**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Nov 07 02:59:57 2009
Nov 07 03:00:20 <ElVox> well do you have photoshop?
Nov 07 03:01:11 <_droO> cs4
Nov 07 03:01:18 <_droO> but just png24?
Nov 07 03:01:22 <_droO> + transparency
Nov 07 03:01:22 <_droO> ?
Nov 07 03:01:24 <ElVox> Save for the Web, pick PNG 24 and make sure transparency is selected. Of course make sure you don't have a background layer of some sort
Nov 07 03:01:29 <ElVox> thats it
Nov 07 03:01:44 <_droO> didnt know if needed to do anything else was all D;
Nov 07 04:05:18 <kesne> Does anyone know the appid for the screen and lock app?
Nov 07 04:10:27 <rick_home> Jordan, it isn't an app
Nov 07 04:10:43 <kesne> Right, so what is it?
Nov 07 04:11:05 <rick_home> part of the binary portions of mojo
Nov 07 04:11:14 <kesne> srsly?
Nov 07 04:11:20 <kesne> So I can't edit anything in there?
Nov 07 04:11:21 <kesne> ugh
Nov 07 04:11:47 <rick_home> if you could people would have re-themed the lock screen ages ago
Nov 07 04:11:55 <kesne> Why does Palm make is near impossible to get webOS at 800x600 and keep it good looking?
Nov 07 04:12:02 <rick_home> and put something besides the freaking time on there, like weather or news or incoming sms
Nov 07 04:12:03 <Roy-Pre101> Hola.
Nov 07 04:12:20 <rick_home> Roy
Nov 07 04:13:29 <rick_home> ugh
Nov 07 04:13:35 <rick_home> pixi-ing my apps
Nov 07 04:13:38 <rick_home> ugh ugh ugh
Nov 07 04:13:55 <Roy-Pre101> rick_home: Me too.
Nov 07 04:14:23 <Roy-Pre101> I may have to shrink icons for pixi.  Does pixi have different dpi?
Nov 07 04:14:32 <rick_home> identical dpi
Nov 07 04:14:35 <rick_home> thank ghod
Nov 07 04:14:37 <Roy-Pre101> That's good.
Nov 07 04:14:46 <rick_home> but 194 dpi is DENSE as you know
Nov 07 04:17:58 <Roy-Pre101> Too true.
Nov 07 04:17:58 <reality9110> Work in em...then you don't have to worry about the pixi
Nov 07 04:18:36 <Roy-Pre101> I don't see how ems make my stuff fit in 80 fewer pixels vertically. ;)
Nov 07 04:19:18 <reality9110> In terms of icons?  Define height in em
Nov 07 04:19:26 <Roy-Pre101> Did any of you check out the canvas drawing benchmark thing?
Nov 07 04:19:50 <reality9110> I gave up on canvas
Nov 07 04:19:56 <Roy-Pre101> reality9110: Are you saying if I defined my icon height in em that suddenly they'd fit on the pixi screen?
Nov 07 04:20:07 <reality9110> They'd scale
Nov 07 04:47:57 <Roy-Pre101> Well, so long as there are no notifications on the pixi my screen fits without going fullscreen.
Nov 07 04:49:10 <Roy-Pre101> Is there an easy way to cause a notificaton on the emulator?
Nov 07 04:50:03 <atlanta> hey guys
Nov 07 04:50:36 <Roy-Pre101> atlanta: howdy
Nov 07 04:51:04 <atlanta> hey im trying to modify a palm-button
Nov 07 04:51:27 <Roy-Pre101> can anyone think of some nifty css stylings or transforms I could do with my tiles in Match 'Em?
Nov 07 04:53:21 <Roy-Pre101> atlanta: How's that workin' for ya?
Nov 07 04:53:34 <atlanta> like i tried changing the background in css
Nov 07 04:53:41 <atlanta> but the background isnt the actually button
Nov 07 04:53:51 <atlanta> i don't know what to change to get rid of it
Nov 07 04:53:56 <atlanta> probably border?
