**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 27 02:59:56 2009 Dec 27 03:03:45 does anyone have a link to the webos jar file? I'm running x64 and I need to do the manual installation so I can use the webos doctor Dec 27 03:14:05 anyone? Dec 27 03:42:10 GreedyB: these - http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions ? Dec 27 03:48:28 Good lord. I cannot resize this webview Dec 27 03:54:59 hi all! Dec 27 04:59:44 so i have a question about ares Dec 27 05:01:18 the suspense is killing me Dec 27 05:01:21 OH Dec 27 05:01:32 okay so, does Ares not work on Opera at all? Dec 27 05:02:46 good question! Dec 27 05:04:26 okay yeah, so i can't use ares i guess. i don't really understand mojo. i try creating an app but i don't understand how to make a button go to another scene. the best i got to making it go to another scene was Click Dec 27 05:10:56 strange Dec 27 05:10:57 :( Dec 27 05:10:59 i am sorr Dec 27 05:11:00 y Dec 27 05:11:24 do you not know how to make it work with a button? Dec 27 05:12:58 viper have you tried this.controller.stageController.pushScene('SCENE_NAME'); Dec 27 05:14:28 see i don't understand that. where does that go? in the stage-assistant or the First-assistant Dec 27 05:15:00 have you gone through the tutorial? Dec 27 05:15:15 i read through all of it but i didn't understand it. Dec 27 05:16:05 ok. I haven't really played in A Dec 27 05:16:08 res too much Dec 27 05:16:34 alright well right now i'm in mojo Dec 27 05:18:30 are you using the ares web dev environment? Dec 27 05:18:52 uh..no? i'm just using mojo like straight up Dec 27 05:19:22 what are you using to enter your code in? Dec 27 05:19:28 notepad Dec 27 05:19:31 eclipse? ohhh Dec 27 05:19:39 ok let's make life easier for you Dec 27 05:20:05 have you downloaded the sdk? Dec 27 05:20:10 I cannot believe that there is actually a pharma that chose the name Aciphex for their drug... Dec 27 05:20:28 yeah i have Dec 27 05:20:48 ok how about an sdk tool...eclipse, komodo? Dec 27 05:21:03 Doc what's wrong with Aciphex? is it a bad name? Dec 27 05:21:08 no idea what those are. Dec 27 05:21:15 It's pronounced Ass-effects Dec 27 05:21:24 OMG that's great Dec 27 05:21:32 vilpo go here http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Portal:Tools Dec 27 05:21:33 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TId5izj6cHQ Dec 27 05:21:53 download komodo edit, then install templarians add on. Dec 27 05:22:18 wait so are komodo and eclipse like the same thing but different? Dec 27 05:22:31 like the difference between like notepad and wordpad? Dec 27 05:22:36 Kind of Dec 27 05:22:39 different development applications...i just like komodo better Dec 27 05:22:43 They are both development environments Dec 27 05:22:49 Komodo is much faster Dec 27 05:22:59 doc that's great Dec 27 05:24:19 doc did you get your hotel? Dec 27 05:30:12 JenP: Yes Dec 27 05:41:34 * Templarian grins. Dec 27 05:41:56 Anybody know how to resize a webview? Dec 27 05:46:09 Anybody at all? Dec 27 05:46:25 Don't all speak up at one time now. Dec 27 05:58:18 no idea over here doc Dec 27 05:58:35 jenp: Dec 27 05:58:53 yeah, it definitely needs some style - concentrating on function right now. Dec 27 05:59:02 hi haeffb! Dec 27 05:59:24 hola. Dec 27 05:59:36 as in, does it work, not does it look good :) Dec 27 05:59:56 lol Dec 27 06:00:15 well it lets me insert data....but i don'tknow what it's suppose to give me in return Dec 27 06:01:00 eventually will export to google docs spreadsheet. Currently can export a CSV via email for import into spreadsheet Dec 27 06:01:12 gotcha Dec 27 06:06:53 nytol Dec 27 07:11:07 I'm having a lot of trouble keeping my list models in sync with the data represented by the widget. Dec 27 07:11:40 Is it correct to respond to listReorder, etc. by actually modifying the model, or should I be able to get the model automatically after the change? Dec 27 07:12:20 This seems