**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 02 02:59:58 2015 Mar 02 03:26:38 nizovn, I haven’t figured out how to edit CompatApps Mar 02 03:57:50 Herrie, does Messaging have a script to deploy the app to a device? Mar 02 04:21:00 Never mind that; how do you set up an account for messaging? Mar 02 04:52:53 DougReeder: DougReeder: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-sysmgr/blob/webOS-ports/master/conf/luna.conf#L132 Mar 02 05:06:12 I see that on GitHub’s website. But when I clone the repo, that line isn’t there. Mar 02 05:07:29 maybe you are on wrong branch - make sure it is webOS-ports/master Mar 02 05:08:53 Oh, it’s branch “webOS-ports/master” That’s a horrible name for a branch. Mar 02 05:19:07 Okay, the PR is at https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-sysmgr/pull/14 Mar 02 05:19:12 Thank you. Mar 02 05:35:19 DougReeder: For messaging it pretty much works the same as any other app Mar 02 05:35:24 Just the app is in the app folde Mar 02 05:35:27 +r Mar 02 05:35:53 I use: node enyo/tools/deploy.js -o deploy/org.webosports.app.messaging to build Mar 02 05:36:09 And then: adb push deploy/org.webosports.app.messaging /usr/palm/applications/org.webosports.app.messaging Mar 02 05:36:09 to push to device Mar 02 05:36:16 I’ve updated deploy.sh so you can use the -i flag to install Mar 02 05:37:05 mornng Mar 02 05:37:25 morning Mar 02 05:37:53 There is no real way to setup an account yet. Only SMS works, IM needs some work still Mar 02 05:38:16 At least I think Mar 02 05:39:10 Um, I don’t have a SIM card for my N4. Mar 02 05:39:34 Should I be able to start a thread anyway? Mar 02 05:40:49 In general yes I guess but it wouldn't send it Mar 02 05:40:54 But not 100% sure Mar 02 05:41:04 You were able to replicate the problem in general? Mar 02 05:41:20 I'm happy to test on my N4 if needed when you think you have a fix Mar 02 05:41:26 I got a sim in mine Mar 02 05:41:35 Just got a cheap prepaid for testing :) Mar 02 05:41:48 Put EUR 10 on it and it's OK for half a year or so ;) Mar 02 05:42:41 I’ve not been able to find a plan like that in the stares. Mar 02 05:42:53 s/stares/States Mar 02 05:43:38 The new button wan’t doing anything at all before; now it open a pane where an address can be selected. Mar 02 05:43:58 Ah here it are not really plans.... You just get a sim card for free or a few EUR Mar 02 05:44:15 Often they'll give you EUR 5 or EUR 10,- for free when you register or top up first time Mar 02 05:44:25 Usually valid for half a year or a year :) Mar 02 05:44:37 The new worked here on N4 Mar 02 05:49:03 I can evoke the error message now. Mar 02 05:50:02 Can you gets SIMs that can be used in the US? Mar 02 05:59:32 DougReeder: With the roaming charges dropping inside EU usage outside EU got a lot more expensive might not be worthwhile let me check though Mar 02 06:01:53 This one seems reasonable: http://www.gosim.com/gosim-international-sim-card.html Mar 02 06:02:11 USD 19 incl 10 credit Mar 02 06:02:26 Texts costs $ 0.15 Mar 02 06:03:28 There's also https://www.worldsim.com/ but more expensive Mar 02 06:04:55 This one might work too: http://www.jetstar.com/au/en/what-we-offer/jetstar-global-sim Mar 02 06:05:00 Similar price, more credit Mar 02 06:05:09 Seems to use gosim too Mar 02 06:59:07 Herrie|2: ok, I'll work on that Mar 02 06:59:53 didn't know that the drag to titles was so used, so wasn't my priority Mar 02 07:01:06 Tofe: Drag to titles imho is used to select that "tab" and then you can drag it to the right place on that tab Mar 02 07:01:13 At least that's how I always used it ;) Mar 02 07:01:37 ok :) Mar 02 07:02:32 shouldn't be hard