**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 15 02:59:59 2016 Jan 15 06:23:02 Morning! Jan 15 06:23:44 Oh, Herrie isn't awake yet? First whole night in months! :p Jan 15 06:24:36 Herrie, #973 works on my TP. There was one time I pressed the button and nothing happened. Jan 15 06:25:14 And, um, good morning. :-S Jan 15 06:28:42 I am awake :P Jan 15 06:28:44 Morning Jan 15 06:28:52 But only at 6:40 ish today :P Jan 15 06:28:55 It's improving Jan 15 06:29:20 DougReeder: OK so I guess it's mainly my button acting up Jan 15 06:29:28 I guess we got it 95% improved Jan 15 06:29:47 I don’t know how long the buttons were spec’ed to last. Jan 15 06:30:06 Probably not 4 1/2 years Jan 15 06:30:59 Yeah lol Jan 15 06:37:51 I could get a Nexus 6 for free from my carrier. Do we expect to be able to do a port at some point? Jan 15 06:39:27 There appear to be CyanogenMod 13.0 Nightlies for it. Jan 15 06:41:31 DOugReeder: Which Nexus 6? Jan 15 06:41:41 Verizon. Jan 15 06:42:05 … so CDMA. Jan 15 06:44:51 But Imean the moto one, LG one or Huawei one ;) Jan 15 06:45:01 6 from last year or the new 6P/6X Jan 15 06:45:46 Motorola 6 from last year, so far as I can tell. Jan 15 06:51:37 I don't really see any work done yet for it: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris Jan 15 06:51:50 Anyway CDMA is a tricky one Jan 15 06:52:41 Certainly, the main consideration would be working as a Android phone for the nonce. Jan 15 06:53:45 I suppose the most than can be said, it that a port is not out of the question. Jan 15 06:57:06 DougReeder: CM helps, however we use oFono & ConnMan for connection stack. NOt sure to what extend that works with CDMA Jan 15 06:57:25 Only reference for CDMA we have it a Maguro on CDMA which boots but no connection so far Jan 15 06:57:33 Not much troubleshooting done though Jan 15 06:57:46 From what I've read oFono should be able to do some CDMA Jan 15 06:57:46 Mmmm. Jan 15 06:58:09 But besides Verizon, Spint & some obscure carriers in 3rd world countries nobody uses CDMA it seems :P Jan 15 06:58:53 * DougReeder nods Jan 15 06:59:39 toddler is awake; gotta go. Jan 15 06:59:46 thanks! Jan 15 08:31:32 * Tofe googles CDMA Jan 15 08:41:18 morning Jan 15 09:00:11 Tofe: You basically have GSM and CDMA. Pretty much whole world uses GSM - Spint & Verizon in the US, 1 carrier in Moldova and a couple in China if I'm correct. There might be a few more but not a lot :P Jan 15 09:02:14 pcmag has a nice article which explains the differences Jan 15 09:02:33 Called CDMA vs. GSM: What's the difference? Jan 15 09:07:53 main issue for all not-preinstalled OS probably is that CDMA has no concept comparable to the GSM "SIM Card" but the phone itself is used for authentification. So it is bound to a contract, from what I understood. Jan 15 09:08:34 and of course the operators are not happy to see people mangling with that part of the hardware. ;) Jan 15 09:10:34 Garfonso: I do see some references in oFono for CDMA which seem to indicate things might work. cdma-netreg.h :P Which to me looks like a header file for CDMA network registration :P Jan 15 09:10:55 But not sure to what extend this would work. We have no way to test it at our end anyway :P Jan 15 09:32:28 ok, I see. I already don't like CDMA. Jan 15 09:38:38 Tofe: Nobody does :P Jan 15 09:38:48 Seems oFono does have some implementation for it. Jan 15 09:38:59 I guess we'd need someone to be a guinea pig :P Jan 15 09:41:54 Who wants to do a little trip to Moldova ?... Jan 15 09:57:51 I heard the wine is decent there :p You as French of course might disagree :P Jan 15 09:58:29 hehe Jan 15 10:15:09 Tofe: You seen latest Ubuntu release notes for 8.5? Jan 15 10:15:19 Fix for UI freezes due to dbus signals Jan 15 10:17:11 Might be interesting to see what they did Jan 15 10:18:13 Sent you the link by email Jan 15 10:27:13 Herrie|Veer: oh, good catch, I'll read that Jan 15 10:27:36 and yes, their wine is getting really good, they are improving the quality these years Jan 15 10:44:12 mmmh do they know what they are doing ? ^^ Jan 15 10:48:10 Who? Jan 15 10:48:10 Ubuntu guys :P ? Jan 15 10:48:10 Ask morphis LOL ;) Jan 15 10:48:10 I'm sure he can give some insight ;) Jan 15 10:58:27 Well, the log of the bug resolution gives a bit the feeling that they didn't really understand all the impacts of their fix Jan 15 10:59:39 I'm not sure it's anyway of help to use anyway. Since they're using NetworkManager and we're not Jan 15 13:01:07 JaMa: morning Jan 15 13:09:50 Tofe: When we start looking at the phone app it might be worth to see if we can bump connman (jethro will give 1.30, but seems quite some memory leaks & bugfixes in 1.31). Also for libconnman-qt we're on 1.0.74 while 1.0.98 is out. Jan 15 13:10:20 Not sure to what extend our patches etc would keep working or would need updating so that's something we'd need to test I guess Jan 15 13:13:44 Seeing morphis is actively commiting on oFono he might