**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 08 02:59:59 2015 Jan 08 04:25:49 So, I've read and understand the rules, and I was trying to install LuneOS on my Touchpad and everything was going well and I finished all the steps. Then, when I rebooted, it shows "www.palm.com/ROM" Jan 08 04:26:22 Can anyone help? Jan 08 04:26:41 I don't know how I'm supposed to boot into LuneOS Jan 08 04:28:01 I’m not expert at that... Jan 08 04:28:26 … but I’d try reinstallation. Jan 08 04:29:03 So, was I supposed to have installed something like was done with CM11 to be able to choose an option at boot up Jan 08 04:29:04 ? Jan 08 04:29:09 … from “Install the kernel” Jan 08 04:29:15 ok Jan 08 04:29:31 Yes, Moboot Jan 08 04:30:09 You might first check tour /boot directory against the screen shot. Jan 08 04:30:20 Any idea how to get past the ROM screen to boot into webOS? Jan 08 04:31:26 If you’r not getting the menu where you select the OS to boot, focus on Moboot that the uImage* files. Jan 08 04:32:12 Ok, but I can't even boot into webOS to use novaterm Jan 08 04:32:52 Ah, then re-doctor your TP. Jan 08 04:34:29 Dang...ok I'll retry it then Jan 08 04:35:26 When going through the steps again, double-check what you’ve got in the /boot directory before booting away from webOS. Jan 08 04:37:24 Hey, Enyo 2.5.1.1 is out. Anyone who updated a built-in app to 2.5.1, please update again. Jan 08 04:37:45 I’m not sure how many of the bugs we’re facing were fixed. Jan 08 04:41:03 Alright Jan 08 06:01:14 Ah, Release Notes for 2.5.1.1 are out, at the bottom of http://enyojs.com/docs/latest/developer-guide/release-notes/release-2.5.1.html Jan 08 06:02:05 I use parse() in the Contacts app, and it’s likely to be used in other data-driven apps. Jan 08 06:03:05 But it appears to only fix enyo.Model.parse() and onyx.ContextualPopup. Jan 08 06:27:06 DougReeder: The issues we seem to have are with the luna-webappmanager handling the focus Jan 08 06:27:22 When I run the same app in the browser it works fine via gh-pages branch Jan 08 06:27:32 * DougReeder nods Jan 08 06:27:44 I'll try 2.5.1.1 anyway though, maybe it mysteriously fixes it Jan 08 06:28:12 * DougReeder shrugs. “Worth a try, and probably can’t hurt” Jan 08 06:28:15 Enyo Sampler also works OK in browser, so really makes me believe it's our code that's the culprit... Jan 08 06:28:29 Will just take testr app for testing :) Jan 08 06:28:38 Checking teh GPS bits Jan 08 06:29:26 I’m trying 2.5.1.1. with Contacts, as it has a fix for ontap in DataRepeaters, where I’m having problems. Jan 08 06:30:20 … but enyo.store.addSources() was removed in 2.5, and I’m not sure what the replacement is. Jan 08 06:34:14 DougReeder: SAme issue on 2.5.1.1 Jan 08 06:35:52 I’m not surprised. Jan 08 06:36:47 I’d do a git pull anyway, 2.5.1.1 does have those bug fixes, and it may be awhile before the next release. Jan 08 06:36:56 Er, pull request. Jan 08 08:18:04 morphis: not sure I understood what property binding you'd like to have Jan 08 08:18:12 morning btw! Jan 08 08:44:44 test Jan 08 08:45:03 Tofe: Looking into airplane mode stuffs now: I need to figure out if airplane mode is enabled (status) both from Alerts/PowerMenu.qml and from StatusBar/SystemMenu/AirplaneModeElement. I can do 2 different luna calls but I run into problems where when I e Jan 08 08:45:21 nable airplane mode from powermenu it's not reflected in the system menu and the other way around. How to fix this best? Jan 08 09:03:29 Herrie|Veer: I don't know these files that well, but aren't we called on a LS2 callback as soon as the airplane mode is changed ? Jan 08 09:05:22 That each qml file does his own LS2 call seems correct to me; but they should also subscribe to the airplane mode change Jan 08 09:14:07 Yeah I can subscribe, that's no problem, but it feels wrong to me to subscribe twice for the same thing :P Jan 08 09:14:31 I thought you might have a more elegant way :P Jan 08 09:45:55 Herrie: well, it's two different objects here, and if we don't do that this way, it means we'll have to do it through QML/js binding, which is IMHO a too tight coupling for these two elements of luna-next UI Jan 08 10:04:03 morphis: Tofe: testing rebuilds finished, testing buildhistory and images now, but dizzy branch is again opened for dev Jan 08 10:11:30 JaMa: great: Jan 08 10:11:33 great! Jan 08 11:43:53 JaMa: great Jan 08 11:44:10 Tofe: the problem is that the window property with the parentWinId might be set when the window is already added to the window model Jan 08 11:44:34 either we defer that until the property is set or we wait on the property change signal Jan 08 11:54:20 morphis: ok, so we'll add a possibility to manage a reparenting of a window Jan 08 11:55:11 either that or we add a order for the window properties Jan 08 11:55:35 an order ? How would that help? Jan 08 11:56:02 I mean, putting a window in a window model isn't the consequence of a window property Jan 08 11:56:12 right Jan 08 11:56:18 it would be just an workaround Jan 08 11:56:29 ah ok Jan 08 11:56:39 no, let's do the real thing, it won't be that hard Jan 08 11:56:56 right now we already have the problem that we need the