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Oct 18 04:21:24 <Herrie> JaMa: Late re-ping
Oct 18 04:21:33 <Herrie> You in the US?
Oct 18 04:21:51 * DougReeder waves
Oct 18 04:23:03 <Herrie> DougReeder: Hi
Oct 18 04:23:52 <Herrie> I'm backtracking images to see where BT stopped behaving like it should. Trying March release now
Oct 18 04:24:18 * DougReeder nods
Oct 18 04:35:36 <Herrie> Hmmz even as early as March is was finicky
Oct 18 04:35:43 <Herrie> Will try Feb now
Oct 18 04:35:58 <DougReeder> Thanks for grinding through this.
Oct 18 04:36:34 <DougReeder> I like automated tests, but I doubt you could write a test for this.
Oct 18 04:37:10 <Herrie> It's probably something smalll.. Seeing it was there in March that pretty much excludes all our major component upgrades it seems ;) So might actually be something relatively small to fix
Oct 18 04:37:34 <DougReeder> That would be nice.
Oct 18 04:38:14 <DougReeder> When people can dogfood it, these things will be caught faster.
Oct 18 04:40:46 <Herrie> DougReeder: Yeah we should probably extend testing a bit before releases to catch these earlier
Oct 18 04:41:35 <DougReeder> I wish I knew how to recruit testers, that needn’t be programmers.
Oct 18 04:54:08 <Herrie> Seems even in Feb it wasn't working properly and that's when we initially added it
Oct 18 04:54:16 <Herrie> So seems something is just broken in general
Oct 18 04:54:21 <DougReeder> Hrm.
Oct 18 04:54:25 <Herrie> I tried both my LG 730 headset and keyboard
Oct 18 04:54:41 <Herrie> My LG headset gives me audible feedback it has paired
Oct 18 04:55:03 <Herrie> And I can play audio but it seems UI doesn't behave and it seems to disconnect after a little while in some cases
Oct 18 04:55:27 <Herrie> I might have a go and trying BT directly in Qt instead of going through Settings & C++ plugin
Oct 18 04:55:29 <DougReeder> That will be harder to track down.
Oct 18 05:00:50 <DougReeder> My N4 can detect my TP keyboard, but no characters are received
Oct 18 05:01:32 <DougReeder> What’s the screen supposed to look like after pairing?
Oct 18 05:01:33 <Herrie> DougReeder: Same here.. Well QT actually has built in bits for BT ;) https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtbluetooth-qmlmodule.html
Oct 18 05:01:39 <DougReeder> Is there a checkmark on the row?
Oct 18 05:01:52 <Herrie> DougReeder: I think it become bright blue
Oct 18 05:01:56 <Herrie> Also not very consistent
Oct 18 05:02:08 <DougReeder> It does turn blue for a while
Oct 18 05:02:57 <Herrie> Yeah for a while
Oct 18 05:03:03 <Herrie> Log doesn't show anything really :S
Oct 18 05:04:45 <DougReeder> Is there a particular unit I should specify to journalctl?
Oct 18 05:07:31 <DougReeder> When I filter journalctl against “Blue”, among other things I get: CRITICAL: 01:06:12.309: Couldn't register agent at "/com/canonical/SettingsBluetoothAgent/90_7F_61_00_98_EC"
Oct 18 05:07:50 <DougReeder> and WARNING: 01:06:12.510: CONSOLE JS: Bluetooth.handleBluetoothPropertyChanged(): Ought to do something with this Devices list!
Oct 18 05:08:24 <DougReeder> It does displaye the name: HP TouchPad Wireless Keyboard
Oct 18 05:11:36 <DougReeder> For my Plantronics headphones, it knows they are headphones, but no name show up in journalctl nor the UI.
Oct 18 05:12:17 <DougReeder> .. unless I turn off BT, then turn it back on. Weird.
Oct 18 05:13:29 <Herrie> DougReeder: I just write the whole journalctl to media internal and look inside my text editor
Oct 18 05:13:45 <Herrie> A lot of logging comes from LunaWebAppManager[1541]: WARNING: 17:30:44.198: CONSOLE JS: Bluetooth.handleDeviceChanged(): name: HP TouchPad Wireless Keyboard
Oct 18 05:14:00 * DougReeder nods “I get that”
Oct 18 05:18:12 <DougReeder> My LG phone is detected, with name, and I’m offered the options “Phonebook Access” and “Message Access”
Oct 18 05:18:53 <Herrie> Most things seem to work, just somethign small seems off somewhere
Oct 18 05:19:20 <Herrie> Problem is a bit we have BlueZ4, ConnMan, PulseAudio, BT plugin in LunaWebAppManager & Settings app that all could be culprits :P
Oct 18 05:21:47 <DougReeder> Can we work from the bottom up?  Does BlueZ4 have a command-line interface?
