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May 13 03:21:11 <DougReeder> Who is “Whitebee”, that wrote most of the lines for Contacts, back in 2013?
May 13 03:54:34 * DougReeder mutters again “Converting an app to Enyo 2.7 involves a lot of yak shaving”
May 13 04:07:11 <DougReeder> I’m suddenly glad for the placed in an Enyo app where you don’t need to specify the kind.
May 13 04:11:47 <Herrie> DougReeder: I don't really remember who's WhiteBee tbh
May 13 04:11:56 <Herrie> I know he was around here for a while
May 13 04:11:58 <Herrie> Why?
May 13 04:12:58 <DougReeder> I’d like to put his name for the copyright on older files.  There isn’t any copyright in most of the files for Contacts.
May 13 04:13:23 <Herrie> Ah I see
May 13 04:13:25 <Herrie> Let me check
May 13 04:14:03 <Herrie> This is not very helpful: https://github.com/Whitebee :P
May 13 04:14:29 * DougReeder nods
May 13 04:16:13 <Herrie> I can't find much from him otherwise... It could be some incognito HP/LG employee :P
May 13 04:16:26 <DougReeder> Oooh, mystery!
May 13 04:23:21 <scoutcamper> I dont recall who whitebee is... maybe ka6sox or morphis would?
May 13 04:26:18 <ka6sox> I remember him but I can't remember why.
May 13 04:27:06 <scoutcamper> i remember the name whitebee but none of the background
May 13 04:27:25 <DougReeder> A very elusive coder.
May 13 04:28:43 <scoutcamper> and no DCO signoff...
May 13 04:30:13 <scoutcamper> i found the original pull request in my gmail, no DCO or any other info beyond "whitebee"
May 13 04:35:58 <Herrie> It might have at least an email address in it?
May 13 04:36:39 <scoutcamper> Whitebee <notifications@github.com>
May 13 04:36:45 <Herrie> LOL
May 13 04:36:49 <scoutcamper> merged by morphis
May 13 04:37:02 <Herrie> Yeah I see some bits in log too
May 13 04:37:06 <Herrie> But nothing other really
May 13 04:37:43 <scoutcamper> the only other one who might know would be ShiftyAxel, but we havent seen him in eons
May 13 04:38:12 <Herrie> He's alive still ;)
May 13 04:38:22 <Herrie> Actively Tweeting about games usually :P
May 13 04:38:37 <scoutcamper> nice
May 13 04:38:49 <scoutcamper> we should try to lure him back in :P
May 13 04:39:03 <DougReeder> Maybe it’s an alias for Satoshi Nakamoto :-)
May 13 04:39:09 <scoutcamper> ROFL
May 13 04:39:29 <scoutcamper> not impossible!
May 13 04:52:57 <scoutcamper> Herrie, I sent him a tweet, lets see if i can get him back on board :)
May 13 04:55:18 <Herrie> scoutcamper: I poked him a few times too, but not much reply :P
May 13 05:51:23 <Herrie> scoutcamper: How was Hawaii upgrade?
May 13 05:51:41 <scoutcamper> still in progress, t-2hrs and counting
May 13 05:51:50 <Herrie> :)
May 13 05:52:09 <Herrie> Would it make sense to upgrade OS on builder too? Seeing that 16.x is LTS?
May 13 05:52:41 <scoutcamper> thats up to you guys, we(nas-admin) are keeping everything back untill 16.04.01 is released
May 13 05:52:52 <Herrie> OK :)
May 13 05:53:02 <Herrie> JaMa was testing with 16.04 I think already
May 13 05:53:07 <Herrie> Will ping him when he's around
May 13 05:53:30 <Herrie> Should be no real rush to upgrade, but eventually a move would be good i guess
May 13 05:53:45 <Herrie> So 16.04.01 sounds like a good earliest timeframe :P
May 13 05:54:38 <scoutcamper> 16.04.01 should be mid july release
May 13 06:43:56 <Tofe> Morning
May 13 06:53:50 <Herrie|Pre3> Tofe: morning :) Congrats by the way :P
May 13 06:56:21 <Herrie|Pre3> What's the magic number?
May 13 07:23:39 <Tofe> Herrie|Pre3: thanks -- 35
May 13 07:24:15 <Herrie|Pre3> 34 myself since 21st of April :P
May 13 12:51:50 <Herrie|Pre3> Tofe: I bumped qtwebengine & qtwebengine-chromium a bit in latest nightly. Didn't seem like much shocking anyway and had some security updates for Chromium so those are always good to have :)
May 13 12:59:35 <Herrie|Pre3> Most changes were in demo browsers/widgets and some minor other things.
