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Aug 26 03:52:32 <DougReeder>    Well, I’m not able to reporduce the Luna restarts with the input type=“file”
Aug 26 05:24:31 <Herrie|2> DougReeder: You mean Tofe's IPK fixed it?
Aug 26 05:24:38 <Herrie|2> Or .. just not able to replicate?
Aug 26 05:25:05 <DougReeder> Nope, I just stopped observing it on my N4, after a re-flash.
Aug 26 05:25:45 <Herrie|2> There was a missing image which I fixed recently
Aug 26 05:25:58 <Herrie|2> That might have been the cause (shouldn't be but who knows)
Aug 26 05:27:25 <DougReeder> If it doesn’t re-ocur, there’s not really anything to do about it.
Aug 26 05:28:51 <Herrie|2> https://github.com/webOS-ports/luneos-components/commit/4a2c18562735d22fa9826109cbbff19ef2c603bd
Aug 26 05:29:02 <Herrie|2> THat's what I fixed because the buttons looked odd
Aug 26 05:29:21 <Herrie|2> morphis: ping
Aug 26 06:15:30 <nizovn> Herrie|2: i'm going to restyle a little AuthenticationDialog, for now it looks http://i62.tinypic.com/2r4la52.png
Aug 26 06:29:26 <Tofe> Herrie|2: I'm glad it fixes the problems for you too :) I don't have merge rights either though
Aug 26 06:29:29 <Tofe> morphis: ^
Aug 26 07:18:48 <Herrie|Veer> nizovn: Feel free to do so
Aug 26 07:19:14 <Herrie|Veer> Needs some wrapping for sure and maybe inputs need some style tweaking too.
Aug 26 07:34:38 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: ping
Aug 26 07:38:35 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: pong
Aug 26 07:39:18 <Herrie|Veer> It seems our banner notifications are implemented incorrectly :P
Aug 26 07:39:26 <Tofe> oh.
Aug 26 07:39:30 <Herrie|Veer> Banners should actually close by themselves and ours don't
Aug 26 07:39:48 <Tofe> You mean after some timeout?
Aug 26 07:39:58 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Yes
Aug 26 07:40:46 <Herrie|Veer> Try charging your TP with a wall charger and you'll see a "Charging Battery" sliding in on top and sliding out again and it's gone.
Aug 26 07:40:54 <Herrie|Veer> With our implementation it stays.
Aug 26 07:41:57 <Herrie|Veer> I was puzzled why we had multiple battery notifications (i.e. 5%, 10% at the same time). I worked around that but only when I saw the "Charging Battery" I noticed that it didn't disappear by itself while it should...
Aug 26 07:42:07 <Tofe> Well, yes, our implementation doesn't have any concept of timeout
Aug 26 07:42:23 <Herrie|Veer> The same probably causes the email "synchronisation" start and finish to show both.
Aug 26 07:42:36 <Herrie|Veer> While they should only show for a short period of time :P
Aug 26 07:42:52 <Tofe> Ok, I'll have a look - probably straightforward to fix
Aug 26 07:43:30 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Yeah
Aug 26 07:43:46 <Herrie|Veer> Dashboards on the other hand should stay visible until we interact
Aug 26 07:47:19 <Herrie|Veer> I've sent you some info on them via email :)
Aug 26 07:47:27 <Herrie|Veer> Let me know in case of questions
Aug 26 07:47:37 <Tofe> ok thanks
Aug 26 07:49:33 <Herrie|Veer> Let me see if I can find the timeout for you ;)
Aug 26 07:50:27 <Tofe> Yes, that's what I was looking for; I guess it would be part of the window properties
Aug 26 07:52:37 <Herrie|Veer> Min seems to be 2s max 5s
Aug 26 07:52:45 <Herrie|Veer> Depending on some conditions
Aug 26 07:54:30 <Tofe> Where do you see that?
