**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Dec 22 02:59:56 2009 Dec 22 03:00:16 m55, so you want it to animate in the pop direction when you push? Dec 22 03:00:21 yeah Dec 22 03:00:22 m55: First off, there are style guidelines about transitions. Dec 22 03:01:14 I'm using swap scene vs. a pop to 'pop' off my scene Dec 22 03:02:03 it will look wrong when users use the back gesture/press cancel unless i can set it in the pop direction Dec 22 03:36:26 oi waiting for my first app approval is nerve racking Dec 22 03:41:58 anyone one know what the following does "class="palm-scrim"" Dec 22 03:47:58 LoneStar34: yes, it displays a translucent overlay, usually used for progress indicators Dec 22 03:48:09 check out the style-matters sample app Dec 22 03:49:41 is it the faded ends on the scroller? Dec 22 03:57:56 no, a scrim is a translucent overlay over the entire scene. The fades are different. Dec 22 03:59:43 haeffb: do i have to make the fade images? or are they rendered by webos Dec 22 04:01:06 try
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Dec 22 04:02:10 * haeffb doesn't know what I'm talking about... Dec 22 04:02:14 can I do
? Dec 22 04:05:43 looks like you have to create the fade thru css. Dec 22 04:06:40 stylematters has examples of scroll fades Dec 22 04:08:12 ok, that what i thought, ok will check out stylematters Dec 22 04:08:47 thanks Dec 22 04:09:20 ssshh. can't you see I'm sleeping! Dec 22 04:10:22 lol: Dec 22 04:10:24 sorry Dec 22 04:11:08 later Dec 22 04:11:10 :) Dec 22 04:11:37 laters Dec 22 04:17:33 Where are all the Canadians at? Dec 22 04:18:32 Okay, setting up my SDK on my new little netbook. Been doing development on Mac in Aptana (Eclipse derivative). Anyone have suggestions for what dev env I should use for Windows 7? Dec 22 04:18:37 (On an underpowered netbook?) Dec 22 04:18:57 watching hockey maybe? Dec 22 04:19:17 (could apply to either question) Dec 22 04:19:25 * FoxFireX momentarily tried to figure out how watching hockey would help him develop. :) Dec 22 04:20:00 waiting for your slow computer.. Dec 22 04:23:06 FoxFireX: Komodo Edit Dec 22 04:23:14 definitely Dec 22 04:23:45 I've looked at that one on the Mac; seemed pretty good, but I was a little disappointed that there was no Subversion integration unless you stepped up to the paid version. Dec 22 04:24:09 Any good subversion clients for Windows that'll do the job? Dec 22 04:27:00 I don't use subversion so nope. Dec 22 04:27:09 I probably should but meh Dec 22 04:27:26 I figure I need to use something. Conditioned to it from real work. :) Dec 22 04:27:37 Got lucky that the one I picked happened to be the one that Ares supports. Dec 22 04:28:23 hello all Dec 22 04:28:42 i'm having a strange problem where i can't install a program... luna is claiming that i don';t have enough space Dec 22 04:29:08 but i've removed other programs, that are larger than the requested size Dec 22 04:29:13 and the problem is persistent Dec 22 04:29:34 specifically it's radiotime Dec 22 04:31:43 branded welcoem Dec 22 04:31:45 welcome Dec 22 04:31:52 thanks man Dec 22 04:31:53 it's not app's that is your problem Dec 22 04:31:55 weird problem Dec 22 04:32:03 yea, i suspected Dec 22 04:32:12 went to internals to see if any patches affect Dec 22 04:32:17 what do you think it is Dec 22 04:32:18 ? Dec 22 04:32:20 branded, have you got linux command line access to your pre? Dec 22 04:32:24 yea Dec 22 04:32:32 df /var Dec 22 04:32:36 okay hold on Dec 22 04:32:40 i'll pop up terminal Dec 22 04:33:40 253920 164088 89832 65% used Dec 22 04:33:54 (1k blocks, used, available) Dec 22 04:34:45 branded you've hit app space limit 2 Dec 22 04:34:52 app space limit 1 is 64 meg of apps Dec 22 04:35:02 app space limit 2 is 100 meg free space in /var Dec 22 04:35:12 you got 89832 Dec 22 04:35:14 ooops Dec 22 04:35:25 yea ~89MB? Dec 22 04:35:39 This is, almost without a doubt taken up with your email accounts. Dec 22 04:35:41 oh free Dec 22 04:35:47 ahhh interesting Dec 22 04:35:53 can that be redirected? Dec 22 04:36:00 hah... probably not Dec 22 04:36:04 interesting Dec 22 04:36:12 okay, let me curb back on the gmail Dec 22 04:36:13 i don't need 3 months Dec 22 04:36:22 branded, here's the solution Dec 22 04:36:31 REMOVE your gmail account Dec 22 04:36:34 then re-install it. Dec 22 04:36:37 lay it on me, rock it out Dec 22 04:36:50 understood Dec 22 04:36:54 cool thanks Dec 22 04:37:14 saddly reducing the retention limit doesn't actuqally delete the old emails Dec 22 04:37:16 ooops Dec 22 04:37:17 it will retain the "old" emails even if the retention time is changed? Dec 22 04:37:21 boo yah Dec 22 04:37:22 okay cool Dec 22 04:37:40 should solve the problem Dec 22 04:37:44 awesome man Dec 22 04:37:46 thanks Dec 22 04:37:54 humm... anyway to reallocate something? Dec 22 04:37:57 partition size or what not? Dec 22 04:38:17 branded 1.3.5 release fixes the problem Dec 22 04:38:22 cool Dec 22 04:38:25 thanks a lot man! Dec 22 04:38:29 i really really appreciate it Dec 22 04:38:37 which Palm has annou7nced they will be releasing concomitant with CES jan 7 Dec 22 04:38:45 nice Dec 22 04:38:57 so, solution not far off. Dec 22 04:39:04 cool cool! Dec 22 04:39:08 thanks a lot man! Dec 22 04:39:13 i'm headed to bed Dec 22 04:39:15 have a good night! Dec 22 04:39:23 night Dec 22 04:41:46 Hey everyone, Has anyone had trouble with the Deadman app? Dec 22 04:42:32 Hi Guys Dec 22 04:42:56 Okay, so grabbing Komodo. Any plugins or anything I should try to grab while I'm at it? Dec 22 04:43:10 Does we need the virtual box for trying out plam pre samples in mac? Dec 22 04:43:33 I am not sure what it is Dec 22 04:43:43 Can any one help me? Dec 22 04:43:48 If you want to run the emulator, you'll need Virtual Box. There should be a link on the SDK download page. Dec 22 04:49:41 FoxFireX: The Templarian WebOS stuff for Komodo Dec 22 04:49:53 http://webos.templarian.com/komodo/ Dec 22 04:50:06 Just found it and already downloading. Thanks! Dec 22 05:00:35 * Templarian grins Dec 22 05:03:57 anyone know how to add a new image to textfield, have tried the following: Dec 22 05:03:58 #sendField .textfield-group { Dec 22 05:03:59 /*clear: both; Dec 22 05:03:59 border-width: 15px;*/ Dec 22 05:03:59 -webkit-border-image: url(../images/txt-bk-up.png) 15 15 15 15 stretch stretch; Dec 22 05:03:59 } Dec 22 05:06:22 i ahve downloaded the virtual box Dec 22 05:06:54 but its asking the xp/vista CD while doing the instalation Dec 22 05:07:18 Dunno what to tell ya; haven't installed on XP/Vista myself. Dec 22 05:08:21 Tiny what version of virtualbox did you download Dec 22 05:08:28 and what OS are you on again? Dec 