**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 13 02:59:58 2020 May 13 05:03:33 JaMa: I cannot find any references of a 2990wx with 8*32 anywhere so hard to say except for theory for now May 13 05:04:08 Prices dropped significantly though, 8*32 is less vs what I paid for 8*16 May 13 06:08:46 Hi. Successfully built Halium system.img. How to proceed next? Herrie provided this script https://bpa.st/NLGA. Should i run that script now? May 13 06:09:26 * bt40 hopes Herrie guides this time also with his wonderful skills May 13 06:10:08 bt40: You'd need to tar that up as per part of the script line 62 May 13 06:10:23 done May 13 06:10:31 tar generated May 13 06:10:52 OK need to walk my dog, back in 5-10 mins May 13 06:11:02 * bt40 thanks Herrie for his support May 13 06:18:14 bt40: Basically you follow: https://webos-ports.org/wiki/Build_for_Hammerhead#Setup_the_build_environment May 13 06:19:11 before the "MACHINE=hammerhead bb luneos-dev-package" you need to add in various bits for your device and change hammerhead into your device name May 13 06:21:02 The things you need to add are in meta-smartphone and meta-webos-ports layer: Similar to what was done for Rosy: https://github.com/shr-distribution/meta-smartphone/commit/41aba2559d7ee484e43367f1260a02a66290c107#diff-230422b665b241aed4c8aea6182a0b6b May 13 06:22:12 And https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/commit/2e3da5ceb0f10b02ffc8195d610dfc8deea7fe92#diff-b78c3ee78817ee6ee61452dc7d1e8f1b May 13 06:22:15 That's roughly it May 13 06:22:23 Then you should be able to build something May 13 06:25:56 ok, will update here once i coover these steps May 13 06:26:13 thaks buddy......really appreciate your guidance May 13 06:28:10 bt40: No worries, if any questions, shoot May 13 06:28:37 JaMa: Seems 2:47 is the quickest this time around with 112GB: https://bpa.st/BCFA May 13 06:34:11 JaMa: Interesting to see that Optane seems to help you a lot with fetching times, which is weird imho? May 13 06:35:20 Optane doesn't offer much benefits for the rest though it seems, not worth the price imho. Better spent on 1TB extra M.2 SSD ;) May 13 07:29:17 Morning! May 13 09:48:04 Herrie: that's true that it's cheaper, but IMHO you don't need 256G for 64 threads, so 4x32G would be enough RAM and with much faster timings than what you would use with 8x32 or currently 8x16 May 13 09:49:19 Herrie: the only advantage is Optane is higher IOPS, which might help with many small fetches done in parallel (e.g. with those 128 bb threads) May 13 09:49:55 Herrie: he was using it for swap as well in the end, because 128G ram is too small for 128 threads May 13 09:55:34 JaMa: ah ok May 13 09:55:55 But I saw you also have optane in your 3970? May 13 09:56:17 Or I saw it wrong? Those are not your bench results? May 13 10:46:00 no, I have gigabyte gen4 nvme only May 13 10:51:57 Ah ok May 13 10:55:55 JaMa: Seems 256GB could work with X399 according to some people here: https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/f7x49s/threadripper_1900x_gigabyte_x399_aorus_pro_wont/ At least with Asrock May 13 10:56:03 Though it's way overdone anyway May 13 10:56:19 CL for the 32GB modules isn't great by the looks of it May 13 10:56:44 So 8*16 is probably better v.s. 4*32 in terms of CL, not sure about real life though May 13 11:00:47 I didn't benchmark CL impact on build time (yet) May 13 11:01:53 but the same CL on 2933 will be better latency than on 1866 May 13 11:03:06 unless you're setting really low CL when it runs on slow freq May 13 11:26:53 JaMa: Well mine was running on 2666 now with 7 modules... I should be able to run it on 2933 I guess with some tweaking May 13 11:27:01 I have compleed section Setup the build environment section: upto $ make setup-webos-ports. Do I need to apply similar commits at this stage? Herrie May 13 11:27:15 As per your guide May 13 11:27:28 Ref. link: https://webos-ports.org/wiki/Build_for_Hammerhead#Setup_the_build_environment May 13 11:27:49 Yet to start Buiding section May 13 11:28:26 So question is, do i need to add changes right now or just before hammerhead looking command, ofcourse by changing it to land May 13 11:31:20 sorry for irritating and asking too basic questions , but i am noob. so please accept apologies. May 13 11:32:38 bt40: You can do the changes now May 13 11:32:48 Basically take everything from rosy and make the same for land May 13 11:32:57 Or from mido/tissot, that would work too May 13 11:35:21 I have found the folders as per guidance Herrie : meta smartphone and meta-webos-ports. Inside them i have found folders xiaomi. Which i believe to edit in that May 13 11:35:42 Yes correct May 13 11:35:47 Main layer maintainers: Herman van Hazendonk (Herrie) May 13 11:35:53 this is in readme file May 13 11:35:58 glad to read this May 13 11:36:05 Thank you herry May 13 11:36:09 The 2 commits I pointed