 <HaDAk> fyi, it asks for a wifi passphrase for an insecure network.
Oct 30 17:11:12 <HaDAk> and won't let me bypass it.
Oct 30 17:11:21 <Herrie|Veer> Yeah known bug
Oct 30 17:11:25 <Herrie|Veer> This is new first use
Oct 30 17:11:38 <HaDAk> how do i get past this? :\
Oct 30 17:11:44 <HaDAk> I don't have any secure wifi networks to connect to
Oct 30 17:12:04 <HaDAk> i could maybe tether my phone...
Oct 30 17:12:56 <HaDAk> except there's no keyboard
Oct 30 17:13:04 <HaDAk> is there a trick to invoking it?
Oct 30 17:13:38 <HaDAk> ehh...lemme skip wifi for right now
Oct 30 17:13:47 <GodGinrai> HaDAk: spin around three times while chanting "Death to Apotheker"
Oct 30 17:14:03 <HaDAk> heh
Oct 30 17:14:11 <HaDAk> so many bugs. i just wanna fix them all.
Oct 30 17:14:15 <GodGinrai> usually works for me ;P
Oct 30 17:14:18 <HaDAk> also, adora's background image is still fugly as shit.
Oct 30 17:14:29 <HaDAk> please, for the love of god, let me provide a better background
Oct 30 17:14:34 <HaDAk> i AM a photographer, after all.
Oct 30 17:15:13 * GodGinrai wants to buy a N4 or something to test LuneOS on, but is too busy lately to consider doing it
Oct 30 17:16:06 <Herrie|Veer> HaDAk: This new first use was only created last weekend, morphis is already squeezing some bugs today :P
Oct 30 17:16:14 <HaDAk> :)
Oct 30 17:16:18 <HaDAk> ok, customer webex now.
Oct 30 17:25:48 <HaDAk> why isn't *my* keyboard loaded here?
Oct 30 17:26:54 <GodGinrai> HaDAk: because you didn't chant :P
Oct 30 17:27:08 <HaDAk> humpf
Oct 30 17:34:12 <HaDAk> how is the address book sorted? it seems random
Oct 30 17:34:27 <HaDAk> also, it doesn't appear to pull contact pictures. that makes me sad.
Oct 30 17:35:09 <HaDAk> favorites don't work properly. also, when i fav'd somebody, everybody else had their star starred
Oct 30 17:35:18 <HaDAk> but flipping to the favorites pane doesn't show anybody
Oct 30 17:36:02 <HaDAk> ok, i'll stop now. it's time to just play with it for a while.
Oct 30 17:36:30 <HaDAk> looks like the  sync is currently running. i see contact pictures in the file manager.
Oct 30 17:42:56 <DougReeder> So, after installing LuneOS on a Nexus 4, I can’t boot to Android (without reinstalling it) ?
Oct 30 17:44:09 <GodGinrai> That's the general idea, I believe
Oct 30 17:47:26 <HaDAk> hum. date and time prefs don't do much. also, i can't change the time zone.
Oct 30 17:56:23 <DougReeder> I did a ‘make update’ in webos-ports-env, followed by ‘MACHINE=mako bb webos-ports-dev-package’ in webos-ports, but the build does not appear to have pulled in the latest changes from GitHub.
Oct 30 17:58:57 <DougReeder> Should I have done something after removing this line from local.conf: S_pn-enyo-1.0 = "/home/doug/luneos/enyo-1.0"
Oct 30 18:00:05 <DougReeder> Should I have done ‘MACHINE=mako bb -c cleansstate enyo-1.0’ ?
Oct 30 18:05:45 <DougReeder> I tried that, but webos-ports-dev-package-mako.zip wasn’t updated
Oct 30 18:19:35 <Tofe> DougReeder: usually I do it in 4 steps
Oct 30 18:19:59 <Tofe> DougReeder: first, I go to webos-ports-env/common and do a "git pull"
Oct 30 18:20:13 <Tofe> Then, go back to webos-ports-env and do a make update-conffiles
Oct 30 18:20:17 <Tofe> then make update
Oct 30 18:20:37 <Tofe> and then in webos-ports I start bitbake
Oct 30 18:20:42 <DougReeder> That git pull tells me “already up-to-date”
Oct 30 18:22:09 <Tofe> the make update-conffiles should do the difference
Oct 30 18:25:18 <DougReeder> I just did those four steps and webos-ports-dev-package-mako.zip didn’t change.
Oct 30 18:26:06 <DougReeder> The build step returned: Tasks Summary: Attempted 5363 tasks of which 5363 didn't need to be rerun
Oct 30 18:26:24 <DougReeder> So, what’s the equivalent of “make clean”
Oct 30 18:29:59 <Tofe> well, you really want to rebuild everything ?
Oct 30 18:30:42 <Tofe> then you remove tmp-eglibc and sstate, and relaunch bb. But you're in for several hours, then.
Oct 30 18:31:35 <Tofe> ah sorry I missed an important part of your messages
Oct 30 18:32:18 <Tofe> please do a "bb -f -c clean enyo"
Oct 30 18:32:25 <Tofe> and then restart bb as usual
Oct 30 18:33:16 <Tofe> maybe even a cleansstate instead of clean would be better.