22 05:08:42 hm, anyone ran into a situation where you need to change the attributes of a widget after the creation? Is it possible? Dec 22 05:09:01 jbjoerk what do you want to change? Dec 22 05:09:04 Virtual box verion is 3.1.10 Dec 22 05:09:11 attributes are possible but difficult Dec 22 05:09:33 rick_home: List widget, disable reorder and swipeToDelete Dec 22 05:09:34 tiny that version WILL NOT run the emulator Dec 22 05:09:53 Tiny you need 3.0.10 Dec 22 05:10:00 nothing later will work Dec 22 05:10:07 rick_home : Sorry its 3.0.10 only Dec 22 05:10:33 I could get rid of swipeToDelete by setting the preventDeleteProperty for all my items, but I don't think there is a way to prevent reorder like that Dec 22 05:10:35 rick_home: i am using the mac os Dec 22 05:11:57 Tiny doesn't matter Dec 22 05:12:00 3.0.10 Dec 22 05:12:14 rick_home: does we need to insert the xp cd? Dec 22 05:12:32 tiny if you're running the max osx version, then why would you? Dec 22 05:12:39 I think you might have downloaded an xp version Dec 22 05:12:49 ohhh... Dec 22 05:12:52 Is it Dec 22 05:13:03 jbjoerk doesn't reorder issue a callback? Dec 22 05:13:12 rick_home: yeah, after it happened Dec 22 05:13:30 not very nice experience if the user is able to drag items around, then I just move em back under their feet Dec 22 05:13:44 rick_home : Its showing the errors as no bootable medium found, syem haled Dec 22 05:14:04 rick_home: Does i need to install mac version? Dec 22 05:24:00 jbjoerk you're absolutely right, but there is no exposed way to change that attribute after setup Dec 22 05:24:35 Tiny, you install virtual box. Dec 22 05:24:41 and now you're trying to RUN it? Dec 22 05:24:46 or you're having trouble installing it? Dec 22 05:26:11 at no point should the mac vbox ask you for an xp disk Dec 22 05:26:23 I think that at some point you have ASKED vbox to set up an XP virtual machine. Dec 22 05:26:30 which you want to cancel. Dec 22 05:26:32 rick_home: "possible but difficult" ? Dec 22 05:26:59 yep Dec 22 05:27:23 got inspector running jbjoerk ? Dec 22 05:27:26 nope Dec 22 05:27:39 rick_home : whiel installign i saw that error Dec 22 05:27:39 never used it... :P Dec 22 05:28:41 jbjoerk you're going to have to change the attributes of the instantiated object by finding the event chain for it and re-pointing the event handler Dec 22 05:28:51 tiny you have the wrong version anyway Dec 22 05:28:59 uninstall it, download 3.0.10 and re-install Dec 22 05:29:46 rick_home: k, trying to set up the inspector now, seems like a useful tool Dec 22 05:29:53 rick_home : I have done,,... same thing dear Dec 22 05:31:17 has anyone else been getting an app catatlog unavailable message lately? Dec 22 05:31:42 tiny, you downloaded http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/3.0.10/VirtualBox-3.0.10-54097-OSX.dmg Dec 22 05:31:45 ???? Dec 22 05:31:58 scasplte2 you get that when you try to install? Dec 22 05:32:07 rick_home... Exactly now doen same Dec 22 05:32:46 ok, and when you go through the install you get no option asking if at some point you want it to set up a virtual xp for you? Dec 22 05:32:51 rick_home yeah only when I try to download and install Dec 22 05:33:03 scasplte2 you on wifi or evdo? Dec 22 05:33:53 that error is almost always that the checksum of the downloaded file fails. Which is due to a download error. Dec 22 05:33:56 rick_home evdo but I don't believe it worked on wifi about a week ago but I haven't got a way to check now Dec 22 05:34:05 rick_home : fatal : No Bootable medium found!! System Halted Dec 22 05:34:24 Tiny that's what you get when you try to run it? Dec 22 05:34:31 or when you try to run the install? Dec 22 05:34:40 i have installed it Dec 22 05:34:48 ok, so you're trying to run it. Dec 22 05:34:55 when i open it from applications , it shwing the error Dec 22 05:35:07 yes rick_home Dec 22 05:35:58 ok, You should have a virtual box aCONTROL app Dec 22 05:36:13 I think you're trying to run an INSTANCE of a virtual PC, and not the control app Dec 22 05:36:41 How can run the control app? Dec 22 05:36:48 you're running "Sun VirtualBox" ??? Dec 22 05:36:54 yes.. Dec 22 05:37:05 while runnign only its shoing the error Dec 22 05:38:28 weird Dec 22 05:38:36 you uninstalled the 3.1 right? Dec 22 05:38:58 when you did the installation and ran the VirtualBox.mpkg -- did it ask you where you were going to install to? Dec 22 05:39:41 scasplte2 do you have command line access to the pre via novaterm or ssh? or have you installed terminal on the pre? Dec 22 05:40:08 I have terminal loaded Dec 22 05:40:28 scasplte2 please type df /var in terminal Dec 22 05:40:32 and tell me what it says Dec 22 05:44:00 rick_home its not formatted very well but from what I can tell it says: filesystem 1k-blocks used available use% mounted on /dev/mapper/store_var 253920 58324 195596 23% var Dec 22 05:44:30 well then, you are not app-limit limted, Dec 22 05:44:51 you have not crossed app limit 1 (64 meg of apps) because you have only 58meg in /var Dec 22 05:45:08 and you have not crossed app limit 2 because you have more than 100 meg free in /var (195 meg) Dec 22 05:45:14 so it is NOT app limit Dec 22 05:45:27 so you're catalog problems are with interrupted downloads Dec 22 05:45:43 Is the pre going to sleep during the download? Or are you running a chat, or talking on the phone? Dec 22 05:46:10 no Dec 22 05:46:15 any of those will interrupt the download and cause checksum failure. Dec 22 05:46:41 Then scasplte2 you're cursed. Go burn sage on the kitchen stove, and scatter salt over all your windowsills. :-) Dec 22 05:47:30 I'm not sure if preware follows the same steps as the app catalog but preware works fine Dec 22 05:47:38 unless you're married. In which case, go ask your wife to forgive you. It doesn't matter for what..... Dec 22 05:47:46 preware uses a completely different method Dec 22 05:48:01 I thought it might Dec 22 05:48:11 ok well I'll try the sage Dec 22 05:48:29 and then maybe webos doc thanks though Dec 22 05:48:53 scasplte2 I had the problem for three weeks once, then suddenly, it went away. Dec 22 05:49:03 As I said, you offended some minor ghod. Dec 22 05:49:11 (or your wife) Dec 22 05:49:32 rick_home: uninstalled 3.10 Dec 22 05:50:27 nodnod. Dec 22 05:50:39 ricke_home : its did't ask anthing... Dec 22 05:50:53 as you installed 3.0 it didn't ask where to install? Dec 22 05:51:02 ((( It's supposed to ))) Dec 22 05:51:07 rick_home Dec 22 05:51:13 It did't ask Dec 22 05:51:23 Can i reove and reinstall it? Dec 22 05:51:24 Tiny, sorry guy, I'm not a mac user, and you'lve now pushed past my abilities. Dec 22 05:51:49 Any one else can help? Dec 22 