**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 06 02:59:58 2009 Dec 06 03:04:42 Bmyers: getting close? Dec 06 03:06:15 what app you makin? If you don't mind me asking... Dec 06 03:10:46 I am really liking the Lexus LF-Ch concept Dec 06 03:13:05 Too bad it wouldn't come out until 2012 Dec 06 03:20:35 i am writing a biz app Dec 06 03:20:39 lots o sql Dec 06 03:21:17 getting closer. at some point i have to stop adding features and ship this sucka Dec 06 03:21:37 I was at the mall, too. Fortunately we had snow today so some people stayed home Dec 06 03:23:10 Roy-Pre101: i think it snowed everywhere Dec 06 03:23:34 no snow here Dec 06 03:23:41 zsoc: What's the state of the recorder now? I haven't checked in a while. Dec 06 03:23:55 Roy-Pre101: working on native service, will add about 10 useful apis :) Dec 06 03:24:10 the service now is really broken and silly Dec 06 03:24:38 We were hoping for snow, but never got it. :( Dec 06 03:24:48 None here either Dec 06 03:25:28 On Thursday, they were saying we had a 70% chance of snow in San Antonio on Friday. Friday comes and it's suddenly a 10% chance. Dec 06 03:26:52 whew.. got the boot Dec 06 03:32:17 I have my new Palm Pre! Dec 06 03:33:06 First chance playing with one? Dec 06 03:33:27 yeah. :) Though I've seen videos of it in action Dec 06 03:34:23 Cool. Enjoying it so far, or just fresh outta the wrapper so you can't tell yet? :) Dec 06 03:34:55 I'm enjoying it a lot, though now I'm busy charging it so I have to resist the temptation to play with it a lot so it'll charge. Dec 06 03:35:12 Oh, minor details, things like having power. Dec 06 03:35:15 it's a big upgrade from a Centro. Dec 06 03:35:37 EdLin: Yes, I'd think so Dec 06 03:35:40 I'm getting a touchstone via UPS tomorrow. Dec 06 03:35:46 Indeed. Takes a little bit of time to shift your mindset, but hopefully you'll like it. Dec 06 03:36:01 Touchstone is well worth it; I hate trying to open that stupid port. Dec 06 03:36:06 I do like it, the calendar is a bit of a step down from Datebk6. Dec 06 03:36:17 but other than that it's superior in every way. Dec 06 03:36:28 By the way, if you haven't figured it out, it's a lot easier to open the port if you open the slider first. You can get a fingernail behind the door then. Dec 06 03:36:39 yeah. I figured that out. Dec 06 03:36:45 (Never managed to use Datebk4/5/6 to their fullest extent.) Dec 06 03:37:06 I'm not sure if many people have. ;-) Dec 06 03:37:55 I miss the powerful flexible repeat selection, I had to enter 4 different weekly repeating events into the Pre calendar because it doesn't have that. Dec 06 03:38:01 goat rabies Dec 06 03:38:26 If you're syncing to something like Google Calendar, you could enter the repeats from that interface and just let the Pre learn from it. Dec 06 03:38:57 FoxFireX: yeah, but I don't know if Google Calendar is much better, other than being able to input from a computer. Dec 06 03:39:16 Well, I know you can set up weekly events on multiple days of the week. Dec 06 03:39:30 oh, OK, then it is better. Dec 06 03:40:03 I'll have to get used to google calendar then, I haven't really used it other than to sync from iCal before I got my Pre. Dec 06 03:41:04 any app recommendations? Dec 06 03:41:26 Depends on what you're looking to do. Although if you're looking games, my top pick at the moment is Topple Ball. Dec 06 03:41:56 not too much into games, but I'll try to remember that one. Dec 06 03:42:24 is tweed the best twitter app? Worth the money? Dec 06 03:42:31 * haeffb_ uses tweed Dec 06 03:42:33 theres like 80 twitter apps Dec 06 03:42:47 dawm: no, not that much last time I looked. Dec 06 03:43:03 Think my wife's using Twee. Dec 06 03:43:09 i like twee when i used it Dec 06 03:43:12 er liked Dec 06 03:43:32 i think i still have it installed, but i rarely tweet so no biggie Dec 06 03:44:19 I've been getting the few Twitter messages I'm interested in delivered by SMS, so I haven't got a client personally. Dec 06 