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Jan 07 04:33:57 <DougReeder> Herrie, IIRC, layered dashboards are handled by the JS framework.  Mojo in 1.x had that, Mojo in 2.x didn’t, and no version of Enyo implemented that.
Jan 07 04:39:59 <DougReeder> I can confirm that 975 is fixed, except the system popup 160 DIPs high is slightly taller than the 160 gridunit one. Shouldn’t they be the same, Herrie?
Jan 07 05:15:04 <DougReeder> Something resembling webOS’s Quick Actions is taking off: http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/6/10718282/internet-bots-messaging-slack-facebook-m
Jan 07 05:54:16 <Herrie> DougReeder: Yeah they look similar, but indeed not 100% the same. Could be our GridUnit value is not 100% accurate somehow.
Jan 07 05:54:27 <Herrie> It's a few px only, could be rounding somewhere i'm not sure
Jan 07 05:54:49 <DougReeder> It’s probably close enough, assuming people use repsonsive design.
Jan 07 05:55:07 <Herrie> I think so too :)
Jan 07 05:55:08 <DougReeder> But it does raise questions
Jan 07 05:56:24 <Herrie> DougReeder: They're 2 different implementations on it's own, so I think it's to be expected that the implementation isn't 100% the same
Jan 07 05:56:39 <Herrie> Though we might have a look sometime when possible.
Jan 07 05:56:40 * DougReeder nods
Jan 07 05:56:52 <Herrie> I can confirm that it happens on both Maguro and Mako
Jan 07 06:01:06 <Herrie> Will test on TP as well
Jan 07 06:05:10 <DougReeder> On TP they are the same hieght.
Jan 07 06:11:26 <Herrie|Veer> DougReeder: I guess it's because we need to provide a GridUnit value for each device. For TP it's exactly 10. But for N4 it's set to 18 while it might actually need to be 18,4 or something. Not sure if we can provide a number like that or if we should wan
Jan 07 06:11:26 <Herrie|Veer> t it.
Jan 07 06:12:39 <DougReeder> I’d prefer to use DIPs.  They are device-independent, like GI.  But I have no problem with people using GU.
Jan 07 06:13:47 <Herrie|Veer> DougReeder: Problem is that in QML we cannot use DIP I think so we need another approach.
Jan 07 06:13:59 <DougReeder> Ah.
Jan 07 06:14:14 <Herrie|Veer> DIP size = pixels * devicepixelratio?
Jan 07 06:14:59 <DougReeder> hw pixels = DIPs * devicepixelratio
Jan 07 06:16:37 <Herrie|Veer> OK.
Jan 07 06:17:09 <Herrie|Veer> GridUnits is really a similar approach :)
Jan 07 06:17:23 * DougReeder nods
Jan 07 06:18:50 <Herrie|Veer> Not sure why we chose to use GridUnits and not something like DIP. My guess is because of QML and it was a readily available implementation from Ubuntu already.
Jan 07 06:19:24 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe or morphis could elaborate about that I guess
Jan 07 06:30:59 <Tofe> morning
Jan 07 06:32:09 <Tofe> Herrie: your guess is correct. It's really the same thing anyway.
Jan 07 06:34:50 <Tofe> IMHO, the advantage of GridUnits is that you always use "reasonable" numbers, between 0.5 and 10. You know that below 1 it will hardly be usable by touch, so it's kind of a "thumb" unit
Jan 07 07:52:53 <nizovn> Tofe: any additional suggestions about gesturehandler PR?
Jan 07 08:20:11 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Seems I can RMA my CPU at least, so sent it :) Should get reply within a week :)
Jan 07 09:41:02 <Herrie|Veer> I guess it's a good sign they didn't reject it straight away based on it's purchase date in Oct 2012 :) It's in the mail so we'll see :)
Jan 07 10:00:22 <Tofe> nizovn: I don't think so; did you already test it on device?
Jan 07 10:01:07 <nizovn> no, tested only on emulator
Jan 07 10:01:58 <Tofe> ok; but that's quite good already
Jan 07 10:02:15 <Tofe> Let's merge it I'd say
Jan 07 10:04:22 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: You seen my messaging PR? Or that doesn't hit your mailbox?