05:51:54 Please join #webos-internals and see if there's a mac user on line there. Dec 22 05:52:01 rick_home: which os u r using? Dec 22 05:52:03 we'll try one shout out here. Dec 22 05:52:14 lemketron you awake? Help! Dec 22 05:52:33 Tiny window 7, vista, xp, and ubuntu Dec 22 05:52:45 but I don't do fruit. Dec 22 05:53:18 and Mr Lemke appears not to be at his PC. Dec 22 05:53:43 so, I suggest you go ask in #webos-internals if there's a mac person available. Templarian if he's around should be able to help you, and oil might Dec 22 05:54:00 even rwhitby does fruit sometimes. Dec 22 05:54:32 but none of them appear to be listening in this channel. Check #webos-internals Dec 22 05:57:00 Use the Palm uninstaller to uninstall the SDK. Use the VirtualBox uninstaller to uninstall VirtualBox. Reboot. Follow the instructions on developer.palm.com to download and install VirtualBox and the SDK. Dec 22 05:57:24 rick_home: you should know by know that the first question to ask is "which set of instructions are you following, URL please" Dec 22 06:00:45 * Templarian doesn't do fruit either. Dec 22 06:03:33 hi, I'm trying to add a rss feed to the roughcuts news app. standard feeds work fine, but a feed ending with .sgxml won't read at all. Dec 22 06:04:27 I'm lost as to where else to ask about this Dec 22 11:09:50 anyone here: successfully changed the image of the text field? Dec 22 11:51:50 howdy sugardave! Dec 22 13:08:15 hey atlanta.. Dec 22 13:08:43 top of the morning to yous Dec 22 13:09:38 Bmyers: wsup my man Dec 22 13:17:52 atlanta or Bmyers: have you all ever changed the background image of the text-field
? Dec 22 13:18:11 yea Dec 22 13:18:16 in my current app i did Dec 22 13:18:23 theres a bit of a work to it Dec 22 13:19:14 atlanta: I have "#sendField .textfield-group { Dec 22 13:19:15 /*clear: both; Dec 22 13:19:15 border-width: 15px;*/ Dec 22 13:19:15 -webkit-border-image: url(../images/btn-org-dn.png) 15 15 15 15 stretch stretch; Dec 22 13:19:15 }" Dec 22 13:19:24 but to no avail... Dec 22 13:23:09 when get home ill have to send u the css i used Dec 22 13:23:21 it was alot of tweaking around with that and hinttext Dec 22 13:24:25 atlanta: is it all css or also javascript? Dec 22 13:24:30 all css Dec 22 13:24:39 oh ok, Dec 22 13:24:40 thanks Dec 22 13:24:43 yurp Dec 22 13:24:56 are u using a multi line text field Dec 22 13:24:57 ? Dec 22 13:25:02 gonna submit my app today in a few hours Dec 22 13:25:17 one line textbox Dec 22 13:25:23 oh ok Dec 22 13:25:27 try Dec 22 13:25:32 changing the css on INPUT Dec 22 13:26:17 palm has master css that seems to take over Dec 22 13:26:56 yeah, was looking at the excel file "global-textfields.css" Dec 22 13:27:04 is what takes over Dec 22 13:27:13 yup theres more thats not on there Dec 22 13:27:28 grrr PALM needs to ramp up on these apis Dec 22 13:28:01 yeah, a simple override command Dec 22 13:28:10 so we can get some A+ shit Dec 22 13:28:34 yeap, so far like everything, but the textbox kinda creeps me out Dec 22 13:43:02 good morning Dec 22 13:43:13 i'm having trouble removing an email account Dec 22 13:43:37 it seems that when i hit Remove Account, the app begins working, but never actually deletes the account Dec 22 13:44:02 i had previously attempted to deleted the account when it was my default account, which caused an issue Dec 22 13:44:18 wierd Dec 22 13:44:29 restart the phone and try again Dec 22 13:44:53 however, after restarting, i changed the default account, then restarted again, now when i attempt to delete the account, the same issue occurs Dec 22 13:45:14 i just did again Dec 22 13:45:21 and the issue is persistent Dec 22 13:45:36 i believe it was caused by the fact that i attempted to delete the default account Dec 22 13:46:10 however, i'm not "stuck" and fear that I'll have to reimage the phone and start fresh (which I guess isn't a big deal) Dec 22 13:46:35 branded: what about updating the phone os? Dec 22 13:47:10 I am running 1.3.1 Dec 22 13:47:13 is there a later version released? Dec 22 13:47:19 (sprint CDMA) Dec 22 13:47:44 op! Dec 22 13:47:54 seems like I was too impatient! (of course) Dec 22 13:47:59 "removed account" Dec 22 13:48:02 i think I'm good Dec 22 13:48:03 :) Dec 22 13:48:06 thanks guys Dec 22 13:48:07 have a good day Dec 22 14:50:31 im back Dec 22 14:51:00 welcome back Dec 22 15:26:26 morning Dec 22 15:28:12 morning Dec 22 15:30:25 if you have a text widget with hinttext, and then update the value of the textfield by changing the model, and do a model change. why doesnt the hint text go away? Dec 22 15:40:44 Bmyers apparently the said that hinttext only disappears after keystrokes? Dec 22 15:41:22 seems so. i thought it would depend on if .value wasnt null or not Dec 22 15:41:58 Bmyers: it shouldnt show when you do it i dont think mines did Dec 22 15:42:03 i found an answer anyways.. Dec 22 15:42:16 which eas Dec 22 15:42:17 was Dec 22 15:42:34 dont use the hinttext option Dec 22 15:42:47 lol Dec 22 15:42:51 it worked! Dec 22 15:59:05 Bmyers: you where able to change the hinttext dynamically? Dec 22 16:00:32 hello all anyone heard or no if there is a app in the works for airfare? Dec 22 16:00:59 LoneStar34 i believe its in the model, rightr? Dec 22 16:01:08 oh sorry, thought u were asking Dec 22 16:01:54 LS34: no, i decide to 86 the hinttext. it's in the attrib so .. Dec 22 16:02:31 yeah Bmyers: was told the attributes can not be changed dynamically Dec 22 17:06:37 morn'n sugardave Dec 22 17:15:57 how do you get the App Catalog URL of your app? Dec 22 17:18:12 yetdog: click on "share" and send it to your email. Dec 22 17:18:23 thanks :) Dec 22 17:25:42 considering making my one paid app free and using admob Dec 22 17:26:12 anyone have any experience w/ admob? Dec 22 17:32:34 yes, Doc Lee and sugardave have a lot of experiance. Dec 22 17:32:39 nice :) Dec 22 17:32:44 oooh just saw an interesting bit of news on engadget Dec 22 17:32:51 and they say it pretty much sucks yetdog Dec 22 17:33:01 unreal engine 3 running on iPhone, will be announcing it running on "entirely different mobile platform" come CES :) Dec 22 17:33:30 the problem is, thousands and thousands of apps running, and only hundreds of advertisers, so at one point sugardave was seeing add fill rates under 1% Dec 22 17:33:47 oh yuck Dec 22 17:34:35 talk to sugardav1 he has a solution Dec 22 17:34:44 PING sugardav1 Dec 22 17:34:45 :) Dec 22 17:34:48 thanks rick Dec 22 17:35:23 sugardav1 has written a back-end cloud based server that just rotates amoung a big LIST of ad providers until it FINDS one that will serve up an ad for you. Dec 22 17:35:39 oh wow. is that integrated w/ admob? Dec 22 