awkward: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7563, especially their listDelete and listReorder methods, which seem like they'd be reimplementing something. Dec 27 13:03:52 heya Dec 27 13:08:40 hello Dec 27 13:13:30 CTLAdvance: "design patent pending" ? ;-) Dec 27 13:16:28 ctladvance: i didn't find your moo application in the app catalog Dec 27 13:44:01 what is recommended for a help scene? local or web? Dec 27 13:44:17 probably web because of updates? Dec 27 13:46:23 yeah - we have submitted a patent for button apps Dec 27 13:47:01 Hallo Folks! Dec 27 13:50:47 hallo Dec 27 13:51:08 swisstomcat - i will have to ask my rep, I got a new one last week who is very responsive, she should be able to help with that Dec 27 13:51:27 Most likely after the new year though Dec 27 13:51:33 cool Dec 27 13:51:43 i'm still working on mine Dec 27 13:51:55 cool Dec 27 13:52:20 how did you solve help? Dec 27 13:53:05 I just have a help scene that is pushed when you access the help option from the application menu Dec 27 13:53:24 Currently we offer a forum and a direct email Dec 27 13:53:43 However we will soon reintroduce a faq type section Dec 27 13:53:54 Does anyone know if Palm is opening on Monday? Dec 27 13:54:16 Yeah they will be there, but alot of reps will still be out Dec 27 13:54:29 Mine is out through the new year Dec 27 13:54:52 however they should have some staff still working, heck they were even working on christmas Dec 27 13:54:57 oh ok, need to get some apps reviewed Dec 27 13:55:12 is anyone doing web help e.g the help scene is pulling in the help information from a website? Dec 27 13:57:07 lonestar34 its basically first come first served so it just needs to be submitted and it gets added to the queue, if you are lucky you will get it in within a few days Dec 27 13:57:16 swisstomcat: made the simplest help scene, email websites links Dec 27 13:57:35 i see Dec 27 13:57:36 yeah swisstomcat not sure its worth that for the help scene Dec 27 13:57:56 probably depending on the app Dec 27 13:57:58 also help scene should be accessable without a web connection Dec 27 13:58:06 true Dec 27 13:58:22 CTLAdvance: thanks, can I have two versions of the exact same app one paid for US and one free for the rest of the world? Dec 27 13:59:43 I would ask your handler that, because I am not sure Dec 27 13:59:47 I would assume so Dec 27 14:02:51 swisstomcat: is your app a game?\ Dec 27 14:03:01 not really Dec 27 14:03:08 a fun app Dec 27 14:03:19 for kids Dec 27 14:03:31 swiss - also we have our santa button in the precentral repository Dec 27 14:03:43 oh Dec 27 14:03:48 i could try that :) Dec 27 14:04:25 preware should have it then Dec 27 14:04:43 make sure your music volume is 100% and the ringer switch = ring Dec 27 14:05:14 Also the company that we built our buttons for has submitted a design pattent I guess Dec 27 14:06:07 yeah preware should have it Dec 27 14:06:30 installing... Dec 27 14:09:07 heh Dec 27 14:18:31 what? Dec 27 14:19:55 pretty funny Dec 27 14:22:07 thanks Dec 27 14:22:41 I have to add the other ones, just havent had time yet Dec 27 14:41:52 yay .. app is finished Dec 27 15:57:27 * swisstomcat is submitting the app to palm :) Dec 27 15:57:39 woohoo! Dec 27 15:57:50 and to precentral next Dec 27 16:16:12 So the competition begins! ;0 Dec 27 16:16:15 ;) Dec 27 16:18:54 Hi, I am desperately trying to connect to my GSM Palm with the Novacom driver. I am running 32bit Linux (Mandriva 2010.0) and have successfully converted the deb to rpm and installed it. The problem is that the novacomd daemon seems unable to connect to the device which is in dev mode and Just Charge. Dec 27 16:19:42 The error I get as soon as the palm pre is connected is: novacom_usb_rx_thread:326: error reading packet, shutting down, rc: -1 Dec 27 16:19:55 this line repeats over and over again... Dec 27 16:25:55 hmm Dec 27 16:26:05 no problems here (ubuntu 9.04 64bit) Dec 27 16:32:24 ubuntu 9.10 64 and 32bit - no problems Dec 27 16:33:11 does