**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 07 02:59:58 2016
Apr 07 05:38:50 <technobaboo> ka6sox, it's just on a black screen with no option to do anything
Apr 07 05:39:43 <ka6sox> well...ask the channel what you want to ask...
Apr 07 05:39:48 <ka6sox> and explain what you did.
Apr 07 05:40:39 <technobaboo> so, I just got LuneOS on a Nexus 4
Apr 07 05:40:51 <technobaboo> I made it out of two broken ones
Apr 07 05:40:57 <technobaboo> LuneOS booted fine
Apr 07 05:41:07 <technobaboo> I decided to check for updates
Apr 07 05:41:19 <technobaboo> Then, after installing one
Apr 07 05:41:30 <technobaboo> The device instantly went black screen
Apr 07 05:41:36 <technobaboo> Looked at the wiki
Apr 07 05:41:42 <technobaboo> Waited for about 1 hour
Apr 07 05:41:53 <technobaboo> And shut it off
Apr 07 05:42:08 <technobaboo> Then, it instantly rebooted to the black screen
Apr 07 05:42:29 <technobaboo> And I looked online to find that the boot loader was missing or corrupted
Apr 07 05:42:35 <technobaboo> I had the latest image
Apr 07 05:42:42 <technobaboo> And there was still an update
Apr 07 05:43:36 <technobaboo> So, how do I fix this? Any way to boot to an alternate boot loader
Apr 07 05:43:56 <technobaboo> On Nexus 5 there is
Apr 07 05:44:56 <technobaboo> webosnation had a fix for someone trying to put the nexus 4 image onto a nexus 5
Apr 07 05:45:07 <Garfonso> Update is pretty broken, sadly.
Apr 07 05:45:33 <technobaboo> I know that there is a way to flash a new boot loader
Apr 07 05:45:57 <technobaboo> But, it involves using fastboot, which is in the boot loader
Apr 07 05:46:40 <technobaboo> I couldn't find a stable image
Apr 07 05:46:50 <technobaboo> I looked through all of the lunes images
Apr 07 05:47:21 <technobaboo> I actually didn't use the link to the latest stable as I thought it wasn't updated
Apr 07 05:48:57 <technobaboo> I just need to get a boot loader on
Apr 07 05:49:01 <Garfonso> testing images are the most recent, AFAIK. Stable is update once a month (or so)
Apr 07 05:49:17 <technobaboo> I read the pivotce
Apr 07 05:49:25 <technobaboo> Yeah
Apr 07 05:49:33 <technobaboo> just like cm
Apr 07 05:49:48 <Garfonso> No idea about the bootloader, here. The key combination does not work, I guess?
Apr 07 05:50:13 <technobaboo> not for boot loader
Apr 07 05:50:22 <technobaboo> but Download Mode works
Apr 07 05:51:27 <technobaboo> On nexus 5 there is an alternate bootloader
Apr 07 05:52:01 <technobaboo> Qualcomm and LG have tools to fix this
Apr 07 05:52:05 <technobaboo> But I have a mac
Apr 07 05:52:09 <technobaboo> and they are windows
Apr 07 05:52:48 <technobaboo> wine wouldn't even begin to run them
Apr 07 05:56:40 <technobaboo> i looked
Apr 07 05:56:50 <technobaboo> and nexus 4 does not have a second boot loader
Apr 07 05:57:00 <ka6sox> when I get back we can use my windoze setup
Apr 07 05:58:15 <technobaboo> I can't even find official downloads
Apr 07 05:58:26 <technobaboo> Only on xda
Apr 07 05:58:44 <technobaboo> there's always tag
Apr 07 05:58:46 <ka6sox> heh
Apr 07 05:58:52 <technobaboo> jtag
Apr 07 05:59:00 <ka6sox> thats a non-starter
Apr 07 05:59:09 <technobaboo> yeah
Apr 07 05:59:51 <technobaboo> you need a bootloader to install a bootloader
Apr 07 06:01:09 <technobaboo> and of course we can't take it to google
Apr 07 06:01:24 <technobaboo> especially since I took two nexuses apart to make it
Apr 07 06:01:42 <ka6sox> lets wait till someeone else comes on as well..its early in .eu.