17:35:47 admob is part of his list Dec 22 17:35:58 you have to set up accounts with each f his providers. Dec 22 17:36:02 you need to talk to him Dec 22 17:36:03 ah ok gotcha Dec 22 17:36:04 thanks :) Dec 22 17:40:05 Also if you see reality911 (Doc Lee) on chat with him, he knows everything there is to know about mobile advertising. Dec 22 18:09:13 is the app catalog "down"? Dec 22 18:10:48 all i'm trying to do is get this damn radio app... i just deleted both of my email addresses to free up space in /var and now the app catalog is "unavailable" Dec 22 18:10:57 sacks of crap! Dec 22 18:11:16 <_ivanst_> radio app? Dec 22 18:11:29 radiotime Dec 22 18:12:15 (reportedly not in the catalog search index, but accessible via> explore> music>radio/broadcasts) Dec 22 18:15:14 lol Dec 22 18:15:29 are you saying that sprint and palm are doing it for the lulz? Dec 22 18:15:50 just to frustrate me? Dec 22 18:15:58 (:D) Dec 22 18:16:06 <_ivanst_> fuck Dec 22 18:16:15 can't get it, right? Dec 22 18:16:20 <_ivanst_> nope Dec 22 18:16:34 i think a crazy amount of people downloaded it Dec 22 18:16:41 and sprints network was taking a hit Dec 22 18:16:50 and palm and sprint conspired Dec 22 18:17:10 * branded retrieves tin foil hat Dec 22 18:17:43 <_ivanst_> but what i meant, also: what has gone wrong with the world? is there nowhere that i can go that there will be no (other) /b/tards there? Dec 22 18:18:06 the cancer is everywhere Dec 22 18:18:07 hah... i'm in recovery Dec 22 18:18:22 anyway... yea, so you can't get access to the app Dec 22 18:18:29 _ivanst_: same error? Dec 22 18:18:35 <_ivanst_> yup Dec 22 18:18:36 i just downloaded radiotime Dec 22 18:18:42 but it didn't show up in search Dec 22 18:18:49 yea, this is weird Dec 22 18:18:58 ambackstrom: which market are you in? Dec 22 18:19:10 US Dec 22 18:19:26 could you be more specific Dec 22 18:19:31 as in metro area, possibly? Dec 22 18:19:34 New Hampshire Dec 22 18:19:35 i'm in NYC Dec 22 18:19:41 nowhere near metro Dec 22 18:19:47 right, okay Dec 22 18:19:49 interesting Dec 22 18:19:58 very funky Dec 22 18:20:13 anyway... ambackstrom any idea how you can copy the app off the phone? Dec 22 18:20:16 is that even possible? Dec 22 18:20:37 pretty sure the app gets stored in a protected partition Dec 22 18:20:47 ahh okay Dec 22 18:20:56 maybe over ssh if it saved the ipk Dec 22 18:21:06 yea, the ipk Dec 22 18:21:20 but how can you do that? Dec 22 18:21:41 wget? Dec 22 18:21:53 i think the app catalog requires authentication Dec 22 18:23:05 no sure though Dec 22 18:23:51 mine doesn't appear to save ipk packages. not sure what the eula says about all this anyway Dec 22 18:26:28 I'd ate to bug people here but this is the only place I could find any reference for help with komodoedit. I have a local file, just this one file, that when I try to access it komodo edit locks up for some amount of time then resumes fine till I save or do any other file io and I can't figure out why Dec 22 18:27:18 that's very weird theshadow if you take that file, and copy it to a different name Myfile_2.txt or something, can you open it and save it normally? Dec 22 18:28:42 Rick_work: yes, it works fine. Dec 22 18:29:01 theshadow then you've got a bad sector or something. Dec 22 18:36:05 there's still no way to see the download count of our apps huh? Dec 22 18:36:17 with the patch Dec 22 18:36:20 except for a patch on the.. ya Dec 22 18:36:24 damn Dec 22 18:36:29 or a callhome Dec 22 18:36:36 hm? Dec 22 18:36:36 webosschool now has a website that shows download counts Dec 22 18:36:40 hold on Dec 22 18:36:42 woooo!! Dec 22 18:37:07 I got featured yesterday Dec 22 18:37:09 stoked Dec 22 18:37:13 ok im abckl Dec 22 18:37:14 * pandora-- dances Dec 22 18:37:29 atlanta: was that supposed to be 'back'? Dec 22 18:37:36 yea oops lol Dec 22 18:37:42 wow Dec 22 18:37:43 lol Dec 22 18:37:53 no more coffee for you Dec 22 18:38:30 i know Dec 22 18:38:37 opps no coffee in my life Dec 22 18:38:39 orange juice Dec 22 18:38:45 and sweet tea :-) Dec 22 18:38:52 http://catalog.webosschool.com/#main Dec 22 18:38:53 pandora--, http://catalog.webosschool.com/#main Dec 22 18:39:24 hey, saw my name earlier Dec 22 18:39:32 hi dave Dec 22 18:39:37 yetdog: my cloud thing isn't QUITE as sophisticated as Rick said ;) Dec 22 18:39:54 but, I can definitely help you with questions Dec 22 18:39:58 Rick_work: hey :D Dec 22 18:40:28 * sugardave just got his first Palm payment. Dec 22 18:40:37 now I can do my last-minute Christmas shopping :D Dec 22 18:41:22 my first one came yesterday Dec 22 18:41:57 yetdog: it was more of a system I was testing out that would enable a dev to come in and provide their publisher details for different ad networks I support...then that enables you to switch providers on the fly...of course, I never got around to writing the front end, so it's all manually handled by me atm Dec 22 18:42:20 Rick_work: I was pleasantly surprised Dec 22 18:46:15 sugardave: me too! Dec 22 18:46:25 just 2 days ago or so Dec 22 18:46:30 wooooooooot Dec 22 18:46:35 Rick_work: Alright I just rebooted and did a fsck. Same problem. Dec 22 18:48:00 pandora--: awesome Dec 22 18:49:00 interesting Dec 22 18:49:06 how are they pulling this info Dec 22 18:49:44 time to dig around Dec 22 18:49:46 atlanta: hmmm? Dec 22 18:50:42 sugardave: i added my help scene lmao :-) Dec 22 18:50:54 atlanta: you need it :D Dec 22 18:51:22 i noticed after the fact lol but i reuploaded it last night Dec 22 18:51:30 being reviewed right now lets see how it goe Dec 22 18:51:34 sgoes Dec 22 18:51:35 does it let you re-upload ipks now? Dec 22 18:51:41 yup Dec 22 18:51:44 ah, nifty Dec 22 18:51:53 the reviewer puts it in a rejected status u just click the update button and reupload Dec 22 18:52:08 * sugardave broke his nduid tracker in the last Yule Log update. "Sad panda." Dec 22 18:52:14 ut oh Dec 22 18:52:21 sugardave, lol Dec 22 18:52:24 atlanta: ah, yeah I'm familiar with that process ;) Dec 22 18:52:26 sugardave: they need to really work on the form stuff its inconsistent Dec 22 18:52:49 my update finally pushed, and my nduid tracker is working gret Dec 22 18:52:52 i swear stuff that would take a regular programer to fix takes them forever Dec 22 18:52:52 great Dec 22 18:53:15 need to hire me at $50 an hour and ill have it smooth Dec 22 18:53:15 * sugardave blows raspberries at dawm_. Dec 22 18:53:21 sugardave: ah yule log is yours, cool :) Dec 22 18:53:32 any reason why a large ontained within a drawer would only have a background for so many rows, then change to transparent? Dec 22 18:53:35 a large list* Dec 22 18:53:44 large list contained* Dec 22 18:53:51 have any