Oct 30 18:37:22 <GodGinrai> bb?
Oct 30 18:41:26 <DougReeder> Ok
Oct 30 18:43:16 <DougReeder> okay, ‘MACHINE=mako bb -f -c clean enyo-1.0’ ran a task, which suceeded.
Oct 30 18:47:54 <DougReeder> The regular build command reports: Tasks Summary: Attempted 5363 tasks of which 5362 didn't need to be rerun and all succeeded.
Oct 30 18:48:17 <DougReeder> … and webos-ports-dev-package-mako.zip is unchanged
Oct 30 18:49:12 <Herrie> HaDAk: Contacts app is rewrite in Enyo 2 and still needs lots of TLC
Oct 30 18:49:21 <Herrie> Sync in general works because it's back end stuff
Oct 30 18:49:27 <HaDAk> Herrie: most things here need lots of TLC. :)
Oct 30 18:49:29 <Herrie> We just need more TLC for front end UI ;)
Oct 30 18:49:50 <Herrie> Timezone should work in future with oFono, most likely will become part of first use
Oct 30 18:50:50 <HaDAk> Herrie: what about my keyboard modifications?
Oct 30 18:54:43 <DougReeder> I’ve nuked tmp-eglibc and sstate-cache, we’ll see how long the rebuild takes
Oct 30 19:13:22 <Herrie> HaDAk: Tofe/morphis can answer that. I think it's still there, just disabled for now
Oct 30 19:13:25 <Herrie> There were some bugs
Oct 30 19:13:30 <HaDAk> oh
Oct 30 19:13:35 <Herrie> Current one is ugly but less buggy
Oct 30 19:13:40 <Herrie> I think we can revisit it soon
Oct 30 19:13:44 <HaDAk> ok
Oct 30 19:13:52 <HaDAk> bugs with stuff i did, or otherwise?
Oct 30 19:13:54 <Herrie> We'll be doing a big upgrade from QT 5.2 to 5.4 and also QTWayland etc
Oct 30 19:14:07 <Herrie> More on how the keyboard is dealt with in the cardshell
Oct 30 19:14:17 <Herrie> You might have noticed the key popup on top row is cut off
Oct 30 19:14:24 <HaDAk> i did notice
Oct 30 19:14:26 <Herrie> Tofe can tell you more about it
Oct 30 19:14:38 <Herrie> It's how the keyboard is plugged in that needs some TLC I think
Oct 30 19:14:51 <HaDAk> gotcha
Oct 30 20:38:56 <GranPC> heya
Oct 30 20:39:04 <GranPC> i'm messing around with building & porting webos a bit
Oct 30 20:39:13 <GranPC> i ran into these errors: http://paste2.org/LWDO074Z
Oct 30 20:39:26 <GranPC> anyone seen these before?
Oct 30 20:58:33 <DougReeder> Hey, is there a VirtualBox or Ubuntu setting to keep the host machine awake if the guest VM is busy compiling?
Oct 30 21:02:41 <Tofe> DougReeder: wouldn't it be a setting of the host OS ?
Oct 30 21:03:11 <DougReeder> I find either plausible.
Oct 30 21:03:45 <DougReeder> I’ll just set my Mac to never sleep while it’s plugged in; that ought to do.
Oct 30 21:04:00 <Tofe> yes, seems to be the easiest way
Oct 30 21:10:50 <DougReeder> On a “clean” rebuild, I get the warning: QA Issue: org.webosports.app.firstuse-dbg: found library in wrong location: /usr/palm/applications/org.webosports.app.firstuse/firstuse/.debug/libfirstuse.so
Oct 30 21:27:12 <Tofe> DougReeder: that's nothing worrying, just a missing line in the bb recipe of that app; it won't prevent the build. But that's good to know.
Oct 30 21:32:40 <DougReeder> In my “clean” build, I’m not picking up the fix to Enyo 1.
Oct 30 21:33:51 <DougReeder> Has anyone pulled from GitHub in the last 13 hours, and had the Enyo-1 fix be there in your build?
Oct 30 21:41:00 <Herrie> DougReeder: meta-webos-ports would need to be updated first
Oct 30 21:41:33 <DougReeder> What would that involve?
Oct 30 21:41:53 <Herrie> Let me have a look
Oct 30 21:46:38 <Herrie> DougReeder: https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/pull/65
Oct 30 21:46:57 <Herrie> Basically updating the recipe to take your latest commit :)
Oct 30 21:47:16 <Herrie> once morphis merges it, I believe it will automatically make it into the build :)
Oct 30 21:48:20 <Herrie> Tofe|Away: Just thinking out loud here: Does InverseMouseArea give some solution to the VKB issue we had before as well, which caused you to hide the "overlay" for the top row? I recall you said something that's related to this?
Oct 31 02:06:55 <DougReeder_> I completely deleted webos-ports-env, started fresh, and got this error: ERROR: Fetcher failure: Unable to find file file://3e/sstate:qtwebkit:armv7a-vfp-neon-webos-linux-gnueabi:5.2.1
Oct 31 02:41:08 <DougReeder_> Running make update agian and building again did no encounter that error.
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