mandriva 2010.0 use upstart? Dec 27 16:34:27 swisstomcat: what's your app? Dec 27 16:34:39 rbredow: moo Dec 27 16:34:48 i've just submitted it to precentral Dec 27 16:35:26 want to test it? Dec 27 16:35:38 I see the post, what does it do? Dec 27 16:35:52 it goes "moo" Dec 27 16:35:59 not only :) Dec 27 16:36:01 * rbredow should have guessed. :) Dec 27 16:36:02 :) Dec 27 16:36:16 it shows pictures of animals and you can hear their sounds Dec 27 16:36:31 anyone know why textfield styling doesn't work in a dialog? Dec 27 16:36:32 My daughters would probably love it. I'm happy to test. Dec 27 16:37:12 brb Dec 27 16:38:28 http://www.inorbit.ch/upload/com.inorbit.moo_1.0.0_all.ipk Dec 27 16:55:02 anyone play with Mojo.Function.Synchronize? Dec 27 16:55:39 swisstomcat: The kids liked it. Dec 27 16:56:33 swisstomcat: If you're looking for input, I'd suggest adding a text hint to the animal pages that lets you know to shake it to hear the sound. A lot of people might not read the help. Dec 27 16:59:36 Hi, is it possible to remove an application that has added an account, without removing the data the application has added to Contacts or Calendar ? Dec 27 17:08:37 rbredow: thanks for the feedback Dec 27 17:29:04 swisstomcat: FYI, the moo application didn't look like it was attached to your precentral post. Not sure if that's just a moderation thing but I don't think people can currently download it. Dec 27 17:41:10 How are you other developers handling the sale of paid apps to persons outside the U.S.? Dec 27 17:41:36 I've had a couple of people offer to paypal me a couple of bucks, and I've sent them the IPK. Not very many though. Dec 27 17:42:34 Free is popular! Paratrooper Mini has been out for less than 24 hours and has 12683 downloads already! Dec 27 17:43:10 rbredow: Wow. I have pondered releasing a lite version of my app to handle non-U.S. users until they open up paid apps in those countries. Dec 27 17:43:58 I was thinking of setting up a little shopping cart on my site for users outside the US, but haven't done it yet. Besides, 90% of people don't have the ability to install homebrew anyway. Dec 27 17:45:18 rbredow: true, it would seem more of a hassle Dec 27 17:47:00 If it's going to be a long time before Palm offers paid downloads internationally, it'd be worth someones time to make a version of filecoaster that allows you to buy apps. That person could charge 30% as a service fee (like palm does) and I'd be more than happy to pay it. Dec 27 17:48:18 I guess since preware is GPL, someone could build an open-source version of a store like that anytime with only having to write the additional bits. (Hmmmm) Dec 27 17:51:22 rbredow: interesting... Dec 27 18:26:31 hi all! Dec 27 18:27:45 hi jenp Dec 27 18:28:09 Hey Bmyers Dec 27 18:28:40 hows it going today? Dec 27 18:29:02 good. exhausted just woke up. really long night. You? Dec 27 18:29:30 not too bad. recovering myself. Dec 27 18:29:49 smiles...how's the app coming along? Dec 27 18:30:17 getting close.. Dec 27 18:30:39 what about you? working more on debt free or something new? Dec 27 18:31:07 something new....but do need to finish what i started on debt free... Dec 27 18:31:23 sometimes i have way too many projects going on at once Dec 27 18:31:39 thats ok as long as you finish them Dec 27 18:31:57 did you have a nice christmas? Dec 27 19:03:10 JenP: I did. kids, family and food. hopefully you werent flying around for your holidays Dec 27 19:03:29 heya Dec 27 19:03:44 rbredow: i've attached the ipk to my post Dec 27 19:03:45 me? oh no. That's too much crazieness. Stayed home, relaxed Dec 27 19:04:12 rbredow: at least i tried .. attaching gives: invalid file Dec 27 19:06:24 there is a paratrooper mini version? in the app catalog? Dec 27 19:07:45 found it :) Dec 27 19:10:55 cool stuff Dec 27 19:15:05 my app "moo" is already on preware :) Dec 27 19:15:12 so go and check it out! Dec 27 19:15:29 http://www.