Nov 07 05:00:07 <sugardave> border image
Nov 07 05:00:21 <sugardave> -webkit-border-image most likely
Nov 07 05:00:36 <sugardave> and the png you want to slice up to make the button
Nov 07 05:02:12 <Roy-Pre101> lemketron: Howdy.
Nov 07 05:02:50 <lemketron> Hey.  Had to quit/restart to change the appearance in Colloquy.
Nov 07 05:03:06 <lemketron> and fortunately you just helped me verify that I can now see highlighted text much easier.
Nov 07 05:03:12 <Roy-Pre101> You could just use Adium for IRC, too.
Nov 07 05:03:33 <lemketron> I have it, but don't use it
Nov 07 05:03:52 <lemketron> pretty happy with Colloquy, actualy
Nov 07 05:04:04 <lemketron> s/ly/lly/
Nov 07 05:04:36 <Roy-Pre101> Yeah, it works pretty well, but I use Adium for AIM/MSN/GChat/Yahoo/etc. so it's nice to have it all together.
Nov 07 05:04:52 <lemketron> Ah.  I use iChat for AIM, and don't use any of the others.
Nov 07 05:07:55 <lemketron> anyway, heading out for the evening...  have a good weekend!
Nov 07 05:08:00 <Roy-Pre101> have fun
Nov 07 05:24:10 <sugardave> what would an acceptable ad refresh time be?  45 seconds?
Nov 07 05:27:15 <Roy-Pre101> 45-60 would work.  Any faster would be annoying I think.
Nov 07 05:27:25 <Roy-Pre101> Try it out.
Nov 07 05:27:44 <JenP> hi all!
Nov 07 05:27:49 <Roy-Pre101> Gah, if I want ads to appear in Match 'em I need to shrink Pixi screen even more.
Nov 07 05:27:59 <Roy-Pre101> How tall are the ads, sugardave?
Nov 07 05:28:31 <Roy-Pre101> hi JenP.  I'm going to sleep.
Nov 07 05:28:46 <JenP> ok....long day?
Nov 07 05:28:53 <sugardave> I'm not sure how tall they will be, I'm going to make them as small as possible
Nov 07 05:28:56 <Roy-Pre101> very long
Nov 07 05:28:59 <sugardave> 32px?
Nov 07 05:29:08 <JenP> I'm sorry to hear that Roy
Nov 07 05:29:10 <Roy-Pre101> 32px is an awfully small hit target.
Nov 07 05:29:17 <Roy-Pre101> But not too bad.
Nov 07 05:29:17 <sugardave> i mean high
Nov 07 05:29:20 <sugardave> height
Nov 07 05:29:30 <sugardave> probably 100% width
Nov 07 05:29:32 <Roy-Pre101> they gotta be able to click it.
Nov 07 05:29:34 <Roy-Pre101> :)
Nov 07 05:29:50 <Roy-Pre101> 32 more px means 112px missing from pixi screen!
Nov 07 05:29:58 <Roy-Pre101> I'll see what I can do.
Nov 07 05:30:00 <Roy-Pre101> night folks
Nov 07 05:30:04 <JenP> g'nite
Nov 07 05:30:10 <sugardave> night
Nov 07 05:30:52 <JenP> hey sugardave
Nov 07 05:31:01 <sugardave> hi JenP, how's it going?
Nov 07 05:31:19 <JenP> good! i'm ready to do some fun work....
Nov 07 05:31:29 <JenP> long long work days now
Nov 07 05:31:34 <sugardave> lame
Nov 07 05:31:57 <sugardave> I think I'm finally ready to win the lottery
Nov 07 05:32:03 <sugardave> stop going to work
Nov 07 05:32:08 <JenP> smiles...yeah.
Nov 07 05:32:11 <JenP> hehehhe
Nov 07 05:32:18 <JenP> you'd get bored
Nov 07 05:32:34 <sugardave> nah, I'd still have all kinds of hobbies to do
Nov 07 05:32:47 <sugardave> I still have 5 more continents to get geocaches in
Nov 07 05:33:08 <JenP> oh i LOVE geocaching!