Aug 26 07:55:17 <Herrie|Veer> Check BannerMessageHandler.cpp in LunaSysManager
Aug 26 07:55:31 <Herrie|Veer> I'm on Veer so cannot easily c&p the full link from my pc
Aug 26 07:55:52 <Herrie|Veer> it's called kMaxShowTimeMS and kMinShowTimeMS
Aug 26 07:56:30 <Herrie|Veer> I took it from woce lunasysmgr
Aug 26 07:56:40 <Herrie|Veer> Because ours is stripped to bare minimum :P
Aug 26 07:57:08 <Herrie|Veer> It's on http://github.com/woce/LunaSysMgr
Aug 26 07:57:22 <Tofe> Yes, already on it
Aug 26 07:57:36 <Tofe> 2s if banner is alone, 5s if there is more than one visible
Aug 26 07:59:00 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Yeah that's what I understood as well :)
Aug 26 08:23:23 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/commit/dd5e5b4f429b348fed89f1ed1e8e70e9c26638f6 should do it
Aug 26 08:25:17 <Tofe> Though I don't know if they should overlap or stack on each other
Aug 26 08:29:46 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe also not sure about that one... I think they're next to each other on legacy
Aug 26 08:29:56 <Herrie|Veer> I need to check that sometime
Aug 26 08:39:14 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: I think this is Ok for PR and we can take it further if needed later on.
Aug 26 08:39:24 <Herrie|Veer> Just checked it in QtCreator but seems OK
Aug 26 09:09:32 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: ping
Aug 26 09:49:39 <Herrie|Veer> DougReeder: Let me know when you're around
Aug 26 09:54:24 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: You gonna update PR based on the comments?
Aug 26 10:36:19 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: yes, it should be fine now that I know much better how things work
Aug 26 10:36:32 <Herrie|Veer> :)
Aug 26 12:24:57 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: So your PR is ready to be merged as is?
Aug 26 12:35:11 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: for qtwayland?
Aug 26 12:35:53 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: yes
Aug 26 12:38:34 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: the current proposed PR works, but has to be improved as it doesn't repect fully the wayland protocol
Aug 26 12:38:57 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: OK
Aug 26 12:39:12 <Tofe> Anyway it's a far better intermediate situation than a crash
Aug 26 12:39:15 <Herrie|Veer> But we can merge as is since it solves the bug and you'll improve from there?
Aug 26 12:39:24 <Herrie|Veer> That's what I think ;)
Aug 26 12:39:35 <Tofe> Yes, sure, if you find someone to merge it :)
Aug 26 12:39:56 <Herrie|Veer> JaMa: Any chance you could merge the qtwayland PR for us in webos-ports? Seems morphis is not around to do it and both Tofe and myself don't have access ;)
Aug 26 12:53:19 <JaMa> Herrie|Veer: sure, do you have PR link handy?
Aug 26 12:54:18 <Herrie|Veer> http://github.com/webOS-ports/qtwayland/pull/5
Aug 26 12:54:30 <Tofe> JaMa: is that the correct target branch?
Aug 26 12:55:13 <JaMa> I think you wanted it to webOS-ports:webOS-ports/master
Aug 26 12:55:20 <JaMa> master-next is for qt 5.5
Aug 26 12:55:34 <Herrie|Veer> Seems we're using master-next in dizzy already?
Aug 26 12:55:49 <Herrie|Veer> webOS-ports/master-next is what I see in the bb
Aug 26 12:56:40 <JaMa> ah, that's wrong, will fix that as well
Aug 26 12:57:17 <Tofe> :) ok, I'll add a PR for master (the one for -next is still valid anyway)
Aug 26 12:57:33 <Herrie|Veer> JaMa: I can do that as well
Aug 26 12:57:42 <Herrie|Veer> Need to update it anyway for the new build
Aug 26 12:59:17 <Herrie|Veer> JaMa: Seems we're missing 7bd5cd8 in master
Aug 26 13:00:51 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: no, it's there as 496d1708a697bca3aab1c86d6ffcb5b640c56d96
Aug 26 13:01:29 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: OK good
Aug 26 13:01:31 <Tofe> (and anyway my latest PR also includes a reworked version of that commit)
Aug 26 13:01:57 <Herrie|Veer> JaMa: I can just switch to master in bb and update SRCREV right?
Aug 26 13:02:10 <JaMa> I've done that already
Aug 26 13:06:14 <Herrie|Veer> Thanks I'll trigger a build then :)
Aug 26 13:24:05 <Herrie|Veer> DougReeder: ping
Aug 26 13:25:12 <Herrie|Veer> JaMa: Thnx for help :)
Aug 26 13:39:17 <JaMa> yw :)
Aug 26 13:39:34 <JaMa> btw should I build another unstable with Fido release for testing?
