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Apr 01 04:56:50 <Herrie> Well in general we don't need Isis much
Apr 01 04:57:06 <Herrie> Our browser is standalone in QT5 ;)
Apr 01 04:57:37 <Herrie> With WebKit2 and now QtWebEngine we don't need the whole browseradapter/server model anymore :)
Apr 01 05:04:04 <EricBlade> yeah i know, i was just trying to get it to work because i thought maybe my failed attempts had done something to the libs directories...
Apr 01 05:05:50 <Herrie> Yeah and you need it for LunaSysMgr anyway I guess
Apr 01 05:06:18 <EricBlade> well, i've actually got a ton of it building now.. but i can't for the life of me figure out what the hell i did to get qt4 to build before
Apr 01 05:06:35 <EricBlade> well, i'm really trying to get LunaCE to build right now, which doesn't have a dependency on Isis
Apr 01 05:06:51 <EricBlade> but I thought that the Isis build scripts that I had deleted might've done something to my environment .. but they really haven't
Apr 01 05:07:18 <EricBlade> I'm getting some kind of bizarre craziness, where the linker either refuses to find the right libc, or the right crt1.o
Apr 01 05:11:42 <EricBlade> oh.. this might be a clue
Apr 01 05:12:50 <EricBlade> yeah.. somewhere or other, I haven't located where, it was trying to put the rootfs contents into staging.. but staging wasn't created yet.  staging is created in a later step.
Apr 01 05:13:14 <EricBlade> so, a change that i made to create the staging directory.. is what fixed it.. but i had to run it twice
Apr 01 05:13:23 <EricBlade> because the mkdir was happening after it needed to
Apr 01 05:15:16 <EricBlade> so i had put in a rm -rf before i created it, and that caused it to completely clear the thing.. which broke it further. lol
Apr 01 05:15:41 <EricBlade> the intent was to make sure it was completely cleaned.. but that didn't need to be done .
Apr 01 05:18:01 <EricBlade> i guess? a question is, can I build the Open webOS sysmgr with this too? and I bet the answer is probably.
Apr 01 05:19:28 <EricBlade> ... so isis really likes having pkg-config stuff around.. and that doesn't seem to be here
Apr 01 05:25:26 <EricBlade> this sounds ominous: cc1plus: warning: include location "/usr/include/glib-2.0" is unsafe for cross-compilation
Apr 01 06:06:04 <Herrie|Veer> morning
Apr 01 06:06:31 <Herrie|Veer> EricBlade: OWO LunaSysMgr uses Nyx and other stuff afaik.
Apr 01 06:06:40 <Herrie|Veer> So might be a bit trickier.
Apr 01 06:06:43 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: ping
Apr 01 06:10:37 <EricBlade> oh wow they really made some nice improvements to the windows command line in win10 recent builds.
Apr 01 06:10:52 <EricBlade> well the command window not the command line
Apr 01 06:11:14 <EricBlade> it has quick access to mark/copy/paste, and does colors, and fonts are nicer
Apr 01 06:11:26 <EricBlade> it's like 1981
Apr 01 06:11:38 <Herrie|Veer> LOL
Apr 01 06:11:47 <Herrie|Veer> Hey you can soon do Bash :P
Apr 01 06:12:27 <EricBlade> well i'm running bash in this right now, but the interesting part is that it'll just be running the ELF binary in Windows.  I still don't find that a whole lot more interesting, though.
Apr 01 06:12:38 <EricBlade> On the other hand, if that means I can compile webOS in Windows, i'm all for it
Apr 01 06:13:01 <Herrie|Veer> EricBlade: I doubt the 2nd tbh but that would be nice :)
Apr 01 06:51:08 <EricBlade> oh good lord, pastebin is in Comic Sans today
Apr 01 06:51:48 <EricBlade> here's what i'm getting with my attempt at building Isis with woce-build: http://pastebin.com/wr5AK7pv   .. if anyone has any bright ideas.  I've tried disabling WTF_USE_ZLIB and that didn't change anything
Apr 01 06:53:15 <Herrie|Veer> LOL be happy it isn't Win(g?)dings
Apr 01 07:25:12 <Tofe> Morning!
