**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 20 03:00:02 2017 Oct 20 06:50:32 Morning! Oct 20 07:40:31 Morning! Oct 20 07:55:49 Tofe: Any clues for this? webos-keyboard: webos-keyboard/qml/keys/UI.qml:27: ReferenceError: maliit_input_method is not defined Oct 20 07:56:11 Trying to follow up on this: http://forums.webosnation.com/luneos/331851-how-access-symbols-luneos-keyboard-mobile.html Oct 20 07:57:01 Ah wait it works when I select a target Oct 20 08:00:02 I guess I'll add the ^ and will update our targets as well, i.e. remove the a500, grouper, maguro, add qemux86 and Hammerhead? Oct 20 08:06:16 Herrie|Laptop: we don't have "^" on the keyboard ? Oct 20 08:06:37 also I didn't understand you last sentence: don't we already have support for qemux86 and hammerhead? Oct 20 08:08:03 Tofe: We don't have it in our mock system ;) Oct 20 08:09:02 https://github.com/webOS-ports/webos-keyboard/blob/master/tests/keyboard-test/LunaNext/Common/SettingsStub.qml#L29 Oct 20 08:09:09 And it seems we don't have ^ on the phone keyboard Oct 20 08:09:13 But we do have all the oher ones :P Oct 20 08:12:33 https://github.com/webOS-ports/webos-keyboard/blob/master/qml/languages/Keyboard_symbols_phone.qml#L68 Oct 20 08:22:31 ah ok; well feel free to do the modification yes Oct 20 08:45:33 I'll PR something Oct 20 09:17:13 Tofe: You know how I can avoid the qmlc and jsc files to be generated? They make my repos look messy :P Oct 20 09:25:11 Herrie|Laptop: you can't... but you can add it to .gitignore Oct 20 09:25:45 (there may be an env. variable to disable the caching, but I'm not so sure) Oct 20 09:25:50 Tofe: Ah OK Oct 20 09:25:55 Thnx will try .gitignore Oct 20 09:26:24 Tofe: You seen http://blog.qt.io/blog/2017/05/31/performance-improvements-with-qt-5-9-lts/ ? Oct 20 09:26:28 Looks quite impressive :D Oct 20 09:32:31 yup :) Oct 20 09:32:56 when are they going to implement anything from the last several years in javascript engine though :-S Oct 20 09:33:25 EricBlade: Like what? Oct 20 09:35:12 oh, just about anything added to Javascript since around the time of Node v0.10 Oct 20 09:36:04 I just wonder why you'd need that? Oct 20 09:36:25 DMikeyAnderson had Enyo running inside of QT sometime I think Oct 20 09:36:45 it doesn't have things like Buffer or typed arrays, the implementation of XMLHttpRequest is even lagged behind, and that I don't think has undergone any official changes in a decade . . . Oct 20 09:37:19 https://github.com/dmikey/enyo-native Oct 20 11:54:13 EricBlade: are you talking about Qt's JS engine ? Oct 20 11:58:07 Tofe: It seems so yes Oct 20 12:01:15 but it's Chromium's, if I'm correct Oct 20 12:08:52 Herrie|Laptop: https://github.com/qmlweb/qmlweb#web-components hehe Oct 20 12:16:19 However I didn't fully catch the point of exposing QtWebEngine via this mechanism. Oct 20 12:18:52 Tofe: I think this is more of a web-based simple replacement of QtCreator ;) Oct 20 12:19:05 I.e. you can mimic how certain QML would look like :) Oct 20 14:50:11 Hmmz seems that we're missing a few more chars on phone VKB Oct 20 14:50:14 Will have a play ;) Oct 20 14:50:23 To see what's the nicest solution Oct 20 14:50:34 I have 11 to add still it seems :P Oct 20 14:56:14 Herrie|Laptop: ok :) Oct 20 14:56:37 Seems we miss ~`^{}[]\|<> Oct 20 15:01:18 But only on phone vkb. They're not very commonly used anyway but would be good to have nevertheless Oct 20 15:52:51 JaMa: Hi :) Oct 20 15:53:03 We have a small PR pending in meta-smartphone for when you got a minute Oct 20 15:54:04 ok, will check it soon Oct 20 15:54:23 Herrie|Laptop: there were 2 smaller issues with the qt* in last build, but both might be pseudo issues Oct 20 15:54:30 not related to the actual upgrade Oct 20 15:55:04 JaMa: Some ogs? Oct 20 15:55:08 logs Oct 20 16:00:27 see the report on ML Oct 20 16:02:54 You mean the glibc-locale? Oct 20 16:03:25 no qtbase and qtscript Oct 20 16:04:54 I don't think I'm on that ml Oct 20 16:06:54 oe-devel or oe-core the report from 2017-10-18? Oct 20 16:12:54 I cannot find