**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 18 02:59:59 2014 Nov 18 03:22:03 yo Nov 18 03:36:54 ping Nov 18 03:40:23 pong? Nov 18 03:42:00 4minutes. not bad. Nov 18 03:42:01 :-) Nov 18 03:42:40 Sorry Nov 18 03:42:59 struggling with my nexus 5 and life decisions lol Nov 18 03:43:17 I was asked to be a brewmaster, which is a dream job. And a pay cut. Nov 18 03:43:39 I would have to avoid that, I'd quickly become an alcoholic. Nov 18 03:43:57 Well I already brew beer and have several kegs full of the stuff so... Nov 18 06:12:35 morphis: 4.4.4 seems to work fine :D Nov 18 06:33:11 Herrie: cool :) Nov 18 06:42:47 morphis: Wifi works on 4G TP :) Nov 18 06:43:00 yeah! Nov 18 06:43:03 Just settings crashed when I enter password. I guess it runs out of memory Nov 18 06:43:16 Because html5test.com gives me reboot as well, while it's fine on N4 Nov 18 06:43:59 * EricBlade returns Nov 18 06:44:05 Wifi pw doesn't seem to save on TP4G either Nov 18 06:44:08 It rebooted and PW gone Nov 18 06:44:18 hm Nov 18 06:44:29 Herrie: can you check wether something is mounted on /var? Nov 18 06:44:44 EricBlade: For TP4G: Nightly build supports it now :) http://build.webos-ports.org/luneos-testing/images/tenderloin/ Nov 18 06:44:44 and please compare the MAC addr before and after reboot of the wlan0 device Nov 18 06:44:54 ... did we get the tp4g working? does that mean i just wasted $100 buying another touchpad... o.O Nov 18 06:45:29 EricBlade: Yeah morphis did some magic :D Nov 18 06:45:40 thank jscullins Nov 18 06:45:46 dammit. now why do i need this other touchpad.... Nov 18 06:45:47 I just using his kernel tree now Nov 18 06:45:53 :D Nov 18 06:46:16 i had a feeling that was probably enough to do it, but... well, i'm trying to take on even more work things now .. so.. yeah. Nov 18 06:46:25 but i'm getting better at my time management overall Nov 18 06:46:35 That's good, can use some of that LOL Nov 18 06:47:28 Between promotion at work and the little one, I have little free time nowadays ;) Nov 18 06:47:36 did nothing else for that Nov 18 06:47:50 babies destroy lives. :| Nov 18 06:48:57 i know, in the last year i graduated 3 from teenagers to "moved the hell out of my house" :-D Nov 18 06:49:26 2 more to go Nov 18 06:50:02 LOL ;) It's a lot of fun but the mrs is having a harder time then me, so need to cover for her often :P Nov 18 06:50:24 i didn't get to actually deal with any of them as babies.. met them all at age 5+ Nov 18 06:50:46 Ah ;) Nov 18 06:50:57 Well this one I can form a bit still I hope :P Nov 18 06:51:17 Good trooper so far :P Nov 18 06:51:28 well if Herrie is shaping our youth... we're doomed. :| Nov 18 06:51:30 (jk) Nov 18 10:21:47 morphis: merged. Note that you can forward-reference a symbol in QML, no need to move it before where the id is used Nov 18 12:14:00 morning Nov 18 12:14:03 Tofe: ping Nov 18 12:28:02 Herrie|Veer: pong Nov 18 12:28:29 I updated bug 649 Nov 18 12:29:04 Seems Enyo 1/2 apps don't run after First Use, but OK after reboot. I expect they're related and both have to do with focussing somehow Nov 18 12:32:18 morphis: Saw Jolla guys managed to get N5 ported, is that any help for us? Nov 18 12:36:22 Herrie|Veer: for the Sailfish port, it means that libhybris is ready to be used on that device, at least for the core functions (graphics & wifi I guess). However there could be some challenges where we are on our own, like for QtWayland 5.4 and the compositing. Nov 18 12:37:09 Herrie|Veer: I'll look at #649, but it's weird that we still have differences between first use and the rest of the usage Nov 18 12:43:39 Tofe: Has to do with QML First Use. QML apps like browser and phone work OK after first use Nov 18 12:43:43 Enyo ones don't. Nov 18 12:43:55 With Enyo First Use they did work OK Nov 18 12:44:04 So must be something in LNC somewhere Nov 18 12:49:52 Ok, maybe there is some intiialization missing with the WebAppManager for LunaSysManager Nov 18 12:50:37 Could be.. We also still have general Enyo apps not displaying but seeming to start according to journalctl Nov 18 12:51:00 