to implement, I think Mar 02 07:02:58 you tried on device ? Mar 02 07:06:45 Yeah N4 Mar 02 07:06:57 Let me pull some screenshots Mar 02 07:08:07 ok, on N4 the look was “ok”, but not really wonderful Mar 02 07:09:14 Tofe: http://tinypic.com/r/jkdqao/8 Mar 02 07:09:14 and i still need to figure out how to make drag to nexr/previous page more solid Mar 02 07:09:26 1st icon seems to have both clock + contacts on top of each other Mar 02 07:09:59 3* Testr on bottom: http://tinypic.com/r/350rtd3/8 Mar 02 07:10:12 ok. with the pr code, right? Mar 02 07:10:54 Yes Mar 02 07:11:01 And squares around go off screen on left: http://tinypic.com/r/8wjio5/8 Mar 02 07:11:27 ok, well, some homework to do! Mar 02 07:12:00 thanks for having tried it Mar 02 07:12:26 drag'n'drop with qml is quite a nightmare :) Mar 02 07:19:46 I guess thats why they did it in C++ in legacy ;) Mar 02 07:21:28 I feel like some events are sometimes missed Mar 02 07:21:36 * Tofe hopes he's wrong Mar 02 10:07:22 Herrie|2: here it comes: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/commit/fcc7f5df9ae2eb1b3d1e83e80ab254296306c680 Mar 02 10:09:08 still, that doesn't fix the issues you encountered. I'll try to find a scenario for these issues. Mar 02 14:29:41 i'm sure you guys have seen this already Mar 02 14:29:42 http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/1/8128483/lg-watch-urbane-lte-hands-on Mar 02 14:31:03 morning Mar 02 14:31:11 mornin morphis Mar 02 14:35:32 morning HaDAk/morphis/Tofe: Mar 02 14:35:41 hey Herrie|Veer Mar 02 14:35:44 HaDAk: Yes saw it, looks slick Mar 02 14:35:56 Wondering about the price though ;) Mar 02 14:36:09 it's only launching in korea for an undisclosed price, they say Mar 02 14:36:12 at least, for now Mar 02 14:36:36 Seems my employer also announced one too y'day running Android Wear selling for EUR 199,- Mar 02 14:36:49 But I'd prefer the LG one :P Mar 02 14:36:52 whom do you work for? Mar 02 14:37:08 Huawei :P Mar 02 14:37:14 oh. one of our customers. Mar 02 14:37:14 :) Mar 02 14:38:10 LOL :P Mar 02 14:38:33 Well I don't do anything technical or product related ;) Mar 02 14:39:11 network-related? Mar 02 14:39:39 Nope finances :P Mar 02 14:39:43 oh. gross. Mar 02 14:40:53 i'm excited. i booked my tickets for my summer vacation. Mar 02 14:40:58 i'll be in spain, sweden, and india Mar 02 14:41:00 Well the area I work in has lots of technical stuff in it and in finance land, someone who knows a half bit of IT is already king :P Mar 02 14:44:35 :) Mar 02 15:00:56 Herrie just pulled in to you calendar againg check it out ! still some more minor work on the lay out thou.... Mar 02 15:08:22 Herrie|Veer: you had a chance to test the timezone change? Mar 02 15:29:04 Cobblemonster: Sorry did some testing last week but didn't find time to feedback (hectic here last weeks) Mar 02 15:29:13 morphis: Which one Mar 02 15:29:29 cobblemonster: Will test the new changes Mar 02 15:30:05 On N4 before needed some layout improvements will check again now. The new approach for week was a lot better performance wise though! Mar 02 15:30:33 Herrie|Veer: https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.app.settings/pull/47 Mar 02 15:31:25 Ah those: let me push them to N4 with Calendar as well Mar 02 15:38:12 Herrie: thanks Mar 02 15:38:18 we can merge the certificates also Mar 02 15:38:32 Herrie|Veer: when they are working fine and merged can you do a PR for settings? Mar 02 15:45:15 I think we can go ahead with certificates Mar 02 15:45:22 Timezones seem wip still Mar 02 15:56:02 Seems adb is acting up again will need to test tonight on other PC Mar 02 15:56:48 Should get a new laptop shortly