**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Nov 21 02:59:57 2009 Nov 21 03:00:03 so I will be at and away from the window Nov 21 03:03:35 give me your email, or pm me an sms number so that I can ping you . Nov 21 03:09:12 how goes, people? Nov 21 03:10:33 Roy-Pre101: whats up? how u been? Nov 21 03:10:43 Not bad. Nov 21 03:10:54 Match 'Em and Match 'em - Xmas Edition pushed today. Nov 21 03:11:00 Please retweet, people! Nov 21 03:11:10 Although, I didn't -want- xmas out yet. Nov 21 03:11:20 Ill ask them to pull it until next friday. Nov 21 03:11:22 I'll Nov 21 03:13:36 What are you up to, Justin? Nov 21 03:15:39 working on material & a few other things - all else good Nov 21 03:17:25 Roy -- I can't get them to un-reject snowglobe so that it can be reviewed. Nov 21 03:17:27 THE webos school?? Nov 21 03:17:37 i just watched one of the videos today Nov 21 03:17:39 good stuff Nov 21 03:19:00 grndslm: yup www.webosschool.com thanks man Nov 21 03:19:27 rboatright: got any tips for that java stuff? Nov 21 03:19:29 yea, it was just the 1.3.1 SDK update... but it was definitely a setup right, so i'll check the other 3 out soon enough Nov 21 03:19:38 *a good setup Nov 21 03:19:44 *setup right Nov 21 03:19:46 something Nov 21 03:25:28 Hey guys. I (lamely) forgot to remove my "show download count" patch before I got the latest update. Now, is there any way to update to the latest "show download count" with preware or the like? I'm stuck since I can't uninstall it. Nov 21 03:27:43 rbredow: run EPR, but it's also going to delete your other patches Nov 21 03:28:18 EPR...I should know what that means by now. Nov 21 03:28:42 I don't have any other patches installed...but I'd hate to loose any other data or apps. Nov 21 03:30:46 EPR just removes patches Nov 21 03:30:57 and then it uninstalls itself Nov 21 03:31:15 but that's #webos-internals talk Nov 21 03:33:12 I'll ask over there for some details. Thanks. Nov 21 03:43:18 I'm excited. Palm released my Attitude Indicator tonight to the App Catalog and the first 5 reviews all gave it 5 stars. Feels good. Nov 21 03:52:28 rbredow: congratulations! Nov 21 03:52:33 thx Nov 21 04:27:16 rboatright: Adora fixed me up when that happened ot me Nov 21 04:27:17 to me Nov 21 04:30:04 * Templarian is trying to code as quick as possible to get the free app submission before the deadline... so much to code. Nov 21 04:45:10 submit it now...then work the fixes for an update after their initial review Nov 21 04:46:00 New Palm Pre, Pixi Post: Need help with your Palm Pre or Pixi? Try Twitter! http://bit.ly/5b7HTQ By @vara411 Nov 21 04:48:08 ooookay, how are followmetools and copy_free getting my blog posts before I post 'em? ;P Nov 21 04:48:15 Well, before I tweet them Nov 21 04:48:19 Guess they subscribed. Nov 21 04:48:46 heh Nov 21 04:49:05 Not complainin' Nov 21 04:56:54 What's the free submission deadline again? Nov 21 04:58:52 Probably December sometime when they come out beta. Nov 21 04:59:01 got it. it is busy times! Nov 21 05:11:22 Hey guys, i have a question, im trying to get the palm emulator and stuff working, and i installed java just fine (windows 7) but when i go to command prompt and type java -version it says its not an internal or external command so the emulator isnt working :/ Nov 21 05:13:07 Hello? Nov 21 05:13:25 bittiez : are you 64 bit? Nov 21 05:13:33 Yes Nov 21 05:13:41 I had a similar problem Nov 21 05:13:48 just try reinstalling java Nov 21 05:13:56 make sure you get a 64 bit install Nov 21 05:14:05 hmm okay ill give that a go Nov 21 05:14:07 and try rebotting your computer a few times Nov 21 05:14:14 well one time Nov 21 05:14:27 and see if it works after rebot Nov 21 05:14:48 hope that helps! I gotta run Nov 21 05:14:52 Does anyone know if Sprint Navigator on the Pre has had the nav-voice truncation problem fixed yet? Nov 21 05:17:25 hi all!!! Nov 21 05:18:47 I'm going to kick lists in the butt Nov 21 05:20:00 hmmm, okay still not working(java is installed properly and java apps on the web work just fine, but i cant use cmd java -version) Nov 21 05:22:19 bittiez: 64 bit Vista or XP? Nov 21 05:22:25 windows 7 Nov 21 05:22:34 64 Nov 21 05:23:24 If you can't do a java -version then java isn't installed correctly Nov 21 05:23:54 Well i went to javas site and they have a test online that tells me it is working :/ Nov 21 05:24:28 That's an applet. Nov 21 05:24:30 A plugin Nov 21 05:25:44 http://java.com/en/ When you go here, what does it say when you click the Do I have Java button? Nov 21 05:26:23 You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 17). Nov 21 05:26:53 Ok. Now click the "Test your java virtual machine" Nov 21 05:27:09 it says My java is working Nov 21 05:27:47 Ok. Then what happens when you try to install the virtualbox and the sdk? Nov 21 05:28:16 well they install but when i run the emulator it says in the cmd prompt that java is not a recognized internal or external command Nov 21 05:29:06 Ok. You need to set the PATH then Nov 21 05:29:23 Okay, how do i do that? Nov 21 05:30:56 One sec. Let me get the exact command Nov 21 05:31:32 bittiez: http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=530314 Just follow that Nov 21 05:32:00 Okay Nov 21 05:32:24 Translated of course into 7...but they should be similar enough Nov 21 05:32:39 Just need to add the path to java to the environment variables. Nov 21 05:38:37 thank you very much :) Nov 21 05:45:04 Doc thanks for the scroller tutorial! Nov 21 05:47:31 hey i have a dumb question, when the emulator is running how do you get back to the home screen haha Nov 21 05:47:58 hit #1 Nov 21 05:48:06 use mouse to flip card off screen Nov 21 05:49:43 mmmmmmmmmmmm its not working for me haha Nov 21 05:49:47 i must be retarded Nov 21 05:50:01 escape key to go back Nov 21 05:50:30 ah okay that works :P Nov 21 05:51:02 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1744 Nov 21 05:52:15 alright thank you :P Nov 21 05:52:31 reality9110 you still up? Nov 21 06:12:31 would the follwing be considered an array or hash: [object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object] Nov 21 06:15:55 i would call it yo momma Nov 21 06:18:40 momma Nov 21 06:19:49 that looks like an array of Objects Nov 21 06:20:22 sugardave: how can I get the values of the objects? Nov 21 06:20:36 Object.toJSON(object); Nov 21 06:20:40 thats what i was thinking ;o Nov 21 06:21:09 that will print out a JSON string representation of the object Nov 21 06:21:33 you could also write a function that stepped through each property of the object and printed the property name and value Nov 21 06:23:21 I have the following: "var r = transport.responseJSON; this.resultsModel.items = $A(r.response.results.basresult); this.controller.modelChanged(this.resultsModel);" Nov 21 06:25:01 and you want to look at what? Nov 21 06:27:22 the above code produces proper results in "search-results.html" but I want to retrieve the properties of the object into the clipboard. Nov 21 06:28:41 instead of seeing [object Oject]... trying to get "text 1 text2"... Nov 21 06:31:26 palm won't respond with anything other than a canned response, to my request that they provide current source code packages. they continue to intentially violate the terms of the gpl, by releasing sources of the last version of webos, each time a new version comes out. i'm not knitpicking; I want to develop software for webos that can't be useful without current source code. Nov 21 06:33:25 Roy-Pre101: you forgot @webosinternals in the twitter article ;) Nov 21 06:33:27 ive been waiting for a response for awhile :( Nov 21 06:33:34 beyond initial auto-response ;/ Nov 21 06:38:41 sugardave: got it working perfectly! Nov 21 06:38:51 LoneStar34: awesome, what is $A? Nov 21 06:39:17 (i was wondering that also..) Nov 21 06:39:42 is that a Prototype thing or a Mojo thing? Nov 21 06:40:11 prototype: alias Nov 21 06:40:13 sugardave: not sure what $A is tried to figure it out, it is from the the SDK Nov 21 06:40:46 $A(iterable) => Array Nov 21 06:41:05 sugardave: networkData/ajaxGet sample Nov 21 06:41:14 exit Nov 21 06:41:44 i think $A is a prototype thing Nov 21 06:41:48 it is Nov 21 06:41:48 array Nov 21 06:42:21 as of 1.3 can only text be sent copied? Nov 21 06:42:34 sorry copy and pasted Nov 21 06:47:31 sugardave: noticed that copy and paste is working fine, but all text is json, how would I get rid of the json tags before copying: "var cb = this.resultsModel.items; this.controller.stageController.setClipboard(Object.toJSON(cb),true);" Nov 21 07:12:49 anyone know an easy way to strip commas using javascript? Nov 21 07:16:29 replace function Nov 21 07:16:35 replace , w/ "" Nov 21 07:22:56 good morning Nov 21 07:23:06 or whatever you have :-) Nov 21 07:23:37 almost morning, sorta. creeping up on midnight here Nov 21 07:24:06 i have received reports of my app being broken by 1.3.1 (http://forums.