**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 30 02:59:58 2015 Jul 30 03:24:07 HaDAk, web apps can be packaged for the desktop as “open web apps” requiring Firefox, or Chrome apps requiring Chrome…. Jul 30 03:24:59 but calls to the PalmBus will fail, so most webOS-specific apps wouldn’t be usable. Jul 30 03:26:30 For example, I package my Serene Notes as an open web app and Chrome app, as well as for webOS. Jul 30 05:20:38 morning Jul 30 08:18:52 morphis: ping Jul 30 08:20:06 Herrie|Veer: pong Jul 30 08:21:20 Just wanted to quickly check: For websites serving certificates legacy does Trust Once, Trust Always or Don't Trust. I guess implementing the Trust Once and Don't Trust is easy. For the Trust Always we'd need to import it in Certificate Manager I guess? Jul 30 09:16:50 morphis: When you have a minute can you merge the meta-webos-ports PR for webos-keyboard? Jul 30 09:17:10 Herrie|Veer: yeah Jul 30 09:18:07 Herrie|Veer: you should now have rights for meta-webos-ports too Jul 30 09:18:16 however please notice that we normally don't do merges Jul 30 09:18:27 Yup Jul 30 09:18:41 morphis: I know you test locally and push directly right? Jul 30 09:18:48 Or use the script in future? Jul 30 09:18:49 right Jul 30 09:19:06 lets talk with JaMa what he feels about us switching to merges for that Jul 30 09:20:19 OK I closed old PR's that were merged and did the webos-keyboard. New build running now. Jul 30 09:20:34 For the certificates: My assumption right? Jul 30 09:23:43 Herrie|Veer: certificates? Jul 30 09:24:31 Yeah for example https://garfonso.darktech.org Jul 30 09:24:39 for https sites Jul 30 09:28:08 ah you mean in the browser Jul 30 09:30:21 Yeah Jul 30 09:30:25 In browser Jul 30 09:30:41 Currently we don't handle them so Garfonso cannot use his site :P Jul 30 09:31:09 I'm working on all kind of dialog, prompt etc now including the certs Jul 30 09:33:50 sounds good Jul 30 09:34:41 For the "Trust Always" option I guess we'd need to launch the Certificate Manager in a "silent" mode to import it? Jul 30 09:40:20 Ah seems that legacy used palm://com.palm.certificatemanager/addcertificate for this Jul 30 09:42:16 Seems we don't have this yet? Jul 30 09:43:33 Ah we have org.webosports.certmgr :) Jul 30 09:51:10 right Jul 30 09:51:32 however we need to make sure the browser uses the same certificate storage as the certmgr does Jul 30 09:52:45 Can't the browser just make a luna-send call? Jul 30 09:53:00 To the certmgr and the certmgr would take care of it? Jul 30 09:54:03 yes Jul 30 09:54:11 but webkit somewhere takes the certificates Jul 30 09:54:17 and I hope things will just work :) Jul 30 09:55:26 OK I'll toy a bit with it. Accept Once should be easy Jul 30 09:55:41 Just the permanent one might be tricky a bit :) Jul 30 10:03:34 ok, so what goes into certmgr would also work for node.js service and binary stuff like e-mail? :) Jul 30 10:11:33 Garfonso: Theoretically it should :P Jul 30 10:11:39 We should still try though Jul 30 10:11:52 Did anyone notice that the app menu in email seems broken? Jul 30 12:59:50 morphis/Tofe: You have any idea where QtCreator / QtWebKit stores temporary stuff like certs? Seems that once I accept a cert it will remember it, even after close of QtCreator. Jul 30 14:38:05 hmmm, certainly somewhere is your .cache or .local/QtCreator Jul 30 15:03:35 Yeah found it there Jul 30 15:03:38 Thnx Jul 30 15:03:50 Seems I got something working more or less for certs now Jul 30 15:03:57 Just need to finetune a bit more Jul 30 16:35:13 I saw that Jolla has recently moved to using p11-kit, a utility that centralizes all the certs management Jul 30 16:36:34 As a power-user, it really feels well organized: one trust db, all the certs can be imported/exported/listed, one utility to unite them all Jul 30 16:39:45 morphis: ping Jul 30 16:42:25 Tofe: pong Jul 30 16:42:30 Tofe: we have something similar Jul 30 16:43:57 morphis: I was going to ask a question about fbprogress, but I've just realized I wasn't testing the correct device :p Jul 30 16:44:07 :) Jul 30 16:47:31 morphis: ok, now on the correct device (TP): I just can't get fbprogress to show smthg. Listening to you, it seems like you didn't have any special difficulty making it work Jul 30 16:47:50 The backlight seems to be off Jul 30 16:47:56 and stays so Jul 30 16:47:59 you mean it doesn't bring anything on the screen? Jul 30 16:48:03 yes Jul 30 16:48:11 but the program is running Jul 30 16:48:37 Tofe: see https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/commit/957224e0e61a733f8918d6e99637284bed23b34d Jul 30 16:48:38 I did a systemctl stop luna-next just before, which shut the backlight down Jul 30 16:48:43 update_rootfs() Jul 30 16:48:48 ok thx Jul 30 16:48:55 that is how I used it Jul 30 16:49:01 but only tested on n4 Jul 30 16:49:12 ah, but on n4 I get it to work too Jul 30 16:49:15 however if backlight is off you might just need to enable it Jul 30 16:49:25 maybe legacy has some hints Jul 30 16:49:50 well, LunaSysMgr seems to set it on anyway, so there must be something I'm missing :) Jul 30 17:11:17 Tofe: Our solution for certs is really similar indeed ;) And has been for quite some time I think... Probably since 1.x already ;) Jul 30 17:11:26 Guys @ Palm did know what they were doing most of the times ;) Jul 30 17:11:39 :) Jul 30 17:14:03 Tofe/morphis: For http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/865 maybe we should just do a reboot? Anyway currently for me after FirstUse system often locks up and I don't get a launcher Jul 30 17:14:29 Herrie: sounds like a good workaround Jul 30 17:15:02 Legacy also did that anyway Jul 30 17:15:08 And out boot time is WAY WAY quicker ;) Jul 30 17:26:43 Would this be as easy as adding a reboot button on the last page of firstuse and have that call palm://com.palm.power/shutdown/machineReboot ? Jul 30 17:29:42 could be Jul 30 17:37:09 OK I'll toy a bit around then Jul 30 17:37:16 Will first finish a browser PR and then do this one Jul 30 17:37:22 SHould be fairly straight fwd Jul 30 18:23:07 OK https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.app.firstuse/pull/19 Jul 30 18:23:12 That was easy Jul 30 18:23:23 Browser will take me a little longer still ;) Jul 30 18:26:08 Seems to work for me :) Jul 30 19:15:17 I go from 4 to 20 activities ;) Jul 30 19:36:13 morphis: is sleepDisplay and unsleepDisplay part of the hwcomposer API ? Jul 30 20:00:55 Lets see what the Win10 update will break :P **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jul 31 02:59:58 2015