have some opinion? Jan 15 13:13:51 morphis: ^ Jan 15 13:24:46 Herrie: hm? Jan 15 13:55:18 morphis: Is it worth updating connman, ofono, libconnman-qt etc to latest. Commits seem to suggest lots of bugs been fixed Jan 15 13:55:36 Herrie|Veer: why not Jan 15 14:08:12 Tofe: My replacement CPU seems to have been delivered today so can switch CPU's again and have my build machine up later this weekend to test some of above :) Jan 15 14:16:31 Tofe: Upgrading the whole bit might actually solve the wonky MVNO connection appearing/disappearing :P Jan 15 15:37:24 Herrie: great :) Jan 15 16:19:10 Tofe: Yeah :) I'll play a bit with the whole connection stack to see how it behaves Jan 15 16:19:16 Herrie|Veer: pong Jan 15 16:20:37 nizovn: I was wondering if you still had the sample led code laying around somewhere. With notifications now working properly I thought it's a right time to get this hooked up. Just the bpaste expired ;) Jan 15 16:40:45 no, failed to find it Jan 15 16:43:49 nizovn: OK I'll just play around a bit then. Jan 15 16:44:21 With all notification stuff falling into place it's time to hook led & vibration up :) Jan 15 16:44:49 good :) Jan 15 16:45:15 I think we can also test ALS again maybe? Jan 15 16:45:33 That seems disabled too still from what I can see... Jan 15 16:45:42 Got some homework for the weekend :P Jan 15 16:46:55 yes, it should work now Jan 15 17:58:50 Seems AMD was so kind to send me a FX-8350 to replace the FX-8150 :D Jan 15 18:00:23 Nice service, CPU was 3 years and a few months old, so technically out of warrantee ;) Jan 15 18:10:38 booting the fresh image on a 64gb touchpad :) Jan 15 18:11:21 first-boot ...can't connect to any wifi Jan 15 18:13:01 otherwise, looks good :) Jan 15 18:16:53 HaDAk: Hmmz we didn't really change much there :S Jan 15 18:17:02 * HaDAk shrugs Jan 15 18:17:10 no bother. i hit skip and then connected later. Jan 15 18:17:11 it was fine Jan 15 18:17:27 Only added support for "enterprise wifi" which should display an additional field when required Jan 15 18:17:33 Conencting worked OK here on Mako Jan 15 18:17:37 Might be something TP specific Jan 15 18:17:53 Anyway we've been tweaking lots of small but essential things Jan 15 18:18:29 i'm currently trying to get it to triple boot to android Jan 15 18:18:33 got lune and webos working Jan 15 18:29:36 sweet! got it working :D Jan 15 18:34:52 you should REALLY let me choose a new background :\ Jan 15 18:35:03 i can shoot something custom and coffee related Jan 15 18:35:15 what we need is a luneos mug that i can shoot in a sea of coffee beans Jan 15 18:36:33 LOL ;) HaDAk: Feel free to do something Jan 15 18:36:40 I think you can change wallpaper in Settings :P Jan 15 18:36:46 i meant a default. Jan 15 18:37:00 an out of focus image of a butterfly with a horrendous background just makes me very sad Jan 15 18:39:04 We talked about changing it ;) Jan 15 18:39:10 Maybe we should do another competition ;0 Jan 15 18:39:11 ;) Jan 15 18:39:23 or let me just fix it :P Jan 15 18:39:32 people are BAD at graphics. Jan 15 18:39:36 trust a professional Jan 15 18:43:20 HaDAk: I wouldn't mind a face off between you & Benjamin LOL :P Jan 15 18:43:29 ^^ Jan 15 18:43:31 But he's more graphics guy, not that much into photography I think :P Jan 15 18:44:39 do we have a vector luneos logo? Jan 15 18:44:45 i might have a mug printed so i can photograph it. Jan 15 18:44:51 I have a PSD ;) Jan 15 18:44:59 high resolution? Jan 15 18:46:18 They're linked here: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Graphics_Work#New.2FCustom_Work Jan 15 18:46:24 On the right in the table are the PSD files Jan 15 18:46:28 ok Jan 15 18:47:33 do you have anything with the text? Jan 15 18:48:44 HaDAk: I must have it somewhere let me look Jan 15 18:48:58 I sent it to JayCanuck a little while ago Jan 15 18:49:04 Let me check my Twitter archive Jan 15 18:49:06 ok Jan 15 18:50:05 Still the skipmeister gmail addy? Jan 15 18:50:10 yeah Jan 15 18:50:35 On it's way Jan 15 18:50:39 I think that one has some in it Jan 15 18:50:40 thanks Jan 15 18:51:20 got it Jan 15 18:51:38 perfect Jan 15 19:02:35 ok, mug ordered. Jan 15 19:02:43 once i get it, i'll work on a new background Jan 15 19:03:20 http://collage.com/v/26272193 Jan 15 19:03:24 my buddy's company. ;) Jan 15 19:04:02 Post a picture when it comes in, I might order one if it turns out well Jan 15 19:04:27 well, that's the whole idea (to take pictures) Jan 15 19:04:42 i might order it in black, too Jan 15 19:13:10 OK reboot to replace CPU BRB Jan 15 19:25:57 HaDak: Black would probably look great. Like the boot screen. Jan 15 19:26:15 yeah. i'm not sure if it'll be too dark though Jan 15 19:26:18 thinking about the background Jan 15 19:26:28 black mug + black coffee + dark brown beans Jan 15 19:26:31 might be too much Jan 15 19:29:31 or it might be just right! who knows :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jan 16 02:59:58 2016