it in archives here Oct 20 16:14:37 qtbase we build as well Oct 20 16:14:48 Not sure about qtscript Oct 20 16:15:38 hello Oct 20 16:16:19 oddssodds: Hi Oct 20 16:16:22 was thinking of trying out luneos again. How close to a daily driver is it? what's not working. Oct 20 16:16:46 Most things work Oct 20 16:17:00 What device? Touchpad? Oct 20 16:17:12 so telephony services and messaging work? Oct 20 16:17:25 thinking nexus 5 Oct 20 16:17:51 Telephony basics should work. SMS and some IM too Oct 20 16:18:08 Messaging needs some polishing still though Oct 20 16:18:31 But you could sideload legacy IPK ;) Oct 20 16:18:51 Email, Calendar, Contacts should work Oct 20 16:19:20 Yea, they post all the changes on their monthly release, I just wish they had a chart at the bottom of what level of function everything was at Oct 20 16:19:28 Camera works, sound, wifi, data too (though depends on operator a bit) Oct 20 16:19:38 i am on tmobile Oct 20 16:19:43 That's what we should write up indeed Oct 20 16:19:50 tmobile us? Oct 20 16:19:54 yep Oct 20 16:20:58 are you running is for your daily phone? Oct 20 16:21:30 Not yet Oct 20 16:21:47 It's not daily driver material Oct 20 16:21:58 yea bit scary. not afraid of a little rough, but can't be crashed Oct 20 16:22:09 But quite useable Oct 20 16:22:23 Well that we cannot guarantee Oct 20 16:22:37 It might reboot sometimes Oct 20 16:22:38 i totally get it Oct 20 16:23:07 Though that's mainly UI not whole phone Oct 20 16:23:33 And it's quick with that (few secs) Oct 20 16:23:55 Not long like on luna restart on legacy devices Oct 20 16:23:58 kids need a new phone, so was going to give them my iphone, which can't be jailbroken Oct 20 16:25:07 We can always use testing feedback as well Oct 20 16:25:27 cool let me see if i can dig up a nexus 5. Oct 20 16:25:31 We mainly do unit testing, not a lot of daily use & stress testing Oct 20 16:26:05 this project has been moving forward for years. what's the goal at this point? Oct 20 16:26:05 A bit here and there but with more testing you'll find more bugs/issues Oct 20 16:26:56 Fair question, we're getting better with each release ;) Oct 20 16:28:58 I get that. But, if it was done today, what would you do with it? open source anyone can use.... flog it to an android producer? Oct 20 16:30:24 It's a hobby project Oct 20 16:31:00 That's why we're still around. FirefoxOs, Ubuntu Touch, BB10 not anymore ;) Oct 20 16:32:08 And those had commercial backers Oct 20 16:32:34 Herrie|Laptop: http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2017-October/143553.html Oct 20 16:33:12 yea, i tried ubuntu touch..... that was rough Oct 20 16:35:01 JaMa: Those could be small issues in copying files Oct 20 16:35:27 It seems that some cell phone company would jump at using this os, if they were trying to make their way into the limelight. Not sure if that would be allowed Oct 20 16:38:55 JaMa: Thnx for merge Oct 20 16:41:03 Herrie|Laptop: I did small upgrade in meta-raspberrypi as well, will trigger new testing builds now Oct 20 16:41:16 or do you have some other pending changes you want to process first? Oct 20 16:42:37 No go ahead Oct 20 17:07:28 Tofe: I was referring to the Javascript that is used in QML (i think they called the engine "v4" at one point). maybe they have done some updates, i haven't been paying close attention since 5.7, though. Oct 20 18:28:24 https://github.com/shr-distribution/meta-smartphone/pull/41 hop hop Oct 20 18:39:04 Tofe: Ooh nice :D Oct 20 18:40:12 The solution should be fairly identical for mako Oct 20 18:42:27 :) Oct 20 18:42:41 TP might be a little different but shouldn't be too much Oct 20 18:43:22 I don't know :) We don't have these bluetooth patches either Oct 20 18:43:42 But, well, with a bit of luck, bluez5 is bluez5 Oct 20 18:44:18 Tofe: Ah true Oct 20 18:44:22 I should have a look for those Oct 20 18:44:29 Just got a bit sidetracked Oct 20 18:44:52 Herrie: no rush, let's take it step by step **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Oct 21 03:00:01 2017