Nov 07 05:33:27 <sugardave> cool!  I haven't been in a while, but the weather is right for it now
Nov 07 05:33:38 <JenP> where you at?
Nov 07 05:33:47 <sugardave> Austin, TX
Nov 07 05:33:57 <JenP> ahhh....san diego CA
Nov 07 05:34:07 <JenP> i generally don't worry about weather <grins>
Nov 07 05:34:12 <sugardave> it's always beautiful in San Diego
Nov 07 05:34:15 <sugardave> yep
Nov 07 05:34:16 <sugardave> :D
Nov 07 05:34:23 <JenP> ;-)
Nov 07 05:34:46 <sugardave> alright, time for some old-school video gaming
Nov 07 05:34:55 <JenP> lol enjoy
Nov 07 05:43:30 <reality9110> JenP: You get the new beta?
Nov 07 05:43:44 <JenP> yes...haven't had a chance to install yet
Nov 07 05:43:54 <JenP> plan on it tonight...so far how's it going?
Nov 07 05:44:32 <reality9110> It's basically ready to roll.  Just need to fix one thing on search when it returns null and fix a few issues with null returns on bitrate/reliability
Nov 07 05:45:37 <reality9110> I think you'll find the selection has increased dramatically.
Nov 07 07:18:48 <jaycanuck> Hi all
Nov 07 09:51:08 <morphis> heyho
Nov 07 10:40:45 <tarelerulz> What are the media player for Webos?
Nov 07 11:45:21 <tarelerulz> Does WebOS use gstream ?
Nov 07 13:57:58 <chain__> hello
Nov 07 14:00:05 <Hernlebuh> hi all!
Nov 07 14:00:45 <Hernlebuh> is it allowed to use code of the palm samples (e.g. the SupportApp)???
Nov 07 14:36:31 <chain__> anyone here?
Nov 07 14:43:47 <benluo> hi
Nov 07 14:56:43 <benluo> how to change css style with javascript?
Nov 07 15:59:35 <JenP>  hi all!
Nov 07 16:44:47 <fearphage> is there a solution to getting mojo to install on xp64? i've searched on the forums and haven't found an answer
Nov 07 17:11:15 <fearphage> not everyone at once
Nov 07 17:15:06 <_droO> anyone know a precentral forum admin?;o
Nov 07 17:17:52 <Templarian> _droO: why?
Nov 07 17:18:18 <Templarian> (and btw, you can simply PM them they are generally pretty fast at responding)
Nov 07 17:22:01 <fearphage> is there a solution to getting mojo to install on xp64? i've searched on the forums and haven't found an answer
Nov 07 17:23:31 <Templarian> fearphage: not sure, probably just install it in c:\palm\
Nov 07 17:23:38 <Roy-Pre101> fearphage: It should install just fine.
Nov 07 17:24:03 <fearphage> it should perhaps but it's not
Nov 07 17:24:04 <Roy-Pre101> Did you go to the webOSdev forum for windows install issues?
Nov 07 17:24:08 <fearphage> it installs and then rolls back
Nov 07 17:24:12 <fearphage> done it 3 times so far
Nov 07 17:24:23 <fearphage> yes, and i searched there as well
Nov 07 17:24:23 <Roy-Pre101> What version of the SDK are you installing?
Nov 07 17:25:10 <fearphage> 1.1 i believe
Nov 07 17:25:18 <fearphage> no, 1.2
Nov 07 17:25:49 <fearphage> Palm_Mojo_SDK-Win-1.2.0-33.exe
Nov 07 17:26:13 <Roy-Pre101> I know 1.1 had problems but 1.2 works with 64 bit.  It may be only Vista x64 and Win 7 x64 work, though.
Nov 07 17:26:35 <Roy-Pre101> do you have 64 bit java installed?
Nov 07 17:27:26 <fearphage> yes, i have both installed
Nov 07 17:27:38 <fearphage> tried iwth just x64 first
Nov 07 17:28:23 <Roy-Pre101> Can you run webOS Doctor?