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/moo Dec 27 19:26:49 swisstomcat: Thanks for the feedback on paratrooper mini. Dec 27 19:27:03 it's your app? Dec 27 19:27:07 I've had a new user every 3 seconds since it's release! :) Dec 27 19:27:09 Yup. Dec 27 19:27:43 wow, every 3 seconds ? Dec 27 19:27:44 rbredow: great stuff ... like the graphics and the playing Dec 27 19:27:55 Thanks a lot. Dec 27 19:29:20 rbredow: are your other apps (e.g attitude) available in europe too? i didn't see them so far Dec 27 19:29:40 unfortunately, they are $0.99 since they are only available in the US. Dec 27 19:30:02 oh, i see Dec 27 19:30:36 too bad we europeans can't get them :( Dec 27 19:30:49 yet Dec 27 20:11:29 hello i have a weird situation yesterday I was working in Eclipse on an app I all the suddon can not make a button that will do anything I have tried all kinds of things including code from a previous app i built nothing seems to work no action on button tap Dec 27 20:15:12 probably nothing to do with eclipse ... emulator hosed? Dec 27 20:32:02 you think something is wrong with the emulator Dec 27 20:39:24 probably Dec 27 20:39:36 otherwise your code would have to be wrong Dec 27 20:39:49 does your app work on an actual device? Dec 27 20:42:03 well i was using it on both with noproblems then after adding some command buttons and finishing that code i tried to add another button and it stopped working Dec 27 20:42:15 have not tried in on devise since Dec 27 20:43:21 the app works fine for everything but no new buttons will work even started a new app called stupped and no working button Dec 27 20:51:18 can you post some code? Dec 27 20:52:14 sure one sec Dec 27 20:54:26 someone gave a link to past my code so it can be looked at more easly here do you know where that is Dec 27 20:56:37

Simple

Dec 27 20:56:39 Mojo.Event.listen(this.controller.get('Simple-CNTR'),Mojo.Event.tap, this.Simple_CNTR.bindAsEventListener(this)); Dec 27 20:56:51 AddressSetupAssistant.prototype.Simple_CNTR = function(event) { this.controller.stageController.popscene; } Dec 27 20:57:46 that should be all that is needed to get the scene to pop right Dec 27 21:05:19 can you do Mojo.Log.error("button tapped"); instead of this.controller.stageController.popscene and see if you get that far? Dec 27 21:06:33 ok Dec 27 21:08:02 i looked at the log only once can you remind me how please Dec 27 21:09:11 on the command-line: palm-log appid Dec 27 21:09:20 thanks Dec 27 21:18:27 not finding it yet Dec 27 21:20:28 not finding what? Dec 27 21:24:31 i changed the line and i dont see it in the log Dec 27 21:24:46 strange Dec 27 21:25:07 yeah so the button is not getting tapped Dec 27 21:25:23 but i see a lot of undifined erroers Dec 27 21:25:40 Hi all! Dec 27 21:25:49 hi Jen Dec 27 21:26:03 hi Dec 27 21:26:09 hi guys Dec 27 21:26:11 let's check the code again Dec 27 21:27:43 try this: Mojo.Event.listen("Simple-CNTR",Mojo.Event.tap, this.Simple_CNTR.bind(this)); Dec 27 21:28:11 ok Dec 27 21:29:12 i think the error is somewhere else, in the html Dec 27 21:29:21 from an example:

Dec 27 21:29:36 but you have:

Simple

Dec 27 21:31:04 so i dont need the class statment Dec 27 21:31:59 not sure but you need the x-mojo-element part, otherwise it won't work .. didn't notice that at first Dec 27 21:36:20 Hi there, do you know if Qt works on WebOS? Dec 27 21:36:44 I tried

Dec 27 21:36:46 then Dec 27 21:36:48 Mojo.Event.listen("btnGreet",Mojo.Event.tap, this.btnGreettemp.bind(this)); Dec 27 21:36:58 then Dec 27 21:36:59 TestsceneAssistant.prototype.btnGreettemp = function(event){ this.controller.stageController.pushScene('GPS'); } Dec 27 21:37:14 n\the button did not show up Dec 27 21:37:24 boergen: not that i heard of Dec 27 21:38:11 the button didn't show up on the scene? Dec 27 21:38:40 then changed your great button to Dec 27 21:38:41

Button great