Oct 18 05:22:09 <Herrie> DougReeder: connmanctl has ;)
Oct 18 05:24:36 <Herrie> connmanctl technologies gives: https://bpaste.net/show/53fcf6149c10
Oct 18 05:25:40 <DougReeder> Mine’s the same, without cellular
Oct 18 05:27:03 <Herrie> Seems there's hcitool as well for scanning etc
Oct 18 05:27:09 <Herrie> ConnMan doesn't do that it seems: http://www.stlinux.com/kernel/bluetooth/how-to-run-BlueZ
Oct 18 05:28:18 <Herrie> Let me first update to a recent image instead of 8+ months old one :P
Oct 18 05:29:56 <DougReeder> Is this correct?
Oct 18 05:29:57 <DougReeder> connmanctl> scan bluetooth
Oct 18 05:29:58 <DougReeder> Error /net/connman/technology/bluetooth: Not supported
Oct 18 05:30:18 <Herrie> DougReeder: You need hcitool for that, see the stlinux link and this one: https://blog.lacklustre.net/posts/Bluetooth_Recon_With_BlueZ/
Oct 18 05:30:42 <Herrie> ConnMan mainly provides a uniform status for BlueTooth through BlueZ, but no scanning AFAIK
Oct 18 05:30:56 * DougReeder nods
Oct 18 05:31:47 <DougReeder> Did we ever consider NetworkManager?
Oct 18 05:33:00 <Herrie> DougReeder: I think we did but consensus was ConnMan ;)
Oct 18 05:33:17 <DougReeder> Ok, I just know they both exist.
Oct 18 05:34:00 <Herrie> ConnMan is also used in Jolla I know. Not 100% sure about Ubuntu touch
Oct 18 05:35:01 <DougReeder> Would installing bluez-utils to get bluetoothctl help?
Oct 18 05:35:46 <Herrie> DougReeder: I think it would add little extra compared to hcitools
Oct 18 05:35:48 <Herrie> But maybe
Oct 18 05:35:56 * DougReeder nods
Oct 18 05:41:07 <DougReeder> I’m not seeing an hcitool command for turning bt on and off.
Oct 18 05:42:37 <DougReeder> Anyway, I’m off to bed.
Oct 18 05:43:17 <Herrie> OK gn8
Oct 18 05:43:20 <Herrie> I'll dig a bit further
Oct 18 06:11:51 <elvispre> Morning.
Oct 18 06:33:39 <JaMa> Herrie: pong back, nope still in Europe
Oct 18 07:19:59 <Herrie|Pre3> morning
Oct 18 07:24:57 <Herrie|Pre3> JaMa: Is there anyone besides us still using meta-smartphone?
Oct 18 07:25:10 <Herrie|Pre3> elvispre: morning
Oct 18 08:17:54 <Tofe> Morning
Oct 18 08:27:10 <Herrie|Pre3> Tofe: Morning
Oct 18 09:50:18 <Herrie|Pre3> JaMa: Is there anyone besides us using meta-smartphone that you're aware off?
Oct 18 12:06:02 <Tofe> Herrie|Pre3: that would be a real surprise!
Oct 18 12:06:40 <Herrie|Pre3> Tofe: What?
Oct 18 12:06:49 <Herrie|Pre3> If others use meta-smartphone?
Oct 18 12:06:52 <Tofe> yes
Oct 18 12:07:14 <Herrie|Pre3> I know it was used by others like shr previously but not sure if that's still the case.
Oct 18 12:40:07 <Tofe> oh, ok
Oct 18 12:55:45 <Tofe> Herrie|Pre3: is it still useful that I test bluetooth on my end?
Oct 18 12:55:55 <Tofe> I didn't fully follow your progress with DougReeder
Oct 18 12:59:38 <Herrie|Pre3> Tofe: Yeah it might be useful but I suspect you'll have the same symptoms
Oct 18 14:05:12 <Herrie|Pre3> Tofe: Conclusion is that we seem to get some kind of pairing however it seems to disconnect after a while and the indicator in statusbar doesn't update
Oct 18 14:54:53 <Tofe> ok
Oct 18 14:58:57 <Tofe> It has detected mine, with right name, paired it, but not redirected audio (I only tested mp3 in testr)
Oct 18 15:01:31 <Herrie|Pre3> Tofe: Hmmz in last months stable I get audio routed. I need to test this again with current release/nightly.