Nov 07 17:28:55 <fearphage> i don't know what that is
Nov 07 17:29:15 <Roy-Pre101> It's the palm tool to reload the OS on the phone.  It should install the appropriate drivers.
Nov 07 17:29:25 <Roy-Pre101> If it can't run then you're probably out of luck.
Nov 07 17:30:44 <Templarian> Roy-Pre101: that wouldn't fix the install of the sdk
Nov 07 17:31:08 <Templarian> (64bit should work, but don't know anyone that has xp still so might of not been tested much)
Nov 07 17:31:10 <Roy-Pre101> But if it can't install the drivers, either, then he's probably out of luck.
Nov 07 17:33:32 <fearphage> server 2003 and xp64 are the same architecture
Nov 07 17:33:39 <fearphage> they usually take the same installs
Nov 07 17:41:44 <fearphage> http://screencast.com/t/EzitMm99W2v still no go
Nov 07 17:43:01 <sugardave> damn AdMob....no ads coming in this morning
Nov 07 17:43:14 <sugardave> for MY app...other apps work great
Nov 07 17:49:23 <datafirm_> can one save files on the device for caching purposes.. or does one need to use the depot or similar and store the binary data there?
Nov 07 17:52:16 <sugardave> datafirm_: you're going to want to use depot or sqlite for that, I think
Nov 07 17:52:52 <datafirm_> sugardave: ok
Nov 07 18:19:46 <webosschool-tm> so anyone here watching the webos presentaion??
Nov 07 18:20:03 <Roy-Pre101> whoops!  I forgot to set an alarm on my phone
Nov 07 18:20:25 <webosschool-tm> hey. we mentioned you Roy..hopefully you see some traffic from us.
Nov 07 18:20:33 <Roy-Pre101> :D
Nov 07 18:20:37 <Roy-Pre101> Thanks!
Nov 07 18:21:06 <webosschool-tm> I have a question for you...our building is not getting gps fix...we are going to show using location service .  I havent used anything to send coordinates to a device. can you do that?
Nov 07 18:21:35 <webosschool-tm> I know you can send a cvs file to the emulator, but want to demo using the device (we are going to use the camera etc.)
Nov 07 18:33:23 <fearphage> webosschool-tm: where's the presentation?
Nov 07 18:33:31 <fearphage> i'm thinking about giving up on this right about now
Nov 07 18:35:43 <webosschool-tm> we are at lunch. we are going to start in about 10 minutes.
Nov 07 18:38:51 <sugardave> webosschool-tm: I'm not sure if you can do it on the device, but I haven't tried
Nov 07 18:39:12 <sugardave> no southern-facing windows?
Nov 07 18:42:46 <fearphage> would the log from the failed installer help at all?
Nov 07 18:48:41 <atlanta> hey any one install the sdk on windows 7?
Nov 07 18:48:47 <atlanta> i just got mine in the mail
Nov 07 18:59:42 <kesne_> Hey webosschool-tm
Nov 07 18:59:49 <kesne_> I have windows 7
Nov 07 18:59:58 <kesne_> and the sdk is installed
Nov 07 19:00:42 <atlanta> kesne: 32bit or 64
Nov 07 19:00:43 <atlanta> ?
Nov 07 19:00:48 <kesne> 64 bit
Nov 07 19:01:01 <atlanta> how did you get it to install
Nov 07 19:01:09 <atlanta> i seen a thread but no solution
Nov 07 19:01:17 <atlanta> and im about to uninstall my xp and go to windows 7
Nov 07 19:20:49 <Nelson616> hello eveyone
Nov 07 19:21:03 <Nelson616> i have a ? if anyone could help me
Nov 07 19:27:08 <fearphage> is there a way to figure out why the installer is rolling back?
Nov 07 19:30:14 <fearphage> is there a public place to file bugs?