03:44:21 EdLin: Check out Match 'Em. ;) Dec 06 03:44:37 unbiased opinion ^^^ Dec 06 03:44:42 if you're a big calendar user, you might like Agenda Dec 06 03:44:58 also unbiased opinion ^^^ Dec 06 03:46:52 FoxFireX: if I did that I'd get flooded, I get SMS tweets from my sister, because she doesn't tweet much, but I follow various programmers, news sites, technical journalists, on twitter, so I would go crazy if I sms'd all of that. ;-) Dec 06 03:47:26 In the tradition of unbiased opinions, I'll mention there are several options on vehicle mileage trackers, so at least one of them might fit your tastes. Dec 06 03:47:42 FoxFireX: I ride the subway and bus. Dec 06 03:47:42 * FoxFireX is not that big on the twitter. Dec 06 03:47:50 Is there a way to copy and paste from the built in browser? Dec 06 03:47:59 EdLin: There are a few subway apps, too Dec 06 03:48:01 Lucky. Wish we had decent mass transit down here. Dec 06 03:48:07 Although, I'm not certain how useful any of them are. Dec 06 03:48:16 I live in NYC, only good mass transit in the US probably. Dec 06 03:48:33 EdLin: cheers to that Dec 06 03:48:38 Visited Rome and Paris; got very jealous of how easy it was to move around. Dec 06 03:48:54 it's that easy in NYC too, especially in Manhatten. Dec 06 03:49:47 Manhatten is kind of the closest thing there is to Europe in the US, even has most of the languages of Europe and elsewhere spoken there. ;-) Dec 06 03:49:51 Was driving through NYC from CT to PA one evening on a trip, and on a lark decided "Let's go to Central Park." Managed to get in safely, find parking right next to an entrance, and get back out without any big troubles. I was surprised. Dec 06 03:50:19 yeah, parking is worse some other places. Dec 06 03:51:03 I actually live in Brooklyn, can't afford to live in Manhatten. Dec 06 03:51:22 It was confusing, though; there were four or five signs at the spot I parked. None of them indicated I couldn't park there at that moment, so we went for it. ;) Dec 06 03:51:25 Brooklyn has fairly good public transportation too. Dec 06 03:51:32 lol Dec 06 03:51:44 yeah, lots of street cleaning rules Dec 06 03:53:27 EdLin: the 4 to the C is my favourite way back into the heights :D Dec 06 03:53:27 I am surprised when I hear that Sprint has bad customer service, they were real good about activating my Pre, other than a minor misstep. Dec 06 03:53:58 never ride the C much, I'm near the G and a bit further is JMZ Dec 06 03:54:27 sprint is 50%.. sometimes you have no problem.. sometimes your on the phone with them for 2 weeks trying to get a number/phone setup.. Dec 06 03:54:57 switching from sprint to helio then back to sprint was a nightmare.. Dec 06 03:55:08 I wish Sprint allowed verizon phones on their network Dec 06 03:55:28 what happened to verizon allowing any phone on their network (if approved by verizon) Dec 06 03:55:33 reality9110: why? Want to use the Droid instead of a Pre? TRaitor. ;-) Dec 06 03:55:34 i remember reading that atleast a year ago Dec 06 03:55:51 a buddy of mine at work had the driod for 2 days.. he returned it and kept his iphone Dec 06 03:55:53 EdLin: I want the Droid Eris Dec 06 03:56:07 reality9110: it's the same as the HTC Hero on Sprint. Dec 06 03:56:14 Except it's a lot better looking Dec 06 03:56:15 the pre doesnt have a video recorder (yet) but i crashed the driod one the first time i played with it Dec 06 03:56:29 HTC Hero = Droid Eris with a proximity censor. Dec 06 03:56:33 The Samsung Moment technically has the fastest processor. Dec 06 03:56:40 I've been really fortunate with Sprint. Had an issue a few months before the Pre where my wife had 300 SMS over. Her plan allowed for 300 SMS, so I figured it must have been an error. Called Sprint, was on hold, asked "You couldn't have used 600 SMS, right?" "Well..." They retroactively put me on the 1000 SMS plan and only charged the difference, not the overage. Dec 06 03:56:48 dawm: bah, go download Precorder :P Dec 06 03:57:02 zsoc: it's