Jan 07 10:05:35 <Herrie|Veer> Ah that's also merged :)
Jan 07 10:09:17 <Herrie|Veer> Will kick off some new nightly including all this goodness :)
Jan 07 11:13:21 <Herrie|Veer> JaMa: ping
Jan 07 11:13:50 <JaMa> pong
Jan 07 11:14:56 <Herrie|Veer> Had any luck in finding the reason for Mako not booting with Jethro?
Jan 07 11:20:16 <JaMa> sorry, no :/
Jan 07 11:23:32 <Herrie|Veer> OK no time or no luck yet?
Jan 07 11:24:02 <JaMa> no time
Jan 07 11:26:50 <Herrie|Veer> OK :)
Jan 07 11:27:19 <Herrie|Veer> That answer worries me slightly less then you not being able to find the cause :P
Jan 07 11:39:50 <JaMa> hehe :)
Jan 07 13:10:58 <Herrie|Veer> Hmmmz appearantly LG will have Google Play store on webOS TV's :s
Jan 07 13:10:59 <Herrie|Veer> ?
Jan 07 19:04:53 <Herrie> nizovn: ping
Jan 07 19:05:47 <nizovn> Herrie: pong
Jan 07 19:15:30 <Herrie|Laptop> nizovn: Maybe I'm misunderstanding how Screen Edge Flick gestures work?
Jan 07 19:15:55 <Herrie|Laptop> Aren't these the ones that when you're in maximized view and you swipe in from left and/or right it would switch to another card?
Jan 07 19:17:41 <nizovn> in general these too, but for now we're listening only flicks from top/bottom edges
Jan 07 19:28:31 <Herrie|Laptop> nizovn: AH yeah those I got working
Jan 07 19:28:36 <Herrie|Laptop> I thought it did all 4
Jan 07 19:28:50 <Herrie|Laptop> So I thought it was maybe a N4 issue :P
Jan 07 19:30:01 <Herrie|Laptop> nizovn: That should theoretically also help in getting a wave launcher working eventually right?
Jan 07 19:30:20 <nizovn> yes, but needs some work
Jan 07 19:31:31 <Herrie|Laptop> nizovn: Yeah I'm not sure we could do a wave launcher in pure QML
Jan 07 19:31:56 * Tofe proposes discretely https://github.com/webOS-ports/qtwebengine/pull/13
Jan 07 19:33:47 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: Does it work?
Jan 07 19:33:53 <Tofe> Yes
Jan 07 19:33:58 <Herrie|Laptop> Also YouTube?
Jan 07 19:34:01 <Tofe> Yes
Jan 07 19:34:07 <Herrie|Laptop> Notification sound too?
Jan 07 19:34:09 <Tofe> Yes
Jan 07 19:34:32 <Herrie|Laptop> Nice :D
Jan 07 19:34:45 <Herrie|Laptop> Anyone here has a maguro?
Jan 07 19:34:50 <Tofe> (that last one already worked, it was a QtMultimedia issue; but I guess you meant HTML5 Audio)
Jan 07 19:35:36 <Tofe> Herrie|Laptop: I have one, burried somewhere
Jan 07 19:35:51 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: Ehm it didn't with me, but maybe I did something wrong
Jan 07 19:35:57 <Herrie|Laptop> I.e. SMS notification didn't give me sound
Jan 07 19:36:01 <Herrie|Laptop> I need to check a bit more maybe
Jan 07 19:36:22 <Tofe> Ah, it may be that dashboard don't do any sound, yes
Jan 07 19:36:38 <Tofe> (because, well, we don't ask it to, today)
Jan 07 19:36:51 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: Well it should I guess :P
Jan 07 19:36:55 <Herrie|Laptop> But that's easy enough to add
Jan 07 19:36:58 <Herrie|Laptop> I'll do some PR
Jan 07 19:37:15 <Tofe> Yes, nothing too difficult. Should even work on Desktop Qt I think
Jan 07 19:37:16 <Herrie|Laptop> You had any chance to look into this TypeError undefined?