Nov 07 19:30:37 <reality9110> developer.palm.com
Nov 07 19:34:27 <sugardave> hi reality9110: app looks good, haven't found anything else to complain about
Nov 07 19:35:28 <sugardave> Nelson616: usually better to just ask your question and then wait for someone to respond
Nov 07 19:39:28 <JenP> hi all
Nov 07 19:39:53 <fearphage> have any of you successfully installed the sdk in xp64?
Nov 07 19:40:12 <JenP> vista 64 & win7 64
Nov 07 19:42:04 <fearphage> "Note: 64-bit platforms are not yet officially supported; however, there is information about installing on 64-bit Vista and XP in the Forum."
Nov 07 19:42:16 <fearphage> is there something official about not supporting xp?
Nov 07 19:42:27 <geist> probably means 64bit xp
Nov 07 19:44:01 <fearphage> which is what i said i'm using
Nov 07 19:44:08 <geist> oh wow
Nov 07 19:44:14 <geist> didn't know anyone actually uses 64bit xp
Nov 07 19:44:24 <geist> that came and went pretty quick
Nov 07 19:45:45 <reality9110> sugardave: there are problems with some things
Nov 07 19:45:46 <fearphage> well vista was/is shit and win7 is still really new. companies will not be upgrading beyond xp for a while now
Nov 07 19:46:40 <reality9110> Nothing wrong with vista
Nov 07 19:47:58 <fearphage> ok
Nov 07 19:48:23 <fearphage> regardless of our opinions. this sucks
Nov 07 19:48:51 <reality9110> What sucks?
Nov 07 19:49:14 <JenP> i didn't have any probs with Vista
Nov 07 19:50:30 <reality9110> JenP: You try the app?
Nov 07 19:50:52 <JenP> no not yet still doing home work
Nov 07 19:51:07 <reality9110> Bah...I'm going to have to find better beta testers  ;-)
Nov 07 19:51:14 <JenP> sooo muchhhhh home work.....:-|
Nov 07 19:51:18 <JenP> i'm sorry
Nov 07 19:51:22 <fearphage> the inability to install the sdk in xp64
Nov 07 19:51:42 <reality9110> I never give my students homework
Nov 07 19:51:47 <JenP> fearphage did you make sure to install java for 64
Nov 07 19:52:00 <JenP> reality9110 wish you were my teacher
Nov 07 19:52:04 <geist> no, it's just xp64. it's poorly supported
Nov 07 19:52:09 <reality9110> "Professor"
Nov 07 19:52:20 <JenP> professor ;-)
Nov 07 19:52:27 <reality9110> And believe me, no, you don't.
Nov 07 19:52:30 <geist> xp is fine. it's just that xp64 is such a tiny install base. i dont think we even have a copy around palm
Nov 07 19:52:31 <fearphage> JenP: 32 and 64
Nov 07 19:52:35 <geist> can you even get it anymore?
Nov 07 19:52:40 <kesne> Perfect Bounce has 1.5 stars, heh
Nov 07 19:52:46 <kesne> Oh, morning all
Nov 07 19:52:46 <geist> i was under the impression that msft discontinued it
Nov 07 19:52:49 <fearphage> perhaps i've found a solution. http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?p=8701#p8701
Nov 07 19:53:08 <fearphage> i have to edit the installer and manually install some other parts
Nov 07 19:53:23 <fearphage> this is a bit sad
Nov 07 19:53:54 <geist> i suspect that someone just decided that xp64 wasn't worth their tiem
Nov 07 19:54:16 <reality9110> I question whether it's worth anybody's time.