Apr 01 07:31:59 <Tofe> Herrie: in the end, it turns out it was a bug in wayland, not in libhybris, and there is already a commit in 1.9. I'll backport it. https://cgit.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland/commit/?id=441f9bb144efd561f0ac4bc4e672acc9703b5126
Apr 01 07:47:08 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: That's good news! I don't think we have any other blockers?
Apr 01 07:48:41 <Herrie|Veer> Any reason why not to move to Wayland 1.9 right away or that would be another can of worms?
Apr 01 07:49:39 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: I can give it a try, wayland 1.8.1 is quite old already
Apr 01 07:49:52 <Tofe> (the aforesaid commit is from august 2015...)
Apr 01 07:50:14 <Herrie|Veer> Not sure what's in the new Yocto currently?
Apr 01 07:50:28 <Tofe> Well, that would be 1.8.1, I don't think we overload it
Apr 01 07:52:23 <Herrie|Veer> I mean the 2.1 to be release. Jethro = 2.0. Not sure what they have in master currently.
Apr 01 07:52:41 <Herrie|Veer> On the move now so cannot easily check
Apr 01 07:53:04 <Tofe> I'll check
Apr 01 07:53:17 <Herrie|Veer> Might be they have 1.9 already :)
Apr 01 07:53:49 <Tofe> 1.9.0 in master
Apr 01 07:54:25 <Herrie|Veer> Might be worth to try and plugging that in :) Less work later :)
Apr 01 07:54:53 <Tofe> yup
Apr 01 07:54:57 <Tofe> I'll try it
Apr 01 07:56:05 <Herrie|Veer> Not sure if 5.6 qtwayland is compatible with it, but I guess it is. Not sure when 1.9.0 was released?
Apr 01 07:57:55 <Tofe> wayland shouldn't break APIs
Apr 01 07:58:04 <Tofe> QtWayland only requires 1.6
Apr 01 07:58:11 <Herrie|Veer> Seems Enyo guys pushed 2.7.0 out as well, so that will be some migration work for a next release. Seems they cut down the framework that's being deployed to only the parts needed by an app.
Apr 01 07:58:21 <Tofe> Yep, saw the mail too ;)
Apr 01 08:01:53 <Tofe> seems to build quite fine; I'll do a new rootfs
Apr 01 08:02:12 <Herrie|Veer> Well seems we might be able to do 5.6 and Jethro move this weekend :) Just waiting for feedback from Andolamin if he found the issue for the Pi2 not booting
Apr 01 08:02:24 <Herrie|Veer> With Jethro that is.
Apr 01 08:02:33 <Herrie|Veer> Rest of targets are fine.
Apr 01 08:03:04 <Herrie|Veer> Seeing that we didn't announce the Pi2 officially yet, it's not a show stopper but would be nice to have working.
Apr 01 08:03:12 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: did you try html5test.com with the browser ? It tends to crash on mako
Apr 01 08:04:15 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Same on TP with latest JaMa unstable. Well luna-webappmgr crashes quite often on close but that's what you fixed now right?
Apr 01 08:04:34 <Tofe> yes, on close that's exactly the wayland issue
Apr 01 08:04:35 <Herrie|Veer> Html5test.com was OK for me I think. Let me try when at home again.
Apr 01 08:05:06 <Tofe> but it was the browser that crashed on N4; I don't remember if I tried it again after the hybris fix I tried, though
Apr 01 08:06:58 <Tofe> Anyway, it's not necessarily a show-stopper for a release
Apr 01 08:07:04 <Tofe> not if it's only one website
Apr 01 08:07:44 <Tofe> But it could be that it tests an edgy feature of chromium that we didn't plug correctly for mako
Apr 01 08:11:21 <Herrie|Veer> That could be as well
Apr 01 08:13:29 <Herrie|Veer> But yeah a single site shouldn't be a showstopper :)
Apr 01 08:17:03 <Tofe> I remarked that we are still too high on cpu when in "idle" state
Apr 01 08:17:33 <Tofe> luna-next 3%, and two QtWebEngine at 3% each too
Apr 01 08:18:01 <Herrie|Veer> Yeah for idle that's quite high but well :)
Apr 01 08:19:09 <Tofe> I wonder what it's actually doing
Apr 01 08:19:57 <Tofe> the two web processes correspond to systemui and contacts, iirc, so nothing intensive
Apr 01 08:20:53 <Tofe> But anyway that analysis will require profiling tools
Apr 01 08:22:28 <Herrie|Veer> I think we currently don't suspend stuff when they're not used for longer time. I think there's something in either Trello or issue tracker outstanding for it.