Dec 27 21:38:44 And there is also no ffmpeg for webos? Dec 27 21:38:52 it showed up but still nothing Dec 27 21:39:05 rjtaylor: do you have a this.controller.setupWidget for the button? Dec 27 21:39:30 no but i usually dont for buttons do i need that Dec 27 21:39:38 yeah Dec 27 21:40:01 ok i think i have done them without but i will do that Dec 27 21:40:22 e.g this.controller.setupWidget("btnGreet",{}, { label: "Greet me" } ); Dec 27 21:40:44 boergen: i think there is some stuff available Dec 27 21:41:20 boergen: you'd have to ask the people that do the video recorder app Dec 27 21:42:30 boergen: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Precorder Dec 27 21:46:33 mhm Dec 27 21:46:36 Thank you, sw Dec 27 21:46:46 *swisstomcat Dec 27 21:47:00 anyone know how to get a view menu to have the solid pill look, rather than discrete buttons? Dec 27 21:48:31 jfelectron: example? Dec 27 21:49:03 like the News app where it has the feedname and then prev and next feeds all part of the same palm-header like pill Dec 27 21:49:17 I used the same syntax, but I have discreet buttons Dec 27 21:50:13 i can only guess .. css? Dec 27 21:50:38 yes....just not sure how. Dec 27 21:53:24 you mean the news app from the book? Dec 27 21:55:24 still no luck Dec 27 21:56:02 rjtaylor: what happens? Dec 27 21:56:46 well i cleaned it all up to very simple here it is Dec 27 21:57:03 html is Dec 27 21:57:30 scene js is function TestsceneAssistant() { } TestsceneAssistant.prototype.setup = function() { this.controller.setupWidget("btnGreet",{}, { label: "Greet me" } ); Mojo.Event.listen("btnGreet",Mojo.Event.tap, this.btnGreettemp.bindAsEventListener(this)); } TestsceneAssistant.prototype.btnGreettemp = function(event){ this.controller.stageController.pushScene('GPS'); } TestsceneAssistant.prototype.activate = fu Dec 27 21:58:56 <_ivanst_> Rjtaylor: how about pasting it somewhere legible? Dec 27 21:59:32 sure i cant remember where that place is i asked but got no answer any ideas Dec 27 22:00:17 pastebin.com Dec 27 22:01:45 http://pastebin.com/m3a8a4953 Dec 27 22:02:29 thanks jacques3 Dec 27 22:02:40 np Rjtaylor Dec 27 22:02:59 <_ivanst_> what happens when the stuff runs? Dec 27 22:03:02 <_ivanst_> any errors in the log? Dec 27 22:03:24 I cant seem to get any buttons to fire anymero Dec 27 22:03:32 oops anymore Dec 27 22:04:05 <_ivanst_> ah... Dec 27 22:04:08 <_ivanst_> first thing that i notice Dec 27 22:04:41 i've changed some stuff directly on pastebin Dec 27 22:04:51 yeah, what does the log say now? Dec 27 22:04:51 <_ivanst_> on line 16 you pass the ID of the element to the Mojo.Event.listen, I know that I usually pass in the element itself (you get it by $('element-id')) Dec 27 22:05:17 <_ivanst_> swisstomcat++ Dec 27 22:05:28 <_ivanst_> beat me to the punch... Dec 27 22:07:14 sorry i am confused i dont see the changes and not quite sure what you meen Dec 27 22:07:15 http://pastebin.com/m24a8cabd Dec 27 22:07:26 line 16 Dec 27 22:07:53 oh btw: everyone test my new app http://www.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/moo :) Dec 27 22:07:59 rbredow: FYI, if someone sets up an alternate public app distribution method that involves money, you can expect Palm to come after any authors that distribute apps through there with an SDK TOS violation. Dec 27 22:08:36 Hi swiss on line 19 it says btnGreettemp but on 16 it is calling for btnGreettempt Dec 27 22:08:44 So it's not any match there Dec 27 22:09:02 probably my fault Dec 27 22:09:13 also, when you set up a button listener you have to add a release for it in the clean up area or it will leak memory Dec 27 22:09:37 http://pastebin.com/m39fed977 Dec 27 22:10:03 but then you'd have to setup the listener different Dec 27 22:10:13 (that was for freetim3) Dec 27 22:11:10 swiss what did you just change cause that seemed to work Dec 27 22:12:10 rjtaylor: just the setupwidget line Dec 27 22:13:52 ok thanks a bunch so was it the setupwidget or the (this.controller.get( part causing my problem Dec 27 22:14:17 this.controller.get and bind Dec 27 22:14:39 but you might have to change