Nov 07 19:54:26 <geist> i'll bring it up monday with the responsible parties. i'm a little annoyed that you're annoyed with that
Nov 07 19:55:29 <fearphage> so there is an os that is supported that the installer doesn't work on and obviously wasn't tested on. it seems like you should be annoyed with the qa team
Nov 07 19:55:43 <geist> no, i doubt xp64 is on the test grid
Nov 07 19:55:49 <geist> like i said, i'm not even sure you can *buy* it
Nov 07 19:55:59 <geist> i thought it was a discontinued product
Nov 07 19:56:14 <JenP> anyone able to get the color picker working in Komodo? so that it inserts the value
Nov 07 19:56:51 <fearphage> geist: microsoft reinstated xp multiple times and extended its life because of the way people rebelled against vista
Nov 07 19:56:56 <geist> i know i personally tried to buy a copy a year ago or so and everyone told me that msft discontinued it
Nov 07 19:57:03 <fearphage> you can buy it just fine and even get it installed from oems
Nov 07 19:57:04 <geist> yes. xp32... xp64 is a different story
Nov 07 19:57:13 <geist> i can't find it anywhere
Nov 07 19:57:40 <geist> i may have contributed to your problem a bit, i'm afraid. i had told everyone at palm that it was a dead product, not worth looking at
Nov 07 19:57:46 <fearphage> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Microsoft-OEM-Windows-Professional-Service/dp/B000R46PN0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1257623773&sr=8-1
Nov 07 19:58:40 <fearphage> well that would be an incorrect statement
Nov 07 19:58:47 <geist> guess so, though those are old OEM versions
Nov 07 19:59:08 <fearphage> you should check microsoft's support lifecycle next time
Nov 07 19:59:10 <geist> well, i'll ask
Nov 07 19:59:23 <geist> heh. i'm a mac guy anyway, so i dont really know it that well
Nov 07 19:59:48 <reality9110> http://www.amazon.co.uk/MS-DOS-complete-package-server-English/dp/B0002AF6KC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1257623973&sr=1-1
Nov 07 20:00:05 <reality9110> Where is the support?!
Nov 07 20:00:06 <fearphage> geist: to be honest, perhaps you aren't the best ones to make business decisions about windows then
Nov 07 20:00:06 <geist> aww crap. now i gotta go port novacom to dos
Nov 07 20:00:16 <geist> fearphage: yep
Nov 07 20:00:24 <geist> fearphage: sometimes people ask you shit and you gotta answer with shit
Nov 07 20:00:35 <geist> i'm sure there was some official meeting about it i wasn't present in
Nov 07 20:00:40 <fearphage> that's not how i work
Nov 07 20:00:45 <fearphage> different strokes
Nov 07 20:00:45 <geist> win2k isn't on the support list either
Nov 07 20:00:54 <fearphage> if you ask me something i don't know, i don't make up shit
Nov 07 20:00:56 <geist> since the usb stuff in it is just too long
Nov 07 20:00:57 <fearphage> i say i don't know
Nov 07 20:01:03 <geist> fearphage: busted!
Nov 07 20:01:03 <fearphage> it fixes problems like this
Nov 07 20:01:08 <geist> yes. i'm a total shitbag
Nov 07 20:01:17 <bpadalino> old news
Nov 07 20:01:19 <geist> you got me
Nov 07 20:01:41 <geist> i'll think about you every time i try to come clean and tell you whats actually going on
Nov 07 20:02:54 <geist> anyway, i dont actually deal with the packaging and testing of novacom and all that
Nov 07 20:03:07 <geist> i originally wrote it, but that has since been transferred to another team
Nov 07 20:03:21 <geist> and i've been somewhat frusterated by that, but i can't do everything
Nov 07 20:03:40 <geist> so i dont really know what the decision making process is there
Nov 07 20:05:22 <bpadalino> hows life at palm with the holidays coming up ?
Nov 07 20:05:31 <geist> still busy :)
Nov 07 20:05:40 <geist> we got lots of stuff to do
Nov 07 20:05:42 <bpadalino> busy is a good thing to be at work ..
Nov 07 20:05:50 <bpadalino> some good stuff coming down the pipe for us consumers ?
Nov 07 20:06:12 <geist> nah, we're building a big pyramid for Rubenstein
Nov 07 20:06:53 <bpadalino> i look forward to the traps before i get to the sarcophagus
Nov 07 20:07:03 <geist> oh yes, they'll be quite difficuly
Nov 07 20:07:22 <geist> i'm just trying to make sure i'm not the last one, trapped inside
Nov 07 20:08:12 <geist> back in a few. gotta get some food
Nov 07 20:08:16 <bpadalino> setting up chrisa to be your scapegoat ?