Apr 07 06:01:49 <technobaboo> okay
Apr 07 06:01:49 <ka6sox> morning Garfonso
Apr 07 06:02:35 <technobaboo> good morning Garfonso. LuneOS works fine other than the updater
Apr 07 06:04:20 <technobaboo> also, i don't think the firmware is broken
Apr 07 06:04:29 <technobaboo> it can get into download mode
Apr 07 06:04:58 <technobaboo> for the manufacturer to change any piece of software on the device
Apr 07 06:24:24 <technobaboo> so ka6sox, do you think that we can get a boot loader on here?
Apr 07 06:25:29 <ka6sox> survey says: outlook cloudy
Apr 07 06:27:39 <technobaboo> that sounds like a magic 8 ball
Apr 07 06:28:42 <technobaboo> http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/tutorial-how-to-flash-factory-images-lg-t2713833
Apr 07 06:28:51 <technobaboo> That is where the LG flash tool is
Apr 07 06:29:47 <ka6sox> save it for later
Apr 07 06:29:56 <technobaboo> ok
Apr 07 06:30:10 <technobaboo> then there's a Qualcomm thing that I just can't find
Apr 07 06:31:09 <technobaboo> There may be a way to do this for the phone
Apr 07 06:31:10 <technobaboo> https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/2loejw/help_probably_bricked_my_phone/
Apr 07 06:31:17 <technobaboo> first comment
Apr 07 06:31:54 <technobaboo> that's a n5 though
Apr 07 06:32:59 <ka6sox> !N5...N4
Apr 07 06:33:24 <technobaboo> they were released 1 year part
Apr 07 06:33:28 <technobaboo> apart
Apr 07 06:33:41 <ka6sox> different CPU vendors
Apr 07 06:33:50 <ka6sox> different ways of bootloading
Apr 07 06:33:58 <technobaboo> they use the same one
Apr 07 06:34:09 <technobaboo> i think it works on most devices
Apr 07 06:34:34 <technobaboo> maybe it auto-detects
Apr 07 06:34:41 <technobaboo> after all
Apr 07 06:34:49 <technobaboo> one recovery works on every device
Apr 07 06:35:32 <ka6sox> different CPUs
Apr 07 06:35:39 <technobaboo> okay then
Apr 07 06:35:44 <technobaboo> you're the expert
Apr 07 06:35:44 <ka6sox> one is TI the other Qualcomm
Apr 07 06:36:11 <technobaboo> lg flash tool doesn't have the exact images for the n4
Apr 07 06:36:25 <technobaboo> it has ones for an oppo with the same cpu
Apr 07 06:36:38 <technobaboo> everyone says they work
Apr 07 06:37:04 <ka6sox> I forgot the codename for a LG N4...
Apr 07 06:37:11 <technobaboo> mako
Apr 07 06:37:58 <ka6sox> hmmm...that doesn't seem right
Apr 07 06:37:58 <technobaboo> wait
Apr 07 06:38:00 <technobaboo> yeah
Apr 07 06:38:34 <technobaboo> occam
Apr 07 06:38:43 <technobaboo> the google device name
Apr 07 06:39:08 <ka6sox> you were right the first time
Apr 07 06:39:10 <ka6sox> its mako
Apr 07 06:39:14 <technobaboo> alright then
Apr 07 06:39:21 <ka6sox> so you need a bootloader image for a mako
Apr 07 06:39:26 <technobaboo> i have that
Apr 07 06:39:29 <ka6sox> then fastboot
Apr 07 06:39:30 <technobaboo> for 4.2.2
Apr 07 06:39:37 <technobaboo> fast boot doesn't exist
Apr 07 06:39:43 <technobaboo> it's in the boot loader
Apr 07 06:39:49 <technobaboo> :|
Apr 07 06:40:30 <technobaboo> if I get the boot loader, everything works again
Apr 07 06:40:46 <ka6sox> :)
Apr 07 06:40:51 <technobaboo> also, why do they put autocorrect on computers?