hopefully that'll sort it. USB ports on this one are quite worn down Mar 02 16:00:02 morphis: On the qml components styling. I guess we're trying to mimic Jolla Silica and BB10 qml styling? Mar 02 16:00:33 With components: You already have some ready Benjamin & I could style or we should start ourselves from scratch? Mar 02 16:05:17 Herrie|Veer: there is a difference between how Silicia or BB10 works Mar 02 16:05:22 they have their own component set Mar 02 16:05:30 but we're basing on top of QtQuickControls Mar 02 16:05:39 which already abstracts the control logic Mar 02 16:05:46 so we just provide another style for those Mar 02 16:06:01 this is what you know as ButtonStyle, TextEditStyle etc. Mar 02 16:06:40 Herrie|Veer: see https://github.com/webOS-ports/luneos-components/tree/master/modules/QtQuick/Controls/Styles/LuneOS Mar 02 16:06:54 what you basically do is you place the Style implementations in there Mar 02 16:07:12 then you write a QML application using QtQuickControls and run it with the LuneOS style Mar 02 16:08:45 install luneos-components and run qmlscene or the application with Mar 02 16:08:48 QT_QUICK_CONTROLS_STYLE=LuneOS set Mar 02 16:09:15 Herrie|Veer: there is already a small example application at https://github.com/webOS-ports/luneos-components/tree/master/examples/gallery Mar 02 16:09:36 OK I couldn't get that to work in QtCreator Mar 02 16:09:44 But could be me... Mar 02 16:09:48 ah Mar 02 16:10:01 you need to install it in your system Mar 02 16:10:03 Any simple example would help, do we have this in Firstuse? Mar 02 16:10:09 no Mar 02 16:10:14 Or install steps :) Mar 02 16:10:29 let me write those Mar 02 16:10:40 Herrie|Veer: on which system are you running qtcreator? Mar 02 16:10:42 linux? Mar 02 16:11:08 Windows and Benjamin as graphics probably Mac but not sure Mar 02 16:12:10 hm, ok Mar 02 16:15:56 Herrie: let me try to get that setup later today Mar 02 16:19:00 morphis: Thnz Mar 02 16:19:03 thnx Mar 02 17:01:57 Does anyone know if any of the latest nightly lune os images for Nexus 7 grouper work? Mar 02 17:32:11 cody4k: afaik no Mar 02 17:34:31 morphis: what are you trying to setup exactly ? can I help ? Mar 02 17:35:03 I think it would be good to have a C++/qml example running in desktop qtcreator to help them contribute to the styling Mar 02 17:48:40 Tofe: building luneos-components on desktop systems Mar 02 17:48:56 basically we need it to load the example app and load the right style Mar 02 17:49:05 with QT_QUICK_CONTROLS_STYLE=LuneOS set Mar 02 17:50:53 yes Mar 02 17:52:16 and Herrie|2 and Benjamin said they want to work on getting the style implemented Mar 02 17:52:23 so we need them setup to do the development Mar 02 17:52:29 on Linux I would just install the style :) Mar 02 17:52:37 but now we have to work with qmlscene -I ... Mar 02 18:07:04 I could get a hand on a windows 7 install, eventually Mar 02 18:08:12 ok, I was in a middle of a debug for the tablauncher drag'n'drop, I dive back Mar 02 18:12:58 :) Mar 02 18:27:53 Tofe: Alerts fix breaks more then it fixes it seems Mar 02 18:28:15 Email notifications aren't shown properly anymore and I have a black bar above gesture area after a notification was shown Mar 02 18:31:49 Herrie|2: wait, which fix ? the notification icon fix ? Mar 02 18:37:56 No for the height or you didn't touch that yet? Mar 02 18:41:52 It's not yet merged in master Mar 02 18:42:47 but it is in tofe/work, if you did push all that stuff on device with the tablauncher Mar 02 18:43:50 I'll refine it to only fix the height of the Cards window type Mar 02 18:44:09 hey, but wait, it is already the case.... Mar 02 18:44:44 * Tofe is confused