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May 25 04:15:04 <Herrie|Pre3> DougReeder: No, not yet sorry. Maybe later today. My main pc got "kidnapped" by a friend who needed it as an emergency (presentation and software all off the sudden not working on equipment where it worked before due to upgrade from the supplier). Also ha
May 25 04:15:04 <Herrie|Pre3> d guests all evening y'day so little time/chance.
May 25 04:15:45 <DougReeder> No problem, I don’t advance very fast myself. :-(
May 25 04:20:02 <DougReeder> I probably won’t have any more time before the weekend. and maybe not even then.
May 25 04:25:10 <Herrie|Pre3> DougReeder: OK.
May 25 04:42:31 <DougReeder> Hey, how do I call our phone number utilities to turn a phone number entered by the user into a normalized dialing string?
May 25 04:43:50 <DougReeder> Say the user has entered (212) 555-1234.  That should be converted to +1-212-555-1234.  Or does it matter?
May 25 04:44:51 <DougReeder> Is that sort of thing handled by the phone app itself?
May 25 04:50:11 <DougReeder> Prefixing an area code if the user doesn’t enter one, and so forth?
May 25 05:03:28 <Herrie|Pre3> DougReeder:  Ooh that's one for Tofe, he wrote those bits.
May 25 05:03:50 <Herrie|Pre3> I think there's some formatting in the Phone app. You could peak in the code there.
May 25 05:04:02 * DougReeder nods
May 25 05:04:18 <Herrie|Pre3> But Tofe should be awake soon as well :P
May 25 05:10:08 <elvispre> My clean build did succeed.
May 25 05:15:49 <Herrie|Pre3> elvispre: :)
May 25 06:21:40 <EricBlade> hi everyone
May 25 06:41:36 <Tofe> Morning! I'm awake!
May 25 06:41:44 <Tofe> Well, mostly. I didn't have coffee yet.
May 25 06:45:16 <Tofe> DougReeder: let me check where we do that. But first, you wish to do that from Enyo, right?
May 25 06:55:42 <Tofe> DougReeder: in QML phone app, we use the function 'normalizePhoneNumber' from https://github.com/webOS-ports/luneos-components/blob/master/modules/LuneOS/Telephony/libphonenumber-wrapper.js
May 25 06:56:54 <Tofe> the latter uses phonenumberlib, from https://github.com/webOS-ports/loadable-frameworks/tree/webOS-ports/master/phonenumberlib
May 25 06:57:56 <Tofe> We try our best to stay compatible with Enyo's g11n, so you could use that too, but it is outdated and handles much fewer situations.
May 25 07:05:01 <Tofe> ... and now that I think about it, it would be better to put the normalizePhoneNumber in phonenumberlib, accessible to all Enyo apps
May 25 07:43:15 <Herrie|Pre3> EricBlade: Hi
May 25 07:43:18 <Herrie|Pre3> Tofe: morning
May 25 17:54:49 <GodGinrai> I have a question about Synergy
May 25 17:55:09 <GodGinrai> The code for Synergy was provided in the OWO source release, but not the code for any of the Synergy modules, right?
May 25 18:24:06 <Garfonso> Synergy happens mostly in db8 and the calendar/contact/messaging apps, which all is trhere. So you are about right.
May 25 18:24:38 <Garfonso> altough we rewrote all of the apps. ;) But the principle still is the same
May 25 19:00:34 <Herrie|Pre3> GodGinrai: We rewrote Contacts & Messaging. Messaging probably will need a bit of TLC but basic functionality is there.
May 25 19:00:55 <Herrie|Pre3> We also have pidgin included in the image in the back end, just things need hooking up.
May 25 19:02:09 <Herrie|Pre3> For Calendar we recently switched back to Enyo 1 variant seeing the current status of Enyo 2 and the lack of functionality in the Enyo 2 rewrite. The Enyo 1 app seems to behave pretty OK. Only some minor cosmetics here and there (like the account setup) a
May 25 19:02:09 <Herrie|Pre3> nd some font sizes it seems.
May 25 19:02:38 <GodGinrai> Herrie|Pre3: lack of functionality in the rewrite?
May 25 19:02:44 <Herrie|Pre3> Just I'm not too familiar with how all pidgin stuff hooks up, EricBlade or Filmor might know that better ;)
May 25 19:03:03 <Herrie|Pre3> GodGinrai: Enyo 2 Calendar app had no backend integration yet.
May 25 19:03:11 <Herrie|Pre3> And was lacking a lot of features.
May 25 19:03:12 <GodGinrai> Herrie|Pre3: also, I was under the impression that Synergy was a background process for which you could write modules for, and then contacts, etc. could take advantage of them through synergy
May 25 19:03:41 <GodGinrai> Herrie|Pre3: oh, you meant the apps rewritten in enyo 2
May 25 19:03:47 <Herrie|Pre3> GodGinrai: Yes there's some services in the background doing stuff.
May 25 19:03:54 <Herrie|Pre3> Like contact linker etc
May 25 19:04:14 <Herrie|Pre3> Rest is what Garfonso already described.
May 25 19:05:05 <Herrie|Pre3> I think the Enyo 2 rewrite for Calendar was started initially because the Enyo 1 app was completely broken. But Tofe did a lot of great work in Cardshell & WebEngine and stuff seems to behave better now :)
May 25 19:09:06 <Herrie|Pre3> Filmor wrote a lot of the legacy bits for Messaging plugins. EricBlade knows a thing or 2 too due to his Google Voice & Whazaaa work :P
May 25 19:09:16 <Herrie|Pre3> And he works for LG SVL :P
May 25 19:11:23 <GodGinrai> I see
May 25 19:25:11 <JaMa> Herrie|Pre3: do you still have that issue with winscp? this might be interesting http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2016-May/122037.html
May 25 19:46:21 <Herrie|Pre3> JaMa: I worked around it with another 30 day trial client called SecureFX but it lacks a lot of FX shortcuts, so if WinSCP would work that would be nice ;)
May 25 19:50:14 <JaMa> ok will ping you once it's merged in our builds and you can retest
May 25 20:06:00 <DougReederG3> Tofe, I was thinking the Contacts app needs to normalize phone numbers. But now I'm thinking Contacts should just pass the number to the phone app verbatim, and the Phone app should handle normalization.
May 25 20:15:23 <GodGinrai> DougReederG3: normalization how?
May 25 20:27:39 <DougReederG3> Dialing just 7 digits is no longer allowed in my area code.
May 25 20:28:13 <GodGinrai> DougReederG3: Dialing just 7 digits has never been allowed on cellular phones
May 25 20:28:14 <DougReederG3> So the the dialer should prepend the area code in that case.
May 25 20:29:28 <GodGinrai> hell, I haven't dialed a 7-digit number on any phone since 1st grade
May 25 20:30:12 <DougReederG3> It's a plausible thing for the user to do.
May 25 20:31:11 <GodGinrai> DougReederG3: it's a plausible thing for the user to do, but it's not a plausible thing to code for.
May 25 20:57:38 <scoutcamper> Herrie|Pre3, Tahiti should be fixed.
May 25 21:40:28 <Herrie|Pre3> scoutcamper: Thnx
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