Nov 07 20:08:58 <geist> ssssh
Nov 07 20:09:41 <geist> sadly i'm probably going to find myself working some of the weekend
Nov 07 20:09:43 <geist> <sigh>
Nov 07 20:09:52 <bpadalino> :(
Nov 07 20:09:56 <bpadalino> enjoy food
Nov 07 20:28:54 <chain__> hey everyone, I just came back, maybe it's a bit late to say that but I use Windows XP x64 too(I mean I'm using it when I use windows - which is not very often - I use linux most of the time)
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Nov 07 21:27:08 <atlanta> oh man im loving windows 7
Nov 07 21:35:56 <chain__> I've tried, and it's just not right for me. It's good that everyone has a choice of operating system they use on their PC
Nov 07 23:44:28 <tarelerulz> Does anyone know  if webos uses gstream in anyway ?
Nov 07 23:46:11 <rwhitby> tarelerulz: yes it does.  see opensource.palm.com
Nov 07 23:47:21 <tarelerulz> rwhitby ,  it hard to find any details on it .
Nov 07 23:47:30 <tarelerulz> thanks for the link
Nov 08 00:09:15 * Stik beats Pre w/hammer
Nov 08 00:13:24 * Templarian can think of a few funner ways to void a warrenty.
Nov 08 00:13:29 <tarelerulz> Been doing some research on both android and webos and webos is looking better in many ways.  Android looks like it will be good in the future .  Media player department is lacking
Nov 08 00:15:37 <rboatrightxx> Hi all
Nov 08 00:16:40 <rick-pre> Hi?
Nov 08 00:16:46 <Templarian> What?
Nov 08 00:17:13 <rick-pre> Wirc only showing my messahes, not anyone else.
Nov 08 00:17:24 <rick-pre> Must need to update
Nov 08 00:17:32 <rick-pre> :(
Nov 08 00:19:45 <rwhitby> tarelerulz: talk to zsoc in #webos-internals about gstreamer
Nov 08 00:21:06 <JenP> rick-pre!
Nov 08 00:21:35 <tarelerulz> rwhitby , how is media on the webos ?  Can you play movies easy and any kind of organizing going on
Nov 08 00:21:57 <remonl> It is not obvious to me if it is possible to set the state of a widget programatically. For example, suppose I have a checkbox. What code would I use to change its state?
Nov 08 01:27:22 <Doug_> .waves hello
Nov 08 01:28:32 <Templarian> Palm's lead developer (Matt), just contacted me about Komodo... although I'm a tad uneasy do to the features we will see in Ares.
Nov 08 01:28:42 <Templarian> (lead tool developer*)
Nov 08 01:29:53 <_droO> anyone wanna beta test my first app?;o
Nov 08 01:40:21 <freakout> Templarian, oh?
Nov 08 01:40:38 <freakout> What was their interest?
Nov 08 01:41:00 <Templarian> He was pretty vague... so not sure.
Nov 08 01:42:43 <freakout> lol
Nov 08 01:42:54 <freakout> So what, he just rang and said "So, you made Komodo, huh?"
Nov 08 01:43:04 <freakout> and then hung up?
Nov 08 01:43:23 <Templarian> No he contacted me through the precentral forums saying he wanted to talk so I just gave him all my contacts.
Nov 08 01:43:37 <freakout> ahhhhhhhh
Nov 08 01:44:08 <Doug_> What's Ares?
Nov 08 01:44:42 <_droO> isnt that some like drag-n-drop gui ide thing?
Nov 08 01:45:18 <Templarian> Yea. It wouldn't be hard to make for Komodo, it's just a lot of work to support all UI elements smoothly.
Nov 08 01:45:19 <freakout> Doug_ : what _droO said.
Nov 08 01:46:35 <Doug_> Ah, that's the info I needed to get sensible results out of google.
Nov 08 01:48:44 <Doug_> [waving goodbye] thanks, it's time for dessert.
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