**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 21 02:59:58 2014
Nov 21 03:42:43 <LarrySteeze> EricBlade: are you around?
Nov 21 03:43:09 <LarrySteeze> I need to bounce some bluetooth stack q's off someone
Nov 21 08:13:59 <Herrie|Veer> morning
Nov 21 08:51:22 <Garfonso> morning
Nov 21 09:17:17 <Tofe> morning
Nov 21 10:38:00 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: ping
Nov 21 10:38:42 <Herrie|Veer> Got some people with Grouper and Maguro to test. 9-nov is correct build? Any requirements for Android version for these 2 devices?
Nov 21 11:49:06 <morphis> Herrie: just 4.2
Nov 21 11:49:14 <morphis> will test my maguro soon too
Nov 21 11:49:47 <Tofe> morphis: btw, I'm on 4.2 on mako since weeks, and no problem with dizzy
Nov 21 11:50:16 <morphis> Tofe: very good
Nov 21 11:50:21 <Tofe> I'm going to switch to 4.4 to see if all goes as well
Nov 21 11:50:22 <morphis> Tofe: but you can flash 4.4.4 too
Nov 21 12:31:20 <morphis> Tofe: how far are you with the keyboard changes?
Nov 21 12:54:38 <Tofe> morphis: slow progress; integrating the setMask commit when smoothly, though I had to merge it myself. But it doesn't help that much in the sense that it doesn't help differentiating the window size (or mask) and the vkbd inputarea
Nov 21 12:55:11 <Tofe> So I'm now investigating other ways of doing that "separation"
Nov 21 12:59:43 <morphis> Tofe: ok
Nov 21 12:59:45 <morphis> Tofe: what is with the first use integration into the cardshell?
Nov 21 12:59:47 <morphis> Herrie: ping
Nov 21 13:00:09 <Tofe> morphis: didn't have the time to test on device yet, but I'll do that tonight
Nov 21 13:05:29 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: pong
Nov 21 13:06:19 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: can you try a connmanctl enable cellular?
Nov 21 13:06:35 <Herrie|Veer> Ah my 4G is at home
Nov 21 13:07:07 <Herrie|Veer> This is with the Ericsson right because it didn't show cellular in the connmanctl services?
Nov 21 13:07:16 <Herrie|Veer> The Sierra did show the cellular
Nov 21 13:07:34 <Herrie|Veer> Will be home around 16:00 to test :)
Nov 21 13:09:36 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: you tried that with the ofono version I gave you yesterday?
Nov 21 13:14:21 <Herrie|Veer> No
Nov 21 13:14:40 <Herrie|Veer> But with Sierra it gave cellular automatically while with Ericsson not
Nov 21 13:15:05 <Herrie|Veer> but I did have the mbm_0 in mdbus2 after new ofono version
Nov 21 13:15:15 <Herrie|Veer> That wasn't there before with Ericsson
Nov 21 13:54:16 * DougReeder waves good morning
Nov 21 14:12:06 <morphis> DougReeder: morning
Nov 21 14:38:53 <thrrgilag> good morning all, got a question about the boot sequence if there is anyone around who might be able to answer or at least point me in a general direction
Nov 21 14:40:01 <morphis> thrrgilag: just ask :)
Nov 21 14:42:26 <thrrgilag> at what point should adb be coming up and accepting connections via usb?
Nov 21 15:07:05 <Tofe> Isn't adb builtin into the kernel ?
Nov 21 15:07:22 <Tofe> or maybe it's just the protocol. So, I don't know :)
Nov 21 15:08:20 <thrrgilag> could be, i'm not that familiar with the android tidbits
Nov 21 15:09:22 <thrrgilag> so actually my kernel still needs work, i have something booting but i had to build the kernel by hand, the one built by oe won't boot
Nov 21 15:10:20 <thrrgilag> and actually now that I'm thinking about it, it's the zImage-dtb that boots...  hmm.....