I suspect they're related but don't have to be of course Nov 18 12:52:54 Yes, I'm still a noob with debugging issues related to Enyo :p Nov 18 14:03:54 Hey guys I installed the build (11/17) and iam not able to get WIFI up on the touchPad now Nov 18 14:10:23 Cobblemonster: We switched kernel so wifi on 4G TP is now working as well. Nov 18 14:10:32 Make sure to update the uImage ;) Nov 18 14:10:46 What error are you getting? Nov 18 14:10:58 OH ! that i did not do OK Nov 18 14:11:05 My 4G TP took a few attempts in Settings too (app was closing) Nov 18 14:11:17 Thanks Nov 18 14:11:21 My wifi TP is pending repair so cannot test there :P Nov 18 14:12:11 4G TP... that's something i might actually use Nov 18 14:14:03 PatrickC: Only WiFi working for now ;) You might be able to get data working when you manually set stuff via ConnMan via command line but didn't test that yet Nov 18 14:14:08 No UI stuff for this yet Nov 18 14:14:22 APN settings I mean Nov 18 14:33:05 ah Nov 18 15:45:35 In English, organization names that start with “A”, “An” or “The” should also be indexed without them. Does anyone have a parallel reference for other languages? Nov 18 15:51:35 eh? Nov 18 15:53:34 The organiztion “The Bank of America” should also be searchable under “Bank of America”. Nov 18 15:54:01 Presumably, there are similar rules for other languages. Nov 18 15:54:37 DougReeder: No, it should be searchable under one or the other, not both Nov 18 15:55:12 It’s *stored* only one way, but it should be searchable under both. Nov 18 15:55:28 No, it still shouldn't be searchable under both Nov 18 15:55:57 Why not? Nov 18 15:56:01 "The" isn't typically considered part of the name if I'm not mistaken Nov 18 15:56:17 A single entity should not be in 2 places at the same time, even visually Nov 18 15:56:48 It is better to have the 2 methods of display be choices made by the user Nov 18 15:56:55 We’re not talking about displaying it twice. Nov 18 15:56:58 1) Search by "The ____" Nov 18 15:57:07 2) Search by "____, The" Nov 18 15:57:35 DougReeder: Then what are you talking about? Nov 18 15:58:21 If a user knows two people at BOA, it’s quite possible he entered one as “The Bank of America” and the other as Nov 18 15:58:24 “Bank of America”. Nov 18 15:58:48 Yeah but Bank of America is the only name it has... A better example might be The Linux Foundation Nov 18 15:58:56 Later, if he types “Bank of America” in the search field, he should see both results Nov 18 15:59:14 Organization wise, it's officailly Linux Foundation, but most stuff refers to it as The Linux Foundation Nov 18 15:59:21 If he types “The Bank of America”, he should see both contacts. Nov 18 16:00:01 DougReeder: ehhh... Search should just be string matching. if you search "bank", you should get both Nov 18 16:06:23 DougReeder: aren't you just talking about articles ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_%28grammar%29#Variation_among_languages Nov 18 16:07:21 Yeah, that was what I was looking for. Nov 18 16:08:38 It appears webOS indexes every word, including “the” Nov 18 16:11:13 It seems wrong to me to index the word “the”, but I’m willing to defer to a company with over a decade of experience writing PIM apps. Nov 18 16:30:05 Would there be any objects to me fixing a typo on the wiki? In the porting guide to be more specific Nov 18 16:30:15 objections, damn need more coffee this morning Nov 18 16:37:57 Please do. Nov 18 16:38:40 We have no scheduled review of the wiki, so we depend on people fixing errors when they find them. Nov 18 16:39:37 i spent an hour this morning troubleshooting my nexus 5 build and it was because i did a copy/paste that had a typo in it Nov 18 16:39:50 well that and a lack of coffee which i'm going to rememdy now Nov 18 17:36:48 thrrgilag: so you got it working? Nov 18 17:36:53 Tofe: ping Nov 18 17:38:11 morphis: i got my build all borked up when mucking about, i'm in the middle of doing a clean build from scratch at the moment Nov 18 17:38:20 ah ok **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Nov 19 02:59:59 2014