an ARM11 at 800MHz, slower than the processor in the Pre which is a cortex. Dec 06 03:57:03 that works better than the driod app :P Dec 06 03:57:09 I just don't like the styling of the HTC Hero Dec 06 03:57:14 EdLin: thank you for clearing that up :) Dec 06 03:57:19 FoxFireX: backdating ftw Dec 06 03:57:26 I would have gotten it if they kept the GSM version styling, even with the chin Dec 06 03:57:47 dawm: that's really _really_ sad. I can't even begin to explain how much of a terrible hack precorder is Dec 06 03:57:53 hehe Dec 06 03:58:31 i was on the old sero, got the pre and switched to the normal plan, then contacted support over chat and got switched to the new sero.. took a total of 3 minutes. thats the best sprint support experience ive had Dec 06 03:58:49 new sero? Dec 06 03:59:04 its the same as normal, just $5 cheaper Dec 06 03:59:05 We've always received SERO plans through work Dec 06 03:59:25 $10 cheaper. Dec 06 03:59:28 that was my only regret getting the pre.. was my bill doubled Dec 06 03:59:30 Everything Plus Dec 06 03:59:37 dawm: I'm on the 450 minute everything data. Dec 06 03:59:40 yah 10 cheaper Dec 06 03:59:55 the lowest sero plan is 500mins and $10 cheaper Dec 06 04:00:17 hmm, well, its probably too late for me to get that. Dec 06 04:00:25 EdLin: No Dec 06 04:00:36 Just call them up and say you want everything plus Dec 06 04:01:06 actually my best experience with sprint was getting the $100 rebate when i got my HTC Mogul.. it wasnt $100 it was $300~ the exact price i paid for the phone :P Dec 06 04:01:09 that's all, and they'll just knock $10 off my phone bill, no questions asked? Dec 06 04:01:18 Saw something recently where some folks got onto a plan with a base monthly rate of $2.50 (!). Dec 06 04:01:20 EdLin: You know how to BS? Dec 06 04:01:29 yeah. Dec 06 04:01:39 Then use that skill Dec 06 04:02:00 well im off to bed, gotta goto work at 4am ;( Dec 06 04:02:12 Nighters. Dec 06 04:02:48 night Dec 06 04:03:02 I know people on Verizon who never got their rebate. Dec 06 04:15:28 zsoc:have you tried this? Dec 06 04:15:32 what did you say to them? Dec 06 04:16:54 Hey lets ping someone in the channel and then message them at the same time, that's awesome. Dec 06 04:31:51 G'night all. Dec 06 05:47:42 hi all! Dec 06 05:48:02 Hey Jen Dec 06 05:48:09 hey Doc! Dec 06 05:48:29 did you get the 1000 ads yet? Dec 06 05:48:34 Yes Dec 06 05:48:39 cool! Dec 06 05:49:00 thank you for the web scraping code Dec 06 05:49:03 i'm looking at it now Dec 06 05:49:43 No problem Dec 06 05:50:10 so is the app ready to release? Dec 06 05:50:25 It's not really web scraping. Just taking the web page as an xml outline and then parsing one of the divs Dec 06 05:50:33 Yes Dec 06 05:50:40 The app is going to be submitted in a few minutes Dec 06 05:50:45 it's still really cool! Dec 06 05:50:47 awesome! Dec 06 05:51:02 have you decided on your next one yet? Dec 06 05:51:11 I just need to obfuscate the radiotime api file Dec 06 05:51:28 i love that word...obfuscate Dec 06 05:51:54 We'll see how this one goes. If it goes well, then I'm thinking of either doing a widgets app or an orb client Dec 06 05:52:10 But, I'd really like to get an android phone Dec 06 05:52:55 you'll have to let me know how that goes...i'm very unfamiliar with the android line Dec 06 05:53:45 I think within a year, it will be the dominant smartphone OS Dec 06 05:53:54 really? Dec 06 05:54:01 Definitely Dec 06 05:54:38 wow Dec 06 06:03:03 reality what are you using for obfuscation? Usually that doesnt work so well Dec 06 06:04:18 CTLAdvance-work: Javascript Obfuscator Dec 06 06:04:33 by javascript-source.com Dec 06 06:04:33 is that the name of the app? Dec 06 06:04:47 Yes Dec 06 06:05:25 It's the only one I found that runs the code correctly after obfuscating Dec 06 06:07:26 reality9110: do you really need to obfuscate? Dec 06 06:07:55 thats what I was wondering usually it doesnt do anything Dec 06 06:08:33 gkatsev: To keep an API key at least