Jan 07 19:37:36 <Herrie|Laptop> You had some ideas about it already
Jan 07 19:37:38 <Tofe> Nope, not really; my first guess doesn't lead anywhere
Jan 07 19:38:38 <Herrie|Laptop> Ah ok
Jan 07 19:38:49 <Herrie|Laptop> I'll see if I can use webinspector sometime on device to see if I get leads
Jan 07 19:40:55 <Tofe> My current wild guess is that it would point here: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-webappmanager/blob/master/src/qml/webos-api.js#L140
Jan 07 19:43:33 <Herrie|Laptop> Problem is I cannot get webinspector to run on emulator... nizovn: Does it work for you?
Jan 07 19:43:54 <Herrie|Laptop> Log says it was started on port 1122, port forward is there in VBOX but doesn't work :S
Jan 07 19:47:49 <Tofe> You're right, #977 for banner sounds is still there
Jan 07 19:48:18 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: Will you PR or should I do it?
Jan 07 19:48:21 <nizovn> Herrie|Laptop: not sure how to check, never used it. but there is something in emulator's browser on 127.0.0.1:1122
Jan 07 19:48:34 <Herrie|Laptop> nizovn: OK
Jan 07 19:48:55 <Herrie|Laptop> Well basically you should be able to run localhost:1122 on your PC and it shoudl connect to webinspector in the VIrtualBox
Jan 07 19:49:03 <Herrie|Laptop> You're using LuneOS browser?
Jan 07 19:49:19 <Herrie|Laptop> Or virtualboxIP:1122 to be more correct on your host pc
Jan 07 19:49:28 <Herrie|Laptop> It's basically use to debug HTML & JS
Jan 07 19:49:30 <Herrie|Laptop> It's pretty cool
Jan 07 19:49:35 <Herrie|Laptop> Gives traces etc
Jan 07 19:50:10 <Andolamin> Herrie|Laptop: I have Mako and Maguro at home - at the office right now.
Jan 07 19:50:31 <Herrie|Laptop> Andolamin: I'm just wondering if it's my Maguro that has speaker issues (likely)
Jan 07 19:51:03 <Tofe> Herrie|Laptop: you don't hear the VolUp/VolDown keys?
Jan 07 19:52:11 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: I hear sound, it's just ugly
Jan 07 19:52:16 <Herrie|Laptop> I think it's my speaker
Jan 07 19:52:19 <Herrie|Laptop> I got it 2nd hand
Jan 07 19:52:23 <Herrie|Laptop> So could well be
Jan 07 19:52:48 <nizovn> Herrie|Laptop: no, it doesn't work for me either
Jan 07 19:56:26 <Herrie|Laptop> nizovn: Funny it works on LuneOS browser though
Jan 07 19:56:30 <Herrie|Laptop> That means it's running
Jan 07 19:56:34 <Herrie|Laptop> WHich log confirmed
Jan 07 19:57:05 <Herrie|Laptop> JaMa: You any ideas? WebInspector is running on qemux86, port 1122, virtualbox has port forward but we cannot access it on local PC via browser
Jan 07 20:01:21 <JaMa> have anyone used it since we switched to qtwebengine?
Jan 07 20:01:32 <JaMa> I didn't :)
Jan 07 20:04:20 <Herrie|Laptop> JaMa: Might have found a "solution", testing now
Jan 07 20:05:56 <Tofe> Herrie|Laptop: I get a TypeError for a call to "this.$.body.setRedirects" in the email app (in MessageDisplay.js)
Jan 07 20:06:50 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: Yeah I saw that one before
Jan 07 20:06:52 <Tofe> http://pastebin.com/ie2wCHhS
Jan 07 20:07:08 <Tofe> could it simply be the same issue for the accounts?
Jan 07 20:07:13 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: I doubt it
Jan 07 20:07:32 <Herrie|Laptop> I think the setRedirects we would address with QT 5.6?
Jan 07 20:08:04 <Tofe> why so ? Did they add it in a recent version of blink?
Jan 07 20:08:46 <Tofe> Ah no, I remember the discussion. Request redirections are more easily handled in 5.6
Jan 07 20:09:15 <Tofe> Herrie|Laptop: what kind of scenario do you do in accounts to get the issue?
