**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jan 24 02:59:57 2010 Jan 24 02:59:59 OKAY I FINALY FIXED ALL MY BUGS Jan 24 03:00:08 who wants to help beta test :D Jan 24 03:00:24 if they're all fixed, why should I bother... ? :) Jan 24 03:00:25 It's an awsome app Jan 24 03:00:29 because Jan 24 03:00:37 i can't possibly find all the bugs Jan 24 03:00:40 crasheed you can send it to me but i won't be able to beta for a few days Jan 24 03:00:49 awhh Jan 24 03:00:51 JenP: it does refresh when the scene changes. Jan 24 03:00:51 how come? Jan 24 03:01:03 haeffb how do you make inspector follow you when you switch...mine isnt Jan 24 03:01:26 if you're pushing a scene over another scene, it shows both. Jan 24 03:01:38 how about showing the dialog box? Jan 24 03:01:47 not sure about dialog. Jan 24 03:01:52 haven't tried. Jan 24 03:02:05 i'm not having luck with it Jan 24 03:02:25 which sucks because i was all excited... Jan 24 03:02:50 yes, there's the dialog Jan 24 03:02:55 works for me. Jan 24 03:03:11 hmmm...what am i doing wrong... Jan 24 03:03:17 it just shows the first scene Jan 24 03:03:21 thats it Jan 24 03:03:23 dialog shows up as another div in prefs scene Jan 24 03:03:43 PM Jan 24 04:19:20 Okay anyone free to do a few tests with me on my new app? Jan 24 04:19:38 TibFIB where r u? Jan 24 04:22:01 Anyone it's gona be the COOLEST EVER Jan 24 04:26:40 crasheed: send it to me haeffb at yahoo and I'll look at it in the AM Jan 24 04:26:52 AM? Jan 24 04:27:55 craheed: I'm here Jan 24 04:27:57 morning. past my bedtime. Jan 24 04:27:58 lol Jan 24 04:29:25 man over-riding palms buttons is a pain Jan 24 04:29:59 overrideing palm text fields was a pain too XD Jan 24 04:30:44 none of it can be as painful as trying to get the synchronizer to work with wrapping db onsuccess handlers Jan 24 04:31:23 sticking toothpicks in my eyeballs is a pain. Jan 24 04:31:34 99% sure it is broken/buggy Jan 24 04:33:16 Roy-Pre101: how's tricks? Jan 24 04:35:32 KK i need someone running 1.3.5 to help me beta test my app Jan 24 04:39:25 hey roy do you have any words of wisdom on how to over-ride palms buttons in css? Jan 24 04:54:53 Testing Jan 24 04:54:55 Whee! Jan 24 04:54:57 I can speak again. Jan 24 04:55:10 Whose brilliant idea was it to lock this channel down to only registered people? Jan 24 04:55:35 the spambots kind of forced the hand Jan 24 04:55:40 it's terrible :( Jan 24 04:56:00 I guess I need to learn how to bump my registered nick off the channel Jan 24 04:56:34 Of course, I really have no clue what my password was since I just saved it in the keychain Jan 24 04:57:14 Hmm... my speed test showed 17.83 Mbps download speed. That seems awfully high. Wonder if dd-wrt is doing some hocus-pocus. Jan 24 04:57:18 Or if Cox is. Jan 24 04:57:32 In any case, network is humming now. Jan 24 04:58:10 Whew, so glad to be rid of that bad router. Jan 24 04:58:15 awesome Jan 24 05:25:21 is there a way to call modelChanged for multiple models? Jan 24 05:25:43 or do you have to have a modelChanged statement for each model that has changed Jan 24 06:08:20 I know O'Reilly released a WebOS book, are there any other good resources besides the getting started info on palm's website? Jan 24 06:14:21 Anyone else willing to help beta test my new app? FREE MUSIC~! Jan 24 06:15:26 I'm about to kill my pre. Jan 24 06:15:33 o.O Jan 24 06:15:49 Why on earth would it tell me "Up to date" when I am on 1.3.1? Jan 24 06:16:03 it's a bug i had it too Jan 24 06:16:08 just use webOS doctor Jan 24 06:16:11 I just did Jan 24 06:16:12 it'll fix it Jan 24 06:16:19 I JUST doctored to 1.3.1 Jan 24 06:16:23 y? Jan 24 06:16:27 to test some stuff Jan 24 06:16:31 oh lol Jan 24 06:16:49 I had to use the doctor to update after my Pre's screen died Jan 24 06:16:50 wouldn't it have been easier to run sdk 1.3.1? instead of reformatting yet phone Jan 24 06:16:54 and I took it in for the replacement Jan 24 06:17:05 testing AUPT Jan 24 06:17:11 it was on 1.1 and I had to doctor that up to 1.3.5.1 Jan 24 06:18:46 I need beta testers for a HOT app anyone else? Jan 24 06:21:47 will it kill my dog? Jan 24 06:22:14 No but my previous app on the catalog will Jan 24 06:36:28 Anyone from palm here? Jan 24 06:52:15 Looking for beta testers Jan 24 07:15:05 How do you set up a palm profile