out of easy site, yes. Dec 06 06:09:37 at least it will make them work for it Dec 06 06:10:43 So did you pay for this thing? Dec 06 06:11:39 Yeah Dec 06 06:11:45 They have a trial Dec 06 06:12:06 I used it on BroadCAST Radio. Dec 06 06:12:52 Worked out really well. Dec 06 06:12:59 Nice which version did you go with, dev or ent Dec 06 06:13:12 Dev Dec 06 06:14:11 I got it for cheaper than the $69 they are charging now though Dec 06 06:14:20 Got it on a sale for $39 Dec 06 06:15:12 ok thans Dec 06 06:15:14 thanks Dec 06 06:23:36 What's the app catalog's app id? Dec 06 06:31:14 arrrgh Dec 06 06:36:23 howdy! Dec 06 06:38:05 just dropped my phone in water Dec 06 06:41:05 I'm trying to install Preware on Windows 7, I'm using the WebOSquickinstall program, with no luck. I also tried doing it in OS X 10.6 also with no luck, the program keeps telling me that it can't find my device. Dec 06 06:42:04 anyone here? Dec 06 06:42:33 * EdLin tries webos-internals Dec 06 06:42:38 here Dec 06 06:42:51 EdLin: yeah, preware is more of a #webos-internals question. not #webos Dec 06 06:44:57 looks like nobody's around there either. I just want to install preware, nothing advanced.... Dec 06 06:48:12 howdy Dec 06 06:57:02 any body here? Dec 06 07:35:30 Edlin Dec 06 07:35:37 your device isnt in dev mode Dec 06 11:59:09 Anyone on? Dec 06 13:39:46 anyone around that has dealt with replacing a phone? Dec 06 14:25:42 hello fellow webOS developers! Dec 06 14:28:30 i come to thee with a query! i have two widgets. one is a Button, the other is a TextField (initially hidden). i'd like to unhide the TextField and give it the focus so the user can type when they click the Button. the show() part works well, but how do I focus a widget?! Dec 06 14:29:57 sniffing around forums suggested this.controller.get("theIdOfTheTFWidget").mojo.focus() - but that does bugger all... Dec 06 14:31:07 ie. after that call, anything I try to type goes... somewhere else. or nowhere. who could tell? i have debugging enabled, but palm-log for the app doesn't spit out any errors. Dec 06 14:37:17 i suspect that it might be because i'm listening for a tap event on the button, which then (i guess) propagates up to the button's default handler after i'm through which kills the TextField focus... Dec 06 14:40:32 hm... this is evil... it seems (to me) that there's an undocumented function called stopPropagating on Mojo.Event which does what one might guess it does from the name :-( Dec 06 15:06:57 hi Dec 06 15:14:20 howdy, just came from france Dec 06 15:15:16 Le vanche est blue et le pre est noir Dec 06 15:19:45 je nes pas, le pre est cool! Dec 06 15:31:53 here's a concise solution for my previous problem: http://www.ordecon.com/2009/12/06/setting-focus-on-webos-widgets-in-response-to-tap-events/ Dec 06 15:37:04 parle francois? Dec 06 15:40:18 mornin' Roy Dec 06 15:41:02 hallo sugardave Dec 06 15:41:21 hey hey Dec 06 15:46:15 sugardave: how is your day Dec 06 15:47:00 s'alright....got another 4.5 hours of driving ahead before I get to be home and can FINALLY play with the new Palm shiny toy Dec 06 15:47:46 you driving texting and twittering at the same time? Dec 06 15:48:22 nah, I'm currently at my mother-in-law's house...stopped in last night to catch that heart attack-inducing Longhorn game Dec 06 15:48:31 we're packing up stuff to leave soon Dec 06 15:49:05 very close game Dec 06 15:49:17 thinking UT was slacking Dec 06 15:49:27 indeed...they sure looked like it Dec 06 15:52:42 did not think alabama would win Dec 06 15:58:17 any Drupal gurus around that I can bug later tonight/this week? Dec 06 16:00:03 morning, sugardave. Dec 06 16:00:46 Roy-Pre101 Dec 06 16:00:47 and everyone else Dec 06 16:00:57 do you sleep? Dec 06 16:02:42 Never enough. Dec 06 16:05:59 nicr Dec 06 16:06:04 nice Dec 06 16:06:54 have a safe drive Dec 06 16:07:58 Am I missing something or did LoneStar34 just go schizophrenic? Dec 06 16:09:32 Schizophrenic? o perhaps just having alot of pints