**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 24 03:00:01 2017 Feb 24 04:05:52 Okay, I have the latest stable running on my N4! Feb 24 06:10:17 DougReeder: Good! Feb 24 06:10:25 And how's your impression? Feb 24 06:10:36 12.1 feels a bit snappier to me somehow Feb 24 06:56:19 nizovn: Thnx forgot about that Python 3 update Feb 24 06:56:25 glibc might be tricky Feb 24 06:56:33 Need to see what's the best approach Feb 24 07:13:07 ok Feb 24 07:52:35 Morning Feb 24 07:53:26 Herrie: that might be because we directly read /system from the installed Android OS, but not sure Feb 24 08:26:12 Tofe: You mean why it's snappier... Feb 24 08:39:47 yes Feb 24 08:40:52 Tofe: Seems Pyro will give us issues for kernels < 3.2. So basically Maguro & Tenderloin :s Feb 24 09:00:59 Actually, for more details, I would advise reading *Google's* message: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/project-zero/issues/detail?id=1139 Feb 24 10:17:30 Tofe: ping Feb 24 10:18:10 nizovn: pong Feb 24 10:18:55 Tofe, Herrie: i made initial work on tablet-style statusbar: https://github.com/nizovn/luna-next-cardshell/commits/statusbar_tablet Feb 24 10:19:16 Tofe: i would like to discuss how to integrate this into our code, before i start breaking it Feb 24 10:19:59 :) let me see Feb 24 10:28:14 ok, that's quite some work to review, here; I'll comment that on GH, it'll be easier to follow. Feb 24 10:28:26 ok, thanks Feb 24 10:30:03 But generally, I think we should try having a common statusbar (it shouldn't be impacted that much, I think), and a loader for the notificationarea depending on Settings.tabletUi; we should try to reuse (maybe also adapt a bit) existing generic components like SwipeableNotification and NotificationItem etc Feb 24 10:30:43 Just one thing not clear to me: what is this "blackMode" ? Feb 24 10:30:50 in particular (for future improvements) i think we might want to move notificaions model out from notification area, as we might have several notification areas (e.g on lockscreen) Feb 24 10:30:53 ok, agreed Feb 24 10:31:35 blackMode is for dockMode and firstuse, the statusbar is basically black and menus are non-openable Feb 24 10:32:31 ok Feb 24 10:32:42 this transparent by default statusbar looks ugly with mostly black firstuse and dock modes Feb 24 10:33:37 I didn't realize we had a transparent bg by default, I always thought it had a black bg Feb 24 10:34:31 no, we didn't, it's part on new tablet style statusbar Feb 24 10:35:03 ah ok Feb 24 10:35:31 one alternative would be to have a simple black bg when in dockmode/firstuse Feb 24 10:48:06 I begin to wonder if we would need a kind of "Theme" object Feb 24 10:49:53 would be nice to have, but probably very difficult to implement Feb 24 11:57:34 nizovn: I'll look at it this week-end more carefully, with QtCreator and so on Feb 24 12:11:33 Tofe: thanks :) Feb 24 13:20:26 JaMa: Was a bit in a rush this morning so didn't have much time to check my qemu build but it seems I had an issue with mesa. I'll have a more detailed look tonight. Feb 24 13:21:03 JaMa: Seems that for Tenderloin & Maguro we'll have an issue with glibc 2.24 due to too old kernel. Is there any way we can keep using 2.23 for those for now? Feb 24 13:21:12 And 2.24 for the others? Feb 24 13:33:03 Herrie|Pre3: didn't you forget the flex downgrade in oe-core? that is one of the reasons for mesa build failing Feb 24 13:33:34 downgrading glibc only for some would be pain (a lot of broken signatures and a lot of rebuilds due to incompatible sstate) Feb 24 13:33:45 how does it break the kernel? Feb 24 13:42:50 JaMa: glibc 2.24 has a hard requirement for kernel 3.2 on ARM. For some other archs we can force 2.6.32 it seems but not for ARM. Feb 24 13:43:28 JaMa: Other option would be to migrate Maguro & Tenderloin to 3.4 kernel but that's a bit of work.... Feb 24 13:44:06 I need to double check the flex downgrade in oe-core Feb 24 13:47:14 Herrie|Pre3: ah right, I forgot about that one Feb 24 13:47:48 so we can either downgrade glibc for all MACHINEs and see what else it breaks Feb 24 13:48:33 or wait with the upgrade until maguro & tenderloin kernels are upgraded (even if it takes very long time) Feb 24 13:48:54 but it might be worth it in long term as soon we can have other components (like systemd) needing new kernel as well Feb 24 13:49:58 or evil thought drop official support for them and continue building only other MACHINEs to save some time and work to everybody :) Feb 24 13:50:26 JaMa: There are 3.4 kernels available for both but would mean some work to get them working. Feb 24 13:50:50 Might not be hard, but Tofe would be a better jd Feb 24 13:50:52 judge Feb 24 14:02:19 Herrie|Pre3: where are they? Feb 24 14:12:49 Tofe: Maguro can be found in the unlegacy-android repo. They have kernels based on 3.4 there but only for CM13 it seems Feb 24 14:13:09 For Tenderloin it might be more tricky because there are many builds Feb 24 14:13:23 So we'd need to see which one would be "best" to use. Feb 24 14:19:54 Seems Dan Pasanen (part of LineageOS it seems) has some CM 11 3.4 kernels on his invisiblek github account. Feb 24 14:23:19 He seems to be the driving force behind the LineagoOS 14.1 builds for Tenderloin so might be good to use? Feb 24 14:27:17 Question is how good his CM 11 3.4 kernel is... Feb 24 14:59:01 Herrie|Pre3: note that we don't really need to upgrade the Android base on TP, just the kernel Feb 24 14:59:51 For maguro, well, we could give CM13 a try, if need be Feb 24 15:13:02 Tofe: Yeah for TP the problem might be stability with 3.4. 3.0 is pretty stable, 3.4 might have issues from what I've read. But that info might be outdated. Feb 24 15:13:47 For Maguro: CM13 shouldn't be too hard hopefully, but should be fairly straight forward. Unlegacy-Android seems fairly active which is good :) Feb 24 20:45:30 JaMa: This is my mesa error: https://bpaste.net/show/763b28d95573 Feb 24 20:45:44 Not sure how that's related to flex? Feb 24 20:56:09 yes, that's the fles Feb 24 20:56:10 flex Feb 24 20:56:57 you need to apply that flex upgrade revert I've mentioned in webos-ports-setup commit message Feb 24 21:19:36 JaMa: I cannot find it? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Feb 25 03:00:01 2017