of you used ares? Dec 22 18:53:57 g073nks: soso Dec 22 18:53:57 g073nks: I've tried Dec 22 18:53:58 why Dec 22 18:53:58 ? Dec 22 18:54:15 i like using komodo better but its a nicel looking interface :-) Dec 22 18:54:26 i'm using it, but i don't know if i like the fact it doesn't use the scene file Dec 22 18:54:36 what u mean Dec 22 18:54:36 ? Dec 22 18:54:49 u can use the scene file if u want Dec 22 18:54:53 i'm really curious about ares, but haven't tried it yet Dec 22 18:54:59 it's using a chrom file when you create it on there Dec 22 18:55:02 yea Dec 22 18:55:10 to use the tools they provided u have to use chrome Dec 22 18:55:18 is there anyway to edit the chrom file once you download it? Dec 22 18:55:31 see y'all in a while Dec 22 18:55:34 g073nks: if u understand the json they used yes Dec 22 18:55:37 sugardave_shop: ttyl Dec 22 18:55:41 buy me a present Dec 22 18:56:08 so it's still simple (fairly) text editing Dec 22 18:56:22 just not html Dec 22 18:57:08 ummm i didnt exactly look at the chrome file yet but i know it uses json to interpret the things you place within ares Dec 22 18:57:50 if u take a look at it and understand whats going on and corresponds to what you did in ares then go for it Dec 22 18:57:58 anyone have any experience with list within drawer rendering? Dec 22 18:59:01 hmmm Dec 22 18:59:09 i think i did that in my app Dec 22 18:59:10 you can mix html and chrome Dec 22 18:59:23 not a dynamic list though Dec 22 19:00:01 pandora-- i have a list, for example, that's 1400+ items long Dec 22 19:00:12 wow Dec 22 19:00:14 http://cdn.downloads.palm.com/public/396/en/images/2/L/ibored_2009-04-11_171026.jpg Dec 22 19:00:16 and after probably a couple hundred rows, the background just goes away Dec 22 19:00:23 and the list items are transparent Dec 22 19:00:28 thats all mine is, just 3 in a group, in a drawer Dec 22 19:00:41 not sure if that counts :) Dec 22 19:00:45 hehe Dec 22 19:00:58 just not sure why it stops applying the backgound on the list items after a certain length Dec 22 19:01:03 seems like a big Dec 22 19:01:05 bug* Dec 22 19:01:17 big bug Dec 22 19:05:33 yetdog: do you have it on repeat lol Dec 22 19:05:33 ? Dec 22 19:05:45 have what on repeat? Dec 22 19:05:59 was a joke Dec 22 19:06:04 but speaking of the background Dec 22 19:06:08 lol whoosh, missed it :) Dec 22 19:07:28 yeah, its weird Dec 22 19:09:25 Hell is Chuqui watching Dec 22 19:09:28 hello Dec 22 19:09:43 I like to watch.... Dec 22 19:10:41 My device has suffered a catastrophic failure, is their a way to access the media partition on the device somehow Dec 22 19:10:51 I think a key sequence was mentioned before Dec 22 19:12:31 chuqui: That can be taken in such the wrong way. Dec 22 19:12:39 disregard - the device came back up again Dec 22 19:12:47 it can? (innocent look) Dec 22 19:12:50 I have sepparation of screen from base Dec 22 19:13:26 hanging by three flat connectors and a spring Dec 22 19:14:13 It wouldnt power on :/ until I asked... Dec 22 19:14:23 chuqui are you aware of any bugs in list background rendering w/in a drawer on large lists? as in, inside an expanded drawer, after a certain amount of list items, the background of the list turns transparent Dec 22 19:16:27 not off the top of my head Dec 22 19:17:15 <_ivanst_> chuqui: you work for palm? that's great. do you folks have any reported bugs related to data type coversion errors in download service? Dec 22 19:17:16 how do you cancel a mojo.service.request? Dec 22 19:17:47 Thanks chuqui - I got my data back, sorry for getting everyone to ask you questions Dec 22 19:18:34 yes, I work for palm. No, that doesn't ring a bell -- suggest asking in the palm developer forums (developer.palm.com) Dec 22 19:19:14 <_ivanst_> chuqui: i already searched the forums, but no mention. i think i need to prepare a simple test case to demonstrate the problem... Dec 22 19:19:24 taht'd definitely help Dec 22 19:20:37 * _ivanst_ goes to work... Dec 22 19:20:43 spispopd Dec 22 19:20:52 pkz204g Dec 22 19:21:16 * PrototypicLaptop 's bored... palm accept my app already Dec 22 19:22:06 doinapps: hi Dec 22 19:24:17 Kesne hi Dec 22 19:24:40 CTLAdvance: did u get the combo key Dec 22 19:24:40 ? Dec 22 19:24:47 sym orange + U i believe Dec 22 19:25:04 nevermind read what u said Dec 22 19:25:06 The device powered back up by suprise Dec 22 19:25:11 yeah Dec 22 19:25:16 same thing happen to me the other day Dec 22 19:25:22 screen didnt come on then #BAM Dec 22 19:25:30 put back in the battery and it was back to normal Dec 22 19:25:37 does anyone know how to run the pixie and pre VMs at the same time and install the apps in both VMs? once I use palm-install it only work for one VM Dec 22 19:25:39 thats after it took a plunge onto ice, and then fell into a glass of water... Dec 22 19:26:02 Yeah but my device is hangin by its internal spring completely separate from the back side Dec 22 19:26:03 CTLAdvance: darn Dec 22 19:26:09 CTLAdvance: HARD ASS CONCRETE here lol Dec 22 19:26:15 lol Dec 22 19:26:32 oy... what a way for 500 cash to go... thank goodness for the tep Dec 22 19:27:14 yup yup Dec 22 19:27:55 <_ivanst_> doinapps: you can use -d switch on SDK commands to pick which device you want to target Dec 22 19:45:48 doinapps: You can't install apps in both at the same time, because they are actually different virtual machines. Dec 22 19:46:56 You can run them both side-by-side, but the installer will install in the first one it finds. Dec 22 19:47:55 to run them side by side you just have to open the sun virtualbox control panel. Dec 22 19:49:48 blah stylematter stinks sometimes Dec 22 19:49:48 doinapps: batch file FTW Dec 22 19:49:53 ex: RADIO BUTTONS Dec 22 19:50:20 stylematters, documentation doesnt.. Dec 22 19:50:40 word Dec 22 19:52:07 documentation has some hiccups Dec 22 20:00:00 like being non-existant? Dec 22 20:00:05 Some of us are working on that. Dec 22 20:02:01 Anyone here using a refurbed pre Dec 22 20:07:50 I think my fiancee's Pre might be a refurb, but I'm not sure. Dec 22 20:08:33 can someone here check to see if FMLpro is in the catalog? Dec 22 20:08:47 I've tried using -d to switch de device but i don't know what name to type to choose between the two resolutions Dec 22 20:09:08 nope Dec 22 20:09:13 adora i dont see it Dec 22 20:09:15 as I thought Dec 22 20:09:16 grrr Dec 22 20:09:17 thx Dec 22 20:09:39 should you sayfml? Dec 22 20:09:41 adora it shows up on webosschool's catalog viewer Dec 22 20:09:55 Austin Cameron Dec 22 20:09:58 they have a catalog viewer? Dec 22 20:10:00 link? Dec 22 20:10:15 http://catalog.webosschool.com/ Dec 22 20:10:31 well I'll be doggone Dec 22 20:10:48 you understand