Dec 06 16:10:22 Just checking. Wouldn't want to have to Baker Act you Dec 06 16:11:47 Wish I were Schizo, then I would a reason to be very stupid Dec 06 16:12:07 would have a Dec 06 16:12:30 schizophrenia does not imply stupid Dec 06 16:13:03 yeah of cource but alot of pints does Dec 06 16:13:16 One of the smartest chemists I know was a schizophrenic Dec 06 16:14:08 really - one of the best things I ever saw was drunk Dec 06 16:14:36 Granted, he went overboard after going off his meds and ended up jumping off a 5 story building. Didn't die. But sure managed to mangle up his legs. Dec 06 16:16:32 wow, that is nuts Dec 06 16:17:31 at the end everyone is nuts, but some people just decide to go nuts Dec 06 16:17:37 anyone ever dealt with getting a replacement phone through TEP after the 30 days are up? Am I going to have to call Asurion and wait for them or can I get it taken care of at a sprint store? (I don't care about the $100 deductable I just want my phone again asap) Dec 06 16:18:31 punzada: I'd probably call up sprint and see how that's handled Dec 06 16:18:31 punzada: call india i mean sprint Dec 06 16:19:33 ugh, okay. Dec 06 16:19:34 lol Dec 06 16:19:39 reality do u want to test opera? Dec 06 16:19:57 Test opera as in the browser? Dec 06 16:20:27 have u seen the new stuff? Dec 06 16:20:40 Not lately Dec 06 16:20:47 I use firefox Dec 06 16:21:09 so do I for development Dec 06 16:22:07 So what do I need to test? Dec 06 16:22:32 http://home.lonestarbeer.operaunite.com/file_sharing/ Dec 06 16:23:02 iNOY Dec 06 16:23:33 Can't fileshare on this computer Dec 06 16:24:12 pazz: iNOY Dec 06 16:25:40 LoneStar34: I understand. But what I'm saying is that I can't fileshare on this computer. Dec 06 16:26:08 Technically, I'm not supposed to use mIRC from it either Dec 06 16:27:03 technically: i am not sharing just giving it to you Dec 06 16:27:58 Giving what? Access? Dec 06 16:28:30 access it is just like a web search Dec 06 16:29:19 I'll try it later on in the day when I'm on my computer. Dec 06 16:30:13 ok, cool I had the newest release of my web service on the app Dec 06 16:31:02 all it is a url shortner Dec 06 16:31:32 with a mind Dec 06 16:34:52 http://uoid.me/oracle1 or http://bit.ly/6FcmSd Dec 06 16:46:42 Good Morning everyone! Dec 06 16:47:04 Hey Jen Dec 06 16:47:10 Hi Doc! Dec 06 16:59:08 morning! Dec 06 17:27:46 Handel on the Law is on Dec 06 17:34:11 entity-: it is in dev mode when I did it, the upupdowndownleftrightleftrightbastart and use the devel mode app, right? Dec 06 17:35:17 EdLin, it should be. why not just use the shorter "webos20090606" ? Dec 06 17:35:34 EdLin, oh and you need to reboot I think after you enable the dev mode... Dec 06 17:35:44 yeah, did that Dec 06 17:36:41 LoneStar34: an URL shortener with a mind? will it treat us humans well or are we to become obsolete? Dec 06 17:39:39 keeps saying no device inserted Dec 06 17:43:33 not sure what we want, coming from a star! Dec 06 17:46:51 the uroid URL shortener is what it is, we are ready to better than bit.ly Dec 06 17:47:41 what is happening right now Dec 06 17:50:08 zsoc: it is what it is Dec 06 17:50:25 how do I reboot the Pre so development mode will work right? Dec 06 17:50:34 EdLin: if it's on, it's working. Dec 06 17:50:44 zsoc: well, its not working. Dec 06 17:50:59 EdLin: why do you say that? Dec 06 17:51:12 its not working, that's why. :P Dec 06 17:51:20 ... define "not working" Dec 06 17:51:34 webosquickinstall doesn't know its there. Dec 06 17:52:00 what OS Dec 06 17:52:11 OS X 10.6 Dec 06 17:52:19 Windows 7 works just as badly Dec 06 17:52:44 er.. OS X 10.6? does that even support java 6? Dec 06 17:52:49 yes Dec 06 17:52:54 comes with it Dec 06 17:53:04 10.6 = Snow Leopard Dec 06 17:53:06 hm, my vote is on novacom Dec 06 17:53:21 I tried reinstalling novocom no joy Dec 06 17:54:17 I'm downloading the Palm SDK, is there a way to install programs easily from it? Dec 06 17:57:37 I'll ask on -internals Dec 06 18:00:06 anyone