**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 21 02:59:57 2022 Apr 21 09:26:00 Morning!@ Apr 21 09:32:46 Tofe: I retested, seems I don't really get a black window in all cases, but there's a hidden card somehow that's in the center of the screen and First Use app is on the left Apr 21 09:34:31 Screenshot: https://abload.de/img/virtualbox_luneos-qemomki7.png Apr 21 09:35:17 When I press the "home" and "end" buttons I get a black card that I can swipe away Apr 21 09:39:14 This is my log: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/4q5VgN9Wmj/ Apr 21 09:44:12 Seems there's some permission issues for the QML apps, I see both phone and firstuse in logs Apr 21 09:44:38 Apr 21 08:28:44 qemux86-64 ls-hubd[232]: [] [pmlog] ls-hubd LSHUB_NO_NAME_PERMS {"APP_ID":"org.webosports.app.firstuse-2","ROLE_ID":"/usr/bin/qml-runner","EXE":"/usr/bin/qml-runner"} Executable: "/usr/bin/qml-runner" (cmdline: /usr/bin/qml-runner --appid org.webosports.app.firstuse {"appId":"org.webosports.app.firstuse","main":"file:///usr/palm/applications/org.webosports.app.firstuse/q Apr 21 09:44:38 ml/main.qml","params":{"displayAffinity":0,"mode":"first-use","launchedAtBoot":true,"boot":true,"launchedHidden":false}}) does not have permission to register name: "org.webosports.app.firstuse-2" Apr 21 16:47:20 Herrie: it's weird, I don't have that behavior Apr 21 16:47:57 but I modified a bit SAM to handle noWindow -- and that doesn't work very well yet, now all the windows are hidden :p Apr 21 17:27:03 also, the more I read luna-appmanager code and bootd code, the more I think we should move the BootManager c++ class over to bootd Apr 21 17:28:02 it has a lot of logic in there for our startup sequence, and we know we'll be dropping our appmanager at some point for SAM Apr 21 17:30:08 though I'm still not fully sure, for instance luna-appmanager manages the startup apps (from luna.conf file) and we want to keep that Apr 21 19:58:21 Tofe_: I thought bootd had a hardcoded list of apps to start as well? Apr 21 19:58:42 We could extend that? Or we need additional functionality still? Apr 21 20:11:25 Tofe_: Let me know when this SAM PR is ready to go Apr 21 20:26:54 HerrieTP: I changed the bootd,luna-appmanager,sam,wam set of code Apr 21 20:27:03 it works a bit better now, but far from perfect Apr 21 20:46:38 I guess you want the webruntime switch to stabilize a bit more before the switch to kirkstone, right? Apr 21 20:58:36 JaMa: yes, I'd prefer that :) Apr 21 20:58:45 it's already chaotic enough Apr 21 21:33:04 Tofe_: What are the main remaining issues now? Apr 21 21:59:52 HerrieT20: well I still can't start Mail and Calendar in a correct way, with the first card hidden Apr 21 22:00:22 and there's Maliit of course Apr 21 22:00:32 apart from that, it's not that bad Apr 21 22:30:43 I'll do some PRs tomorrow, but I've already pushed things in my branches **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Apr 22 02:59:56 2022