what they've done...... Dec 22 20:10:48 Thats odd Dec 22 20:10:52 out shined palm on that one Dec 22 20:10:57 I see 2 more that I dont see on my device Dec 22 20:11:29 CTLAdvance: which ones? Dec 22 20:11:32 they back-door'ed the app cat app on an actual device, and took the list functionality, and pulled it into a different app, grab the list every now and then, Dec 22 20:11:42 _ivanst_:do you know what is the name of the devies I try to put the same name as written on the VM but it dosen Dec 22 20:11:52 _ivanst_:dosen't work Dec 22 20:11:55 and then grab the individual apps info daily and dump it via ajax into a db on their web server...... Dec 22 20:12:06 Rick_work: you hit it Dec 22 20:12:08 which then allows them "flexability..... Dec 22 20:12:17 i just unpacked there js interesting Dec 22 20:12:24 tsk tsk Dec 22 20:12:42 palm needs to learn if they dont get the ball rolling another company will :-( Dec 22 20:13:37 fml pro doesnt show Dec 22 20:13:41 lyht: i know i can't install at the same time but i wanted to choose which one to install because having to start the VM only to test on both devices takes to long Dec 22 20:13:44 one word Dec 22 20:13:44 well its finally about that time for me to leave work Dec 22 20:13:45 not sure on the other Dec 22 20:13:45 and go home Dec 22 20:13:48 shows fine Dec 22 20:14:04 rick work Dec 22 20:14:14 shows in webos schools, not in device Dec 22 20:14:29 weird Dec 22 20:14:39 doinapps: they use java to get the id or something like that Dec 22 20:14:43 ill be home in a few to check it out Dec 22 20:14:49 thanks for the link btw rick Dec 22 20:29:29 hoping that the "totally different mobile arch" that will be unvieled to be running unreal engine 3 will be the pre :) Dec 22 20:29:39 @ CES Dec 22 20:32:56 mmm unreal engine pre I mean 3 Dec 22 20:33:18 yetdog want to bet $5 on android? Dec 22 20:33:52 android isnt a totally different mobile arch Dec 22 20:34:02 its still linux core Dec 22 20:34:10 Windows 7 Dec 22 20:34:13 mobile Dec 22 20:34:25 :) Dec 22 20:58:06 webOS is still linux core. Dec 22 21:03:06 Yep... Thats why I said windows 7 mobile :) Its based on a newly developed version of ce Dec 22 21:03:26 or WM7 either way Dec 22 21:16:35 weird. if i have a div, and in the div class i have float:right, why won't my radiobutton div, which is contained in the float right div, align to the right? Dec 22 21:17:51 it stays on the left :( Dec 22 21:17:56 because you cant style a radiobutton Dec 22 21:18:02 I tried Dec 22 21:18:05 but the div its contained in Dec 22 21:18:11 Didnt matter Dec 22 21:18:13 wow Dec 22 21:18:19 so its stuck where it is by default no matter what/ Dec 22 21:18:29 From what I understand yes Dec 22 21:18:32 holy shit Dec 22 21:18:34 pardon my french Dec 22 21:18:38 that *sucks* Dec 22 21:18:51 I mean horizontally yes Dec 22 21:19:41 yeah, i want a label next to it Dec 22 21:20:26 doesnt seem to want anything else on its horizontal line Dec 22 21:20:55 CTLAdvance you CAN style a radio button, it's just hard. Dec 22 21:21:34 ideally, id like it to be something like: Dec 22 21:21:45 Label: Dec 22 21:21:48 all on the same line Dec 22 21:23:23 rick work care to enlighten us Dec 22 21:23:30 I havent been able to Dec 22 21:24:06 CTLAdvance use inspector to drill into the object and find the classes. Then overwrite their styling Dec 22 21:24:12 it's not THAT hard. Dec 22 21:24:28 We changed the 3 button radio button to a vertical stack that way. Dec 22 21:24:54 ah ok Dec 22 21:25:09 got that yetdod Dec 22 21:25:15 yeah... Dec 22 21:25:16 what he said Dec 22 21:27:25 hi question about cookies Dec 22 21:27:29 do you have the palm-mojo-styling css excel spreadsheet reverence? Dec 22 21:27:51 i think i have looke at that Dec 22 21:28:10 Rjtaylor what do you want about cookies? Dec 22 21:28:16 i do rick, will check it Dec 22 21:28:31 yetdog radio button is .palm-radiobutton in global.css Dec 22 21:28:41 I have an app that uses a cookie setting to decide which scean to start with Dec 22 21:28:48 k Dec 22 21:28:50 it works fine except.. Dec 22 21:28:53 k Dec 22 21:28:59 on the first start Dec 22 21:29:11 when the cookie doesn't exist..... Dec 22 21:29:22 so do you have a Dec 22 21:29:28 so if i wanna change it, rick..i add another class called something like, "newradio" Dec 22 21:29:29 set the float Dec 22 21:29:34 and then in the class of the button object Dec 22 21:29:41 yes i guess that is it i thought i was setting it up in stage ass setup Dec 22 21:29:42 class="palm-radiobutton newradio"? Dec 22 21:29:45 mycookieobject = mycookie.get() Dec 22 21:30:06 or jiust set up my own .palm-radiobutton and set the float in that? Dec 22 21:30:12 and then you do if (mycookieobjject === undefined) {make it because it's never been defined before.} Dec 22 21:30:29 override .palm-radiobutton with your own definition. Dec 22 21:30:34 nice Dec 22 21:30:51 morning Dec 22 21:31:22 .palm-radiobutton { Dec 22 21:31:22 float: right; Dec 22 21:31:22 } Dec 22 21:31:26 that, that doesnt work :( Dec 22 21:31:54 yetdog again I say, use the inspector. Dec 22 21:32:04 earlier was messing with trying to add a new background to the text field, but to no success, has anyone done it successfully? Dec 22 21:32:15 find the classes that are applying to your object and what the inherited css is. Dec 22 21:32:38 ok so then i tried if ??? === undefined this.controller.pushScene('FullCounter'); else { this.controller.pushScene(MTG.SceenStartValue); } } Dec 22 21:32:59 no luck with that either Dec 22 21:33:53 Rjtaylor webos.pastebin.com paste your code so we can see it in context, and paste the link back here Dec 22 21:34:27 ok thanks brb Dec 22 21:34:30 now i just gotta work on getting my app started in inspector mode lol (working w/ eclipse) Dec 22 21:35:17 yetdog, you can use the command line tools. Dec 22 21:35:24 yep. found eclipse also Dec 22 21:37:48 yetdog! Dec 22 21:39:03 kesne! Dec 22 21:39:13 I think i did it right here it is http://webos.pastebin.com/m65380a50 Dec 22 21:40:16 rick i see the class being applied, but my stuff doesnt seem to be overriding it? Dec 22 21:40:21 it shows up in there Dec 22 21:40:27 in the inspector) Dec 22 21:41:49 Rjtaylor in your line 13 you put a staart screen. Dec 22 21:42:25 Rjtaylor but in your line 28 you push mt.screenstartvalue and if your cookie was undefined, if you got to line 13, you never defined that variable. Dec 22 21:42:42 you need to make a line 14 that defines mtg.screenstartvalue Dec 22 21:43:10 ha. even shows as overridden (line thru their designation that i changed) Dec 22 21:43:41 so, there's something else..... Dec 22 21:44:53 ok thanks i will be back