have experience with a service request for sending an email? Dec 06 18:01:54 i am trying to preload the value for an email address.keeps coming up blank Dec 06 18:02:18 do you need to set the displayname if you include a value smtp address? Dec 06 18:09:57 do you need to set the displayname if you include a value smtp address? Dec 06 18:10:06 answer seems to be yes... Dec 06 18:27:17 lemketron: ping Dec 06 18:29:54 has anyone been able to get the 'charsAllow' attribute to work for TextField ? Dec 06 18:30:42 this should basically make you not be able to type, right? charsAllow: function(event) { return false; } Dec 06 19:02:36 dBsooner: 'sup? Dec 06 19:14:22 clanlash: rigt. Dec 06 19:16:41 right, too. Dec 06 19:47:12 lemketron: Sorry, was watching football.. I was just wondering how the development was coming along.. Dec 06 19:59:15 danlash: to get the cars allowed to work..basically you create a function that checks the ascii code and returns either true or false for if it is allowed. Dec 06 20:01:24 danlash: //add this function to the assistant to check for numbers only. Dec 06 20:01:24 MainAssistant.prototype.checkChar = function(ascii){ Dec 06 20:01:24 return (ascii >= 48 && ascii <= 57); Dec 06 20:01:24 } Dec 06 20:02:32 danlash: then bind to the method in the attributes like this... charsAllow: this.checkChar.bind(this) Dec 06 20:08:22 webosschool-just: what does the "bind" part of that do? Dec 06 20:10:31 anyone here use tweed? Dec 06 20:10:45 i do Dec 06 20:10:48 that is a prototype thing. it just ensures that you have the right scope. Really just a best practice kinda thing. Dec 06 20:11:04 same here danlash ... the menu @ the right of the header bar Dec 06 20:11:09 is that a submenu or a view menu? Dec 06 20:11:18 (where you can click home, @name, trends, etc_ Dec 06 20:11:45 so... i asked earlier to no avail. Is there a patch that'll let me ( a Bell user ) use Yahoo messenger like everyone else gets to? Dec 06 20:12:07 e^ipi: i thought there was a messenger patch available for it in preware Dec 06 20:12:28 im not a yahoo user so i never looked into it but im pretty sure one exists - check precentral.net Dec 06 20:16:19 just looking for a way to implement a drop-down menu button at the right of my header to change scenes Dec 06 20:24:35 im looking at setting up a viewmenu per palm's sample code Dec 06 20:24:54 i;ve set up the widget in my js file for the scene, but don't know how to call it via div in the html file Dec 06 20:31:28 yetdog i cant find it in stylematters, but i think its a submenu Dec 06 20:31:49 yeah me either (stylematters) Dec 06 20:35:54 Do you really want it to drop down? Or do you just want a menu? Dec 06 20:37:55 webosschool-just: i tried doing the bind like you did with teh function you sent but i can still type anything Dec 06 20:39:36 i guess i'm not going to worry about it as long as i just have the default input mode as numlock Dec 06 20:42:07 reality9110: id like it to drop down ideally...seems to be a nice smooth looking way of handling a menu Dec 06 20:42:31 yetdog: Might need to put it into a drawer then Dec 06 20:42:34 what frustrates me is this page(https://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1658) has an image next to "View Menu" that is EXACTLY what i want to do Dec 06 20:42:44 but in the subsequent page, does not show you how to do it Dec 06 20:43:05 im struggling on how to actually call it in the html (div?) Dec 06 20:43:21 im just playing around w/ header buttons, etc, but they arent showing up in the html Dec 06 20:43:28 i see samples w/ the JS code but not the html Dec 06 20:43:36 yetdog: That's just a button for the view menu Dec 06 20:44:00 Hold up. I've got some html for that mess. Dec 06 20:44:07 lol ok :) Dec 06 20:44:17 I used them in BroadCAST Radio Dec 06 20:44:59 afternoon all Dec 06 20:45:07 afternoon, dbalmer Dec 06 20:47:28 yetdog: http://webos.pastebin.com/m3059148b Dec 06 20:48:07 yetdog: then setup a listener for the div