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/204048-sharethecosts-3.html#post2049768) Nov 21 07:24:21 however, i'm unable to reproduce the bug on the emu Nov 21 07:24:46 could somebody with an actual webos-device verify that for me? Nov 21 07:25:06 http://www.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/sharethecosts Nov 21 07:25:16 ill try Nov 21 07:25:25 what bug Nov 21 07:25:30 (im banned from precentral forums) Nov 21 07:25:33 haha Nov 21 07:25:35 so if u could pm me details or something Nov 21 07:25:35 D: Nov 21 07:26:11 what, you can't read it at all? Nov 21 07:26:20 if i wanna use proxies Nov 21 07:26:24 and im kinda lazy Nov 21 07:26:59 my pre is upstairs Nov 21 07:27:05 i'm also kinda lazy Nov 21 07:27:10 :P Nov 21 07:27:17 but what's the bug? Nov 21 07:27:48 [02:28] appearantly, it's impossible to create a new "project" Nov 21 07:28:12 well, the report i received: " When you select contacts they appear for a second and then disappear." Nov 21 07:28:20 hrm Nov 21 07:28:30 "t will not save the contacts I am trying to save for this trip." Nov 21 07:29:15 rnatau Nov 21 07:29:21 do me a fav, what catagory is this under Nov 21 07:29:22 to save me time Nov 21 07:29:32 finance? Nov 21 07:29:33 the app? finance Nov 21 07:29:44 kk Nov 21 07:29:47 i posted a direct link :-) Nov 21 07:29:58 im in preware on device Nov 21 07:30:01 ah Nov 21 07:30:07 true :-) Nov 21 07:30:36 yes Nov 21 07:30:41 i think that bug is correct Nov 21 07:30:51 hrm Nov 21 07:30:54 it displays for .2 seconds & dissapears Nov 21 07:31:02 strange! Nov 21 07:31:10 because it works in the emu... Nov 21 07:31:16 developer FAAILL Nov 21 07:31:17 :P Nov 21 07:31:24 :-) Nov 21 07:31:34 prob a very small issue ;o Nov 21 07:31:36 when adding Nov 21 07:31:45 i haven't received any bug reports from my app on the app catalog Nov 21 07:31:50 if u wanna pastebin that section ill look at it Nov 21 07:31:51 but, i also think that nobody bought it Nov 21 07:31:59 im too lazy to try to look thru ur code tho ;/ Nov 21 07:32:00 soooooo good and bad at the same time Nov 21 07:32:06 like on my own & copy ipk to comp Nov 21 07:32:15 haha Nov 21 07:32:18 what app pandora? Nov 21 07:32:19 ill buy it Nov 21 07:32:22 iBored Nov 21 07:32:27 OMG Nov 21 07:32:30 its freakin useful i swear Nov 21 07:32:30 i was gonna buy that Nov 21 07:32:31 ;o Nov 21 07:32:33 ok Nov 21 07:32:34 please do! Nov 21 07:32:35 its decided Nov 21 07:32:39 im buying it tomorrow Nov 21 07:32:40 ! Nov 21 07:32:43 and will rate for u Nov 21 07:32:44 lol Nov 21 07:32:45 then i can say someone bought the damn thing Nov 21 07:32:48 well, i'll try and find the issue myself for a moment ;-) Nov 21 07:32:51 haha :) Nov 21 07:32:57 lol thanks!! Nov 21 07:33:03 it does indeed add the contact though rnatau Nov 21 07:33:06 man i was gettin bummed out about that Nov 21 07:33:07 haha Nov 21 07:33:08 just only for a second Nov 21 07:33:21 nah dude, that was the first app i actually wanted to buy Nov 21 07:33:22 ;o Nov 21 07:33:27 woo!! Nov 21 07:33:28 thanks for your help, i'll most certainly have to have it checked again afterwards :-) Nov 21 07:33:32 i use it all the time Nov 21 07:34:35 well, the description of iBored sounds not so bad :-) Nov 21 07:34:44 :) Nov 21 07:34:49 the name is quite misleading, actually Nov 21 07:34:56 oh? Nov 21 07:35:15 i want to make a diggspy app Nov 21 07:35:19 maybe they will sponsor it :D Nov 21 07:35:21 sounds like a combination of a fart- and a cheap-game-app :-P Nov 21 07:35:28 lol Nov 21 07:35:37 what's ibored? Nov 21 07:35:46 ITS THE LATEST AND GREATEST IN WEBOS TECHNOLOGY Nov 21 07:35:47 I'm not bored enough to check for myself Nov 21 07:35:48 AKA THE FUTURE Nov 21 07:35:54 haha Nov 21 07:35:58 that should be ur description Nov 21 07:36:01 ull sell 10x Nov 21 07:36:02 * MetaView wanna buy the future, Nov 21 07:36:08 wait, that't already my app ;-) Nov 21 07:36:13 (when it works) Nov 21 07:36:13 droO: you're hired as my PR agent kthx Nov 21 07:36:20 lolol :) Nov 21 07:36:20 * MetaView writes the future Nov 21 07:36:36 well, time for some digging Nov 21 07:36:37 MetaView: it's an app to launch when you're bored and looking for stuff to do Nov 21 07:36:55 as every app? Nov 21 07:37:03 MetaView: search for music, it will tell you what kinds of concerts are goin on around you Nov 21 07:37:11 ok, cool Nov 21 07:37:20 but only in the states? Nov 21 07:37:22 does it have a stripclub locator? Nov 21 07:37:28 MetaView: search art, it'll tell you art shows, etc. map it, add to calendar with event details in the calendar notes Nov 21 07:37:34 uses gps,etc etc Nov 21 07:37:42 MetaView: works out of the states too Nov 21 07:38:00 but how do you look for it? ask google? Nov 21 07:38:08 MetaView: but, it's un-free so palm is only distributing it in the states, iirc Nov 21 07:38:31 MetaView: uses a yahoo upcoming database Nov 21 07:38:35 are they going to allow international app sales? Nov 21 07:38:36 is it a kind o google-interface? Nov 21 07:38:41 no Nov 21 07:38:45 drats Nov 21 07:38:46 its not map-centric Nov 21 07:38:48 that would be nice ;[ Nov 21 07:38:49 its event centric Nov 21 07:38:52 ok, international sales are still a bit away Nov 21 07:38:57 as far as I know Nov 21 07:39:02 droO: i think they will eventually Nov 21 07:39:02 metaview Nov 21 07:39:08 u could always just give him your credit card Nov 21 07:39:12 and im sure he'll send u the ipk Nov 21 07:39:20 ;x Nov 21 07:39:20 lol Nov 21 07:39:25 I'm not giveng you my cc... Nov 21 07:39:32 why not? Nov 21 07:39:35 lol Nov 21 07:39:38 * MetaView hides its wallet beghind the carpet Nov 21 07:39:45 its 2009, havent u heard of all the fraud prevention? Nov 21 07:39:52 nobody steals ccs anymore Nov 21 07:39:55 * MetaView doesn't trust foreigners :D Nov 21 07:39:56 its been safe since 2007 Nov 21 07:39:59 ya riiiiiiiiiiight Nov 21 07:40:02 haha Nov 21 07:40:04 where have u been man Nov 21 07:40:06 MetaView: where're you from? Nov 21 07:40:10 dont u read the news metaview/ Nov 21 07:40:13 Germany Nov 21 07:40:14 now give me ur credit card Nov 21 07:40:16 GIMME GIMME Nov 21 07:40:17 ;o Nov 21 07:40:19 jk <3 Nov 21 07:40:26 ah, then guten morgen in that case Nov 21 07:40:28 * MetaView picks up the card Nov 21 07:40:36 pandora---: Danke schön Nov 21 07:40:44 metaview Nov 21 07:40:48 0456 7845 2344 5677 Nov 21 07:40:52 would u happen to be good with old high german? Nov 21 07:40:54 creepin to midnight here in california Nov 21 07:40:57 to possibly translate a phrase? Nov 21 07:40:58 ;o Nov 21 07:41:03 American Express Gold Nov 21 07:41:09 droO: yes Nov 21 07:41:15 i need the expiration & 4 digit code in the lower right Nov 21 07:41:33 my german sucks. 2 years in highschool, so my grammar is limited Nov 21 07:41:33 :) Nov 21 07:42:32 dro0: got the replace working "var rc = cd.replace(/,/g, "");" Nov 21 07:42:35 thanks Nov 21 07:42:39 :) Nov 21 07:42:39 np Nov 21 07:43:03 hm, methinks i already found the issue :-/ Nov 21 07:43:09 developer FAIIIL indeed Nov 21 07:43:26 care to share? Nov 21 07:43:27 ;o Nov 21 07:44:32 hm, though, not sooo sure about it Nov 21 07:44:37 anyway, my guess: Nov 21 07:45:01 in the emulator how do I zoom out of a window without using "ESC" key Nov 21 07:45:15 in the activate function, i call a function which adds the person to my list Nov 21 07:45:52 however, in the aboutToActivate, i load the person already in the project from the database Nov 21 07:45:56 which is empty at that point Nov 21 07:46:13 maybe there's some kind of timing bug Nov 21 07:46:36 although the aboutToActivate-callback should only be called after completion of the fetching Nov 21 07:46:47 anyway, it's a stupid way to do it ;-) Nov 21 07:47:34 LoneStar34: end Nov 21 07:49:40 pandora -- thanks easy enough Nov 21 07:51:23 http://zorg.ch/files/8/stc_0.4.0_all.ipk Nov 21 07:51:34 care to test it? :-) Nov 21 07:55:31 Does palm-log work as advertised for you guys? I can't get it to show anything but Mojo.Log.Error(). Komodo helped setup my framework_config file to look like this: http://webos.pastebin.com/m20cf8c86 Nov 21 07:55:41 stc? Nov 21 07:55:48 still, no response for a Mojo.Log.Info() line. Nov 21 07:56:09 info is 25, methinks Nov 21 07:56:20 so loglevel needs to be higher Nov 21 07:56:27 make it 99 to be sure ;-) Nov 21 07:56:29 Ok...I'll try setting it to 99 real quick. Nov 21 07:56:58 how do I get rid of JSON tags after using the following "var cd = Object.toJSON(cb);" Nov 21 07:57:33 droO: ? Nov 21 07:57:38 Didn't seem to change it. I also do not see any javascript errors (even though I know I've got them). I'm monitoring with the command palm-log -f com.185vfx.programname Nov 21 07:58:01 LoneStar34: that's just the string rep, so the object is like this Nov 21 07:58:06 if you have this string Nov 21 07:58:17 {'property': 'value'} Nov 21 07:58:26 the value can be gotten to like this: Nov 21 07:58:31 object.property Nov 21 07:59:24 droO, can you run it from a link? or should I upload to precentral? Nov 21 08:00:28 sugardave: so I use object.property instead of object.toJSON? Nov 21 08:00:52 yeah, earlier you wanted to see what was in there, so that was how to see the string representation of the object Nov 21 08:01:03 http://json.org Nov 21 08:01:09 shows how JSON objects are structured Nov 21 08:01:37 so then, you see what properties there are, and can access them thusly: object.property = value Nov 21 08:02:34 you can also access them like arrays: object['property'] Nov 21 08:02:55 FYI...this appears to be my answer: http://forums.precentral.net/web-os-development/212441-does-palm-log-work-actual-device.html Nov 21 08:03:08 The device only logs errors. The emulator should show more. Nov 21 08:03:13 sugardave: ok thanks, I will check it out. working on two apps at the same time Nov 21 08:03:39 going back and forth Nov 21 08:07:32 droO, could you please test the updated version? that would be great :-) Nov 21 08:10:20 is it updated in feed? Nov 21 08:10:40 no Nov 21 08:10:52 wait, i'll update it there Nov 21 08:11:01 it's broken anyway ;-) Nov 21 08:11:01 if u give me a link Nov 21 08:11:05 i can just wget it Nov 21 08:11:07 and update myself Nov 21 08:11:26 pm me link to ipk Nov 21 08:11:26 http://zorg.ch/files/8/stc_0.4.0_all.ipk Nov 21 08:11:30 ok Nov 21 09:50:11 Anyone here who's submitted apps (or any palm people here?) Nov 21 09:50:40 I have a question about stripping white space and comments... Nov 21 13:12:15 hi Nov 21 13:14:33 is someone here? and online? and awake? Nov 21 13:16:53 i'm sure someone is awake.. somewhere. Nov 21 13:21:04 oh, it works Nov 21 13:21:30 thx, good morning, I guess? Nov 21 13:23:18 morn'n here in new york Nov 21 13:58:45 good morn'n hackers Nov 21 14:00:11 * ElVox is a cracker Nov 21 14:00:41 chat room yacker? Nov 21 14:01:15 nah, more like "breaking" software :P Nov 21 14:01:54 harsh Nov 21 14:03:24 right now, i am just searching for music that speaks to my soul at 9am Nov 21 14:04:35 I don't think that exists 4 me Nov 21 14:06:11 "mama was queen of the mambo; papa was king of the congo; deep down in a jungle I start banging my first bongo; every monkey like to be in my place instead of me; 'cause im the king of bongo baby - im the king of bongo bong!" Nov 21 14:06:55 I guess that could help Nov 21 14:07:33 Dremel, too early for you? :P Nov 21 14:08:28 yes it is.. busy day yesterday Nov 21 14:08:43 gonna play roofer today Nov 21 14:10:47 ugh, i had a roofer friend a few years ago...nearly cut his thumb off cutting some aluminum flashing Nov 21 14:12:48 I can't still count to 21 with my own digits so i'm ok Nov 21 14:15:02 you can count to a hundred (well 99) easily using only your hands. had an old [like punchcard old] programmer show me the trick years back. Nov 21 14:22:18 :) Nov 21 14:22:49 well. time for roof'n. c you l8r Nov 21 14:23:10 ElVox: Mano Chao Nov 21 14:23:32 use binary... Nov 21 14:23:38 yup, an oodly addictive song Nov 21 14:24:39 with wirc and 2TMe communication is cool, but the batt Nov 21 14:25:58 actually, your fingers on your dominant hand stands for ones (just like you normally count) the thumb is your 5 placeholder...once you reach the number 10, you raise a finger on your other hand (the fingers each represent the 10s) once you hit 49 you raise your non dominant thumb (to represent 50) and start all over Nov 21 14:26:59 if you *see* someone count this way it makes much more sense Nov 21 14:27:39 goes it further than dual system? Nov 21 14:30:19 huh? you can't easily count in binary (try it) and figuring out what number you have in your fingures is not simple. the way I mentioned involves just adding up say 50(left thumb) + 10(left finger) + 5(right thumb) + 1(r finger) + 1(r finger) + 1(r finger) (which are the figures raised) means you counted to 68 Nov 21 14:31:02 *"fingers raised" Nov 21 14:31:52 technically using toes, you should be able to count to 10k Nov 21 15:05:10 * ElVox sips the best damn coffee on earth. Nov 21 15:05:58 rwhitby: I didn't write it! Nov 21 15:07:24 Error trying to install/start the VBox images in Ubuntu 9.10 VBox 3.0.12: "Format Autodetect failed: VERR_NOT_SUPPORTED" Nov 21 15:15:12 roy, didn't write the interview yet? Nov 21 15:16:47 ElVox: Not finished editing and approving it Nov 21 15:17:29 i am looking foward to it Nov 21 15:17:29 Rolling back to 3.0.10 from virtualbox repo.. hopefully this will work. Nov 21 15:17:33 i never updated VBox Nov 21 15:17:57 3.0.12 worked for me... Nov 21 15:18:18 Roy-Pre101: you had 3.0.12 installed when you installed the SDK? Nov 21 15:18:22 no. Nov 21 15:18:24 or you had the SDK installed and upgraded to 3.0.12? Nov 21 15:18:28 yes Nov 21 15:18:33 im using 3.0.4 and it works great. i don't update apps that bug me about updating Nov 21 15:18:36 See, I am just now installing the sdk Nov 21 15:23:00 *sigh* i need a crucible Nov 21 15:23:59 fixed.. reinstalled sdk Nov 21 15:24:07 apparently the images zip didn't install properly Nov 21 15:25:29 cool Nov 21 15:33:21 "When the last living thing has died on account of us, how poetical it would be if Earth could say, in a voice floating up perhaps from the floor of the Grand Canyon, 'It is done.' People did not like it here." - Kurt Vonnegut Nov 21 15:34:54 dBsooner: who do the Sooners play today? Nov 21 15:39:31 So, I submit my app in August. Finally got a handler on Monday. Submitted the final version via portal on Wednesday. App shows up in catalog last night without hearing anything from Palm. Nov 21 15:46:23 haeffb, was it the updated version at least? the dev to palm communications channel does seem to be increasingly one-way Nov 21 16:10:41 yes, it was the new version. I found out it was in the App Catalog because I started getting support email questions...! Nov 21 16:37:20 hey Nov 21 16:37:36 is there a recording applicaiton for sound? Nov 21 16:55:15 ShadeS: not yet. Nov 21 16:55:16 shades for webos? Nov 21 16:55:21 yeah not yet Nov 21 16:58:55 Roy-Pre101 I'm PM you Nov 21 17:05:49 JenP: hi Nov 21 17:06:19 hi haeffb! Nov 21 17:06:50 * haeffb_ is now published in app catalog!!!! Nov 21 17:08:20 woot has LG bluetooth stereo headset for $19.99 Nov 21 17:09:32 not yet? Nov 21 17:09:36 what the fu Nov 21 17:10:01 that is lame i wanted to feed my kaossilator into my pre Nov 21 17:49:12 what's the best way to say "i will need to reprogram your existing files to make them function correctly"? Nov 21 17:49:27 to a client Nov 21 17:54:48 not sure TBH - it depends on the client. everyone wants to do whatever is the cheapest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_debt your challenge is to convince the client to think about what is cheapest in the long-term Nov 21 17:56:00 Agreed Nov 21 18:02:23 rboatright: ping Nov 21 18:03:26 Dear english natives: would you say: Hit the ball over a distance of 250 meters or 273 yards and more. Nov 21 18:03:40 It's about Golf Nov 21 18:03:45 Hit the ball... ? Nov 21 18:03:48 the first one Nov 21 18:03:52 or Get the ball... ? Nov 21 18:04:09 Hit the ball over 250 meters Nov 21 18:04:24 thank you Nov 21 18:04:26 is how I would say it, but I'm a backwoods Texan Nov 21 18:04:31 ;) Nov 21 18:05:14 it's enough, I would say :D Nov 21 18:05:36 in the US, we'd say "yards" not "meters"... Nov 21 18:05:49 well, yeah...that, too Nov 21 18:06:15 yards, right Nov 21 18:07:44 It's a project from a friend: http://www.ogcopen.com/ Nov 21 18:22:09 rboatright: I'm going to be out for a bit, check your email Nov 21 18:27:43 good evening Nov 21 18:27:59 i've got some sound questions Nov 21 18:30:46 i've got the error "cannot call method 'serviceRequest' of undefined" Nov 21 18:31:48 I am away from my my PC, are the patches coming along for 1.3.1? :) Nov 21 18:32:58 swisstomcat: how to call it? Nov 21 18:33:34 the var before .serviceRequest is undefined Nov 21 18:33:35 first i create the audio object .. this.audioPlayer = new Audio(); Nov 21 18:33:57 thing is, i don't see any servicerquest :) Nov 21 18:34:11 hm Nov 21 18:34:28 //--> Set the audio src and play Nov 21 18:34:28 try { Nov 21 18:34:28 this.audioPlayer.src = null; Nov 21 18:34:28 this.audioPlayer.load(); Nov 21 18:34:28 var file = Mojo.appPath + 'audio/'+file; Nov 21 18:34:29 this.audioPlayer.src = file; Nov 21 18:34:31 } catch(err) { Nov 21 18:34:32 then I'm