**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 25 03:00:06 2018 Apr 25 05:46:57 Morning! Apr 25 07:41:02 morning Apr 25 07:50:08 Morning Apr 25 16:47:26 Morning ;) Apr 25 17:51:06 elvispre: Hi! Apr 25 17:51:38 Herrie: I got a most surprising email this morning :) Apr 25 17:52:12 elvispre: Yeah LOL ;) Apr 25 17:52:25 I thought I'll reach out to some devs & people involved Apr 25 17:53:45 Absolutely. What is the idea? Who has what to say to whom? (Perhaps working that out is the whole point.) Apr 25 17:54:30 Yeah well LG wants people to do legwork and we like LG's legwork ;) Apr 25 17:54:33 So there's common interest Apr 25 17:55:27 webOS OSE is barebone minimum and completely useless for new devs, but it has 4 years of updated code for all luna, db8 etc components ;) Apr 25 17:55:33 So they're interested to encourage our interest in what they're doing. Apr 25 17:55:34 That are very useful to us in general :P Apr 25 17:57:07 As it happens, I have a Raspberry Pi 3 (3+, actually) new in its box waiting for me to give their webOS OSE a try. Apr 25 17:58:09 :) Apr 25 17:58:14 :) Apr 25 17:58:16 I would have started that a week ago but it turned out that my SD card reader was too old so I had to wait for a new one to arrive (yesterday) Apr 25 18:38:50 elvispre: Well it's extremely barebone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98Sthe-JB4U Apr 25 18:43:52 i've tried qt 5.9.5 on webos as well, and it seems they finally fixed the viewport bug in qtwebengine, so we can now drop our workaround Apr 25 18:44:10 nizovn: Ooh nice :) Apr 25 18:44:26 nizovn: We have qemux86 crashing but Tofe is looking into that Apr 25 18:44:36 Seems it was something between 5.9.3 and 5.9.4 that caused it Apr 25 18:45:03 ok Apr 25 18:45:28 Both luna-appmanager and luna-webappmanager crash with some chrome error Apr 25 18:45:38 So no QML and no Enyo apps, so that's not very helpful :P Apr 25 18:47:07 seems we get issues when upgrading qt quite often.. Apr 25 18:47:27 even in bug fix releases.. Apr 25 18:48:44 Well we use QT in a way that little others do I guess Apr 25 18:48:52 And they have 1000's of bugs :P Apr 25 18:49:13 So when they fix things they might fix some of the things we had patches for, but differently etc Apr 25 18:49:48 But yeah bugfix releases shouldn't cause many issues normally Apr 25 18:49:59 It's mainly the Chromium updates that are a pain Apr 25 19:17:25 well, right now, I'm struggling to build libglibc... Apr 25 19:17:40 oh wait Apr 25 19:17:49 my bad Apr 25 19:19:35 I had a remaining bb file in meta-wop, I don't know where it came from Apr 25 19:20:13 Hehe Apr 25 19:20:24 I guess from when you where helping me with ofono? Apr 25 19:20:45 yes, that must be it Apr 25 19:21:12 ok now I activated deep debug infos for qtwebengine, it'll be more helpful I hope Apr 25 19:23:19 :d Apr 25 19:25:09 elvispre: webOS OSE currently doesn't work on 3+ Apr 25 19:25:29 Herrie: you meant between 5.9.4 and 5.9.5? Apr 25 19:26:02 JaMa: yes I guess he meant that :) Apr 25 19:48:06 JaMa: No between 5.9.3 and 5.9.4 it seems Apr 25 19:48:13 We just didn't check it at our end Apr 25 19:48:24 Since we mainly toyed with target devices Apr 25 19:48:50 And I had an old qemux86 at my end Apr 25 19:49:37 Build 514 worked, 516 and later not Apr 25 19:49:54 Change between them was https://github.com/webOS-ports/webos-ports-setup/commit/088559d6caa660f83df6eb25db70f0f02360496c Apr 25 19:50:11 JaMa: Any idea how to debug bootloop in qemu? Apr 25 19:50:26 Trying this OSE migration and got it to bootloop now :S Apr 25 19:51:17 Well I mean in VirtualBox qemux86 image Apr 25 19:55:20 trying to run webOS OSE qemux86 or LuneOS image with VirtualBox? Apr 25 19:55:26 OSE doesn't work in VirtualBox anymore Apr 25 19:55:46 JaMa: oh, why ? Apr 25 19:56:03 ah maybe this opengl thing Apr 25 19:56:15 using virglrenderer from qemu Apr 25 19:56:24 ok yes Apr 25 19:56:45 which isn't enabled in any Linux distro.. so you either need to build your own qemu Apr 25 19:57:07 or qemu-native with couple modifications Apr 25 19:57:21 for oe-core I have jansa/qemu branch with most changes, but still doesn't work right Apr 25 19:58:06 JaMa: LuneOS with OSE changes Apr 25 19:58:18 I must have messed up something with systemd somewhere maybe just not sure where Apr 25 19:58:35 So LuneOS pyro with updated OSE components Apr 25 19:58:48 do you get serial console from vbox? Apr 25 19:59:19 JaMa: Oh, I thought 3+ would just be a bit faster. Thanks for the tip-off. (I might as well give it a go anyway.) Apr 25 20:00:04 elvispre: for it to work you need to backport couple changes from recent meta-raspberrypi Apr 25 20:00:52 I have changes for it, but it won't be included in OSE soon, because new kernel curently breaks graphics Apr 25 20:01:18 in OSE.. it works fine without webOS :) Apr 25 20:07:29 :-) Apr 25 20:10:08 JaMa: You mean if I can putty in or... ? Apr 25 20:11:59 Herrie: I meant the serial console, over the pipe in linux, not sure if you can do something like that with putty (I assume you're in windows) Apr 25 20:12:44 Herrie: or you can just boot it with qemu where getting the serial line is a bit easier ctrl+alt+f3 should work Apr 25 20:13:04 JaMa: In Windows here Apr 25 20:13:20 Herrie: and with LuneOS you won't get the graphics (vboxvideo/uvesafb won't work well with QEmu), but at least you should get the boot output Apr 25 20:13:39 JaMa: Ah seems I can raw output to file Apr 25 20:13:45 serial console that is Apr 25 20:13:47 Herrie: for one-way output from serial line you can IIRC configure vbox to just save it to text file Apr 25 20:14:09 yes, you won't be able to login with that, but it might show you where the error is Apr 25 20:14:41 with pipe you can do two-way, e.g. to use GNU Screen to connect to the shell in vbox Apr 25 20:14:48 if it boots that far.. Apr 25 20:14:51 ls-hubd segfaulting Apr 25 20:14:55 That explains Apr 25 20:15:02 Must be a faulty change at my end **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Apr 26 03:00:03 2018