Apr 07 06:41:05 <ka6sox> I don't think we can get access to xloader from the USB port
Apr 07 06:41:15 <Tofe> Morning
Apr 07 06:41:17 <ka6sox> we can't pull the config pins
Apr 07 06:41:22 <ka6sox> morning Tofe
Apr 07 06:41:26 <technobaboo> morning
Apr 07 06:41:35 <Tofe> technobaboo: you don't even have access to the fastboot menu?
Apr 07 06:41:38 <technobaboo> nope
Apr 07 06:41:42 <Tofe> ah, bummer
Apr 07 06:41:44 <technobaboo> the boot loader is gone
Apr 07 06:42:03 <technobaboo> lunes trashed it with the ota update
Apr 07 06:42:24 <ka6sox> we should pull that feature untill it doesn't brick things.
Apr 07 06:42:26 <Tofe> I don't even know how we succeeded to do that :/
Apr 07 06:42:33 <technobaboo> yeah really
Apr 07 06:42:51 <technobaboo> it's fixable
Apr 07 06:42:55 <Tofe> yes, I thought it would only lead to things not booting, not bootloader corruption
Apr 07 06:43:02 <technobaboo> nope
Apr 07 06:43:15 <Tofe> ok, let me read a bit your backlog
Apr 07 06:44:13 <Tofe> iirc, the "flash_all" from Google's images don't flash bootloader
Apr 07 06:44:19 <technobaboo> they do
Apr 07 06:44:25 <technobaboo> but they need fast boot
Apr 07 06:44:34 <technobaboo> sry, autocorrect
Apr 07 06:44:40 <Tofe> ah yes, correct
Apr 07 06:45:23 <Tofe> You could get the flasher from xda's page?
Apr 07 06:45:37 <technobaboo> if I had Windows
Apr 07 06:45:40 <technobaboo> on a mac
Apr 07 06:45:56 <technobaboo> vm would be 2.7gb for xp
Apr 07 06:45:58 <ka6sox> heh
Apr 07 06:46:28 <ka6sox> assuming your HW is done we can do it Sunday Afternoon
Apr 07 06:46:32 <technobaboo> okay
Apr 07 06:46:41 <technobaboo> i din't even know if it will work
Apr 07 06:47:00 <technobaboo> it uses some deep level code
Apr 07 06:47:20 <technobaboo> Tofe, ever heard of Download Mode
Apr 07 06:47:23 <technobaboo> that works
Apr 07 06:47:51 <Tofe> Ah, vol+ + power?
Apr 07 06:48:06 <technobaboo> + and -
Apr 07 06:48:10 <technobaboo> and power
Apr 07 06:48:42 <Tofe> ok; I never knew how to use it, but I know it's deeper than fastboot
Apr 07 06:49:04 <technobaboo> it has access to even the firmware
Apr 07 06:49:34 <technobaboo> the funny thing is the n5 fixed this problem with a second boot loader
Apr 07 06:51:04 <Tofe> http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/tutorial-how-to-unbrick-n4-t2347060 ?
Apr 07 06:51:21 <technobaboo> i saw that one
Apr 07 06:51:42 <Tofe> ah, .exe...
Apr 07 06:51:42 <technobaboo> requires so much stuff that wine nearly crashed
Apr 07 06:52:05 <ka6sox> technobaboo, patience grasshopper
Apr 07 06:52:39 <technobaboo> ka6sox, it's all from xdc
Apr 07 06:52:43 <technobaboo> xda
Apr 07 06:53:12 <technobaboo> most of the stuff i found was for soft bricking it
Apr 07 06:53:30 <technobaboo> people were freaking out
Apr 07 06:53:54 <technobaboo> so there were about 1% good posts in google
Apr 07 06:55:24 <technobaboo> does wine use the exact usb devices linux or OS X do?
