**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 30 02:59:58 2009 Nov 30 03:02:02 hi all! Nov 30 03:02:24 hi JenP Nov 30 03:02:35 hey Bmyers how are you? Nov 30 03:02:47 whats the correct format to create a class Nov 30 03:02:47 ? Nov 30 03:02:50 good good.. Nov 30 03:02:56 and U? Nov 30 03:03:02 hi atlanta! Nov 30 03:03:09 i'm very good thank you... Nov 30 03:03:20 hey JenP Nov 30 03:03:20 don't want to go back to work... Nov 30 03:03:49 JenP don't go back Nov 30 03:03:57 Go full time consultant. :-) Nov 30 03:04:02 lol i wish i didn't have to ...hello Rick Nov 30 03:04:02 got it Nov 30 03:04:10 Hello Max Nov 30 03:04:11 NoooOOOOoo way too much drama in consulting Nov 30 03:04:24 aaaaawwwwww Nov 30 03:04:27 dear god I'm still dealing with that other client' Nov 30 03:04:35 ahhh Nov 30 03:04:38 well, there you are. Nov 30 03:05:12 worst part is i really feel for these guys...and I want to help them out. Nov 30 03:05:24 so, what are they offering now? Nov 30 03:05:32 but there's always something else Nov 30 03:05:48 5K extra crisis managment bonus Nov 30 03:05:48 your starting data format sucked as I recall? Nov 30 03:05:57 oh it was bad...is bad Nov 30 03:05:57 Starting to be hard to turn down Nov 30 03:06:10 yes it is. Nov 30 03:06:51 i think the problem is the other consultant that burned them Nov 30 03:07:01 they seem to think I'm a friend of hers. Nov 30 03:07:05 ahhh Nov 30 03:07:14 so they go back and forth on how they treat me. Nov 30 03:07:44 written guarantee of work being acceptable? Neutral third party to decide if contract fulfilled Nov 30 03:08:05 so i don't know if the moneys worth the beat up Nov 30 03:08:18 problem is...they don't know what they want...just that they want it Nov 30 03:08:33 i've offered daily reviews so we can make sure it's on target Nov 30 03:08:58 did you forget about making the index.html for vocshopgames.com/snowglobe so that people going there from the review have something to see other than a bare INDEX page, perhaps a link to webosquick install as well as a link to the IPK Nov 30 03:08:59 ??? Nov 30 03:09:19 no i did make something Nov 30 03:09:21 hold on Nov 30 03:09:24 uh Nov 30 03:09:31 there's nothing in that folder. Nov 30 03:09:35 other than the ipk Nov 30 03:10:07 Rick: Great job on the presentation at the open dev conference Nov 30 03:10:18 ice-11 thank you Nov 30 03:10:18 Rick_work: ping Nov 30 03:10:24 ah crap...one sec Nov 30 03:10:26 np :) Nov 30 03:11:07 ice-11 I grade it as a "B". Too many Uhms, and my business partner was upset that my shirt was partly untucked. :--) Nov 30 03:11:22 lol Nov 30 03:11:36 lol Nov 30 03:11:41 WAY too many uhms. My children made serious fun of me. Nov 30 03:11:46 Rick_work: Hahahaha, I hardly noticed the Uhms. Who cares about your shirt? :p Nov 30 03:11:48 lol Nov 30 03:12:08 I didn't notice the ums OR the shirt Nov 30 03:12:10 So, uh Dad, Uh, what uh, are you uh, going to uh talk uh bout next uh time? :) Nov 30 03:12:15 lol Nov 30 03:12:28 but then again I'm a developer... i don't tend to care about those things :p Nov 30 03:12:45 now i'm listening for ums Nov 30 03:12:46 lol Nov 30 03:12:57 there we go, um um Nov 30 03:12:58 lol Nov 30 03:12:59 where at? Nov 30 03:13:08 41:30 or so Nov 30 03:13:12 but who cares? Nov 30 03:13:12 why do i get inspired and motivated just before bed time.. i hate getting up at 4am Nov 30 03:13:13 Hehehe I judge competative speech. So, when I listen to it, I hear it with a judges ear. Nov 30 