Apr 01 08:27:32 <Tofe> Ok. When that will be our first priority, it will mean we've reached a pretty good mature state :)
Apr 01 08:28:03 <Tofe> Still, we're not that far away...
Apr 01 08:46:02 <Herrie> Tofe: Yeah we're getting to something that could be close to a beta in a few months I guess :)
Apr 01 09:03:32 <Herrie> Tofe: I guess the cpu eating could be part of https://trello.com/c/1oBJpKYw/213-suspend-carded-web-applications-after-some-time
Apr 01 09:57:56 <Herrie> JaMa: morning
Apr 01 09:59:43 <JaMa> morning
Apr 01 10:01:32 <Herrie> Seems Tofe found the issue with our last crash. It's fixed in wayland 1.9.0 so he's trying now if he can just update from 1.8.1 to 1.9.0 or we'll backport it.
Apr 01 10:02:08 <Herrie> 1.9.0 is in Yocto 2.1 anyway :)
Apr 01 10:08:54 <JaMa> the luna-webapp crash or something else?
Apr 01 10:09:33 <JaMa> I wonder if wayland upgrade was the cause of the initial crash as well (which forced us to upgrade Qt as well)
Apr 01 10:10:04 <Herrie> JaMa: The crash was gone, but we found another one where it would crash when we would close browser or apps
Apr 01 10:10:30 <Herrie> Which is solved by https://cgit.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland/commit/?id=441f9bb144efd561f0ac4bc4e672acc9703b5126
Apr 01 10:20:03 <JaMa> ah cool
Apr 01 11:38:37 <Herrie> JaMa: What's the latest Ubuntu you've tested for a build environment?
Apr 01 11:43:32 <Herrie> Mine is still on 14.04 and looking for something newer
Apr 01 11:44:28 <JaMa> I'm using 16.04 for some builds
Apr 01 11:44:46 <JaMa> which wasn't released yet, so I would wait a bit before switch
Apr 01 11:45:21 <JaMa> you might need a change or 2 for qtwebengine, I have them in other layers
Apr 01 12:23:46 <Herrie> JaMa: OK
Apr 01 12:24:16 <Herrie> 15.10 is OK too?
Apr 01 12:31:06 <JaMa> yes
Apr 01 12:31:09 <JaMa> should be
Apr 01 12:31:58 <JaMa> for my local builds I'm still using gentoo sysroot, but I was building LG images with all Ubuntu releases from 10.04 to 16.04 and there aren't any hard to fix issues
Apr 01 12:34:21 <Herrie> Seems 15.10 is OK. I'm mainly looking to update my QtCreator because some projects don't run on Windows. 14.04 comes with 3.0.1 and 3.5.x is buggy on 14.04
Apr 01 12:34:30 <Herrie> Seems 15.10 has 3.5.0 which is recent enough
Apr 01 12:36:19 <JaMa> have you ever tried qtcreator from meta-qt5?
Apr 01 12:37:29 <JaMa> there is 3.5.1, but unfortunately only for target device
Apr 01 12:37:31 <JaMa> not native build
Apr 01 12:40:26 <Herrie> JaMa: No I haven't tbh
Apr 01 15:11:04 <Andolamin> Herrie: ping
Apr 01 15:16:16 <Herrie> Andolamin: pong
Apr 01 15:18:49 <Andolamin> Herrie: Pi2 builds work using https://gist.github.com/Andolamin/a62b935ff09acdb132d4fa17ac6d47fc
Apr 01 15:19:17 <Andolamin> I ran into an issue building qtwebengine, so I committed a fix to meta-rpi-luneos,jethro
Apr 01 15:19:39 <Andolamin> Matches what's currently in webos-ports-setup,unstable
Apr 01 15:23:01 <Herrie> Andolamin: OK :)
Apr 01 15:23:03 <Herrie> Great!
Apr 01 15:23:24 <Herrie> I guess we should have meta-rpi-luneos in our GH repo as well?