lost... Nov 21 18:34:33 Mojo.Controller.errorDialog("There was an error resetting the audio. Error: " + err); Nov 21 18:34:35 } Nov 21 18:34:37 this.audioPlayer.play(); Nov 21 18:34:57 this is were it craps out Nov 21 18:34:59 and the error comes inside the try/catch? Nov 21 18:35:02 yup Nov 21 18:35:21 maybe load() isn't good, when src is null? Nov 21 18:36:00 apparently that's fine .. src=null resets the audio object that has been created in setup Nov 21 18:37:11 have you tried src = file and load after this? Nov 21 18:38:47 Does anyone have this file /usr/palm/applications/com.palm.app.soundsandalerts/app/views/soundsalertsconfig/soundsalertsconfig-scene.html? Nov 21 18:39:30 i can try Nov 21 18:40:36 same Nov 21 18:40:43 strange ... Nov 21 18:40:50 *headscratch* Nov 21 18:42:29 I can't find it in WebOS Doctor Nov 21 19:01:59 Mark_M: it's on the emulator Nov 21 19:03:34 haeffb, strange it wouldn't be in WebOS Doctor. Nov 21 19:04:07 it's also on my Pre Nov 21 19:05:22 The SMS Tone Per Contact patch modified it and now I don't have the original Nov 21 19:06:45 I backed out hte patch by hand and things seem to be back to normal. Nov 21 19:14:46 haeffb_: They are playing Texas Tech Nov 21 19:18:34 dBsooner: yep, watching that while listening to MU-ISU Nov 21 19:19:22 It's not a very good game for the Sooners so far.. Of course losing your 2nd string center, putting you down ANOTHER lineman doesn't help. Nov 21 19:29:59 is it possible to get access to the javascript call stack (for debugging)? Nov 21 19:53:31 hey Nov 21 19:56:55 dBsooner: injuries have killed OU this year. Too bad the Tigers don't play them.... :) Nov 21 20:07:45 hi again Nov 21 20:07:56 anyword on Rdesktop for the Pre yet? Nov 21 20:08:17 audio now plays fine Nov 21 20:08:28 woo! someone bought and rated my app finally! Nov 21 20:08:31 * pandora-- happy dance Nov 21 20:08:33 i'm rich! Nov 21 20:08:35 lol Nov 21 20:08:47 but detecting when the sound has ended doesn't Nov 21 20:08:56 also... is this awesome or not awesome: http://thegoldenratios.com/ Nov 21 20:09:21 * pandora-- clicks Nov 21 20:10:46 grats on app purchase! Nov 21 20:10:51 tytyty Nov 21 20:11:42 who here visits everythingpre? Nov 21 20:11:55 Allistairr: poorly described, but could be useful i suppose Nov 21 20:16:09 so I have a timeout I set and stop in my app many times using : this.timeoutId = setTimeout(this.timeCommand.bind(this), this.time); and clearTimeout(this.timeoutId); - works great in the app - but if I back gesture out I have the same in deactivate and cleanup: clearTimeout(this.timeoutId); - but it doesn't seem to clear the Timeout…it still goes off…any ideas? Nov 21 20:19:53 possibly losing the proper binding? Nov 21 20:20:51 I tried this in the deactivate and cleanup with no effect…: clearTimeout(this.timeoutId.bind(this)); Nov 21 20:20:55 natenrb9: try it with a global var instead of this.id Nov 21 20:21:12 so like: globalVarName = setTimeout(blahblahblah) Nov 21 20:21:12 Works here with global Nov 21 20:21:45 sugardave/reality9110: good idea, I'll try it Nov 21 20:21:45 That's how I do ad rotation Nov 21 20:21:45 natenrb9: you won't need to do a bind in the actual clearTimeout Nov 21 20:21:49 shouldn't need to Nov 21 20:21:56 natenrb9: I don't put it in cleanup though Nov 21 20:22:41 I think I just leave mine in deactivate Nov 21 20:22:42 ? Nov 21 20:22:57 change font of checkbox anyone? Nov 21 20:23:22 not sure if we can change fonts? haven't tried it, though Nov 21 20:23:51 Sure you can. You just need to figure out what exactly webos uses as the class. Nov 21 20:24:13 ah, okay Nov 21 20:24:24 Certain classes are used for everything. Like title is used for the app menu. Nov 21 20:24:44 yeah, I'm still not grokking the HTML/CSS stuff Nov 21 20:24:57 nobody has ever change the font of a checkbox? Nov 21 20:25:00 but hey, Ares is supposed to make me a master designer when it comes out, yes? Nov 21 20:25:19 Equilibrium: Just figure out what class it uses. Nov 21 20:26:11 .checkbox { Nov 21 20:26:11 width: 33px; Nov 21 20:26:11 height: 27px; Nov 21 20:26:11 float: left; Nov 21 20:26:11 background: url(../images/checkbox.png) top no-repeat; Nov 21 20:26:11 } Nov 21 20:26:39 Equilibrium: That's going to have a subclass. Something like .checkbox .title {} Nov 21 20:28:19 sugardave/reality9110: making it a global var did the trick! awesome, thanks! Nov 21 20:28:25 my html is like this Nov 21 20:28:28
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Nov 21 20:29:09 .checkboxdivCL .checkbox .title { Nov 21 20:29:09 font-size: 14px; Nov 21 20:29:09 } Nov 21 20:29:15 not working Nov 21 20:30:46 Equilibrium: Looking in the manual, it doesn't look like it has a class to change the font Nov 21 20:31:30 equilibrium: are you giving a title to each checkbox? Nov 21 20:31:59 i use only one... Nov 21 20:32:00 equilibrium: I just added in my own div with a title and positioned/styled it how I wanted Nov 21 20:32:00 Equilibrium: are you just wanting to change the font size? Nov 21 20:32:06 or the font itself? Nov 21 20:32:17 to put on title on my checkboxes Nov 21 20:37:28 I have a checkbox and on it's right there is a title/lable you name it Nov 21 20:37:38 how can i change it;s size? Nov 21 20:38:03 just don't label it and create your own div with its own positioning and styling Nov 21 20:38:17 Equilibrium: Remove the label in the script, make your own div for it, label it, change that font. Nov 21 20:38:21 It's not rocket science. Nov 21 20:38:40 reality9110: exactly, lol Nov 21 20:38:55 tried it this way Nov 21 20:38:56
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Nov 21 20:39:13 didn't work Nov 21 20:39:23 Of course that wouldn't work. Nov 21 20:39:25 am i doing somethng wrong? Nov 21 20:39:44 the label is created by the framework Nov 21 20:39:58 your div isn't the div of the label, I guess Nov 21 20:40:34 Make it
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Nov 21 20:41:01 And remove the other crap from the checkboxdiv Nov 21 20:43:04 Hello everyone Nov 21 20:43:20 CTLAdvance-work: yo dawg Nov 21 20:43:27 Whats up Nov 21 20:43:54 reality9110 the other crap is the mojo SDK of palm , sorry if i miss led you Nov 21 20:43:56 Anyone know the best way to make app icons, I have photshop 7 but cant get the results I want Nov 21 20:44:10 esp not at 48x48px Nov 21 20:44:10 try gimp Nov 21 20:44:11 CTLAdvance-work: ask nicely? Nov 21 20:44:18 Plase Nov 21 20:44:19 Equilibrium: The style="" stuff is not sdk stuff. Nov 21 20:44:28 spelling fail Nov 21 20:44:31 indeed Nov 21 20:44:33 Pretty pwease Nov 21 20:44:34 i use iconfx Nov 21 20:44:44 works really nicely Nov 21 20:45:05 ooh ill take a look Nov 21 20:45:19 CTLAdvance-work: Do the image large, then crop tightly, then use image size and drop it down to 48x48 Nov 21 20:45:23 yeah you can take your photoshops right into Nov 21 20:46:03 So start with a big picture and it fixes them up? to icon size? Nov 21 20:46:24 Yes Nov 21 20:46:44 nice yeah with ps its pixelating to much and I cant get what I need Nov 21 20:46:53 with ps7 that is :/ Nov 21 20:47:05 Might be time to upgrade but it so expensive Nov 21 20:47:09 reality9110 thanks!! Nov 21 20:47:09 ctladvance-work: shouldn't matter what version Nov 21 20:47:11 CTLAdvance-work: Also, remember that resolution is important when doing these things Nov 21 20:47:20 are you elarging or shrinking the image? Nov 21 20:47:28 enlarging Nov 21 20:47:34 Making app icons and smaller images etc Nov 21 20:47:42 usually shrinking for use in apps Nov 21 20:47:51 but what are you starting with? Nov 21 20:48:11 is every version (even the original) pixelated? Nov 21 20:48:40 Is it icofx or iconfx Nov 21 20:49:00 icofx Nov 21 20:49:05 thanks Nov 21 20:53:04 icofx is awesome! Thanks Nov 21 20:54:45 another question .. maybe it's more a basic javascript one Nov 21 20:54:51 say i have a function Nov 21 20:55:14 SecondAssistant.prototype.playAudo = function(file) { Nov 21 20:55:26 if (!this.playing) { Nov 21 20:55:36 this.playing=true; Nov 21 20:56:02 what's the scope of this? Nov 21 20:56:09 the function? Nov 21 20:56:13 playAudio? Nov 21 20:56:52 what does this.playing=true do .. set the property playing of the function playAudio to true? Nov 21 20:57:58 Does anyone know what all of the Commandmenu icons are? Nov 21 20:58:15 swisstomcat: _if_ I understand the basics...this is bound to the function scope Nov 21 20:59:35 i read that functions in javascripts are object Nov 21 20:59:46 so this.playing means playAudio.playing Nov 21 21:02:57 With icofx what are you doing to make the 64x64? Nov 21 21:03:05 Just resizing the 48? Nov 21 21:04:12 swisstomcat: what are you trying to do? Nov 21 21:04:56 sugardave: play a sound but only if it's