Aug 26 13:42:30 <Herrie|Veer> JaMa: Why not :) I can give them a spin :)
Aug 26 13:45:13 <JaMa> cool, will trigger that after OE world builds (few days)
Aug 26 14:07:22 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: I can't test the build nor the runtime, but the correct fix should look like this: https://github.com/Tofee/qtwayland/commit/5f1cca6cc23e7d7036f13e3b32972420d2883ce0
Aug 26 14:26:04 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: I'll leave you to test that later and then you can do a PR
Aug 26 14:44:14 <Tofe> yup, that was also my intent
Aug 26 16:56:40 <Herrie|2> Tofe: Ping
Aug 26 17:05:46 <Tofe> Herrie|2: pong
Aug 26 17:15:46 <Tofe> Herrie|2: wanna test another qtwayland ? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4679068/luna-next/qtwayland_5.4.2%2Bgit0%2B8d4ea4eb60-r0.5_armv7a-vfp-neon.ipk
Aug 26 17:16:08 <Tofe> For me it works pretty well
Aug 26 17:23:27 <Herrie|2> Tofe: Seems LNC update broke everything
Aug 26 17:23:33 <Herrie|2> No banner, no power stuff
Aug 26 17:24:19 <Herrie|2> YOu sure https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/blob/dd5e5b4f429b348fed89f1ed1e8e70e9c26638f6/qml/Notifications/AlertWindowsArea.qml#L53 is correct?
Aug 26 17:25:46 <Tofe> Well, mmh, let me check quickly
Aug 26 17:26:38 <Herrie|2> For banner it looks like it does something of 1px at the bottom but not 100% sure
Aug 26 17:26:41 <Herrie|2> Movement is so minimal
Aug 26 17:27:04 <Tofe> there was one change I was not sure of
Aug 26 17:27:22 <Tofe> ah, yes, it's what you highlighted
Aug 26 17:27:30 <Tofe> did you try reverting it on device?
Aug 26 17:27:40 <Tofe> I'm in the process of updating my LNC
Aug 26 17:28:21 <Herrie|2> Yeah
Aug 26 17:28:24 <Herrie|2> It works then
Aug 26 17:28:30 <Herrie|2> Just banner should completely disappear
Aug 26 17:28:34 <Herrie|2> It now still shows the icon
Aug 26 17:28:38 <Herrie|2> Which it shouldn't I think
Aug 26 17:28:44 <Tofe> let me play with it
Aug 26 17:28:51 <Tofe> what do you use to show the banner?
Aug 26 17:29:24 <Herrie|2> I let my battery run low :P
Aug 26 17:29:31 <Herrie|2> Or you can add an email account with some emails
Aug 26 17:29:35 <Herrie|2> And it will start syncing
Aug 26 17:29:57 <Tofe> We don't have anything with Testr?
Aug 26 17:33:05 <Tofe> ah it's an alert, not a banner
Aug 26 17:36:46 <Herrie|2> I think we have in Testr
Aug 26 17:37:05 <Herrie|2> Alert is at 5% with OK button
Aug 26 17:37:11 <Herrie|2> 20, 10 are banners
Aug 26 17:37:14 <Herrie|2> +%
Aug 26 17:38:01 <Tofe> no, Testr opens a notification, not a banner
Aug 26 17:38:37 <Herrie|2> Banner notification
Aug 26 17:38:45 <Herrie|2> Should not add icon it says
Aug 26 17:38:50 <Herrie|2> But it does ;)
Aug 26 17:39:07 <Herrie|2> Dinner now, will check legacy afterwards for confirmation
Aug 26 17:39:38 <nizovn> it may have icon
Aug 26 17:41:20 <nizovn> https://goo.gl/PdXD4f
Aug 26 17:41:21 <Tofe> https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/pull/231 in case you want to relaunch a build
Aug 26 17:43:03 <nizovn> i wanted to show banner notification when copying text in browser, but seems it's impossible
Aug 26 17:43:58 <Tofe> nizovn: I think I'm getting more and more confused between notifications, banners, popups and dashboard. Well, the latest I can see more clearly, but the rest...
Aug 26 17:44:19 <Tofe> oh, and alerts, too.
Aug 26 17:46:59 <nizovn> Tofe: yeah, me too :) but available pages ^^ seems can explain a bit
Aug 26 17:48:16 <Tofe> well, from what I understand, alerts == popups (which are persistent), banners can be notifications, but I don't know when it's not
Aug 26 17:51:53 <Herrie|2> Let me dig in legacy doctors and make a list ;)
Aug 26 17:59:23 <HaDAk> i wish i was more useful.
