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Jun 21 04:41:10 <Herrie> dkirker: :D
Jun 21 07:56:45 <Herrie|Pre3> morning
Jun 21 08:00:55 <Tofe> morning
Jun 21 11:36:04 <Herrie|Pre3> JaMa: I had no other way to get these includes then defining them as PACKAGES it seems
Jun 21 11:36:15 <Herrie|Pre3> I'm open for other suggestions though :)
Jun 21 11:38:26 <JaMa> what you mean by "to get these includes"?
Jun 21 11:38:36 <JaMa> they should be provided by the recipe thanks to this:
Jun 21 11:38:37 <JaMa> PACKAGES_DYNAMIC += "^libpurple-protocol-.* ^libpurple-plugin-.* ^pidgin-plugin-.* ^finch-plugin-.*"
Jun 21 11:40:16 <Herrie|Pre3> JaMa: The plugins only seem to get generated when I use the --enable-plugins, but these don't get packaged it seems in the pidgin or libpurple ipk
Jun 21 11:43:32 <JaMa> that doesn't explain to me why you would need to explicitly list them in PACKAGES variable :/
Jun 21 11:45:24 <Herrie|Pre3> JaMa: I get separate IPKs for each of the plugins when I do the --enable-plugins
Jun 21 11:45:36 <Herrie|Pre3> But these then don't end up in my image
Jun 21 11:48:35 <Herrie|Pre3> I only have libjabber.so.0 liboscar.so.0 libymsg.so.0 and log_reader.so
Jun 21 11:48:48 <Herrie|Pre3> None of the others while I do have IPK's for them that were built
Jun 21 11:49:05 <Herrie|Pre3> This is in /usr/lib/purple-2/ btw
Jun 21 11:49:34 <Herrie|Pre3> Legacy had a lot more, which I'm able to replicate with PACKAGES but that isn't proper as you said.
Jun 21 11:49:39 <Herrie|Pre3> It seems to work though.
Jun 21 11:50:20 <Herrie|Pre3> However I do get some warnings during build when doing it this way.
Jun 21 12:08:39 <JaMa> are you saying that after setting PACKAGES variable they automagically apper in the image?
Jun 21 12:09:04 <Herrie|Pre3> JaMa: Yup it seems so
Jun 21 12:09:08 <JaMa> I cannot believe that, they are installed in image thanks to RRECOMMENDS_${PN}
Jun 21 12:09:31 <JaMa> at least these 2 pidgin-sipe \
Jun 21 12:09:32 <JaMa> whatsapp-purple \
Jun 21 12:09:41 <JaMa> PACKAGES doesn't influence runtime dependencies
Jun 21 12:09:55 <Herrie|Pre3> Yeah: Yeah I added those 2 to packagegroup as well
Jun 21 12:10:07 <JaMa> you need to list required packages in RDEPENDS or RRECOMMENDS
Jun 21 12:10:18 <JaMa> then you don't need to set PACKAGES variable, right?
Jun 21 12:10:25 <Herrie|Pre3> The others appear because of PACKAGES
Jun 21 12:10:34 <Herrie|Pre3> Let me try again in a bit
Jun 21 12:10:48 <JaMa> does it show any QA warning without PACKAGES?
Jun 21 12:11:05 <JaMa> like that plugin depends on protocol without having runtime dependency on it?
Jun 21 12:12:02 <Herrie> Let me test now
Jun 21 12:12:09 <Herrie> I'm home so have access to my build machine
Jun 21 12:15:27 <Herrie> Did a -c cleanall first to delete any artifacts so takes a few mins
Jun 21 12:16:12 <Herrie> Could it be because pidgin recipe itself generates teh plugins, RRECOMMENDS won't work, since they're not available yet?
Jun 21 12:16:31 <Herrie> There is no hard RDEPENDS actually, using that would not be very correct, would it ?