Apr 01 15:23:55 <Andolamin> I'm fine transferring it over
Apr 01 15:24:14 <Andolamin> Probably our fork of meta-raspberrypi, too
Apr 01 15:24:47 <Andolamin> Still need to get pi3 builds working correctly. Moving to meta-raspberrypi,jethro is a step back for that
Apr 01 15:25:51 <Andolamin> Herrie: Want me to go ahead and transfer them?
Apr 01 15:27:59 <Herrie> Andolamin: Yeah why not. I prefer to build it from our account and you can just PR changes to it
Apr 01 15:29:39 <Herrie> So we don't like to repo's of individual GH users all the time ;)
Apr 01 15:30:18 <Andolamin> Herrie: Full agreement, here. Apparently I can't transfer ownership though because I need to be an admin on webos-ports
Apr 01 15:30:48 <Andolamin> Herrie: Looks like webos-ports will just have to fork it
Apr 01 15:38:22 <Herrie> JaMa: You still around?
Apr 01 15:54:39 <Herrie> Adnolamin: https://help.github.com/articles/duplicating-a-repository/
Apr 01 15:54:55 <Herrie> Look what we have now :) https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-rpi-luneos
Apr 01 15:56:34 <Herrie> For meta-raspberrypi, wouldn't it be just better to follow upstream? Seems you only have 1 commit?
Apr 01 15:56:52 <Herrie> Which we could do in a .bbappend I guess?
Apr 01 15:57:11 <Herrie> For this one I mean: https://github.com/Andolamin/meta-raspberrypi/commit/164d6ec1b054fa241e65ac4961d204edd9965061
Apr 01 15:57:18 <Herrie> And PR it upstream
Apr 01 16:30:13 <JaMa> Herrie: partially, conf call now
Apr 01 16:30:23 <JaMa> then have to leave soon
Apr 01 16:34:34 <Herrie> JaMa: Sorted it already
Apr 01 16:47:44 <Herrie> JaMa: What's the best way to rename a file in a source repo? bb.utils.movefile ?
Apr 01 16:48:05 <Herrie> We want to put this in a bbappend: https://github.com/Andolamin/meta-raspberrypi/commit/164d6ec1b054fa241e65ac4961d204edd9965061
Apr 01 16:48:51 <Herrie> The recipes-kernel/linux/linux-raspberrypi.inc I can do with a .patch
Apr 01 16:49:06 <Herrie> Just not sure how to do recipes-kernel/linux/linux.inc -> recipes-kernel/linux/linux-rpi.inc
Apr 01 16:52:26 <Tofe> Herrie: using wayland 1.9.0 fixed the issue
Apr 01 16:52:43 <Herrie> Tofe: Nice :D
Apr 01 16:52:51 <Herrie> html5test.com also behaving?
Apr 01 17:26:31 <DougReederPhone> I meant to log in earlier - have I missed any discussion of the Enyo announcement?
Apr 01 17:27:26 <Herrie> DougReederPhone
Apr 01 17:27:41 <Herrie> DougReederPhone: Nothing much yet
Apr 01 17:27:55 <Herrie> Just that we've seen the announcement and that we'll need to migrate the apps at some point
Apr 01 17:28:37 <DougReederPhone> In the short term, we'll need to put some effort to updating apps to 2.7
Apr 01 17:28:45 <Tofe> Herrie: yeah, still crashing on that website
Apr 01 17:32:27 <DougReederPhone> Apps that aren't mostly functional now should probably have the Enyo work abandoned.
Apr 01 17:33:31 <Herrie> Tofe: Can you PR the change? Then I'll do the rest of the work for the migration :)
Apr 01 17:36:22 <Tofe> Herrie: yep
Apr 01 17:38:25 <Tofe> Herrie: I PR against which branch?
Apr 01 17:45:42 <Tofe> I'd say jansa/jethro, but it'd be better if you confirm first :)
Apr 01 18:03:30 <Herrie> Regular jethro
Apr 01 18:38:24 <Tofe> But regular jethro is missing many things, like qt 5.6
Apr 01 18:40:03 <Tofe> Anyway: https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/pull/177
Apr 01 18:58:26 <Herrie> Tofe: Hmmz unstable uses Jethro
Apr 01 19:00:06 <Tofe> Well, without the two latest commits from here https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/commits/jansa/jethro it won't work well
Apr 01 19:00:59 <Tofe> that is, if you use qt5.6
Apr 01 19:01:56 <Herrie> Let me see if I can cherry pick those
Apr 01 19:03:30 <Herrie> Tofe:https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/commits/jethro
Apr 01 19:07:41 <Herrie> DougReederPhone: Most apps we have in Enyo 2 are fine, so we'll migrate them 1:1 where possible.
