**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 22 03:01:03 2019 Apr 22 17:50:40 Interesting: luna-webappmanager doesn't have the black surface issue we see with qml apps... Apr 22 17:51:06 That might be a first step towards understanding what's going on... or not **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Apr 23 02:59:57 2019