03:13:26 BMyers there's all through it, about every minute. Nov 30 03:13:32 dawm: because that's when most ideas flow :) Nov 30 03:13:34 sometimes, every few seconds. :-) Nov 30 03:14:04 dawm because as you're tired, your mind is letting go of the fixed ideas of the day. Nov 30 03:14:08 well im not tired or anything, but i usually goto bed around 10, but usually when 10 rolls around i feel the need to do something Nov 30 03:14:10 url i mean Nov 30 03:14:30 BMyers are you on a windows machine? Nov 30 03:14:42 yes Nov 30 03:14:47 Rick_work: Ah. That makes sense. After taking taekwondo for a couple years, I started auditing everyone as well as noticing technique in action movies Nov 30 03:15:53 exactly. And my daughter was state champ in Original Oratory, and my son was state champ in Humerous interp. I judge policy debate, extemp and Oratory. Nov 30 03:15:58 Rick_work: Cool, I didn't know that java services weren't supported by the community... not that I would bother with java services... once I'm done my last round of projects, I'll be building a C++ service Nov 30 03:16:02 So, the presentation is a "B" Nov 30 03:16:11 hahaha Nov 30 03:16:18 supported by Palm*** Nov 30 03:16:19 sorry Nov 30 03:16:26 ice-11 java services ARE supported by the community, but not by palm YET> Nov 30 03:16:35 I'm listening to you talk at the same time as talking to you here... Nov 30 03:16:37 Binary sdk IS coming from Palm. But they're not ready yet. Nov 30 03:16:44 ahhh Nov 30 03:17:02 well I wouldn't be too surprised. libstdc++ is there. Nov 30 03:17:11 the whole system has a *lot* of potential Nov 30 03:18:27 Ah. I was under the impression that palm was not focusing on native development for the foreseeable future. Nov 30 03:18:29 BMyers link to silverlight version http://2md.hosted.panopto.com/CourseCast/Viewer/Default.aspx?id=1a963c25-6050-46c3-a0ea-e09242b2e3e2 Nov 30 03:18:41 Rick_work: you mean moonlight version? ;) Nov 30 03:18:45 Eww silverlight... Had to run firefox for that Nov 30 03:18:54 bmyers link to wmv of video only http://68.142.93.92/a2725/e1/sessions/8fd3135d-9d09-4220-baf4-a723306e0a1e/db5f1e34-451d-4df7-8fd5-790cc3060ae2-3bdb446d-f214-46fd-af14-2a84d1b67199.wmv?InvocationID=90c2e732-99dc-de11-849d-001c23d18529&StreamID=db5f1e34-451d-4df7-8fd5-790cc3060ae2&ServerName=2md.hosted.panopto.com&MSWMExt=.asf Nov 30 03:18:55 zsoc: Exactly! :p Nov 30 03:18:59 hey zsoc Nov 30 03:19:01 zsoc works fine in moonlight 2 Nov 30 03:19:12 ice-11: yo Nov 30 03:19:15 yea I just watched it with moonlight Nov 30 03:19:59 Hmm... Rick_work,zsoc: Do Palm employees have operator status in this channel when they come by? Nov 30 03:20:05 ice-11: nah Nov 30 03:20:14 ice-11: on a need to know basis ;) Nov 30 03:20:29 and right now, I don't need to know :p Nov 30 03:20:34 lol Nov 30 03:21:09 ice-11 SOME palm employees can grab op status SOMETIMES. Nov 30 03:22:41 sure, if they registered with the chanserv and/or started the channel i think; I haven't been heavily into IRC since high school. Nov 30 03:23:15 ice-11 I am not heavily into IRC but do you know a BETTER real-time-chatroom solution for an international multi-platform development team? Nov 30 03:23:25 heck no Nov 30 03:23:42 hmm Nov 30 03:23:48 Rick_work: IRC started world-wide chat :) I'm sure you're familiar with the history. IRC came first! Nov 30 03:23:54 better? yes. cheaper? no. Nov 30 03:24:14 well considering this is free lol Nov 30 03:24:14 nonlocal example???? Nov 30 03:25:52 lol