Apr 07 07:19:05 <Tofe> when it comes to direct access, I don't know how well wine (or virtualbox) do perform...
Apr 07 07:19:24 <technobaboo> i've run xp on virtual box and it worked well
Apr 07 07:19:45 <technobaboo> the only problem is that usb does not flow well
Apr 07 07:19:53 <technobaboo> wine allows for that
Apr 07 07:20:06 <technobaboo> but it doesn't run all of the background stuff
Apr 07 07:21:15 <technobaboo> also, the first link in the xdc post doesn't work
Apr 07 07:21:20 <technobaboo> nor the mirror
Apr 07 07:21:46 <Tofe> yeah, xda has always been a bit approximative...
Apr 07 07:21:57 <technobaboo> google took the link down
Apr 07 07:22:16 <technobaboo> and the dropbox mirror had too much traffic
Apr 07 07:23:29 <technobaboo> trying the lg flash tool in wine
Apr 07 07:24:47 <technobaboo> although it failed to download its own winetricks libraray
Apr 07 08:58:29 <Herrie|2> technobaboo: Where you got the files from?
Apr 07 08:58:40 <Herrie|2> I might want to try this on my N4 with black screen
Apr 07 14:13:43 <Garfonso> hm.. currenty update technique *should* only install ipks (and corrupt system so that it does not boot anymore). Can't see how that can affect bootloader at all. :(
Apr 07 14:32:52 <technobaboo> Herrie|2, i was asleep, but the link is http://xda-android-fix-help.blogspot.com/2015/12/solution-nexus-4-hard-brick-restore.html
Apr 07 14:33:11 <technobaboo> but http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/general/fix-unbrick-lg-g2-stuck-qualcomm-hs-usb-t2933830 first
Apr 07 14:37:01 <ka6sox> technobaboo, he wants to know what files you used to get you to the point where you got stuck
Apr 07 14:44:24 <technobaboo> oh
Apr 07 14:44:45 <technobaboo> luneos-dev-package-mako-20160405192114-testing-0-381.zip
Apr 07 14:45:05 <technobaboo> with android 4.2.2 installed before
Apr 07 14:45:53 <ka6sox> then what?
Apr 07 14:47:44 <technobaboo> used the settings ota updater
Apr 07 14:50:18 <technobaboo> gtg to school
Apr 07 14:50:31 <ka6sox> gogogo
Apr 07 14:50:48 <ka6sox> don't miss the bus
Apr 07 17:06:32 <Herrie|2> Tofe: Not feeling too well but been able to solve 901 it seems at least :) https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/commit/cea2293da83568b7bb97e88a69019d299c6c4aee
Apr 07 17:56:31 <Tofe> Herrie|2: great!
Apr 07 18:16:51 <elvispre> Nice changelog for April.
Apr 07 19:10:58 <Herrie|2> elvispre: We still have some regressions, but in general yes ;)
Apr 07 19:11:07 <Herrie|2> Hence no official release this month ;)
Apr 07 19:24:54 <elvispre> Herrie|2: My favourite regression is "Email list doesn’t display in email app." :-)
Apr 08 02:37:57 <technobaboo-remo> my n4 is still not unbricked...
Apr 08 02:38:14 <technobaboo-remo> I tried everything from lg flash tool
Apr 08 02:38:19 <technobaboo-remo> to boarddiag
Apr 08 02:38:30 <technobaboo-remo> ka6sox: you there?
Apr 08 02:40:43 <technobaboo-remo> the weirdest thing is that it shows up as "Full Jelly Bean on Mako"
Apr 08 02:51:04 <ka6sox> technobaboo-remo, for the time being you are done with trying to fix it...homework....
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