Aug 26 17:59:25 * HaDAk sighs
Aug 26 18:37:27 <Herrie|2> Tofe: Alert = popup and intrusive, user needs to respond (like power dialog)
Aug 26 18:37:46 <Herrie|2> Then we have banners and dashboards
Aug 26 18:38:02 <Herrie|2> Banners are temporary in most cases
Aug 26 18:38:35 <Herrie|2> A dashboard opens in full then minimizes to an icon which you can expand (for example email notification)
Aug 26 18:38:47 <Herrie|2> I'm figuring out how to tell when a banner should stay or go now ;)
Aug 26 18:49:23 <HaDAk> Herrie|2: maybe that should be a parameter that a dev specifies
Aug 26 18:49:38 <HaDAk> OR
Aug 26 18:49:48 <HaDAk> if it needs to stay, have it minimize to the dashboard
Aug 26 18:50:01 <HaDAk> also, something the app dev can specify
Aug 26 18:50:49 <nizovn> https://goo.gl/ejRnyZ says dashboard opens as persistent banner
Aug 26 19:13:51 <Herrie|2> Seems banners should auto-hide
Aug 26 19:14:02 <Herrie|2> And dashboards can be made into banners with a notification icon
Aug 26 19:14:11 <Herrie|2> At least all examples I saw
Aug 26 19:15:18 <Herrie|2> But then there's: https://github.com/woce/LunaSysMgr/blob/beta/Src/lunaui/notifications/BannerMessageHandler.cpp#l97 which indicates you can force it not to surpress
Aug 26 19:15:23 <Herrie|2> I didn't see this being used anywhere though
Aug 26 19:19:22 <Tofe> Herrie|2: I think I've understood what you described when you said "only an icon remains"
Aug 26 19:19:30 <Tofe> Herrie|2: that's just standard notification
Aug 26 19:19:47 <Tofe> click on the line where the icon is ==> you'll get the expanded notification area
Aug 26 19:23:26 <Herrie|2> Yeah those are dashboards
Aug 26 19:23:33 <Herrie|2> Can be swiped, interactive etc
Aug 26 19:23:55 <Herrie|2> The banners should just show the small icon + text (text is required not optional) and disappear after the timeout
Aug 26 20:04:06 <Tofe> Nope, what you get really (based on what you described) is notifications: swipeable, not interactive, can be minimized.
Aug 26 20:04:23 <Tofe> It's also what I got when I clicked on "Banner notifications" in Testr
Aug 26 20:05:39 <Herrie|2> Tofe: That's because LNC handling of certain things isn't correct ;)
Aug 26 20:05:44 <Herrie|2> Dashboards are OK
Aug 26 20:05:50 <Herrie|2> popups/alerts too
Aug 26 20:05:53 <Herrie|2> Banners not ;)
Aug 26 20:06:05 <Herrie|2> They should simply disappear after the timeout, leaving no traces
Aug 26 20:07:44 <Herrie|2> Let me see if I cna run Testr on legacy ;)
Aug 26 20:35:53 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: It runs on legacy. Banner appears and completely disappears after timeout
Aug 26 20:36:47 <Herrie|Laptop> When a 2nd banner appears before first one is gone, it fades out first one and replaces it by a 2nd one
Aug 26 20:38:51 <Herrie|Laptop> Sent you IPK to play with ;)
Aug 26 20:45:03 <Herrie|Laptop> I need to check this on TP still to see what it does there
Aug 26 20:45:07 <Herrie|Laptop> But similar quite sure
Aug 26 20:47:20 <Herrie|Laptop> Let me get my TP Go to test
Aug 26 20:50:54 <Herrie|Laptop> Acts the same, only 1 of the same banner at the same time. Not sure what would happen with multiple different kinds of banners at the same time though
Aug 26 20:50:57 <Herrie|Laptop> Not easy to test that
Aug 26 20:51:12 <Herrie|Laptop> All others are dashboards in some way or form ;)
Aug 26 20:51:21 <Herrie|Laptop> Either in full size or minimized right away
Aug 26 20:51:26 <Herrie|Laptop> And Alert = Alert ;)
Aug 26 20:51:34 <Herrie|Laptop> Just like popup
Aug 26 20:56:15 <Herrie|Laptop> So for now we'd only need to make sure to banners completely disappear and there's only 1 at the same time it seems.
Aug 26 20:56:23 <Herrie|Laptop> Other implementations seem OK for now
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