Nov 30 03:26:00 his answer: netsplit Nov 30 03:26:55 hehehehehe Nov 30 03:28:53 :p Nov 30 03:29:00 um.. Nov 30 03:29:43 hmm... so native SDK coming soon... They better hurry. The N900 looks to be a direct competitor. And it already has all that, **including** a freakin GPU driver hehe. For the same GPU! Nov 30 03:30:01 *sigh* Nov 30 03:31:57 the problem is, the gpu driver a) kills battery life, Nov 30 03:32:03 b) causes the phone to get very hot Nov 30 03:32:17 u mean the battery life gets worse? Nov 30 03:32:21 and c) has to be custom integrated with Mojo, instead of some existing GUI. Nov 30 03:32:26 all that times time. Nov 30 03:33:01 BMyers if you turn on GPU battery life gets worse Nov 30 03:33:17 you can't flip transisters on and off without eating amp-hours can you? Nov 30 03:33:31 was kidding. its pretty bad already Nov 30 03:34:02 yep Nov 30 03:34:13 but unless you have a magic solution what cha going to do? Nov 30 03:34:39 Hahaha, yes: projects like Maemo have a large advantage. Nov 30 03:34:46 all out of magic dust.. Nov 30 03:34:50 Rick_work: All very good points Nov 30 03:34:56 its on my list tho.. Nov 30 03:35:42 Palm ha a team working on it. Nov 30 03:35:53 But one of the major issues is modulating power on and off for the GPU. Nov 30 03:36:13 i hope so. Nov 30 03:36:19 ah. yes, of course Nov 30 03:36:36 I thought the Smartflex chip handles tasks like that? Nov 30 03:36:44 which is off by default heh Nov 30 03:37:42 I only read up on it briefly, but smartflex is supposed to regulate voltage on the device "intelligently" Nov 30 03:37:57 in a nutshell... but you probably know that, and more :p Nov 30 03:39:20 ice-11 the issue is, that that chip isn't really smart ENOUGH Nov 30 03:39:42 the OS has to decide if a particular rendering is high enough priority to "waste" engery on the GPU for. Nov 30 03:42:00 I see. Yea, that's a lot of work from the ground up. I hope they do it *right*.... Nov 30 03:42:09 webOS is pretty damn good so far :) Nov 30 03:44:30 but it has a long way to go :) Nov 30 03:44:37 anyway, 8am class. Must sleep! Nov 30 03:44:40 gnite all Nov 30 03:44:56 night Nov 30 03:45:12 again, great job. Thanks for speaking on our behalf. Nov 30 03:45:15 cya Nov 30 03:57:00 made it to the q&a section Nov 30 04:08:39 BMyers whatcha think? Nov 30 04:08:50 few minutes left.. Nov 30 04:09:59 interesting. Nov 30 04:20:39 Rick_work: what do you think of the new Keen Studios holiday theme? http://keen-studios.net Nov 30 04:23:08 nice Nov 30 04:26:00 You really like it? Nov 30 04:28:23 Rick_work: would you be interested in helping me with some new apps? Nov 30 04:39:36 kesne I would consider it Nov 30 04:54:42 How's everyone tonight? Nov 30 04:55:18 Roy-Pre101: brain hurts, tired, etc ;) Nov 30 04:55:31 Join the club. Nov 30 04:55:53 Roy-Pre101 brain hurts, going to sleep and need to spend this week working on pre-webos clients stuff Nov 30 04:56:45 Rick_work: Sympaties. Same, I think. Nov 30 05:02:53 Rick_work: you leaving us? Nov 30 05:04:36 kesne I have to spend 3 or 4 days making a living Nov 30 05:04:48 Ah Nov 30 05:04:52 Well have a good night Nov 30 05:04:56 Shame that, eh? Nov 30 05:10:53 shame Nov 30 05:10:59 but what are you going to do? Nov 30 05:11:03 I gotta eat Nov 30 05:13:55 * Rick_work off to bed Nov 30 05:14:03 night Rick Nov 30 05:25:18 Anyone here got experience with CSS transitions? Nov 30 05:25:22 er Nov 30 05:25:25 translations Nov 30 05:25:52 Like English to Spanish? That'd be great