Nov 21 15:27:39 <Herrie> morphis: TP4G with Ericsson f5521GW: https://bpaste.net/show/706b04fe509c
Nov 21 15:28:41 <Herrie> And: https://bpaste.net/show/52e810156cac
Nov 21 15:38:17 <thrrgilag> oh i think i found it
Nov 21 15:38:48 <thrrgilag> /etc/systemd/system/basic.target.wants/android-tools-adbd.service
Nov 21 15:38:50 <thrrgilag> duh
Nov 21 15:41:19 <thrrgilag> or not
Nov 21 15:41:19 <thrrgilag> wtf
Nov 21 16:24:00 <morphis> thrrgilag: right, android-tools-adbd is what you need to get adb working
Nov 21 16:25:29 <morphis> thrrgilag: you have a serial console for the n5?
Nov 21 16:27:16 <thrrgilag> nope, i'm doing this ghetto style, force rebooting to recovery and pull /proc/last_kmsg
Nov 21 16:27:20 <thrrgilag> i feel like a caveman
Nov 21 16:27:34 <morphis> ah
Nov 21 16:27:47 <morphis> can you paste the output somewhere?
Nov 21 16:28:33 <thrrgilag> sure, is pastebin is what all the cool kids are using these days?
Nov 21 16:29:20 <morphis> what ever you like :)
Nov 21 16:32:54 <thrrgilag> http://pastebin.com/zNR77bUj
Nov 21 16:33:11 <thrrgilag> basically the file was missing so i just slapped one in...
Nov 21 16:33:24 <thrrgilag> looks like now it's a matter of it firing before /system is mounted
Nov 21 16:33:29 <thrrgilag> was just about to tweak that
Nov 21 16:34:03 <thrrgilag> i suspect i'm missing a lot of other bits too
Nov 21 16:34:18 <morphis> thrrgilag: can you push your change somewhere?
Nov 21 16:34:32 <morphis> [   33.211250] systemd[934]: Failed at step EXEC spawning /usr/bin/adbd: No such file or directory
Nov 21 16:34:54 <thrrgilag> yep, then you see it mount /system after it gives up
Nov 21 16:36:11 <thrrgilag> give me a bit to gather my pieces to meta-smartphone and i'll push it up to my github, i've got a few things scattered
Nov 21 16:36:44 <thrrgilag> i think i need to update the kernel target to build zImage-dtb as well since i'm doing that by hand
Nov 21 16:44:39 <Herrie> morphis: Saw my output?
Nov 21 17:01:56 <morphis> Herrie: yes
Nov 21 17:04:01 <morphis> Herrie: http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/ofono/ofono.20110712.txt looks interesting
Nov 21 17:04:13 <morphis> Herrie: can you give me the output when running ofonod?
Nov 21 17:09:39 <Herrie> morphis: http://pastebin.com/KriJEmyT
Nov 21 17:09:44 <Herrie> This is with -p ril
Nov 21 17:13:08 <morphis> Herrie: -p or -P?
Nov 21 17:13:41 <morphis> ah -P
Nov 21 17:15:55 <morphis> Herrie: looks like we have to experiment with the serial settings a bit
Nov 21 17:16:13 <morphis> Herrie: however the sierra or erriconson was the default one? sorry forgot that ..
Nov 21 17:16:54 <Herrie> Seems all TP4G's were sold with Ericsson
Nov 21 17:17:12 <Herrie> However some Go's and DVT/EVT versions had a Sierra MC7700 (US 4G/LTE card) in it instead
Nov 21 17:17:18 <Herrie> Both are supported by legacy 3.0.x
Nov 21 17:17:56 <morphis> ok
Nov 21 17:18:04 <Herrie> I have a Sierra MC7710 (EU 4G/LTE card) that I can use in TP4G and TP Go :)
Nov 21 17:18:10 <morphis> so ericsson is our main target
Nov 21 17:18:21 <Herrie> Just needed to patch a few bytes in binary to get it to be recognized
Nov 21 17:18:32 <morphis> which bytes?