after i try it Dec 22 21:46:12 it has a clear attribute Dec 22 21:46:19 that would be why it wont allow something to float Dec 22 21:46:34 to straight remove sometihng from CSS by overriding, how is that done? Dec 22 21:46:49 clear:"" Dec 22 21:47:01 so it's clear neither Dec 22 21:47:35 or is there a clear:none? I don't know Dec 22 21:48:01 none Dec 22 21:48:01 rick line 13 is actually line 12 i was trying different ideas waiil that work Dec 22 21:48:02 thanks :0 Dec 22 21:48:18 Rick_work: you ever replaced the default text field image with a custom one? Dec 22 21:48:57 Rjtaylor if you use the line 12 you have, there STILL is no value set for mtg.screenstartvalue Dec 22 21:49:13 you need a line that says "MTG.ScreenStartValue = "FullCounter" Dec 22 21:49:26 ok Dec 22 21:50:13 that is in the LstData.js file but i am guesing that that is not read at this point in the app lifecycle right Dec 22 21:50:55 listdata.js is listed in sources? Dec 22 21:51:48 yes and it is changed by a pref scean which works except when run as a first aunch Dec 22 21:53:13 ok, so, if you comment out the entire cookie thing, and just do pushscene(MTG.....) then you get fullcounter scene? Dec 22 21:53:50 yes Dec 22 21:54:19 huh Dec 22 21:54:28 wait let me try Dec 22 21:54:31 ok.... then that's just weird..... Dec 22 21:58:21 sorry no that does not work what does work is if i set the initial value to this.controller.pushScene('FullCounter'); then change the MTG.SceenStartValue from the pref setting and then chang the push line to this.controller.pushScene(MTG.SceenStartValue); the app opens without any problems and as expected Dec 22 21:59:01 so mtg.screenstartvalue isn't set at this point Dec 22 21:59:24 no i think not Dec 22 21:59:26 so if you put that in the if, and set it in the if if the get is undefined, then you're frosty. Dec 22 22:00:16 I have been trying that but i apparently cant quite figure it out Dec 22 22:00:32 in the if you can't just do Dec 22 22:00:50 "MTG.ScreenStartValue = "Fullscreen" ???? Dec 22 22:01:27 brb Dec 22 22:05:33 ok rick added this if (SceenStartValue.get() == undefined) MTG.SceenStartValue = "Full Counters", SceenStartValue.put(MTG.SceenStartValue) //SceenStartValue.put('FullCounter'); else { MTG.SceenStartValue=SceenStartValue.get() } Dec 22 22:05:39 and no luck Dec 22 22:06:14 there's at least one { mssing from what you just pasted, perhaps more. Dec 22 22:06:48 oh maybe thats it want me to put in in the code page Dec 22 22:07:29 http://webos.pastebin.com/m2b650a29 Dec 22 22:12:25 Rjtaylor on what you pasted.... Dec 22 22:12:38 there needs to be a { at the end of line 1. Dec 22 22:12:46 and there needs to be a } before the else. Dec 22 22:13:00 thanks Dec 22 22:13:03 and line 2 should end with a semicolon not a comma Dec 22 22:13:10 and line 3 needs a semi-colon Dec 22 22:13:18 and line 7 needs a semicolon Dec 22 22:13:43 Rjtaylor have you ever used jsbeautify or jslint? Dec 22 22:13:56 http://jsbeautifier.org/ Dec 22 22:14:23 and jslint.com Dec 22 22:14:26 use them. :-) Dec 22 22:14:32 although jslint will make you cry. Dec 22 22:18:41 hehe no have not used yet but will look at any way just made thoes changes and it still did not work i will now pust the whole setup again Dec 22 22:22:58 http://webos.pastebin.com/m15bb5240 Dec 22 22:25:02 line 36 needs a { and line 38 needs a } Dec 22 22:25:37 thanks Dec 22 22:28:07 anyone know if javascript has something similar to PHP "error_reporting(0);" ??? Dec 22 22:28:30 line 63 has an extra comma Dec 22 22:29:58 Rjtaylor http://webos.pastebin.com/m3101d6e3 Dec 22 22:30:49 I don't know LoneStar34 what does that do? Dec 22 22:32:21 Rick made changes as you typed them and the funny thing is the last change kinda worked on first run it still hung but just starting the app again produced a working mdel Dec 22 22:32:53 Rick_work: it withholds any errors from being displayed on the screen Dec 22 22:33:31 Rjtaylor that's because on second run you had a cookie Dec 22 22:34:05 is there a way to make the cookie ther on first run Dec 22 22:34:22 that's what the if is supposed to be doing Dec 22 22:35:04 Rjtaylor move the cookie lines (12 and 13) inside the stage assistant setup Dec 22 22:37:04 did that still same issue Dec 22 22:38:39 weird. Dec 22 22:38:50 ok, Rjtaylor do you know how to use Mojo.Log.error() ? Dec 22 22:39:11 no not really Dec 22 22:39:25 just above the first if, put Dec 22 22:39:45 Mojo.Log.error("Got to 1"); Dec 22 22:40:04 then just inside the if, got to 2, and then just before the else, got to 3, and so on down through the program Dec 22 22:40:20 just above your pushscene do Dec 22 22:40:45 Mojo.Log.error("Scene should be " + MTG.SceenStartValue); Dec 22 22:40:50 then, run the app Dec 22 22:40:55 and go to a command line and type Dec 22 22:41:13 palm-log com.mydomain.myapp replacing that with your actual domain and app name Dec 22 22:41:22 and it will print out the log, and you can see what happened..... Dec 22 22:41:45 thanks i will try it now Dec 22 22:48:44 its not gonna work unless framework_config.json has the proper info Dec 22 22:50:14 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1725 Dec 22 22:50:27 dawm_ good point Dec 22 22:50:58 what info is that Dec 22 22:51:13 hello Dec 22 22:51:18 I need help Dec 22 22:51:31 Rjtaylor, the link i posted has all the instructions Dec 22 22:51:42 thanks Dec 22 22:51:45 can anyone help me? Dec 22 22:51:57 bmed, if it's the same problem you're talking about in webos-internals, then no one here is going to be better than there. Dec 22 22:52:03 I'm really sorry to say that. Dec 22 22:53:08 lol okay I just thought ppl here would know if its a phone issue rather than a software issue Dec 22 22:56:15 well i dont have the framework_config.json set up but I did get a rather long list after running that command Dec 22 22:57:16 did you get error lines that said "got to 1" etc? Dec 22 23:01:55 yes and the only thing that seems to be of importance is that Scene should be Full Counters and then it says full counters not defined Dec 22 23:02:52 Rjtaylor what EXACTLY does the error say? Dec 22 23:03:07 does it have that space in it? Dec 22 23:07:36 The Scene 'Full Counters' could not be pushed because an exception occurred Dec 22 23:08:26 I am such an idiot i dont need the space hang on a sc Dec 22 23:08:33 What's the name of the scene assistant and htmml files? and what's the value of the variable. ??? Dec 22 23:08:38 spaces are evil. Dec 22 23:11:13 FullCounter-scene.html Dec 22 23:12:06 AHHHHHHHHH Dec 22 23:12:16 And does the variable name have the caps in it? Dec 22 23:12:25 because of course, linux is case sensitive. Dec 22 