Oct 18 15:01:59 <Herrie|Pre3> When I tested it I had the volume up/down audio through the headset but YouTube not :s
Oct 18 15:03:09 <Tofe> So, said differently, direct Qt was ok, but not within QtWebEngine
Oct 18 15:03:35 <Tofe> Let me do a more complete test
Oct 18 15:07:57 <Herrie|Pre3> Tofe: Not 100% sure. My image might be a bit borked. I'd need to test with a proper image. My YouTube refused to play with my latest local image and headset paired. As soon as I stopped pairing YouTube would play. Might be some DRM acting up, not  sure.
Oct 18 15:08:43 <Tofe> mmmh... appart from the pairing "bliip", nothing is rerouted
Oct 18 15:09:13 <Tofe> and in systemui I get 'unable to connect" if I force it to connect to the headset
Oct 18 15:09:20 <Herrie|Pre3> Tofe: Yeah I had that with recent one on my side too
Oct 18 15:09:23 <Herrie|Pre3> No audio
Oct 18 15:09:34 <Herrie|Pre3> Last months one was working better
Oct 18 15:09:49 <Tofe> then we lost something along the way
Oct 18 15:09:54 <Herrie|Pre3> Though we didn't really change anything except for some systemd startup order
Oct 18 15:12:12 <Herrie|Pre3> It could be we "forget" to start something somehow :s
Oct 18 15:12:23 <Herrie|Pre3> I can have a look into that tonight I guess
Oct 18 15:15:04 <Herrie|Pre3> Or something in meta-oe or oe-core is causing issues but that doesn't sound very likely.
Oct 18 15:19:50 <Herrie|Pre3> Tofe: Hmmz seems there might be one that could be trouble. See e416832 in oe-core for pulseaudio
Oct 18 15:21:00 <Herrie|Pre3> Since this is pulseaudio specific with regards to headsets & bluez
Oct 18 15:21:28 <Herrie|Pre3> Might interfere with what we have patch wise already or maybe the plugin.
Oct 18 15:24:25 <Herrie|Pre3> I guess adding this patch and removing our 0006 one created some havoc :'(
Oct 18 15:24:36 <Herrie|Pre3> For meta-webos-ports that is.
Oct 18 15:39:49 <nizovn> Herrie|Pre3: how do you pair mako with keyboard? do you enter some pin code?
Oct 18 15:40:26 <Herrie|Pre3> nizovn: No I don't think so.
Oct 18 15:40:55 <Herrie|Pre3> I just power on the tp keyboard and it will be in pairing mode for 1 minute
Oct 18 15:42:33 <nizovn> you can try to uncomment this line: https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.app.settings/blob/master/source/views/Bluetooth.js#L1179
Oct 18 15:45:57 <Herrie|Pre3> nizovn: Will give that a go tonight, thnx
Oct 18 15:49:26 <Herrie|Pre3> nizovn: Seems HP had some magic in 3.0.x to not having to enter it but reading on webOS Nation seems that we might need 0000 on the Mako & then also entered on the keyboard itself to pair.
Oct 18 15:50:50 <nizovn> ok
Oct 18 16:25:10 <JaMa> Herrie|Pre3: I still use it for regular SHR builds (which nobody is using) so not much
Oct 18 16:42:39 <Herrie> JaMa: OK
Oct 18 16:42:54 <Herrie> Did you see I did a PR over the weekend? Could you pick this to krogoth and other branches?
Oct 18 17:12:57 <Herrie> Tofe: You seen https://github.com/qt/qtwebengine/commit/ee6f018a67b6443100a1454c9ab9a7a897289535 ?
Oct 18 17:13:11 <Herrie> Would that be of any help for some of the issues we have with these funny overlay windows?
Oct 18 17:14:28 <Tofe> no, this is about the QtWidget UI of QtWebEngine, which we don't use
Oct 18 17:15:09 <Tofe> you're talking about the calendar webengine widgets ?
Oct 18 17:16:10 <Herrie> Tofe: Yeah
Oct 18 17:16:15 <Herrie> I thought it might be related
Oct 18 17:16:56 <Tofe> I don't think so
Oct 18 17:17:34 <Tofe> it's not a positionning issue, but more a rendering issue somehow
Oct 18 17:42:51 <Herrie> Tofe: OK
Oct 18 18:32:29 <Herrie> nizovn: I retested your FirstUse code and it seems to behave a lot better now ;)
Oct 18 18:41:14 <nizovn> ok, good
Oct 18 18:41:30 <nizovn> i'll squash commits and PR it again
Oct 18 19:34:05 <Herrie> nizovn: I'm not too happy with the red links still but that's cosmetics mainly anyway
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