not playing already Nov 21 21:05:34 how are you determining it to set the value of playing? Nov 21 21:06:24 CTLAdvance-work: Start with 64 x 64 (use custom size) and then scale down. It's never a good idea to scale up. Nov 21 21:06:39 * sugardave agrees with haeffb_. Nov 21 21:06:46 sugardave: on calling the function it sets it's state to playing Nov 21 21:07:38 sugardave: an event invokes a sound ... this.playAudio('xy.mp3'); Nov 21 21:08:30 this function playAudio checks: if (!this.playing) { this.playing=true; ... play sound } Nov 21 21:08:54 so even if the event happens again, the sound will not play again while it's being played Nov 21 21:08:56 makes sense? Nov 21 21:09:35 swisstomcat: logically, yes...is it working? Nov 21 21:09:52 sugardave: yes, it's working .. but Nov 21 21:10:20 after the playing ends, i have to somehow reset the function's playing state Nov 21 21:10:54 otherwise, it will never play again Nov 21 21:11:01 hmm...might be better to use distinct objects? Nov 21 21:11:14 then you can set their playing property independently Nov 21 21:11:19 and pass them to your function Nov 21 21:11:21 example? Nov 21 21:11:28 Use event listeners Nov 21 21:11:35 sure, gimme a minute and I'll paste one Nov 21 21:11:55 reality9110: i've added an event listener on Media.Event.ENDED Nov 21 21:12:00 swisstomcat: also what reality9110 said, you can assign a listener to the audio object to have a function fire whn it stops playing Nov 21 21:12:09 swisstomcat: And? Nov 21 21:12:22 reality9110: scope problem Nov 21 21:12:41 swisstomcat: What's the problem? Nov 21 21:13:33 this.audioPlayer.addEventListener( Nov 21 21:13:33 Media.Event.ENDED, Nov 21 21:13:33 function(evt) { Mojo.Log.error("Playback ended.") },false); Nov 21 21:14:01 swisstomcat: http://webos.pastebin.com/d4686042b Nov 21 21:14:04 how do i set playAudio.playing to false? Nov 21 21:15:05 the event correctly fires on playback end Nov 21 21:15:53 sugardave: thanks .. let me try it in my code Nov 21 21:16:04 playAudio.playing = false Nov 21 21:16:08 swisstomcat: use what I pasted and you can change the property of the object mySound.playing = false; when it's done Nov 21 21:18:01 howdy Nov 21 21:18:05 hey Roy Nov 21 21:18:38 * sugardave breaks NDA. Nov 21 21:18:47 reality9110: function(evt) { Nov 21 21:18:47 Mojo.Log.error("Playback ended. state: "+PlayAudio.playing); Nov 21 21:18:47 }, doesn't work Nov 21 21:20:00 umm...you notice you have a capital P there? is that a real typo or an irc typo? Nov 21 21:20:13 oh ... Nov 21 21:20:18 :D Nov 21 21:21:29 is there a way to disable IntegerPicker ? Nov 21 21:21:33 hmm Nov 21 21:21:37 no event is fired Nov 21 21:22:00 Equilibrium: $('id').disable should do it Nov 21 21:22:06 .disable() Nov 21 21:22:40 shouldn't playAudio.playing be true? Nov 21 21:22:48 when the event is fired? Nov 21 21:23:04 swiss, what are you trying to do? Nov 21 21:23:18 roy: some audio playing Nov 21 21:23:49 swisstomcat: Im still not convinced that you should put the playing property on the function Nov 21 21:23:54 sugardave: will try your method too Nov 21 21:23:56 did you see the stuff I put on webos101.com? Nov 21 21:24:35 roy: about audio playback? Nov 21 21:25:29 swisstomcat: yes, good stuff there Nov 21 21:26:41 the sample sound class? Nov 21 21:26:56 yes Nov 21 21:27:18 hmm Nov 21 21:28:01 roy: i see the media.event.ended handler Nov 21 21:28:30 but what's event.target.play(); .. what's target? Nov 21 21:30:47 sugardave: i rewrote my stuff according to you example on pastebin .. let's see if it works Nov 21 21:30:47 swisstomcat: target is a property of the event object Nov 21 21:30:57 k Nov 21 21:31:12 * haeffb_ is amazed that people will download TaskAdder when they have no clue what a Toodeldo is. Nov 21 21:31:13 swisstomcat: Setting up listeners for audio isn't as straight forward as you'd think it is. Nov 21 21:31:49 * haeffb_ sigh Nov 21 21:31:50 * sugardave can't wait for some easier audio API goodness. Nov 21 21:32:02 sugardave: seriously... Nov 21 21:32:04 easier than this? :) Nov 21 21:32:45 haha Nov 21 21:32:52 yeah, just a _little_ Nov 21 21:33:21 hmm, no more sound Nov 21 21:33:35 the biggest problem with the audio is that if you try to do multiple sound effects it bogs the system down big time... Nov 21 21:33:49 "TaskAdder is the easy way for Toodledo users to add tasks to your Toodledo account while on the go from your webOS device." Nov 21 21:33:54 swisstomcat: paste up your code...my example was missing a whole lot of stuff Nov 21 21:34:03 hmm...I don't know what Toodledo is, but this is free....so.... Nov 21 21:34:13 haeffb: hehe Nov 21 21:34:21 haeffb_: are people leaving negative comments? is that the problem? Nov 21 21:34:40 no, I'm getting support email questions. "How do I get a password?" Nov 21 21:34:48 oh, lol Nov 21 21:35:19 sugardave: it's up Nov 21 21:35:24 I've got an update that adds instructions on the login scene, but who knows how long it will take Palm to get the update into the catalog. Nov 21 21:35:25 link? Nov 21 21:35:35 http://webos.pastebin.com/m7eaab734 Nov 21 21:36:27 do they ever do catalog pushes on sat/sun? Nov 21 21:40:02 * haeffb_ thinks they have in the past, but probably not a regular occurrence Nov 21 21:40:25 nate not usually :/ Nov 21 21:40:38 My app was supposed to go in yesterday but they found a last minute bug Nov 21 21:40:52 that's a pity Nov 21 21:40:55 We turned it around in less than 5 minutes and didnt make it Nov 21 21:41:03 reality9110: isn't my problem more about javascript per se? Nov 21 21:41:09 Teh sad thing is it was in the catalog already for about 10 minutes Nov 21 21:41:15 Then they yanked it Nov 21 21:41:34 swisstomcat: see what this does for you Nov 21 21:41:38 http://webos.pastebin.com/d61522dbf Nov 21 21:42:29 sugardave: shouldn't my code at least play the sound? Nov 21 21:45:10 swisstomcat: it was the same code for setting up the object and playing it that worked before? Nov 21 21:45:28 yup Nov 21 21:46:26 strange Nov 21 21:46:33 then yeah, it should play...wrap it in a try/catch and see if there's anything interesting happening Nov 21 21:48:21 will do Nov 21 21:49:32 nope Nov 21 21:51:43 strange Nov 21 21:59:06 *headscratch* Nov 21 21:59:31 sugardave: i have a mojo.log.error first thing in the function, but it doesn't log anything Nov 21 22:00:04 than it crashs before? Nov 21 22:00:46 any error in the log? Nov 21 22:00:52 nope Nov 21 22:01:25 the event handler that calls the function is fired correctly Nov 21 22:02:40 maybe the mojo.log.error call is crashing... Nov 21 22:02:54 that would suck Nov 21 22:03:34 add some more Mojo.Log.error() Nov 21 22:03:37 how is the function called from your handler? Nov 21 22:03:38 I think I've had it do that when trying to include a variable that was undefined in the error message Nov 21 22:03:40 did you .bind(this) ? Nov 21 22:04:14 metaview: this.playAudio("camel.mp3"); Nov 21 22:04:21 btw. what's a bogey ? Nov 21 22:04:47 and how is the event handler called? Nov 21 22:04:56 or better setup ? Nov 21 22:05:03 this.controller.listen(document, 'shaking', this.handleShaking.bindAsEventListener(this)); Nov 21 22:05:03 are you sure this is valid? Nov 21 22:06:15 handleShaking is called but playAudio not enymore? Nov 21 22:06:42 metaview: playaudio is called in handleShaking Nov 21 22:07:20 yes, but a Mojo.Log.error(sound) in playAudio doesn't show up anything? Nov 21 22:07:45 bogey is 1 over par Nov 21 22:08:04 well, I thought if it might be an animal or something too Nov 21 22:08:12 like birdie, from bird Nov 21 22:08:28 hmmmm... Nov 21 22:09:01 metaview: Mojo.Log.error(sound) doesn't show up anything Nov 21 22:09:39 http://golf.about.com/cs/historyofgolf/a/hist_wordbogey.htm Nov 21 22:09:45 then try Mojo.log.error(this) before the playSound call Nov 21 22:10:21 haeffb_: thx :) Nov 21 22:10:29 swisstomcat: try Mojo.Log.error('Yes!!!') just to see if you're making it to the function Nov 21 22:11:13 will do Nov 21 22:12:10 me too, me too Nov 21 22:12:20 all i see is error: [object Object] from Mojo.Log.error(this); Nov 21 22:13:01 hm, right, but there is some prototype stuff to examine such an object, isn't there? Nov 21 22:13:16 swisstomcat: this is an object, so the error is correct. Nov 21 22:13:19 show the functions or properties Nov 21 22:13:24 hmm Nov 21 22:13:26 Mojo.Log.logProperties Nov 21 22:13:36 maybe, would be interesting Nov 21 22:15:37 the old version is working Nov 21 22:15:47 this.playAudio("camel.mp3"); Nov 21 22:15:59 var mySound = { Nov 21 22:15:59 'file': 'camel.mp3', Nov 21 22:15:59 'playing': true Nov 21 22:15:59 }; Nov 21 22:16:06 this.playAudio(mySound); Nov 21 22:16:09 doesn't work Nov 21 22:16:25 oh Nov 21 22:16:44 then you use