Jun 21 12:16:43 <JaMa> don't use cleanall
Jun 21 12:16:46 <JaMa> use cleansstate
Jun 21 12:17:00 <JaMa> cleanall only removes also downloaded sources which is useless in 99,9%
Jun 21 12:17:20 <Herrie> JaMA: OK
Jun 21 12:17:23 <Herrie> Well it's done now
Jun 21 12:17:25 <JaMa> RDEPENDS in packagegroup recipes is completely ok
Jun 21 12:17:40 <Herrie> Seems I do have the plugins now :S
Jun 21 12:17:43 <JaMa> RRECOMMENDS even in the same recipes should work
Jun 21 12:17:47 <Herrie> I tested this before and didn't have
Jun 21 12:17:58 <JaMa> because PACKAGES_DYNAMIC says they will be created during do_package
Jun 21 12:18:20 <JaMa> only case where this doesn't work is when the dependency between them is detected only during do_package task
Jun 21 12:18:25 <JaMa> which shows that QA warning
Jun 21 12:19:15 <JaMa> like in this case:
Jun 21 12:19:16 <JaMa> http://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/commit/?id=350bd0bee460633592df3d9211b9cc15b4f9cb11
Jun 21 12:19:38 <Herrie> JaMa: Let me just make sure i have the correct version of the meta-oe recipe
Jun 21 12:19:38 <JaMa> but if you don't see such QA warnings, then it's not the case and adding them explicitly to PACKAGES shouldn't influence anything
Jun 21 12:19:45 <Herrie> Could be I locally changed something before
Jun 21 12:20:02 <Herrie> I doubt it, just double checking now
Jun 21 12:23:55 <Herrie> JaMa: Sorry was looking in the wrong tree.. Ie was checking i586 while I was building Tenderloin. I don't have the extra plugins with the standard OE pidgin recipe
Jun 21 12:27:39 <Herrie|Pre3> So I only have the 4 plugins now the others aren't there.
Jun 21 12:30:00 <JaMa> did you list them in RDEPENDS (in packagegroup)?
Jun 21 12:30:09 <Herrie|Pre3> Any logs that could help?
Jun 21 12:30:23 <Herrie|Pre3> JaMa: No should I?
Jun 21 12:30:25 <JaMa> can you show whole change you did in meta-webos-ports?
Jun 21 12:30:30 <JaMa> yes you should
Jun 21 12:30:46 <Herrie|Pre3> JaMa: Ah ok, this is luneos-extended one right?
Jun 21 12:31:10 <JaMa> where the other pidgin packages are listed
Jun 21 12:33:06 <Herrie|Pre3> JaMa: pidgin itself isn't listed due to the fact that imaccountvalidator/libpurple use it
Jun 21 12:35:09 <JaMa> you can list them in meta-luneos/recipes-luneos/services/imlibpurpleservice.bb RDEPENDS if that's where they are needed/used
Jun 21 12:36:24 <Herrie|Pre3> JaMa: Shouldn't it be RRECOMMENDS since it's a plugin, not a hard requirement for running? Or I misunderstood the usage of both?
Jun 21 13:19:18 <Herrie> JaMa: OK if I add them to RRECOMMENDS for imaccountvalidator it seems to be OK
Jun 21 13:27:22 <JaMa> Herrie|Pre3: sorry my screen session crashed couple minutes ago
Jun 21 13:27:32 <JaMa> so I haven't seen anything after my last message
Jun 21 13:28:48 <Herrie|Pre3> JaMa: I simply added them all (plugins) to RRECOMMENDS in imaccountvalidator and that seems to work and they get included in build.
Jun 21 13:29:09 <Herrie|Pre3> Need to runtime test it for qemux86 but should be OK I guess
Jun 21 13:30:43 <JaMa> yes it should be ok
Jun 21 13:45:26 <Herrie|Pre3> Let me test & PR changes
Jun 21 14:19:47 <Herrie> JaMa: Seems OK
Jun 21 14:19:51 <Herrie> Making some PR now :)
Jun 21 14:24:57 <Herrie> JaMa: Should I add the RRECOMMENDS to imlibpurpleservice as well, since that one will require them too?