Nov 21 17:19:00 <Herrie> That's on legacy, it basically had hardcoded check for MC7700, I changed that to MC7710 so the card works on legacy
Nov 21 17:19:10 <Herrie> Should be no worry for us, since oFono supports it anyway
Nov 21 17:19:44 <Herrie> In legacy: /usr/bin/PmModemQxdmLogger and /usr/lib/libTelephonyInterfaceLayer.so
Nov 21 17:20:37 <Herrie> Just to give you an idea of the benefits of proper 4G on the TP: http://pivotce.com/2014/01/27/the-search-for-real-4g-on-the-touchpad/
Nov 21 17:27:55 <morphis> Herrie: hm, a normal touchpad can't be reworked to include a modem, right?
Nov 21 17:30:18 <Herrie> morphis: No it misses the circuitry....
Nov 21 17:30:26 <Herrie> Would be good if it could...
Nov 21 17:30:27 <morphis> ok
Nov 21 17:30:36 <Herrie> But some people tried but without luck
Nov 21 17:30:40 <morphis> for the GO we never saw kernel sources, right?
Nov 21 17:31:02 <Herrie> No, but it's quite similar to regular 4G TP so I doubt we'd need much tweaking...
Nov 21 17:31:16 <Herrie> It tried flashing the uImage but got boot loop (expected of course)
Nov 21 17:31:30 <Herrie> Hardware wise there's little difference I'm quite sure, same soc etc
Nov 21 17:31:42 <morphis> maybe jcsullins knows more details
Nov 21 17:31:49 <morphis> JaMa: ping
Nov 21 17:31:50 <Herrie> You have Go with Ericsson? Or ... ?
Nov 21 17:31:53 <Herrie> No 4G TP?
Nov 21 17:32:03 <morphis> I have a GO flying around here
Nov 21 17:32:06 <Herrie> jcsullins or NewbyJE should go ;)
Nov 21 17:32:08 <morphis> never looked what it has
Nov 21 17:32:14 <Herrie> A Wifi or data one?
Nov 21 17:32:20 <morphis> not sure
Nov 21 17:32:40 <morphis> have to find it first
Nov 21 17:32:42 <Herrie> Got different ones here.. Wifi ones have dedicated GPS module (half size card)
Nov 21 17:32:52 <Herrie> All 3G ones I saw have Ericsson
Nov 21 17:32:59 <Herrie> But I know some people had with Sierra inside
Nov 21 17:34:24 <Herrie> I've had < 10 here, so just a small reference sample from my side
Nov 21 17:38:32 <Herrie> Seems it has ar6000 module
Nov 21 17:38:38 <Herrie> lsmod
Nov 21 17:39:36 <morphis> ok
Nov 21 17:39:54 <Herrie> modinfo: http://pastebin.com/0YT70JA8
Nov 21 17:40:56 <morphis> looks like we have to change the support for the ericsson a bit in ofono
Nov 21 17:41:36 <Herrie> proc/config.gz: http://pastebin.com/ZE9eYciy
Nov 21 17:41:50 <Herrie> The Sierra seems to work better "out of the box" currently
Nov 21 17:41:56 <Herrie> At least shows up in connman :)
Nov 21 17:45:31 <JaMa> morphis: pong
Nov 21 17:51:44 <morphis> Herrie: that seems to be because the ericsson is more picky about its serial settings
Nov 21 17:52:04 <morphis> JaMa: as we're adding support for the touchpad with 4g support I am currently thinking about adding either another machine for it
Nov 21 17:52:18 <morphis> or just do autodetection
Nov 21 17:52:20 <morphis> at runtime
Nov 21 17:52:34 <morphis> the only difference for us is its telephony support
Nov 21 17:52:40 <morphis> JaMa: what would you prefer?
Nov 21 17:59:05 <morphis> Herrie: can you do a nyx-cmd DeviceInfo query modem_present on the device?