playing-icon-container Dec 06 20:48:18 hmmm Dec 06 20:48:19 hello everyone Dec 06 20:48:21 (thank you!) Dec 06 20:52:09 like this? Dec 06 20:52:10 this.okButton = this.controller.get('playing-icon-container'); Dec 06 20:52:11 this.eventHandler = this.handleOk.bind(this); Dec 06 20:52:11 Mojo.Event.listen(this.okButton, Mojo.Event.tap, this.eventHandler); Dec 06 20:52:11 Mojo.Event.stopListening(this.okButton, Mojo.Event.tap, this.eventHandler); Dec 06 20:52:43 I'd avoid naming things this.eventHandler Dec 06 20:53:03 how come? Dec 06 20:53:26 Because it's going to get confusing as soon as you start to add many different buttons and eventlisteners Dec 06 20:53:36 yeah good point. i changed the name to menuHandler Dec 06 20:53:39 That might be the best irc statement/response combo I've seen all week Dec 06 20:53:59 :) i've been fortunate - this channel has been great for me so far Dec 06 20:54:11 no one has made me feel dumb even tho i'm very green at JS development Dec 06 20:54:53 even though there's lots of errata, i should probably pick up the o'reilly book anyway just so i can have a thorough reference for building JS/HTML stuff so im more familiar Dec 06 20:56:06 ok, so i'm not really used to the MVC in js thing ... i can't figuer out the model changed stuff Dec 06 20:56:19 i can update a text field like this: $("value").update(''); Dec 06 20:56:30 yetdog: In your CSS, make sure to define the size and placement of the button Dec 06 20:56:43 danlash: you have to change the model and then update it Dec 06 20:56:50 but this doesnt seem to work: this.valueModel.value = newValue; this.controller.modelChanged(this.valueModel, $("myButton")); Dec 06 20:57:41 maybe its the 'who' param that i'm getting wrong Dec 06 20:57:43 The image can be in the playing-icon-wrapper. Then the actual click area is the playing-icon-container. So, even if you use a small image, you can have a larger click area Dec 06 20:58:26 danlash: in my code i have: this.commandInputElement = this.controller.get('MySearchField'); Dec 06 20:58:32 in the setup Dec 06 20:58:52 that gets you the model? or the widget? Dec 06 20:59:00 and then later: this.commandInputTextModel.value = event.item.data; Dec 06 20:59:00 this.controller.modelChanged(this.commandInputTextModel); Dec 06 20:59:04 reality9110: tie the image to "playing-icon" though, right? Dec 06 20:59:17 oh you you dont even pass a who param Dec 06 20:59:20 danlash: the widget Dec 06 20:59:45 danlash: this works in my app Dec 06 21:04:50 interesting, i had both the $("value").update(''); style and the model changed style in the same method, and it didnt work Dec 06 21:05:01 but commenting out the $ part made the modelchanged worke Dec 06 21:05:05 cool, thanks swisstomcat Dec 06 21:05:07 wohoo Dec 06 21:05:43 yetdog: playing-icon-wrapper Dec 06 21:05:53 danlash: i'm passing on what i have learned from others Dec 06 21:05:53 You can remove playing-icon Dec 06 21:06:01 That was for something else Dec 06 21:08:00 reality9110: nice, thank you. i have the image floating where i want it, on the right side of the header Dec 06 21:09:02 now i just have to create the drop down after the event listener is created in the JS code? Dec 06 21:12:23 is there some quick/simple way of making a Button with an image inside it? Dec 06 21:12:43 (i'm trying to make something that looks like the attach/send button in the messaging application) Dec 06 21:14:41 yetdog: yes Dec 06 21:15:40 ivanst: Read the past 30 minutes of conversation Dec 06 21:15:41 and that's a submenu? Dec 06 21:15:58 yetdog: submenu will work Dec 06 21:16:38 If you run 2 emulators at once, what port does the 2nd's SSH bind to? Dec 06 21:16:49 the first is on 5522, what about the second? Dec 06 21:19:20 thanks reality9110 i will work on it! very big help thank you Dec 06 21:41:03 good afternook Dec 06 21:41:44 hey atlanta in fla.. Dec 06 21:41:49 wsup wsup Dec 06 21:42:04 not much. recovering from the snow Dec 06 21:42:11 u? Dec 06 21:42:59