May 13 13:19:40 <Tofe> Herrie|Pre3: ok, good
May 13 13:21:57 <Herrie|Pre3> nizovn's fix for hw kbd worked half. I already provided some feedback in issue tracker. Seems to be an issue with
May 13 13:22:07 <Herrie|Pre3> Focus which might be related to 1099.
May 13 13:23:08 <Herrie|Pre3> I noticed we have an issue with focus on input fields recently. Not sure what causes that, you might want to try to add an account and you'll see what I mean. It seems (password) field gets focus, loses it again. Takes a few tries before you can type.
May 13 13:40:52 <Herrie|Pre3> Might be related to 1099 somehow as well.
May 13 14:13:02 <Tofe> ok
May 13 14:16:00 <Herrie|Pre3> Not sure where all this is handled?
May 13 17:03:18 <Tofe> Focus? could be qtwayland, luna next, or even qtwebengine
May 13 18:08:25 <Herrie|Pre3> Tofe: I guess WebEngine since it's mainly Enyo apps. Browser also has it but only on 2nd window, so that might be something else.
May 13 18:08:30 <Herrie|Pre3> It's both Enyo 1 and 2
May 13 18:10:11 <Herrie|Pre3> Or it could be maliit somehow?
May 13 18:57:58 <HaDAk> i know somebody is going to laugh at me, but i honestly don't know.
May 13 18:58:11 <HaDAk> alan morford runs pivot ce, right? is he in this channel and i just don't realize it?
May 13 19:12:44 <Herrie|Pre3> HaDAk: He's one of the editors. He's not the owner. That's Sören aka Pattyland if I'm correct.
May 13 19:12:58 <HaDAk> gotcha. but he's not in the channel?
May 13 19:13:04 <Herrie|Pre3> nizovn: Saw my comments?
May 13 19:13:19 <Herrie|Pre3> HaDAk: He drops by every once in a while
May 13 19:13:27 <Herrie|Pre3> He seems busy lately after he moved
May 13 19:13:44 <HaDAk> aha
May 13 19:21:42 <Herrie|Pre3> preemptive is also part of PivotCE and a few more afaik
May 13 19:21:54 <Herrie|Pre3> They all drop by here once in a while.
May 13 19:24:42 <nizovn> Herrie|Pre3: yes
May 13 19:28:12 <Herrie> Just wondering if that's enough for you to replicate or you need more instructions
May 13 19:28:13 <Herrie> ?
May 13 19:31:02 <nizovn> yes, i can replicate it. btw a tap on globe icon in second window seems to repair focus
May 13 19:52:53 <Herrie|TP> nizovn: Just wanted to know if instructions were clear. Good to know they are :-) With globe you mean browser icon in launchbar?
May 13 19:55:21 <nizovn> no, background browser icon
May 13 19:59:09 <JaMa> Herrie|TP: I've pushed few fixes for QA issues you mentioned, I don't see the unpackaged files for presage you pasted
May 13 19:59:28 <Herrie|TP> jaMa
May 13 19:59:59 <Herrie|TP> JaMa: Thnx, which ones it were? I don't have the log at hand here.
May 13 20:00:09 <Herrie|TP> For Presage.
May 13 20:00:48 <Herrie|TP> nizovn: OK so seems it might just not focus on newly opened windows correctly somehow?
May 13 20:04:41 <nizovn> yes, no focus on new windows, when keyboard is open in previous.
May 13 20:10:53 <JaMa> Herrie|TP: https://bpaste.net/show/6ebb0f6164c6
May 13 20:11:53 <nizovn> Herrie|TP: did you try tweaks app? seems it has wrong zoom
May 13 20:13:52 <Herrie|TP> nizovn: I haven't. I did notice it on some websites though. Could be the upstream zoom fix is conflicting with a fix Tofe put previously. Will need to test a bit.
May 13 20:15:23 <Herrie|TP> JaMa: Seems Presage demo program uses ncurses stuff. See http://presage.sourceforge.net/?q=node/44
May 13 20:16:00 <Herrie> nizovn: Yeah Tweaks looks wrong like this
May 13 20:16:38 <Herrie> Might be this commit. Will test it a bit over the weekend: https://github.com/webOS-ports/qtwebengine/commit/d236c5a8a34803bda6115956184398b99dbba408
May 13 20:17:23 <nizovn> ok
May 13 20:19:24 <JaMa> Herrie|TP: yes, I've fixed that part, not the unpackaged files
May 13 21:06:18 <scoutcamper> Herrie, FYI the total time for an upgrade is 4hrs if you dont have a drive fail mid-upgrade. if that happens then 20+hrs for upgrade
May 14 02:14:19 <scoutcamper> Herrie, with a bit of experience I was able to knock the upgrade time down to 35minutes on society
May 14 02:14:21 <scoutcamper> :D
May 14 02:36:29 * DougReeder checks in
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