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Mar 02 09:24:50 <Tofe> Morning
Mar 02 10:01:54 <Herrie|Pre3> Morning
Mar 02 11:35:02 <Tofe> morphis_: do you know what would make qtubuntu-camera fail, when test_camera works ? it looks like I have "QCamera3HWI(   25): int qcamera::QCamera3HardwareInterface::configureStreams" when it works, and "I/mm-camera-sensor(   36): module_sensor_init_session:477 ois device is not supported" when it doesn't, but I don't know what I should look for...
Mar 02 16:21:39 <Herrie|Pre3> morphis: ping
Mar 02 19:04:42 <Tofe> morphis: I've now understood what I did wrong: I don't have the qtvideo-node plugin on my side. I'll analyze if we can just take it as-is, but at some point we'll need to create our own infrastructure...
Mar 02 19:05:57 <Tofe> (but I see why you needed to create such architecture, both for optimization and also for avoiding having conflicts between threads)
Mar 02 19:09:39 <Herrie|2> Tofe: qtvideo-node hmmzz never heard of that one before
Mar 02 19:10:16 <Herrie|2> Ah viewfinder plugin
Mar 02 19:10:20 <Herrie|2> That's useful
Mar 02 19:10:35 <Herrie|2> The Android camera bits are a bit unlogical at times
Mar 02 19:10:51 <Herrie|2> But I guess when camera works we can also use the LED flash as a torch :P ?
Mar 02 19:11:13 <Herrie|2> Because it's not considered a LED by hybris if I recall correctly
Mar 02 19:11:18 <Herrie|2> But part of camera infra
Mar 02 19:13:12 <Tofe> Herrie|2: neither did I :)
Mar 02 19:13:37 <Tofe> Herrie|2: yes, flash should work as well
Mar 02 19:15:06 <Herrie|2> :D
Mar 02 19:15:15 <Herrie|2> Phone as flashlight, another useful feature LOL :P
Mar 02 19:15:24 <Herrie|2> Use it quite often on my Pre 3 :P
Mar 02 19:15:41 <Tofe> Herrie|2: right now I'm mainly seeing that their qtvideo-node plugin is being used by all kind of video streams (camera, but also films, etc)
Mar 02 19:16:18 <Tofe> which means it depends on another piece of Ubuntu software, which abstracts this
Mar 02 19:16:38 <Tofe> That's where I'd like to draw the line: we should have our own abstraction
Mar 02 19:17:25 <Tofe> Othewise we'll just end up pulling the whole Ubuntu multimedia infrastructure :p
Mar 02 19:20:31 <Tofe> I'll try to put in place a little recipe for qtvideo-node, with a simple patch to disable the video sink abstraction and only keep the camera stuff
Mar 02 19:25:07 <Herrie|2> Tofe: Yeah that seems a bit much to get their whole mm infra
Mar 02 19:25:14 <Herrie|2> We shouldn't need it really
Mar 02 19:25:24 <Herrie|2> It probably has a lot of telepathy stuff etc
Mar 02 19:26:10 <Tofe> It'll overlap with ours, and it probably also has Mir integration, which we don't need at all
Mar 02 19:27:49 <Herrie|2> Yup :P
Mar 02 19:58:23 <Tofe> Herrie: and... it works!
Mar 02 19:58:53 <Tofe> I just have a little rotation issue, but it looks like it's a big classic with embedded cameras
Mar 02 20:24:49 <Herrie|TP> Tofe: https://liliputing.com/2017/02/moto-mod-brings-slider-keyboard-moto-z-smartphones-crowdfunding.html
Mar 02 20:25:06 <Herrie|TP> Too bad it's landscape, but well :-P
Mar 02 20:25:30 <Herrie|TP> Getting a port for it would be easier compared to any BB :-P
Mar 02 20:25:38 <Herrie|TP> GodGinrai: ^
Mar 02 20:26:04 <Tofe> well we'll have to work on that bluetooth keyboard thing ;)
Mar 02 20:26:35 <Tofe> (though I think it shouldn't be that hard to get it working)
Mar 02 20:48:30 <Tofe> Herrie|TP: https://github.com/Tofee/luneos-qtvideo-node
Mar 02 20:52:59 <GodGinrai> Herrie|TP: neat
Mar 02 20:53:12 <GodGinrai> Herrie|TP: although, I inherently don't trust anything on Indiegogo
Mar 02 20:53:23 <GodGinrai> I've never seen anything successful and/or nonshady on there
Mar 02 20:57:51 <Tofe> Herrie|TP: https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/pull/215 <-- for the corresponding recipe.
Mar 02 20:59:10 <Tofe> GodGinrai: do you know if the webOS's camera app was a native Qt app, or a web app ?