Mar 02 19:06:44 Tofe: Yeah I pushed TOfe/work branch Mar 02 19:08:15 Tofe: http://tinypic.com/r/2nu0vhi/8 this is with Tofe/Work Mar 02 19:13:44 Herrie|2: I see what's the problem. It's just a wrong icon path that I missed. Mar 02 19:18:31 :D Mar 02 19:18:42 Easy fix then :D Mar 02 19:21:16 yup Mar 02 19:21:51 it's just a "../" to add to the default path in Notifications/NotificationsArea.qml Mar 02 19:22:06 I've done it, but not pushed the commit yet Mar 02 19:22:24 I will merge it will the precedent commit about notifications Mar 02 19:24:47 OK can confirm that works :) Mar 02 19:25:00 Did it locally and pushed to N4 Mar 02 19:29:41 ok good Mar 02 19:31:32 Any luck debugging drag'n'drop? Mar 02 19:36:22 cobblemonster: you got mail Mar 02 19:57:25 morphis: Merged certificate manager for Settings + PR to Dizzy: https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/pull/124 Mar 02 19:57:41 Timezone not ready for prime time yet, performance needs tweaking, takes 14s currently to load Mar 02 19:57:46 This is on N$ Mar 02 19:57:48 N4 Mar 02 19:59:06 Herrie|2: I reproduced some issues yes Mar 02 19:59:37 but the debugging is quite hard, as Qt doesn't behave as advertised Mar 02 20:00:26 Herrie|2: the app itself or just the tzdata ? Mar 02 20:00:28 Herrie|2: ping Mar 02 20:00:30 :) Mar 02 20:00:32 (VisualDataModel is very useful for DnD, but also quite bugged) Mar 02 20:03:10 :) Mar 02 21:01:34 Tofe: are you on windows? Mar 02 21:01:46 not at home Mar 02 21:02:10 but I have a little netbook with dualboot Mar 02 21:02:49 ah ok Mar 02 21:03:10 pushed some more bits for the QtQuickControls style to https://github.com/webOS-ports/luneos-components/commits/morphis/work Mar 02 21:03:22 and changed the qmake config a bit to work on windows too Mar 02 21:04:32 I can test that tomorrow at work during some pause Mar 02 21:07:23 Tofe: would be great Mar 02 21:07:33 added a small script to run the gallery example Mar 02 21:13:09 ok! Mar 02 21:46:48 Hi. Can I point out that Settings' new Certificates.js is using enyo.PalmService which has just been replaced with LunaService? Mar 02 21:52:50 That’s a useful point to make. Mar 02 21:53:18 But it can be addressed when Settings is updated to use the latest webos-lib. Mar 02 21:54:48 I think Settings has already been updated to use the latest webos-lib (I think). Settings is a bit broken for me right now. Mar 02 21:55:20 (Pulling from master on GitHub) Mar 02 21:57:56 It's possible I have merged two branches myself, but it looks like an issue on master to me. Mar 02 21:58:06 Dang, you’re right - and I’m the one that updated it. Is the work on Certficates.js not working from the latest version of Settings? Mar 02 21:59:04 Surely, you can’t expect me to remember what I did over a week ago? :-) Mar 02 22:01:11 DougReeder, :) Mar 02 22:03:38 DougReederL I can make it work (not fail) just by s/Palm/Luna/ at the top of Certificates.js Mar 02 22:05:15 The other change is that you use the fields of inResponse, not inResponse.data Mar 02 23:08:33 Sorry ElvisPre & DougReeder that was my bad. I tested the certificate bits a while ago and didn't retest it today before merging. Completely forgot we did the lib change Mar 02 23:08:46 PR with fix would be appreciated :) Mar 02 23:10:13 I have patched Certificates.js but I don't know how to test it. Mar 02 23:24:35 Herrie: There should be a PR for Certificates on GitHub now. Mar 02 23:28:19 https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.app.settings/pull/48 Mar 02 23:55:58 soooo,,,, what's the recommended Linux distro for building WebOS? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Mar 03 02:59:58 2015