sound.file and sound.playing? Nov 21 22:16:48 yeah Nov 21 22:16:53 that doesn't work Nov 21 22:16:59 but if i pass a string, it works Nov 21 22:17:09 Mojo.Log.error(sound.file); Nov 21 22:17:15 why do you pass this object? Nov 21 22:17:47 metaview: i want to make sure that the sound is only played once Nov 21 22:18:13 but you can acccess the property: playing Nov 21 22:18:20 this.playing Nov 21 22:18:37 haeffb: not even Mojo.Log.error('Yes!!!'); works Nov 21 22:19:04 this.playAudio(mySound); seems to be the problem .. passing an object Nov 21 22:19:41 var mysound is defined in setup Nov 21 22:20:23 mysound ? Nov 21 22:20:26 then mysound is only defined within the setup() function. Where are you calling this.playAudio()? Nov 21 22:20:27 or mySound ? Nov 21 22:20:45 mySound Nov 21 22:20:48 haeffb: oh Nov 21 22:21:17 var XXX means you only want the variable available in that specific scope Nov 21 22:21:36 but setting up mySound in the event Handler wouldn't work Nov 21 22:21:41 try this.mySound = {} instead Nov 21 22:21:59 k Nov 21 22:22:05 skip the mySound stuff Nov 21 22:22:19 and just access the properties of this Nov 21 22:22:27 ? Nov 21 22:22:55 in the evet handler: this.file = "camel.mp3"; Nov 21 22:23:17 in playaudio: this.playing and this. file Nov 21 22:23:23 will that work? Nov 21 22:23:35 why not? Nov 21 22:23:40 it's all the same this Nov 21 22:23:56 because i want the sound to play only once even when the event fires several times Nov 21 22:24:32 right, you only set this.playing in playAudio Nov 21 22:24:42 and before you check it Nov 21 22:24:44 if ( this.file == "camel.mp3" ) { Nov 21 22:24:46 do stuff Nov 21 22:24:47 } Nov 21 22:25:39 * swisstomcat is confused Nov 21 22:26:04 look here again. http://webos.pastebin.com/d61522dbf Nov 21 22:26:31 oh, wrong link Nov 21 22:26:59 what I meant: you have a var playing, which prevents you from playing twice Nov 21 22:27:07 correct Nov 21 22:27:16 it's a property of your assistent Nov 21 22:27:26 which you can access using this Nov 21 22:28:08 well Nov 21 22:28:14 the first, first version was Nov 21 22:28:20 if (!this.playing) { this.playing = true; play some stuff} Nov 21 22:28:24 SecondAssistant.prototype.playAudio = function(name) { Nov 21 22:28:24 if (!this.playing) { Nov 21 22:28:24 this.playing = true; Nov 21 22:28:44 yeah, i had this at the beginning Nov 21 22:29:30 but then i had problems resetting this property after the sound stopped playing Nov 21 22:31:03 http://webos.pastebin.com/m50768962 Nov 21 22:35:21 haeffb: now i get error: [object Object] when calling Mojo.Log.error("playaudio "+sound.file+" state "+sound.playing); Nov 21 22:35:24 it's easy: var locthis = this; Nov 21 22:35:29 locthis.playing = false; Nov 21 22:36:11 metaview: where? Nov 21 22:36:44 in the event handling function of stop playing Nov 21 22:37:04 no, the var locthis = this; before you define the handler Nov 21 22:37:12 this.audioPlayer.addEventListener( Nov 21 22:37:12 Media.Event.ENDED, Nov 21 22:37:12 function(evt) { Nov 21 22:37:12 Mojo.Log.error("Playback ended."); Nov 21 22:37:12 }, Nov 21 22:37:12 false Nov 21 22:37:14 ); Nov 21 22:37:15 locthis.playing = false; inside the handler Nov 21 22:37:28 handler == event listener Nov 21 22:37:39 I use your link, wait Nov 21 22:39:03 http://webos.pastebin.com/m2e8cea01 Nov 21 22:39:42 Hello Nov 21 22:40:24 * swisstomcat 's head spins Nov 21 22:40:44 if I write a wrapper function around something like pushScene, shouldn't I be able to do pushScene(arguments) to get the arguments that were passed to my wrapper function? Nov 21 22:40:51 * CTLAdvance-webos jumps up and down Nov 21 22:40:58 metaview: i kinda get what you're going for Nov 21 22:41:20 What's the question Nov 21 22:42:10 * swisstomcat jumps up and down Nov 21 22:42:20 * swisstomcat kisses metaview Nov 21 22:42:21 :) Nov 21 22:42:29 * MetaView blushes Nov 21 22:42:34 or how it is called Nov 21 22:43:39 var locthis = this -> i create a variable that contains the function object properties Nov 21 22:44:03 yes, and such subfunctions can access all local vars Nov 21 22:44:04 locthis.playing ->i reference a property Nov 21 22:44:10 * CTLAdvance-webos runs in a circle Nov 21 22:44:25 metaview: this is a bit confusing Nov 21 22:45:25 it is, but you can not access this-pointer, only local vars Nov 21 22:46:05 another way would be to define an extra member-function as event listener and do a .bind(this) Nov 21 22:46:41 don't know the syntax, would have to search for it, the var locthis = this; is easier to write Nov 21 22:47:24 thanks metaview Nov 21 22:47:35 you're welcome Nov 21 22:47:41 i'll probably open source my first app, so others can learn from it Nov 21 22:49:12 that's fine, what is it about? Nov 21 22:49:21 you shake and it cries? Nov 21 22:49:34 something like that, yes Nov 21 22:50:14 remember the old toys that you had to turn around and they made a sound? Nov 21 22:50:32 a dredel? Nov 21 22:50:56 nah Nov 21 22:51:06 a bear Nov 21 22:51:14 Teddybär Nov 21 22:51:16 more a box .. you turn it on it's head and turn it back .. it makes a sound Nov 21 22:51:28 like my old Teddybär Nov 21 22:51:33 probably Nov 21 22:51:58 now you do the same to your pre .. it will make a sound Nov 21 22:53:05 if i listen to the orientationchange handler, it should work ... shaking will work too Nov 21 22:54:21 like the idea? Nov 21 22:56:00 yes, it's cool Nov 21 22:56:10 may I select my own picture? Nov 21 22:56:16 and sound? Nov 21 22:56:42 then i could use a Teddybär and let it moan or whatever when I turn it around Nov 21 22:56:42 probably Nov 21 22:56:53 or a shaking sound like dices Nov 21 22:57:05 the real dices Nov 21 22:57:31 you could sew the pre into a teddy and it would work too :) Nov 21 22:57:44 yes :) Nov 21 22:57:50 die is the plural of dice iirc Nov 21 22:58:00 um... Nov 21 22:58:04 the other way around. Nov 21 22:58:14 it's opposite day Nov 21 22:58:31 you didn't get the memo? Nov 21 22:59:23 tsk. You folks haven't been updating webos101.com with all your new knowledge! Nov 21 22:59:42 that's what irc is for Nov 21 22:59:49 roy: shall i? Nov 21 22:59:53 Roy-Pre101: oh I did once... Nov 21 23:00:00 swisstomcat: do it Nov 21 23:00:03 approching midnight .. time to go soon Nov 21 23:00:15 swisstomcat: same here :) Nov 21 23:00:21 <-- Germany Nov 21 23:01:17 <-- Switzerland Nov 21 23:02:00 grützi Nov 21 23:02:57 is it possible to run a x-server on the Pre? Nov 21 23:03:09 this isn't a 233mhz fone you know Nov 21 23:03:11 does it integrate into WebOS? Nov 21 23:03:11 it has 8 gb Nov 21 23:03:26 danke nochmals und gute nacht Nov 21 23:03:29 the real question is how much of a pain in the ass is it going to be to make it happen Nov 21 23:03:35 swisstomcat: gern geschehen Nov 21 23:03:52 ShadeS: don't know, but might be nice, or? Nov 21 23:05:11 i wasn't trying to sound liek an ass lol Nov 21 23:06:34 well, I don't know yet, what I would do with a x-server Nov 21 23:08:27 want to compile a service Nov 21 23:08:39 maybe I should join webos-internals? Nov 21 23:09:27 join #webos-internals Nov 21 23:14:40 anyome heard of apps not installing from the catalog? Nov 21 23:15:11 the app limit may reached Nov 21 23:25:49 arg, this shouldn't be that hard...how would I write a wrapper for pushScene so that you would call my function just as you would the other? I try to do pushScene(arguments); in my wrapper, but it just isn't doing what I'd expect it to do Nov 21 23:27:11 pushscene calls in return your callbacks, right? Nov 21 23:28:04 r u just calling the scene with arguments u mean? Nov 21 23:29:31 MetaView: not sure what you mean? Nov 21 23:29:34 bmyers: yes Nov 21 23:29:48 basically: wrapper('name', argument); Nov 21 23:29:59 and I want pushScene(arguments); to work in wrapper Nov 21 23:30:42 I thought the assistent is created on pushscene, how will you call it before? Nov 21 23:31:02 but maybe I'm mixing things up Nov 21 23:31:06 MetaView: my wrapper is run in the stage assistant Nov 21 23:31:09 this.controller.stageController.pushScene('add', this.db, this.listModel, event.index); Nov 21 23:31:17 i do this all the time.. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Nov 21 23:31:59 you want a function around that call? Nov 21 23:31:59 bmyers: yeah, that's no problem...but I want my wrapper to be used instead of pushScene, so I need to be able to pass it the same arguments, then pass them along to pushScene Nov 21 23:32:09 I thought the arguments array would be the answer, but it isn't working Nov 21 23:32:28 does pushscene happen? Nov 21 23:32:33 or you dont get the args? Nov 21 23:33:00 it happens, but it's scene: undefined Nov 21 23:33:01 o Nov 21 23:33:07 instead of the first argument Nov 21 23:33:30 push a key value array? (which is what args is anyway) Nov 21 23:34:23 yeah, I'm trying to make it pretty generic to handle whatever another dev might use to push their scene Nov 21 23:34:28 I have an idea for something to try Nov 21 23:34:48 wow, and it doesnt work? Nov 21 23:34:54 seems pretty simple. Nov 21 23:35:47 yeah, that's what I thought Nov 21 23:37:33 your logged arguments reports correctly inside the sunction b4 it passed it to pushscene? Nov 21 23:37:43 your logged arguments reports correctly inside the function b4 it passed it to pushscene? Nov 21 23:44:30 indeed Nov 21 23:44:54 I think it has something to do with pushScene itself...wants its first arg to be a string or JSON object, perhaps? Nov 21 23:46:23 i pass a db ref as my first arg. ? Nov 21 23:46:47 i'd go with the key/value array and .each your way thru it. Nov 21 23:46:54 no you don't, you pass the scen name Nov 21 23:47:18 o, yeah. the first arg I can use is a db ref.. Nov 21 23:47:47 that's what I mean...if the first arg is not a string (meaning, I can't send an arguments array) pushScene doesn't work Nov 21 23:47:50 I think.... Nov 21 23:47:52 about to see Nov 21 23:49:55 the first arg to pushscene isnt a string? it kinda looks like one.. Nov 21 23:50:03 Any devs here with experience creating multi-stage or background apps? Nov 21 23:50:07 got a single quote and everything.. Nov 21 23:51:40 bmyers: I believe it can be an object or a string: http://www.weboshelp.net/webos-mojo-development-resources/api-reference/220-mojo-controller-stagecontroller-pushscene Nov 21 23:52:16 bmyers: it is a string...that seems to be why I can't say pushScene(arguments); Nov 21 23:52:58 did u look at the link from Lax? Nov 21 23:53:00 sugardave: do you have a "name" argument? Nov 21 23:53:15 it may help. Nov 21 23:54:42 Laxidasical: you missed the first part...I'm trying to write a generic wrapper for pushScene that can handle whatever way another dev might try to use pushScene Nov 21 23:55:12 so, I need to be able to handle wrapper('name', arg1, arg2); and wrapper({'name': blah, 'blah..etc.. Nov 21 23:55:35 and I WANTED to just do pushScene(arguments) in my wrapper, but that doesn't work Nov 21 23:55:53 nut they'll be calling that from another app Nov 21 23:55:58 but they'll be calling that from another app Nov 21 23:56:11 ? Nov 21 23:56:43 yeah, basically it will be used instead of pushScene in order to do some cloud stuff and then push the scene Nov 21 23:57:25 did you see the part about craoss app launch? Nov 21 23:58:23 the camera example? yeah, that's a good example of the object method for parameter passing Nov 21 23:59:49 I think I got it, but it seems to only work for one parameter...good enough for testing to continue Nov 22 00:04:57 sugar dave:The arguments property consists of an array of all the arguments passed to a function. The arguments property is only available inside a function, but can be used to refer to any of the function's arguments by stating the appropriate element of the array. For example; arguments[0]; newFunction.arguments[1] etc. (Note that the arguments property can be preceeded by the function name). The arguments array is especially useful with fu Nov 22 00:05:10 function.arguments Nov 22 00:05:20 function.arguments.length Nov 22 00:08:35 Keep in mind arguments is -not- an array. Nov 22 00:08:45 For reasons beyond understanding. Nov 22 00:09:15 you reference it like one tho? Nov 22 00:09:17 And, apparently, you can get the arguments of other functions in some implementations! Nov 22 00:09:26 Yes, but you can't use array functions on it. Nov 22 00:09:33 methods. Nov 22 00:09:44 like .each ? Nov 22 00:09:48 right. Nov 22 00:10:05 you have for for i=1; i++ i whatever { stuff } Nov 22 00:11:05 you have to do a good ole for loop thru it in otherwords?. Nov 22 00:11:29 which you are supposed to for arrays. Nov 22 00:12:09 o, interesting. I though .each was supposed to handle the dirty work of iterating thru an array. Nov 22 00:19:04 bmyers, function based iteration (each) can be some 10x-20x slower than for or do or while (all the same) Nov 22 00:23:42 * ElVox says even though his code is littered with jquery each's Nov 22 00:24:50 anyone know how can I delete a whole account from the Contacts? Nov 22 00:25:55 Roy-Pre101: correct, but you CAN force it into an actual Array and do things like: sceneName=tmpArray.shift(); passArgs=tmpArray; Nov 22 00:26:05 yet it still won't see past the first parameter Nov 22 00:26:11 when I finally get into the scene Nov 22 00:28:00 it still seems crazy that I can't just use arguments in my pushScene call Nov 22 00:29:16 sugardave: What do you mean? You can pass as many arguments as you want with pushScene Nov 22 00:30:20 okay, try this: I have a wrapper function that I want to use for pushScene. So, I want to be able to do wrapper('scene', arg0, arg1, arg2); and have pushScene(arguments); just work Nov 22 00:30:22 but, it doesn't Nov 22 00:33:05 sugardave: first of all it would be ...pushScene(wrapper_function_name.arguments); Nov 22 00:34:13 ElVox: even if pushScene is inside my wrapper? Nov 22 00:34:28 http://www.devguru.com/Technologies/Ecmascript/Quickref/arguments.html Nov 22 00:34:39 what bmyers said Nov 22 00:34:50 looking Nov 22 00:35:14 thats funny, i always used the function name... Nov 22 00:39:16 ah, it's fried chicken time Nov 22 00:44:45 sugardave: i think i know what is happening Nov 22 00:45:11 hey guys where does the emulator put the snapshots? Nov 22 00:48:02 sugardave: pushScene(); takes two types of parameters: 1) a string followed by other things or 2) an object with named parameters. you take the first format for your wrapper function and then you try to pass arguments to pushScene. pushScene gets the argument array and says "oy, t'is ain't no bloomin' string, must be a named parameter object!" which of course it isn't Nov 22 00:49:20 so it's strings or an object but not both? Nov 22 00:51:22 what you really want is function myWrapper(myObj){ pushScene(myObj); }; called like this: myWrapper({name:"myscene", arg:"arg"}); Nov 22 00:53:38 wait just remembeed OR you call pushScene using apply: ...pushScene.apply(this, arguments); which will automatically blow up your array Nov 22 00:55:49 * ElVox feels stupid now... Nov 22 00:56:08 what you are trying to do is the reason apply exists haha Nov 22 00:58:46 JenP: depends on the host platform, which OS are you using? Nov 22 00:58:57 Windows 7 Nov 22 00:59:20 should be under .VirtualBox\Machines\Palm SDK 1.3.1.314 (320x480)\Snapshots in your user directory Nov 22 00:59:32 thanks ElVox Nov 22 00:59:54 yw Nov 22 00:59:58 g'day Nov 22 01:00:30 kesne, yo dawg Nov 22 01:00:42 I LOVE that app Nov 22 01:01:22 don't we all Nov 22 01:01:57 hmm. well, it ain't no MethMakerPro Nov 22 01:03:35 ElVox: genius, I will try that Nov 22 01:03:45 sugardave: too late Nov 22 01:03:52 we've been working on it for a long time Nov 22 01:04:00 kesne: not that :P Nov 22 01:04:14 oh lol Nov 22 01:04:22 its always about meth with kesne Nov 22 01:04:56 heh Nov 22 01:05:38 If anyone here DL's TaskAdder, "You will need to go to http://www.toodledo.com to register for a Toodledo account." Nov 22 01:05:52 copy, paste, repeat. Nov 22 01:05:54 have any of you been able to launch the phone with a phone number? Nov 22 01:06:05 following the docs for the service api, and just doesnt work Nov 22 01:06:31 I have Nov 22 01:07:09 apparently i dorked something up, it just started working Nov 22 01:07:12 nevvvvvermind : Nov 22 01:07:13 :) Nov 22 01:07:15 pandora---: You could try just a phone Nov 22 01:07:17 oh lol Nov 22 01:07:17 okay Nov 22 01:09:23 naturally. i fight with it for 20min before jumping into IRC. then magically works Nov 22 01:16:19 you know, i think it was because i was using PHP concatenation. "tel://" . model.phonenum Nov 22 01:16:30 *sigh* too many languages this week Nov 22 01:17:01 yup that was it Nov 22 01:20:12 Hi all Nov 22 01:33:15 ElVox: so.....close.....apply is almost working, I can feel it Nov 22 01:34:03 * ElVox wakes up from a crazy dream in which some company made a mobile platform completely on top of the ruby vm... Nov 22 01:34:12 whats 'appenin'? Nov 22 01:36:59 well, I actually had a typo, so new bad things are happening...I'm still testing Nov 22 01:38:31 sugardave: the first parameter to apply will be "this" inside of the function...so if you call: "this.controller.push..." I think you would do it with "this.controller.pushScene.apply(this.controller, arguments);" Nov 22 01:42:27 ElVox: I got it... Mojo.Controller.stageController.pushScene.apply(Mojo.Controller.stageController, arguments); Nov 22 01:42:40 * ElVox cheers Nov 22 01:42:41 thank you! Nov 22 01:42:56 no problem, i