23:12:50 ((( I've learned not to put caps in a scene name. PITA ))) Dec 22 23:15:42 ok that was it i need to test now but added an s and a space man i am an idiot thanks for all your help Dec 22 23:22:47 heading home bbl Dec 22 23:48:54 hi Doc, FoxFireX Dec 22 23:49:00 Heyas. Dec 22 23:49:34 hows it going out there? Dec 22 23:49:48 Trying to get started packing for a flight tomorrow. Dec 22 23:49:54 Can't find the lockbox for the petsitter. :P Dec 22 23:50:15 fluffy cant feed herself while u r gone? Dec 22 23:50:17 Catching up on the forums as I try to figure out where it might have wandered off to. Dec 22 23:50:40 Well, it's four cats total, so I imagine at least one of them would feed itself. The others wouldn't fare so well. Dec 22 23:51:00 psh, just take them with you Dec 22 23:51:01 u running a cat house? Dec 22 23:51:03 that's what I'm doing Dec 22 23:51:08 * Mousey perks up Dec 22 23:51:26 granted, I just have one Dec 22 23:51:38 FoxFireX is just the piano player.. Dec 22 23:51:42 Wasn't intentional. First was "Let's get a cat." Second was "She needs a friend." Third was "Hey, look what I found at work!" Fourth actually adopted us. Dec 22 23:52:04 Adora: Yeah, four cats on a plane, *that's* a good idea. :) Dec 22 23:52:06 excuse the pun but, flying with cats is a PITA Dec 22 23:52:38 they wont even do it. 2 per plane.. Dec 22 23:52:41 I'm lucky, mine's a sweetheart Dec 22 23:52:46 she gets cranky in the car, though Dec 22 23:52:57 Bmyers: depends on the airline Dec 22 23:53:00 All our cats are sweet. At times. Dec 22 23:53:22 I called southwest to reserve mine and they said there's not a limit, just show up with her and pay the extra money Dec 22 23:53:41 even on persian kittys? Dec 22 23:53:52 iono, they didn't ask Dec 22 23:55:02 who's flying where for the holidays? Dec 22 23:55:33 arkansas! \o/ Dec 22 23:55:35 * FoxFireX is off to South Carolina. Dec 22 23:55:43 * FoxFireX used to live in Arkansas. Dec 22 23:56:03 shouldnt arkansas and kansas rhyme? Dec 22 23:56:13 * rwhitby wonders if there is anything new in my 372-app-strong frankenstein CDMA Sprint app catalog profile running on GSM Pre today that's worth paying for. Still haven't spent my $25 visa debit card ... Dec 22 23:56:30 First day after we moved to Arkansas, my next door neighbor told me it was against the law to pronounce it as if it rhymed with Kansas. Dec 22 23:56:47 FoxFireX: this is correct Dec 22 23:57:14 strict down there huh? Dec 22 23:57:42 what the first thing you'll do when you get back there? Dec 22 23:57:44 Since 1881, apparently. Dec 22 23:57:55 gotta do what we can to keep those damn dirty kansans at bay Dec 22 23:58:47 ATLANTA IN FLA!!! Dec 22 23:59:07 man, I wish we had a tripit app Dec 22 23:59:26 tripit? Dec 22 23:59:35 www.tripit.com Dec 22 23:59:41 organizes travel plans Dec 22 23:59:52 * FoxFireX bwahs at the end of the actual Arkansas pronunciation law: "... and the sounding of the terminal ā€œsā€ is an innovation to be discouraged." Dec 22 23:59:59 Bmyers: wsupppp Dec 23 00:00:10 WASSSSUUUPPPPPPPP Dec 23 00:00:16 =) Dec 23 00:00:28 Adora: no api for that site Dec 23 00:00:32 i would have thought about making one Dec 23 00:01:08 Bmyers: nada playing a little cod:mw1 Dec 23 00:01:09 i fly nowhere for the first year in a long many. Stay right here in NY Dec 23 00:01:12 mw2** Dec 23 00:01:40 i'm not even gonna get out of my pj's.. Dec 23 00:01:56 much less have to take my shoes off to get xray'd Dec 23 00:02:17 hey speaking of shoes, is jenp here? Dec 23 00:02:22 that's why I fly barefoot Dec 23 00:02:26 eff that shoe mess Dec 23 00:02:29 there was a shoe app released. wondered if it was her. Dec 23 00:02:56 Adore: ewwwww! airport feet ? Dec 23 00:03:30 Adora: you need some Ug boots .. Dec 23 00:04:04 Adora: these would be convenient for airports: http://blog.al.com/bargain-mom/2009/12/old_navys_adora-boots_15_for_w.html Dec 23 00:04:15 hahaha Dec 23 00:05:21 boot wit da fur! Dec 23 00:06:37 need some of those with webos on them to match the infamous blanket (which I still haven't seen) Dec 23 00:08:07 * FoxFireX goes back to doing his Al Gore impersonation. Dec 23 00:09:11 chuq took a pic Dec 23 00:09:18 I've got some others I haven't posted yet Dec 23 00:09:29 * Adora wrapped up in it right now Dec 23 00:30:06 * FoxFireX found his lockbox! Hooray! Dec 23 02:10:47 *DEAD Dec 23 02:10:50 what is everyone doing Dec 23 02:18:12 just chilling Dec 23 02:21:06 palmcast live Dec 23 02:21:25 * FoxFireX is watching Elf with his wifey. Dec 23 02:24:06 hey atlanta Dec 23 02:24:57 * Bmyers watching inglourious Bastards Dec 23 02:25:40 * reality9110 is still trying to find some place to go on vacatio Dec 23 02:25:41 n Dec 23 02:32:11 palmcast? Dec 23 02:33:27 ah Dec 23 02:37:45 hi all! Dec 23 02:44:27 * dawm_ watching home alone Dec 23 02:47:19 Hey Jenp Dec 23 02:47:32 hey Bmyers Dec 23 02:47:32 hey did u c the shoe app? Dec 23 02:48:23 no Dec 23 02:48:28 what app? Dec 23 02:48:33 app cat Dec 23 02:48:42 search shoe i think, Dec 23 02:48:44 kk checking Dec 23 02:49:17 i get an app cat not available error Dec 23 02:49:31 its about shoes as much as hooters resturaunts are about owls i think.. Dec 23 02:50:11 gots bars? Dec 23 02:50:40 lol Dec 23 02:51:12 i made the mistake of going to the mall this last weekend.... Dec 23 02:51:18 scary scary people out Dec 23 02:51:48 its jungle out there.. Dec 23 02:52:09 nk Dec 23 02:53:18 if ur SO inet, why not cybershop? Dec 23 02:53:52 i do...i've got amazon as my home page Dec 23 02:54:12 ok, thats a red flag right there.. Dec 23 02:54:30 follow up question Dec 23 02:54:41 kk Dec 23 02:54:46 what was your motivation in writing debt free? Dec 23 02:55:20 i was doing the budget and spoke to my daughter about interest Dec 23 02:55:36 she didn't really understand why you wouldn't want credit cards Dec 23 02:56:01 as we talked i realized her and many of her friends though you only had to pay interest once Dec 23 02:56:35 then i noticed my bf didn't quite get it either Dec 23 02:56:37 "The most powerful force in the universe is compound interest". Albert Einstein Dec 23 02:56:47 trapped in min. pay loop Dec 23 02:56:49 totally Dec 23 02:57:06 but kids don't get it..even young adults Dec 23 02:57:21 and they're giving CC to younger and younger age groups... Dec 23 02:57:33 so anyway...that was my motivation...why? Dec 23 02:58:05 just curious. Dec 23 02:58:13 i like to ask ppl that about their apps. Dec 23 02:58:24 kk Dec 23 02:58:52 plus i like the app...everytime i get tempted to put something on credit...i checkit out...usually deters me **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Dec 23 02:59:57 2009