if you could do it with a stylsheet! Nov 30 05:26:20 Trying to do a css animation? Nov 30 05:26:48 Yeah Nov 30 05:26:54 Checkers Pro already uses one Nov 30 05:26:59 but I'm trying to add more Nov 30 05:27:04 and it glitches sometimes Nov 30 05:27:16 It'll move and then jump back and then keep moving Nov 30 05:30:45 Did you read the article on pre101 about css? Nov 30 05:36:04 no Nov 30 05:36:05 link? Nov 30 05:36:32 Roy-Pre101: Also: do you know how to create a sleep efect in JS? Like, where the script pauses? Nov 30 05:36:54 setTimeout Nov 30 05:37:11 Won't work Nov 30 05:37:16 I need to do it in a loop Nov 30 05:37:35 http://pre101.com/blog/2009/11/10/a-guide-to-css-transitions-in-webos/ Nov 30 05:37:36 To pause before the next time around the loop starts Nov 30 05:37:47 ... setTimeout back to itself. Nov 30 05:40:31 That wouldnt work in a loop Nov 30 05:40:39 in a .each loop Nov 30 05:47:36 Restructure. Nov 30 05:50:41 how so? Nov 30 05:55:16 Figure out another way to do it so you can have it call back to each step. Nov 30 06:02:10 Does anyone know anything about Ares? Is there any way to join the Alpha? Nov 30 06:05:48 Check out the webOSdev Forum. There might be something there. Nov 30 06:06:39 I've been looking but info is... lacking. I did find the alpha site, but there are no signup instructions. Nov 30 06:07:57 well no instructions whatsoever. Nov 30 06:08:03 wonko6x9: It isnt public yet Nov 30 06:08:08 So nobody can just use it Nov 30 06:09:07 understood. Just looking to see if there is a way to get in early Nov 30 06:11:04 wonko6x9: You found the alpha site? Better than I've done. Link? Nov 30 06:11:53 not particularly cryptic. http://ares.palm.com/Ares/login.html Nov 30 06:14:05 No way to get in early Nov 30 06:14:19 * kesne is sleeping, see you all in the morn. Nov 30 06:17:45 wonko6x9: Thanks Nov 30 08:17:34 any way to capture radio signals using the API? Nov 30 09:32:15 good morning Nov 30 09:51:16 morning :) Nov 30 09:51:32 morning Nov 30 12:27:40 hmm Nov 30 12:27:59 why could responseText be "null" after an ajax call? Nov 30 12:29:29 but statusText is "OK" Nov 30 12:57:49 swisstomcat: You sure it is null? Nov 30 12:58:17 zomg: typeof tells me it's a string Nov 30 12:58:22 then it's not null Nov 30 12:58:44 typeof null is 'object', as weird as it sounds =) Nov 30 12:59:23 hrmm Nov 30 12:59:28 well, something is strange Nov 30 12:59:51 Mojo.Log.error("rt: "+typeof(transport.responseText)); Nov 30 12:59:51 Mojo.Log.error("rt: %s",transport.responseText); Nov 30 12:59:58 output: Nov 30 13:00:03 error: rt: string Nov 30 13:00:06 error: null Nov 30 13:00:14 Possibly a bug in Mojo.Log Nov 30 13:00:20 :/ Nov 30 13:00:21 It's most likely an empty string Nov 30 13:00:29 Try logging transport.responseText === '' Nov 30 13:00:43 with three = it compares the type of the variable too Nov 30 13:02:17 error: rt: false Nov 30 13:02:19 so it's not an empty string Nov 30 13:02:41 *headscratch* Nov 30 13:05:39 interesting Nov 30 13:05:51 transport.responseText.length is 953 Nov 30 13:07:46 yup Nov 30 13:07:51 there's something coming back Nov 30 13:13:17 swisstomcat: wow that is pretty weird o_O Is there anything in responseXML? Nov 30 13:13:36 no Nov 30 13:14:03 content-type is text/html Nov 30 13:14:39 if i do a $('result').innerHTML=HTMLString; i can see the stuff that's coming back **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 30 13:17:42 2009 Nov 30 13:41:56 mojo log has an 500 character limit Nov 30 