Nov 21 18:10:15 <JaMa> runtime autodetection for sure
Nov 21 18:11:11 <JaMa> if we can use the same kernel and image etc on both devices it would be great
Nov 21 18:14:49 <morphis> ok
Nov 21 18:14:55 <morphis> prefer the same
Nov 21 18:14:59 <morphis> just wanted to check with somebody
Nov 21 18:16:04 <Herrie> morphis: false
Nov 21 18:18:35 <morphis> Herrie: ok
Nov 21 18:22:07 <thrrgilag> morphis: in pulling together my changes for the N5 i noticed my oe build was incomplete so i'm going to make sure and get that straightened out.  question though, am i okay to be using testing or should i be doing the port against a different branch?
Nov 21 18:26:21 <morphis> thrrgilag: no, use testing
Nov 21 18:34:22 <thrrgilag> yeah wow, lxc was missing, clearly that isn't going to work.  upshot is i'm begining to understand how this stuff works
Nov 21 18:42:50 <morphis> thrrgilag: so it's booting now and gives you lxc?
Nov 21 18:43:05 <morphis> s/lxc/adb/
Nov 21 18:44:06 <thrrgilag> no, was went back and tore apart my generated packages and i'm seeing the android pieces missing actually
Nov 21 18:45:01 <thrrgilag> i'm digging through the oe setup now to find where it's missing things
Nov 21 18:46:46 <morphis> ok
Nov 21 18:47:49 <Tofe> morphis: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/pull/146 works like a charm
Nov 21 18:48:08 <Tofe> (after many bugfixes, of course :) )
Nov 21 18:48:20 <morphis> Tofe: yeah
Nov 21 18:49:11 <morphis> merged
Nov 21 19:21:17 <morphis> Tofe: nice work
Nov 21 19:21:58 <morphis> Tofe: one other small thing: when we open the launcher and the system menu is open we should close it
Nov 21 19:23:12 <Tofe> ok, will do that
Nov 21 19:27:19 <Tofe> the system menu close and toggle functions are really weird
Nov 21 19:28:46 <morphis> yeah
Nov 21 19:28:51 <morphis> feel free to rework that :)
Nov 21 19:30:54 <Tofe> first things first: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/pull/147
Nov 21 19:57:20 <morphis> Tofe: will submit those things this weekend
Nov 21 19:58:04 <morphis> Tofe: what we need to work on soon is getting the support for the different window types fixed
Nov 21 19:58:09 <morphis> popup, dashboard, ..
Nov 21 20:00:21 <morphis> Herrie: I will include the necessary things soon, also I suspect the context provisioning doesn't work for both modem types yet
Nov 21 20:01:45 <Herrie> morphis: Great ready to test
Nov 21 20:01:54 <Herrie> I asked Benjamin to work on the system menu graphics
Nov 21 20:02:03 <Herrie> Isandunk had some WIP but those were never done
Nov 21 20:02:15 <Herrie> So we need some higher res for brightness, airplane, etc
Nov 21 20:07:10 <morphis> Herrie: good idea
Nov 21 20:07:18 <morphis> one thing we need to sort soon is the different scaled images
Nov 21 20:07:29 <morphis> to not have the need to rescale anyhting at runtime
Nov 21 20:15:22 <Herrie> Like which ones?
Nov 21 20:29:58 <morphis> I am not sure but I am sure we do that
Nov 21 20:43:35 <Herrie> In browser we don't ;) I split those up in general so they don't strech/scale really
Nov 21 20:43:44 <Herrie> I noticed the buttons in power menu on TP look odd
Nov 21 20:43:53 <Herrie> So those could use splitting up I guess
Nov 21 20:44:25 <Herrie> Was looking at the first use bug with button today, seems to be due to "connected" didn't sort it yet, but quite sure I can figure something out
Nov 21 20:46:29 <Herrie> The qtwebkit fix will solve what kind of issues?
Nov 21 20:56:52 <Herrie> morphis: BTW Communities seems to work now on N4 :)
Nov 21 20:57:00 <Herrie> Not sure what changed, but it started to work all of the sudden :D
Nov 21 20:57:12 <Herrie> Can almost use the tablet as my daily driver LOL
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