it again if you want to clean up the listener correctly Dec 27 22:14:55 ok thanks i was going crazy trying to figure out what i started doing differently Dec 27 22:15:31 will since you mintened that what is the best way to set up the cleanup Dec 27 22:15:47 let me find an example Dec 27 22:16:26 Still you might release the button listener on clean up, it's just good practice. See page 58 in the webOS book. Once you set up any event listener, you should also have code to release that listener on cleanup/ exit Dec 27 22:16:47 Otherwise risk of leaking memory and hogging the environment Dec 27 22:17:20 thanks Dec 27 22:17:31 There is an inline code example on page 244 Dec 27 22:19:24 http://pastebin.com/m2f13f84f Dec 27 22:22:04 Thanks Swisstomcat fo everything Dec 27 22:23:36 does it work? Dec 27 22:25:10 yeah got it working wheeeew thanks Dec 27 22:25:58 wohoo Dec 27 22:58:06 good night Dec 27 23:05:24 so hows development been Dec 27 23:05:32 im coming from an iphone background Dec 27 23:07:25 what did u devel on iphone? Dec 27 23:08:57 Bmyers: nothing, i just tested a bunch of apps, and filed bug reports Dec 27 23:09:14 jailbroken iphone i should say Dec 27 23:09:16 using cydia Dec 27 23:09:41 my iphone was stolen and i was sick of at&t, so i decided to get a pre Dec 27 23:10:02 well how do u like it so far compared to the iphone? Dec 27 23:10:17 well, its hard to say...i loved my iphone Dec 27 23:10:41 any phone ive ever tried of my friends just didnt seemed to compare to the usefulness of an jailbroken iphone Dec 27 23:10:50 and especially with cydia Dec 27 23:11:05 webOS is nice though Dec 27 23:11:13 there dont seem to be nearly as many apps Dec 27 23:11:32 iphone has a few years on pre.. Dec 27 23:11:47 If you get PreWare for the Pre, you can install quite a few nice extras. Dec 27 23:11:49 yeah, may-2007 Dec 27 23:12:05 Still, nothing like the environment that's around the iPhone, but ssh and stuff. Dec 27 23:12:41 rbredow: oh wow, this is just what i was looking for Dec 27 23:12:56 Preware is awesome. And open source. Dec 27 23:16:41 ive been googling around for something like this for a few days Dec 27 23:17:14 Gives you all the homebrew and everything. And, well supported and you can back out of any patches too. Dec 27 23:18:07 icarus: preware is like cydia, expect Palm gives the instructions and tools for getting a root command line on their web site. Dec 27 23:18:35 I know this is a dumb question, but how to you get a Palm button in an app to take you to a different scene? Dec 27 23:18:42 * rwhitby runs the preware.org site Dec 27 23:19:02 rwhitby: im glad to be talking to you then Dec 27 23:19:11 I couldn't find any documentation on it. Dec 27 23:22:36 oh man, its so good to see legit documentation on gaining root Dec 27 23:22:49 ive been flipping through alot of vague blogs on the process Dec 27 23:25:47 icarus: http://install.preware.org/ is the best info Dec 27 23:26:32 icarus: #webos-internals is the best channel for discussion about linux command line access and preware Dec 27 23:37:14 i forgot how to run a .jar file under linux Dec 27 23:39:36 java -jar file Dec 27 23:39:41 k... Dec 27 23:51:39 i dont want to be all noobish, but how does novacom work? Dec 27 23:51:49 i just installed it, and am looking at it, but what function does it serve? Dec 27 23:52:17 allows telnet (via putty) over USB 'network' Dec 27 23:53:51 You can connect to hostname: localhost ...over port 8023 and there are good putty settings here http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Putty Dec 27 23:54:09 I hope that helps, if so, you may give me a cookie. :) Dec 27 23:55:09 Dare I ask for help? Dec 27 23:55:44 Also if you don't care to telnet, some software particualrly the webOSinstaller from Preware, uses Novaproxy too, to install to Pre by enabling the 'localhost' port over USB to your pre Dec 27 23:56:42 FreeTim3: that last part you mention is what im trying to figure out Dec 27 