13:42:00 perhaps 600 Nov 30 13:42:06 so your 953 isn't logable Nov 30 14:00:11 rick: ah, that makes sense Nov 30 14:02:49 another question for the more experienced developers Nov 30 14:02:56 in terms on application flow Nov 30 14:03:40 the second scene does an ajax call to a website to get a session id first Nov 30 14:03:54 then it uses that session id to make another ajax call with parameters Nov 30 14:04:05 the first ajax call is in activate Nov 30 14:04:30 where or who should call the second request? Nov 30 14:05:52 right now the second call is in the onsucess callback of the first call ... Nov 30 14:06:00 not sure if that's a good idea Nov 30 14:20:18 swisstomcat: That's the recommended way. Nov 30 14:22:51 oh :) Nov 30 15:04:45 Hi, I need some help with Ajax-Requests and Cookies! Nov 30 15:06:51 When I execute an Ajax.Request the first time, I get back a "Set-Cookie"-Header field containing the cookie. For each subsequent call with the same request I won't get that cookie again. Nov 30 15:07:00 Is this expected behaviour? Nov 30 15:07:22 Does the Runtime-Environment handle taht cookie anyhow? Nov 30 15:21:10 chris______: I believe the answer is that the cookie is handled automatically Nov 30 15:24:34 Hmm, is using the Ajax.Request() methology the right way to access some WebService? Nov 30 15:26:38 Most likely. Nov 30 15:27:30 yup Nov 30 15:27:39 just did that today Nov 30 15:28:16 and then parse the output, either text,html,xml or json Nov 30 15:34:08 yep Nov 30 15:37:22 I just have some problems with the cookies: When I perform the first request, the server-response contains a cookie. When I ignore this cookie (as I suppose the environment handles it for me) and perform a second (different) request, I receive a response telling me that I should turn on Cookies! :-( Nov 30 15:38:03 When I execute the first request again, the server-response does not contain the cookie anymore! Nov 30 15:38:35 If I try to find the cookie in my document by using document.cookie I get a undefined. Nov 30 15:45:13 hmm Nov 30 15:45:13 Check out the webOSdev forum. There was something about cookies persisting oddly. Nov 30 15:49:31 I am trying to include a folder under app called 'models' which will have some js code which I can use in controllers.in sources.json, should adding {"source": "app\/models\/helper.js"} do? Nov 30 15:52:08 yup Nov 30 16:06:49 chris______: are you doing ajax requests? Nov 30 16:13:57 swisstomcat: was that at me? Nov 30 16:15:27 ivshankar: yes Nov 30 16:30:04 Hi Nov 30 16:30:25 Is there here somebody from palm ? Nov 30 16:31:38 chuq usually hangs around here, but he does not appear to be here right now. I assume that he hasn't gotten into the office yet. Nov 30 16:31:48 ok, thank Nov 30 16:31:49 What is the question Nov 30 16:32:07 neither is Adora Nov 30 16:32:13 if its a development question it is likely that someone here can help Nov 30 16:32:14 and im not sure who else is from palm Nov 30 16:32:18 I have submit my app by email to the catalog Nov 30 16:32:31 and I want to have some feedback. Nov 30 16:32:35 Roy-Pre101: got a wiki page for palm employees on the wiki yet? Nov 30 16:32:45 OK - when did you do it, usually it takes about 2 weeks Nov 30 16:32:57 12 days Nov 30 16:33:01 ok Nov 30 16:33:13 yeah when you see them come on its chuqui Nov 30 16:33:23 or adora Nov 30 16:33:35 ok, thanks Nov 30 16:34:30 Is he the only one to work at palm ? Nov 30 16:35:40 Traveler3: chuq and adora work for palm. i