window type for putting the window into the model Jan 08 11:58:31 Tofe: btw. what I am currently doing is that I am moving the window splash screen from the client to the compositor Jan 08 11:58:52 window is now already added to the model when it is created Jan 08 11:58:56 and not when mapped Jan 08 11:59:06 and until it is mapped the splash will be visible Jan 08 12:00:30 the window properties are asynchronous ? Jan 08 12:00:54 because if we already wait for the window type, let's just also wait for the parent id, or ? Jan 08 12:01:04 Tofe: that is what we can do Jan 08 12:01:09 yes they are async Jan 08 12:01:19 window gets created and then all properties et Jan 08 12:01:23 ah ok Jan 08 12:01:48 I think waiting for these properties before inserting in the window model looks better Jan 08 12:02:20 I guess it can't be very long Jan 08 12:05:30 right Jan 08 12:05:42 I will do that and add a timeout for 0.5s or so Jan 08 12:05:54 that should be enough for all properties to be set Jan 08 12:08:24 there isn't any signal mechanism ? Jan 08 12:09:12 oh we have two layers now Jan 08 12:10:34 Tofe: there is one Jan 08 12:10:41 when a property has changed you get a signal Jan 08 12:14:11 but not when a new property appears, I guess Jan 08 12:14:21 yes Jan 08 12:14:40 ok I see Jan 08 12:18:00 but I am still not very close to fix the bug I want to fix .. Jan 08 12:19:09 you're getting closer, you just don't know the total distance :) Jan 08 12:19:23 yeah Jan 08 12:19:33 that is always what I hate Jan 08 13:10:52 morphis: Which bug are you working on? Jan 08 13:11:54 fuuuuuuuu Jan 08 13:12:11 Herrie|Veer: just type one Jan 08 13:12:22 it's -21F (-29.4C) here right now Jan 08 13:13:48 HaDAk: That's cold :P Had that in Russia 2 years ago too :P But some thermo wear, good gloves, a hat/beenie and proper shoes help a lot :) Jan 08 13:13:54 morphis: Ah Jan 08 13:14:06 Herrie|Veer: i'm just going to stay in bed all day. :P Jan 08 13:14:41 Any ideas on the email app not appearing randomly? I think it has to do with focus or something else in carshell as well? Jan 08 13:15:12 You or Tofe had any luck looking into the luna-webappmgr problem with focusing with new Enyo? Jan 08 13:16:33 Herrie|Veer: we should .. Jan 08 13:21:07 Herrie|Veer: the vkbd pb ? can you tell me how to replay the problematic scenario ? I mean, how to switch to the new Enyo ? Jan 08 13:21:46 Tofe: There is currently 1 app in the image where you can see it: Testr Jan 08 13:22:00 Do the geolocation one, there's an input field there Jan 08 13:22:07 This shows the problem Jan 08 13:22:44 max age it's called Jan 08 13:28:58 http://www.engadget.com/2015/01/07/audi-smartwatch-web-os/?ncid=rss_truncated Jan 08 13:40:10 i bet the audi people are confused as to why their watches are getting more interest than their actual products. Jan 08 13:40:51 hey HaDAk should we make a trip to NAIAS this year? :D Jan 08 13:42:30 EricBlade: i'm thinking so. "hey, audi...we're here to see your wearable." Jan 08 13:42:48 it's like the detroit CES Jan 08 13:44:26 Herrie|Veer: ok thx Jan 08 13:49:30 i have been to the Auto Show since they folded the Oldsmobile division.. i could go. Jan 08 14:00:10 more: http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/7/7511883/lg-webos-smartwatch-hands-on-ces-2015 Jan 08 14:01:32 EricBlade has been holding out on us Jan 08 14:01:36 that dick Jan 08 14:10:21 Tofe: Alternatively there's also a PR for Memos app pending that you could push to your N4. It has it in the title and body field as well. Jan 08 14:35:15 huh. the webos nation forums are broken. overloaded? lol Jan 08 14:35:51 EricBlade: They load OK here behind my chinese proxy :P Jan 08 14:36:03 load fine, but a few minutes ago it wasn't.. and can't post Jan 08 14:36:29 gaaaaaaah i have to keep cranking the heat in here to keep my office warm. i have the house at 76 now. ugh. Jan 08 14:42:39 EricBlade: me too, but the bedroom is ~5-10 colder. i have a heating element on the wall. Jan 08 14:42:44 it's still cold. Jan 08 17:47:25 Anyone updating built-in apps to 2.5.1.1. (or 2.5.1) should read https://github.com/enyojs/enyo-docs/blob/master/developer-guide/release-notes/migration-2.3-to-2.5.md Lotta stuff not usably documented eleswhere. Jan 08 21:19:55 anyone seen Jan 08 22:19:12 qemux86 luna-next[609]: WARNING: 22:19:12.668: QtCompositor: Failed to initialize EGL display. There is no EGL_WL_bind_wayland_dis...xtension. on qemux86 build before? Jan 08 21:20:19 it's from luneos-unstable with newer mesa and everything, so just trying to narrow it a bit down Jan 08 21:26:02 JaMa: yes, that one was before. In my opinion it cause high cpu load in webappmanager. Jan 09 01:18:45 Alright, so after having to delete and re-make the LVM volume group and re doctor, I am trying once again to install LuneOS on my Touchpad after last nights failure Jan 09 01:18:50 Just one question... Jan 09 01:19:54 In the moboot.png it shows that there is a file, uImage.moboot, but what my novaterm is showing is uImage.moboot_0.3.8. Does that matter? Jan 09 01:37:09 Anybody know anything about that? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jan 09 02:59:58 2015