23:56:53 Hi Yoshiness, standard answer, don't ask if you can ask. Just state your problem and then question and see if anyone comes back to you Dec 27 23:58:54 icarus: I hear you there. Some fancy magic I suppose, haven't looked at it in any detail myself, but I've used the webosinstaller thing, and it works when novaproxy running. There may be more on wiki i haven't looked into it too much Dec 28 00:01:21 icarus: just install the Palm SDK and then run novaterm Dec 28 00:01:45 FreeTim3: im follow this howto very closely http://preware.org/#/install/ Dec 28 00:01:48 yousiness are you still here Dec 28 00:01:50 but im hung up on novacom Dec 28 00:01:59 because i didnt have it installed, now im looking up how to run it Dec 28 00:02:19 icarus: on mine at first it was NOT happy until I restarted my notebook pc, not sure why, after that was OK Dec 28 00:02:22 rwhitby: im on arch linux, so the SDk deb file would have to be run in virtualbox for me, and thats a whole other hour of configuring Dec 28 00:02:30 perhaps some latch into the USB ? I don't know Dec 28 00:02:42 Yes. My question is how do I make a Palm button go to another scene? (or whatever) Dec 28 00:02:51 icarus: you need to novacom drivers to communicate over USB to the device Dec 28 00:03:37 i was having problems earlier because my buttons stopped any way the example here should show you how http://pastebin.com/m2f13f84f Dec 28 00:03:54 icarus: there is an open source version of the drivers for linux on git.webos-internals.org (I run the webos-internals.org site too) Dec 28 00:04:04 look for precomd Dec 28 00:04:11 it uses libusb Dec 28 00:04:22 this.controller.stageController.pushScene('GPS'); is the part that opens the other scene Dec 28 00:04:24 rwhitby: i saw that just a second ago! Dec 28 00:04:31 im going to restart my comp really quick Dec 28 00:04:34 and see how that goes Dec 28 00:04:59 hey everyone, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and all that good stuff Dec 28 00:05:04 you can also swapScene() if you prefer Dec 28 00:07:04 anything exciting going on? Dec 28 00:07:36 hay free do you just change the pushScene to swapScene Dec 28 00:10:24 yoshiness Dec 28 00:10:32 did that help Dec 28 00:11:55 same exact error Dec 28 00:16:49 Is there a difference between swapScene and pushScene, and I'll try it out right now Dec 28 00:20:06 I have not used swapScene but i think the difference is pushScene puts a new scene on top of the stack and swap change o an already open scene Dec 28 00:22:26 that's exactly it Rjtaylor Dec 28 00:22:42 thanks Dec 28 00:35:06 Whoo. It works. I've got everything I need to make my new game. Dec 28 00:35:44 I was doing this exactly last night, but I had my scene titled different than what I had it going to. Dec 28 00:36:15 rwhitby: alright, im following the wiki steps, having better luck now Dec 28 00:37:13 goodluck with it yoshiness Dec 28 00:38:57 One question though. Do image slices work in webOS? That's something my game was originally going to depend on. Dec 28 01:06:58 neeet Dec 28 01:06:59 http://phpjs.org Dec 28 01:07:11 js functions that do what the same as the php ones Dec 28 01:36:51 dawm_: interesting Dec 28 01:37:03 also Dec 28 01:37:11 systemsounds on the emu arent the same on the device.. Dec 28 01:38:04 systemsound work on the emu? Dec 28 01:38:17 well if you enable them Dec 28 01:38:48 hello world Dec 28 01:39:11 http://pre101.com/blog/2009/10/31/enabling-sounds-in-the-webos-emulator/ Dec 28 01:40:43 just plays wavs or can you do systemsound alerts and stuff Dec 28 01:40:57 hey haeffe! Dec 28 01:55:16 just managing a minor crisis in the home. glass broke, dr pepper all over the table & carpet. moved houseplant off of table to clean it. houseplant falls on floor breaking pot and scattering soil all over dr pepper Dec 28 01:55:33 welp Dec 28 01:55:39 0.5.5 of swap&drop submitted Dec 28 01:55:49 with drag? Dec 28 01:55:51 no more tapping of pieces, swipe/drag ftw Dec 28 01:56:03