believe there are a few others but dont remember Nov 30 16:35:53 ok Nov 30 16:36:50 Speaking of the devil Nov 30 16:37:03 Hi chuqui ! Nov 30 16:37:15 chuqui: Traveler3 has a question that you might be able to help him with. Nov 30 16:37:24 him/her Nov 30 16:37:27 morning! Nov 30 16:37:27 dkirker: chuqui is the devil? Nov 30 16:37:34 (him) Nov 30 16:37:38 chuqui: can i sell you my soul for immortality? Nov 30 16:37:42 Traveler3: sorry about that Nov 30 16:37:45 nah, I gave up satan worship years ago Nov 30 16:37:53 I have submit two apps about 12 days ago. Nov 30 16:38:07 Is it possible to know where are they in the process ? Nov 30 16:38:07 chuqui: aw, too bad Nov 30 16:38:44 pay is decent, but the long-term benefits suck Nov 30 16:39:05 ? Nov 30 16:39:24 chuqui: really? i wouldve though the opposite Nov 30 16:39:53 great long term benefits, no pay Nov 30 16:40:04 Traveler3: I think he was referring to the satan worship ;) Nov 30 16:40:29 lol Nov 30 16:40:31 lol, ok ;) Nov 30 16:41:48 okay, so what was the question again? Other than "sleeping in lava" being kinda a bad long term benefit? Nov 30 16:42:14 chuqui: Traveler3 was asking about his app approval status or something like that Nov 30 16:42:26 I have submitted two apps about 12 days ago. Nov 30 16:42:33 yeah. Nov 30 16:42:53 Do you have receive it ? Nov 30 16:43:14 the name of the first app is VoipBuster SMS Nov 30 16:43:55 Do you have receive it -> Did you receive it Nov 30 16:45:03 yes. we have it. I sent it off to the business team to start processing on the 18th. It's in the queue, but with the holidays things are still being worked on. Nov 30 16:46:20 ok, great. When will it be in the app catalog ? Nov 30 16:46:21 :D Nov 30 16:46:52 Good Morning Chuqui Nov 30 16:46:58 I dunno.... Nov 30 16:47:08 Hi...I'm having trouble with Audio objects on the Pixi. It seems that on the Pre, I can play more than one Audio object at a time, but I can't on the Pixi. has anyone else seen that, or is anyone aware of a solution? Nov 30 16:47:26 ok, thanks. Nov 30 16:47:28 next step is for a business person to contact you and get the process going; once that happens, things tend to move fast. Nov 30 16:47:41 ok. Nov 30 16:51:46 Chuq, I have added you on linkedin ;) Nov 30 16:52:05 cool~ I'll reject you. Nov 30 16:52:18 lol Nov 30 16:52:58 So, the precorder folks think they came up with a clever hack that might resolve the viewfinder problem. They'll know late tonight Nov 30 17:02:12 rick_work - cool Nov 30 17:09:52 hello Nov 30 17:11:40 is there a way to get the original target or value for the model from a view menu? Nov 30 17:18:26 chuqui: Happy Monday (and belated Thanksgiving) Nov 30 17:18:40 happy monday after thanksgiving, Roy! Nov 30 17:21:57 For those interested in Ella: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/29/arts/music/29ella.html?_r=1&th&emc=th Nov 30 17:25:28 all I seem to get in the event frm the viewmenu is the cmd. but I generate the menu from sql. Nov 30 17:26:09 so it the same cmd. but I need to know what was tapped Nov 30 17:28:28 event.original.Event is undefined Nov 30 17:29:02 event.originalEvent without the dot? Nov 30 17:29:03 srcElement is undefined Nov 30 17:29:56 Dremel, What do you mean by view menu? A command menu, an app menu or something else? Nov 30 17:29:57 yes. extra dot there.. Nov 30 17:30:03 undefined without the dot Nov 30 17:31:13 other. its called a view menu Nov 30 17:31:41 its supposed to float at the top of the page as