Apr 01 19:09:27 <DougReederPhone> I'll see if I can take a look this weekend.
Apr 01 19:12:24 <Herrie> Tofe: OK testing build running, fingers crossed :D
Apr 01 19:23:58 <Tofe> Herrie: looks good
Apr 01 19:24:14 <Tofe> Herrie: btw, the DBus lockup seems really gone
Apr 01 19:24:21 <Tofe> 2 hours and still running fine
Apr 01 19:27:19 <Andolamin> Herrie, DougReederPhone: We're thinking we'll use next-gen Enyo, stick with Enyo 2.7 or move to something else?
Apr 01 19:27:33 <Andolamin> Longer term, of course
Apr 01 19:38:10 <DougReederPhone> Andolamin, Herrie, in the medium term Enyo2.7 will be fine.
Apr 01 19:38:58 <DougReederPhone> In the long term, we'll need a better-supported framework.
Apr 01 19:40:24 <DougReederPhone> LG is not willing to put resources into Enyo for mobile.
Apr 01 19:41:02 <DougReederPhone> ... And, as a profit-seeking corporation, why should they?
Apr 01 19:42:02 <DougReederPhone> We don't have the resources to carry Enyo forward, on top of everything else.
Apr 01 19:46:47 <Andolamin> DougReederPhone: Enyo isn't going anywhere. Next-gen Enyo will look different, and porting apps will likely be more difficult than the 2.5 -> 2.7 port, but it will still be available and supported by LG
Apr 01 19:48:06 <Andolamin> DougReederPhone: If we stick with Enyo through next-gen I think the most we can expect to need to support is the UI bits
Apr 01 19:50:13 <DougReederPhone> We have some decisions ahead of us; I'll try to write a post to tje mailing list this weekend.
Apr 01 19:52:26 <Tofe> Oh, my Archlinux update brings Qt 5.6 :p
Apr 01 20:13:54 <Herrie> Tofe: I'll test on Maguro & TP pending my Mako RMA
Apr 01 20:14:21 <Herrie> Well LG also has Open webOS based watch Urbane LTE
Apr 01 20:14:32 <Herrie> If they would open source it's UI bits would be nice
Apr 01 20:15:28 <Herrie> To see how DBus is behaving :P
Apr 01 20:15:39 <Herrie> Would be nice if it's really gone :D
Apr 01 20:15:43 <GodGinrai> speaking of that watch
Apr 01 20:16:06 <GodGinrai> only came out in Korea and they've already abandoned WebOS on watches after that one, didn't they?
Apr 01 20:16:14 <GodGinrai> LG is so half-hearted about everything -_-
Apr 01 20:28:43 <Herrie> Well they copy Samsung ;)
Apr 01 20:28:56 <Herrie> So if they go all in on Tizen, there's a bright future for webOS :P
Apr 01 20:36:26 <Herrie> DougReederPhone: http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/1125
Apr 01 20:36:43 <Herrie> Added some info there I got from nizovn. Should be easy enough to add for someone like you :D
Apr 01 21:13:52 <elvispre> Herrie: I am trying the getInfo call you specify in http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/1125 but I'm getting returnValue false. Am I missing something?
Apr 01 21:30:02 <elvispre> ...I am missing a lowercase 'i'!
Apr 01 21:35:22 <elvispre> Herrie: https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.app.settings/pull/76
Apr 02 01:21:42 <HaDAk> hey guys
Apr 02 01:21:45 <HaDAk> question
Apr 02 01:22:00 <HaDAk> is there a build for the nexus 5? i want to say the answer is yes.
Apr 02 01:37:59 <HaDAk> @Herrie @ShiftyAxel
Apr 02 01:43:08 <HaDAk> but i don't see one in there
Apr 02 01:43:30 <HaDAk> aaaaand you're all sleeping or whatever. somebody tweet me, 'cause i won't be back online here until monday
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