Jun 21 14:29:06 <GodGinrai> imlibpurpleservice... what a mouthful
Jun 21 14:32:42 <JaMa> yes, you should
Jun 21 14:37:15 <Herrie> JaMa: OK already thought so
Jun 21 14:38:10 <Herrie> GodGinrai: we didn't come up with that... Blame Palm/HP :P
Jun 21 14:40:40 <Herrie> JaMa: https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/pull/186/files
Jun 21 14:40:43 <Herrie> That should do it :)
Jun 21 14:48:11 <GodGinrai> Herrie: lol will do
Jun 21 15:40:21 <Herrie|Pre3> JaMa: It's build & runtime tested just for you to check if you see nothing strange
Jun 21 18:21:02 * HaDAk rubs his eyes
Jun 21 18:21:11 <HaDAk> i should have slept longer last night
Jun 21 18:32:12 <Herrie> HaDAk: Welcome to the club... We went to bed at 8:30PM last night and passed out still exhausted.... Seems little one is getting his final molars, so doesn't let us sleep much or at least not in peace :P
Jun 21 18:32:36 <HaDAk> my excuse isn't nearly as bad...i went to a concert last night
Jun 21 18:32:42 <HaDAk> didn't get to bed until 1:30am
Jun 21 18:32:46 <HaDAk> woke up at 8:30
Jun 21 18:33:06 <HaDAk> did we ever get the default background changed? https://hanskokx.photography/?share&id=60
Jun 21 18:33:31 <Herrie> HaDAk: No not yet
Jun 21 18:33:35 <HaDAk> T_T
Jun 21 18:33:45 <Herrie> Which one of these?
Jun 21 18:33:54 <HaDAk> where are we at with continuing the conversation about the nexus 5 port?
Jun 21 18:37:42 <Herrie> HaDAk: I do have a Nexus 5, just no time yet to build anything
Jun 21 18:37:45 <Herrie> Well that's lying
Jun 21 18:37:52 <Herrie> Let me look at our porting guide again
Jun 21 18:37:55 <Herrie> And put stuff to run
Jun 21 18:37:59 <HaDAk> i've got some stuff built, but i'm stuck at the kernel part.
Jun 21 18:38:13 <HaDAk> of course, at this point, my webos portion is pretty old and should be rebuilt
Jun 21 18:42:19 <Herrie> I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 now so will update the guide accordingly as well
Jun 21 18:48:18 <HaDAk> fantastic.
Jun 21 18:48:27 <HaDAk> i wish i was more useful...but the guide is no bueno.
Jun 21 18:48:36 <HaDAk> once it's good, i can try porting to other hardware
Jun 21 18:59:57 <Herrie> HaDAk: Also my first attempt but Tofe said he might get a N5 too. He's by far the most knowledgable out of us 3 on these things :P
Jun 21 19:00:13 <HaDAk> i WANT to be knowledgable!
Jun 21 19:00:16 <HaDAk> i want to help more!
Jun 21 19:00:24 <HaDAk> but with bad instructions, i'm useless on my own
Jun 21 19:00:31 <HaDAk> and i don't have any other tasks to do
Jun 21 19:00:37 <HaDAk> i want to help more, but i don't know how. :(
Jun 21 19:01:40 <Herrie> HaDAk: Same here...
Jun 21 19:01:53 <HaDAk> do we have a task board?
Jun 21 19:36:09 <Tofe> back
Jun 21 19:38:31 <Herrie|Pre3> Power outage here it seems :s
Jun 21 19:38:40 <Herrie|Pre3> So will be logging off
Jun 21 19:38:45 <Tofe> Herrie|Pre3: ok
Jun 21 19:38:51 <Tofe> oh, that was quick
Jun 21 20:13:02 <nizovn> Herrie: you need freeimage recipe as well
Jun 21 20:38:01 <Tofe> Herrie: I've PR'ed a little gift :)
Jun 21 20:38:14 <Tofe> easy to do, but really missing
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