out earlier were to point out how to add a device ;) May 13 11:36:17 Basically that's what needed to get it to work May 13 11:36:40 Most of our Xiaomi devices are Qualcom 625, this is the 430, but it's not so different in general May 13 11:36:55 But which files do ii need to modify in xiaomi folder? May 13 11:37:03 is there some specific name? May 13 11:37:19 layer.conf? May 13 11:37:52 As per https://github.com/shr-distribution/meta-smartphone/commit/41aba2559d7ee484e43367f1260a02a66290c107#diff-230422b665b241aed4c8aea6182a0b6b May 13 11:38:16 in meta-xiaomi/conf/machine add a file called land.conf May 13 11:38:38 ok May 13 11:38:57 u guys are genius. God bless you. May 13 11:38:57 Contents you can copy from rosy.conf and replace rosy with land May 13 11:40:28 Our config is pretty generic, adding a few files is usually enough to get things to work more or less May 13 11:48:45 Need to go now. Will join again. hank you guys. Glad to speak. May 13 11:48:52 Thank May 13 12:13:58 Herrie: with 8 sticks the IMC officially supports only 1866 dual rank modules IMHO May 13 12:14:25 Herrie: e.g. https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/ryzen_threadripper/2990wx#Memory_controller May 13 12:21:22 the same listed here https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2-2990wx-2950x,5725.html May 13 12:23:17 JaMa: Hmmz OK, I guess I have dual rank modules, pretty sure May 13 12:24:17 yes, very likely for 16G sticks from that time May 13 12:25:18 and single rank would be 2133 so if you're running them on 2933, then it's already quite strain on IMC and memory defects aren't so surprising May 13 12:25:47 I would try memtest with all 8 modules on 1866 just to make sure it's not IMC causing the issues May 13 12:26:57 19:27 <+Herrie> With different speeds, voltages, timings etc May 13 12:26:57 19:27 <+Herrie> Even on 2133 and 2400 :( May 13 12:27:08 ah you've already tried 2133 :/ May 13 12:27:31 JaMa: I did about 1 hr memtest (7/8 tests) per pair of modules and was able to find 1 faulty one May 13 12:27:47 Tested in pairs, then from the failing pair tested them individually May 13 12:27:50 22:15 <+JaMa> it would be nice to bump from DDR4-1866 (DR) / DDR4-2133 (SR) to DDR4-2666/DDR4-2933, but for me the difference between DDR4-2666 and DDR4-3200 was minimal May 13 12:28:25 Herrie: 7/8 @2933, right? May 13 12:28:30 So now have 7 working modules which are rock stable (hence the all test finishing without issues). May 13 12:28:34 They are @ 2666 now May 13 12:28:43 I should be able to get them to 2933 though May 13 12:29:01 as long as IMC survives that :) May 13 12:29:18 I have Hynix J-die it seems on these new modules, which isn't in the Ryzen DRAM tool May 13 12:29:36 Some peopel say it's similar to C-die, but others say C-die settings don't work May 13 12:29:37 what SPD profiles they have? May 13 12:30:28 I'm using 3200 SPD on my kit without any manual tweaks, they default to 2666 (which is the 2nd option I've benchmarked) May 13 12:30:39 16-18-18-36 is what they can do @ 2933 accoridng to Crucial May 13 12:30:43 Ehm Corsair May 13 12:31:40 JaMa: You know of any good tools for Linux that will show mem info? There's plenty for Windows but haven't found much for linux except for dmidecode :P May 13 12:33:00 I need to tweak the voltage on the IMC a bit in general for it to work. But that's normal. Way within safe limits. And put the DRAM voltage to 1.35 or 1.36 which is also fine ;) May 13 12:36:53 don't know about Linux tools for that May 13 12:37:49 I have also Hynix, but I'm quite happy with 3200, for higher freq I would need to bump FCLK as well and the CPU is already quite hot with AIO and it's fast enough already :) May 13 12:38:15 I have the JJR it seems May 13 12:38:26 You have 4*32 or 8*16? May 13 12:38:36 4*32 May 13 12:40:12 people with 8x16 had issues to even run them @3000 on TRX40 and even zenith II Extreme MB is supposed to have issues with 8 sticks, so I'm glad I went with just 3970 and need only 4 sticks May 13 12:41:07 if you check the test-oe repo, 3990x with 8x16 is actually slower than 3970x with 8x16 or 4x32 while twice expensive May 13 12:42:10 it would be better with 8x32 most likely, but at that point Epyc 7702P makes much more sense IMHO, unfortunately the H12 supermicro MBs are still "comming soon" May 13 12:43:17 e.g. https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/motherboard/H12SSL-C has better form factor than Gigabyte MZ32-AR0 I was planing to buy before May 13 12:43:58 Ooh that Zenith II Extreme is pricy May 13 12:48:32 well, much less pricy than the Alpha version of it (which I was planing to buy with 3990x) :) May 13 12:50:22 Curious what Corsair will get back with... I was able to narrow it down to a single module... Probably another RMA for the whole kit :S **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu May 14 02:59:57 2020