love it when a plan comes together Nov 22 01:43:00 indeed Nov 22 01:43:34 * ElVox puts on Manu Chao to celebrate Nov 22 01:48:17 meh, it's still not getting anything after the first "extra" parameter Nov 22 01:52:27 okay, so here's what I see now...if your first argument is a string (scene name) and the next argument is an object, pushScene appears to ignore any arguments after it. If they're all strings all the arguments are accessible after the scene is pushed Nov 22 01:52:34 it's kinda strange Nov 22 02:01:36 ok, let me see if I follow sugardave, if you do myWrapper("scene", {test:"test"}, "hello")...then your scene's activation function, when called, will only have arguments.length = 1 ? Nov 22 02:01:50 instead of the expect length of 2 Nov 22 02:02:30 err, meant, scene constructor (not activation function) Nov 22 02:04:07 ElVox: that's what it looks like Nov 22 02:05:54 (I'm looking at someone else's code): I just realized that the object he has in thie scene is also defined as a global of the same name, so I am making sure I am getting my initial arguments Nov 22 02:06:44 The first argument is the name of the scene to push so it's not passed to the constructor. Nov 22 02:06:54 oh. Nov 22 02:07:02 'hello' was wrapped to the next line. Nov 22 02:07:15 I was using multiple arguments before. Nov 22 02:07:18 okay, I am wrong Nov 22 02:07:21 args length is 2 Nov 22 02:07:49 I was observing incorrect behavior because of the re-used var name that matched a previously declared global Nov 22 02:11:28 oh good, because mojo is just using apply internally to pass arguments from pushScene to _prepareNewScene to Mojo.Controller.SceneController.initialize to your scene assistant Nov 22 02:12:11 it does practically nothing with the extra arguments Nov 22 02:14:37 * ElVox is spending way too much time reading Mojo code Nov 22 02:22:12 Hi ho ... done with Honey Do's for the day, donewith shopping for the day. Ready to sit back and geek for a while. Nov 22 02:23:47 Rick_work: cool, I just sent you an email Nov 22 02:23:49 TMI Nov 22 02:23:54 ;) Nov 22 02:23:55 k Nov 22 02:27:48 Rick_work: did you get my email? Nov 22 02:28:05 kesne yes Nov 22 02:28:22 and? Nov 22 02:29:01 of course Nov 22 02:29:24 * haeffb_ is feeling left out...wants to send Rick_work an email... Nov 22 02:29:41 haeffb_: are you a developer? Nov 22 02:29:47 haeffb_ feel free. What are your particular interests? Nov 22 02:29:53 Rick is something of a generalist. Nov 22 02:30:03 beer, at the moment Nov 22 02:30:05 and a semi-professional smart ass know it all. Nov 22 02:30:10 working on a pot of chili Nov 22 02:30:16 ahhhh... Beer. Nov 22 02:30:22 kesne: hobbyist. Nov 22 02:30:35 Beer I know a little about, but mostly third hand. Chili I know a LOT about and have strong opinions Nov 22 02:30:37 haeffb_: ever done catalog work? Nov 22 02:30:50 catalog work? Nov 22 02:31:07 Uh, for the app catalog Nov 22 02:31:24 I had my first app published last night. Nov 22 02:31:26 Rick_work: I'll keep you in touch then. I'm hopeing palm follows through Nov 22 02:31:34 TaskAdder Nov 22 02:31:35 haeffb_: What types of apps do you develop? Nov 22 02:31:37 * sugardave perks up. Nov 22 02:31:40 also wrote Agenda Nov 22 02:31:44 what are you talking about, kesne? Nov 22 02:31:48 any entertainment games? Nov 22 02:31:54 sugardave: top secret stuff Nov 22 02:32:01 oh, meth Nov 22 02:32:04 sugardave: developers eyes only Nov 22 02:32:17 * sugardave points at Mind Master. Nov 22 02:32:20 nope. I'm all business. Nov 22 02:32:21 sugardave: no actually, suprisingly not meth Nov 22 02:32:38 not only is sugardave a dev, he's a GAME dev Nov 22 02:32:38 haeffb_: aye then this event isnt for you Nov 22 02:32:44 but Agenda can't be in the catalog Nov 22 02:32:45 srsly? Nov 22 02:32:53 GoML Software Nov 22 02:32:53 sugardave: so you're a GAME dev? Nov 22 02:32:55 hehe Nov 22 02:33:02 sugardave: catalog apps? Nov 22 02:33:05 technically, I am now :D Nov 22 02:33:06 yep Nov 22 02:33:36 Ok i messageed you Nov 22 02:33:54 Rick_work: I got gabico in this, that was my goal Nov 22 02:33:54 lol Nov 22 02:33:59 No I need to talk to joe Nov 22 02:34:14 *now Nov 22 02:34:26 * haeffb_ feels left out once again Nov 22 02:34:26 ahh this about your game framework kesne? :P Nov 22 02:34:39 Nope, not at all Nov 22 02:34:44 Not Keen Studios related Nov 22 02:34:46 * ElVox starts a picket line with haeffb_ Nov 22 02:34:47 webos community related Nov 22 02:35:19 * haeffb_ considers writing business games Nov 22 02:35:38 haeffb_: Lol, it's for entertainment and game developers Nov 22 02:35:42 or people that might want to Nov 22 02:36:09 And if we're lucky, we'll get special treatment from palm Nov 22 02:36:14 my next projects will probably be games since it seems that is where all the easy money is :D Nov 22 02:36:22 haeffb_ trust me, games are a tiny part of my life. My lead programmer and I have spent the last two months writing a serious business webos app. Nov 22 02:36:38 God knows the money isn't going to be easy. Nov 22 02:36:42 but it ought to be good. Nov 22 02:36:49 It isnt eady money, that's a joke Nov 22 02:37:14 It isnt even that good Nov 22 02:37:20 I mean Nov 22 02:37:36 Perfect Bounce took like a week to make, made me $1000 so far okay? Nov 22 02:37:46 Checkers Pro, months to make, less than $400 Nov 22 02:38:12 Pixi will change that Nov 22 02:38:23 It didnt Nov 22 02:38:26 that's the funny thing Nov 22 02:38:49 it boosted Perfect Bounce sales, because I cheated by pushing a meta update at the launch to put it on top, heh Nov 22 02:39:56 Pixi only been available for a week. Give it time Nov 22 02:40:58 Rick_work: isn't doing integer math in javascript fun? Nov 22 02:42:15 doing integer math is javascript is totally simple. Nov 22 02:42:16 Oh, I have a pixi Nov 22 02:42:18 anyone else? Nov 22 02:42:37 you just do EVERYTHING in integer pennies, and then divide by 100 when it's time to display. Nov 22 02:42:46 kesne: Want to join my beta tester program? Nov 22 02:43:06 reality9110: sure thing, email me jordangens@gmail.com Nov 22 02:43:21 just keep everything around as rational numbers Nov 22 02:43:21 Alright. Let me build this last thing first. Nov 22 02:43:45 copy me too doc, please? Nov 22 02:43:48 My wife's pixi will be here in a couple of days from Amazon. Currently sitting in a warehouse in Campbell, KY, according to UPS tracker. Nov 22 02:43:59 Rick_work: Sure thing **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 22 02:51:54 2009 Nov 22 02:51:56 Rick_work! send me the pixi peg Nov 22 02:52:02 no, you have to use MAMStart instead of pushScene Nov 22 02:52:15 well, what you sent me doesn't do that. Nov 22 02:52:21 but MAMStart is included in the .js referenced in index.html Nov 22 02:52:26 ok Nov 22 02:52:47 so instead of this.controller.pushScene('main', game); Nov 22 02:52:56 I do MAMStart('main', game); Nov 22 02:53:01 * haeffb_ got my first review on app catalog Nov 22 02:53:02 exactly Nov 22 02:53:09 did I send you the wrong ipk? Nov 22 02:53:11 haeffb_ congrats on that. Nov 22 02:53:17 not as cool as sugardave's, though Nov 22 02:53:18 haeffb_: congrats Nov 22 02:53:21 did they hate it? Nov 22 02:53:21 haha Nov 22 02:53:27 4 stars Nov 22 02:53:45 sugardave, I do NOT have a MAMEStart, I have a pushscene in what you sent Nov 22 02:53:59 woulda been five, but it didn't do what they wanted it to do. Nov 22 02:54:01 crap, let me re-send Nov 22 02:54:12 or just change yours Nov 22 02:54:16 and see if it works...it should Nov 22 02:54:57 MAMStart or MAM.Start? Nov 22 02:55:26 MAMStart Nov 22 02:56:32 ok, I got a mind-master add. Nov 22 02:56:36 sweet Nov 22 02:56:38 now what do I do? Nov 22 02:56:42 next ad should be your test ads Nov 22 02:56:52 well, this is all it does at the moment Nov 22 02:56:55 what do I have to do to get them.... Nov 22 02:56:59 the test ads? Nov 22 02:57:02 shows an ad for 8 seconds, then rotates Nov 22 02:57:04 just wait Nov 22 02:57:14 in about 45 seconds you should get another one Nov 22 02:57:36 since I'm gathering stats, sometimes it takes a little longer than 45 seconds Nov 22 02:57:37 ok Nov 22 02:57:38 that works Nov 22 02:57:42 cool Nov 22 02:57:43 I worry on the pixi about ads. The ads will partially cover the board. Nov 22 02:57:52 so, what do we do to make it no a TEST ad.... Nov 22 02:57:54 Maybe I will hide the score with it. Nov 22 02:58:19 Yep, they'll cover the SPIN button on dreidel. Nov 22 02:58:37 change MAM.client.contactParms.test = 0; Nov 22 02:59:32 ok Nov 22 02:59:36 the plan, of course, will be to enable customized placement, rotation intervals, etc. Nov 22 02:59:47 I also have AdMob text ads ready **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Nov 22 02:59:57 2009