Mar 02 20:59:55 <Tofe> I guess it would anyway be nice to be able to integrate the camera into any luneos app...
Mar 02 21:05:05 <Herrie|TP> Tofe: Quite suee
Mar 02 21:05:12 <Herrie|TP> sure it was web
Mar 02 21:05:24 <Herrie|TP> Mojo/Enyo probably
Mar 02 21:05:43 <Tofe> with a plugin somewhere then?
Mar 02 21:05:45 <Herrie|TP> I think there was a camera API introduced in 3.x
Mar 02 21:06:16 <Tofe> ok
Mar 02 21:06:35 <Tofe> well, for the moment, I only have support for Qt apps :p
Mar 02 21:07:31 <Tofe> And we'll see in the coming days, but we definitely need to find a way to organize all these little modifications I did on the Android side
Mar 02 21:08:47 <Tofe> I can fork frameworks/native and frameworks/av, but maybe there's a smarter way
Mar 02 21:13:40 <Tofe> I guess com.palm.app.camera is still closed source...
Mar 02 21:14:46 <Tofe> I would be interested in their API and also an overview of how they integrate it with webkit...
Mar 02 21:14:58 <GodGinrai> Tofe: I'm not sure, but I would assume a Qt app.  I don't think HTML video was far enough along to properly work for a camera app back then
Mar 02 21:15:55 <Tofe> GodGinrai: could it have been hybrid, somehow ? I see there are plenty of patches for this app
Mar 02 21:16:46 <Tofe> Which patch things like controls-assistant.js etc
Mar 02 21:17:35 <Herrie> Tofe: Checking
Mar 02 21:17:52 <Herrie> Tofe: I think it was pure Enyo really
Mar 02 21:20:12 <Herrie> Seems pure JS to me
Mar 02 21:21:21 <Tofe> ok, impressive :)
Mar 02 21:21:43 <Herrie> Tofe: https://bpaste.net/show/04c3e4b9d47c
Mar 02 21:21:45 <Herrie> This is the app.js
Mar 02 21:21:54 <Herrie> Which is 38kb
Mar 02 21:22:03 <Herrie> There's plenty of small few KB JS files for other things
Mar 02 21:22:05 <Herrie> This is in 3.x
Mar 02 21:22:20 <Tofe> Looks like enyo.Video is the key
Mar 02 21:24:37 <Herrie> I think underneath it uses webkit mediacapture API
Mar 02 21:24:57 <Tofe> yes, it's HTML video node, so directly handled by the browser
Mar 02 21:25:56 <Tofe> I have no idea how this works. But I'm sure it's complicated :)
Mar 02 21:26:42 <Tofe> I can only dream that Qt has hooked in their media capabilities...
Mar 02 21:26:42 <Herrie> Tofe: https://github.com/enyojs/enyo-1.0/tree/52886009e73b665a94a65c5a66b5f285d2cf321d/framework/lib/mediacapture
Mar 02 21:27:11 <Herrie> There's some comments in there
Mar 02 21:28:05 <Herrie> I guess this is the bit from Ubuntu you just removed :P https://github.com/enyojs/enyo-1.0/blob/52886009e73b665a94a65c5a66b5f285d2cf321d/framework/lib/mediacapture/helper/MediaCaptureProxyHelper.js
Mar 02 21:28:13 <Herrie> That's what was in legacy webOS :P
Mar 02 21:28:24 <Herrie> name: "mediaServerProxy", kind: "PalmService", service: "palm://com.palm.mediad/service/"
Mar 02 21:28:54 <Herrie> Let me see what's behind com.palm.mediad
Mar 02 21:29:44 <Tofe> yes, it looks like a part of the multimedia chain
Mar 02 21:32:52 <Herrie> Tofe: https://bpaste.net/show/d16871cc95d1
Mar 02 21:33:11 <Herrie> That's in the usr/palm/frameworks/mediacapture
Mar 02 21:33:16 <Herrie> At least this is part of that
Mar 02 21:35:11 <Tofe> looks like it's hooked to gstreamer behind the scenes
Mar 02 21:35:29 <Tofe> (but I guess we are, too)
Mar 02 21:36:26 <Tofe> Anyway, I'll looks at that later, once I've cleaned up the Android build situation :)
Mar 02 21:45:19 <GodGinrai> wow
Mar 02 21:45:27 <GodGinrai> I'm actually surprised to know it was Enyo
Mar 02 21:45:38 <GodGinrai> given how horrible HTML5 video was back when that app was made
Mar 02 21:53:45 <Herrie|TP> GodGinrai: Well looks like they had some binary behind the scenes too. But probably gstreamer & webkit hooks mainly.
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