opposed to the bottom Nov 30 17:32:44 like commandmenu Nov 30 17:32:45 Dremel can you post the code you're using to create and instantiate it at webos.pastebin.com ? Nov 30 17:33:47 I can't actually, my net connect is down. I only can wirc.. Nov 30 17:34:02 that's a problem then. Nov 30 17:34:07 I don't have tether. Nov 30 17:34:53 its like cmdmenu but floats at the top of the page Nov 30 17:35:03 Ok, so you're generating the menu from a query , and you're the model of the menu has a series of "commands" that get triggered when you choose them Nov 30 17:35:15 so does each menu item set a unique command from your sql? Nov 30 17:35:17 the menu and cmd fires Nov 30 17:35:25 got that. Nov 30 17:35:31 same cmd Nov 30 17:35:41 Ahhh, well, that's your problem Nov 30 17:36:00 each menu item needs to have a unique command and then your handle command needs to PARSE THAT Nov 30 17:36:10 even if it's just "item1" and "item2" Nov 30 17:36:27 you aren't going to GET the underlying event any more than you can get it from a command menu Nov 30 17:36:38 the menu handler does an event propagation stop Nov 30 17:38:23 well that's a pain.. Nov 30 17:38:44 I call stopprop in the scenes handlecmd Nov 30 17:39:12 it's not THAT bad, you're already generating the menu, just generate a unique command, you're generating a unique LABEL.... What's the big deal? Nov 30 17:39:35 parsing the cmd Nov 30 17:39:58 substring the cmd string I guess huh? Nov 30 17:40:01 this is harder than parsing the orgininating element of the menu????? Nov 30 17:40:09 !!???!! Nov 30 17:40:20 you could substring the cmd string, Nov 30 17:40:46 hello...wha tis the best way to parse an big XML file (~6MB)? Atm I use an Ajax.Request but on the Pre the big xml files will not be parsed. Nov 30 17:40:49 or if you just want to know which menu ELEMENT was clicked, you could make the command the same as the label. :-) Nov 30 17:40:53 its all relative Nov 30 17:41:19 zefanjas what are you doing with the big xml file? Nov 30 17:42:17 Rick_work, I parse the files to import them in a sqlite DB Nov 30 17:42:59 I don't know what the label might be. its dynamic. Nov 30 17:42:59 the handlecmd would need to know. Nov 30 17:43:47 Dremel, if you were parsing the origninating event you would get a tap and a div, and the handlecommand would need to know what the div ID ment. Up to you, but this does NOT seem harder. :-) Nov 30 17:44:32 zefanjas what is the source of the XML? a sql database you're downloading into the Pre? Nov 30 17:44:52 I give it a whack Rick. thx. Nov 30 17:45:24 I thought I saw the news app in the book doing something similar Nov 30 17:46:36 Dremel: I don't think there's anything on webos101.com on he view menu. Maybe you can add something to the menu section. Nov 30 17:46:51 s/on he/on the/ Nov 30 17:47:57 Rick_work, no...the data I want to use is originally a XML. But I need the data in a DB for better access Nov 30 17:48:18 Roy-Pre101: can't say that I am qualified to since I can't get it to do what I want Nov 30 17:48:49 zefanjas so your source is one giant xml document, you have no control over what's handed to you, you just get the six meg dump? Ok, that can be dealt with Nov 30 17:49:11 ooh. nice touch in wirc to auto complete names.. Nov 30 17:50:00 Dremel: How do you autocomplete names in wirc? Nov 30 17:50:10 Also: When you -do- get it to work you -will- be qualified. Nov 30 17:50:41 Something is better than nothing and people can improve upon it. Nov 30 17:52:59