Jan 07 20:09:36 <Tofe> I've added a Google C+Dav and an email account, all went fine
Jan 07 20:09:50 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: You need to try to add an account from email app
Jan 07 20:09:56 <Herrie|Laptop> I always get stuck on N4
Jan 07 20:10:05 <Tofe> ok
Jan 07 20:10:06 <Herrie|Laptop> I.e. screens on top of each other, not clickable
Jan 07 20:10:18 <Herrie|Laptop> On emulator I don't get the "firstuse" screen to setup an account
Jan 07 20:10:25 <Herrie|Laptop> I go to the 3 pane view directly
Jan 07 20:10:31 <Herrie|Laptop> While there's no accounts
Jan 07 20:12:27 <Herrie|Laptop> JaMa: No not really, because it's broken ;)
Jan 07 20:12:39 <Herrie|Laptop> Do we have some kind of firewall running in the image that might need to be updated?
Jan 07 20:13:08 <Herrie|Laptop> JaMa: SSH port forwarding still works fine
Jan 07 20:13:21 <Herrie|Laptop> So it could be something with the name or something else we'd need to fix
Jan 07 20:13:22 <nizovn> btw home/end buttons work in firstuse mode, but they shouldn't
Jan 07 20:13:54 <Herrie|Laptop> nizovn: That should be easy enough to fix right?
Jan 07 20:14:01 <nizovn> yes
Jan 07 20:15:05 <Tofe> Herrie|Laptop: I get the same issue, same place
Jan 07 20:15:37 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: You mean you can replicate or while debugging?
Jan 07 20:16:41 <JaMa> Herrie|Laptop: is the port open when you check it from inside the running image (like with netstat)?
Jan 07 20:17:18 <Tofe> Herrie|Laptop: I get stuck, and the only interesting error in the log is the TypeError, corresponding to the setRedirects
Jan 07 20:18:42 <Herrie|Laptop> JaMa: Any specific parameters for netstat?
Jan 07 20:19:48 <JaMa> -anp
Jan 07 20:21:19 <Herrie|Laptop> JaMa: https://bpaste.net/show/6ce159076137
Jan 07 20:24:16 <JaMa> tcp        0      0 localhost.localdomain:1122 0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
Jan 07 20:24:20 <JaMa> ok, it's there
Jan 07 20:31:05 <Herrie|Laptop> Andolamin: You up for some more Enyo things?
Jan 07 20:31:10 <Herrie|Laptop> It's probably something small ;)
Jan 07 20:40:28 <Andolamin> Herrie|Laptop: Yeah, I think I have time tonight/tomorrow.
Jan 07 20:41:11 <Herrie|Laptop> Andolamin: Basically to bring the compose SMS back from the Quick Actions
Jan 07 20:41:20 <Herrie|Laptop> This is legacy code: https://bpaste.net/show/f96f4545dfec
Jan 07 20:41:46 <Herrie|Laptop> I already added the needed bits to appinfo.json here: https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.messaging/commit/eb8761e237e93fdd403800dcd9a38ba0fcf6a7de
Jan 07 20:42:26 <Andolamin> Yeah - sure, I'll take a look at if after I get off work
Jan 07 20:46:45 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: Sometimes some banners/dashboards seems to disappear randomly (i.e. I have 3 or 4 open), I swipe one and others get deleted too: I get some warnings on the
Jan 07 20:46:54 <Herrie|Laptop> log: https://bpaste.net/show/7749ac3e8a50
Jan 07 20:47:02 <Herrie|Laptop> Seems some index might be wrong somewhere?
Jan 07 21:02:02 <Andolamin> DougReeder: ping
Jan 07 21:56:19 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Seems a recent change broke dashboards altogether on device (black). Seems something wrong with notifObject
Jan 07 22:08:02 <Herrie> Tofe: Hmmz seems only on emulator somehow
Jan 07 22:08:09 <Herrie> On N4 just content rendering is slow
Jan 07 22:31:54 <Tofe> Herrie: I *might* have broken it when I did my "QUrl" stuff
Jan 07 22:32:04 <Tofe> I'll look into that tomorrow
Jan 07 22:32:57 <Tofe> Herrie: for slow rendering, don't forget that one core is at 100% because of JustType somehow
Jan 07 22:33:18 <Tofe> Time for bed now :) gn8!
Jan 07 23:47:37 * elvispre notes that html5 audio now plays wav but not mp3 (on his N4).
Jan 07 23:49:02 <elvispre> I think this may be because the qtwebengine build omits the mp3 codecs by default as they require a license and royalty payments.
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