if you webOS doctor to bypass the activation? Jan 24 07:52:27 why does Mojo.Environment.build return 200 for me? Jan 24 08:08:25 cya later all Jan 24 08:09:13 NOO TIBFIB my last beta tester Jan 24 08:09:24 Anyone else awake wana help beta test ? Jan 24 09:59:36 hi there Jan 24 10:00:31 anyone knows how I could swap the data of a list model? Jan 24 10:00:52 I'm trying with Object.extend(dest, new)) Jan 24 10:01:05 but it does not work Jan 24 10:04:29 for more details you could look at http://www.pastie.org/private/1rceqr4wgylahufm9sbu9g Jan 24 10:04:43 I´d appreciate any help Jan 24 10:16:18 ?maruku: is this.bloodies your list model? Jan 24 10:16:54 i'm using it to fullfil the listmodel Jan 24 10:16:55 yep Jan 24 10:17:40 to change the data of it you just need to change the array in this.bloodies.items Jan 24 10:17:59 what is Object.extend supposed to do? Jan 24 10:18:52 but you have a this.listModel... so what is this.bloodies Jan 24 10:19:50 so to change the data of your list you just to change the array in this.listModel.items Jan 24 10:20:19 supposedly, Object.extend(dest, new) puts the data from new to dest and previously I've cleared dest Jan 24 10:20:40 yep, that's why I'm trying to do, but I'm not success :) Jan 24 10:21:30 your trying to change this.listModel.items? Jan 24 10:22:09 yep Jan 24 10:22:37 you can just go this.listModel.items = the array you want Jan 24 10:22:41 I think that I've tried everything that I could but maybe I did wrong Jan 24 10:22:59 I thing that I didn't try this way Jan 24 10:23:06 I'm gonna try Jan 24 10:29:43 Epix: it worked Jan 24 10:29:45 thx Jan 24 10:29:59 no problem Jan 24 10:30:28 I've tried something similar before but I did it wrong, that's why I didnt success Jan 24 10:34:52 morning Jan 24 10:38:58 morning Jan 24 10:39:03 though I would say its getting close to bed time Jan 24 10:48:08 it's always morning on some place on the earth Jan 24 11:01:16 Does anyone have experience with quattro wireless and how you are supposed to include HTTP headers? Jan 24 11:08:43 not really Jan 24 11:08:49 what are you trying to do? Jan 24 11:10:18 in quattro's API documentation it says that you have to include HTTP headers in your request. I have it working for the test banner without it though. Jan 24 11:11:06 And I know how to actually include them Jan 24 11:11:16 don't know* Jan 24 13:22:20 hallo noaXess Jan 24 13:22:35 want to test my latest app update? (moo) Jan 24 13:51:37 hey swisstomcat.. was out with my family.. Jan 24 13:51:45 how is the app called? moo? Jan 24 13:51:50 yeah Jan 24 13:52:01 the old version is on precentral Jan 24 13:52:10 i have a new version which you could beta-test before it's released Jan 24 13:52:17 ok will try soon.. first esspresso, vielle prune and cake :) Jan 24 13:52:27 sounds good Jan 24 13:53:14 where is the beta version? Jan 24 13:53:51 good morning, my swiss friends. Jan 24 13:54:08 hey haeffb_gon4coffe.. so you too? Jan 24 13:54:17 then we have afternoon ;) Jan 24 13:54:45 so.. need now a esspresso.. Jan 24 13:54:53 yes, and then you go to sleep in the middle of the day. lazy europeans! Jan 24 13:55:11 middle of my day, that is Jan 24 13:55:30 work all night, sleep all day Jan 24 13:58:01 morn'n haeffb_gon4coffe Jan 24 13:59:20 Bmyers. How's it going today? Jan 24 13:59:44 going ok i guess. i got coffee.. Jan 24 14:01:06 morning Jan 24 14:01:37 noaxess: http://www.inorbit.ch/upload/com.inorbit.moo_1.0.1_all.ipk Jan 24 14:01:44 also everyone else who wants to test moo Jan 24 14:04:09 i had my first coffee hours ago Jan 24 14:04:32 dl'ing now swisstomcat Jan 24 14:05:15 i'll have a new version in a few minutes Jan 24 14:07:44 uploading Jan 24 14:08:50 ok, the new version is up .. same link Jan 24 14:42:14 zzzZZZ Jan 24 14:52:47 i'm uploading the (hopefully) final version Jan 24 14:53:54 done Jan 24 14:57:28 http://www.inorbit.ch/upload/com.inorbit.moo_1.0.1_all.ipk Jan 24 15:00:24 please test Jan 24 15:00:31 afterwards i'll release to the wild Jan 24 15:01:37 installing now Jan 24 15:02:18 ooh... big ipk Jan 24 15:02:22 yeah Jan 24 15:02:25 sounds and images Jan 24 15:03:12 if I could just get these textfield styles to work.... Jan 24 15:03:37 what are you trying to do? Jan 24 15:04:24 change the background for a focused textfield. I know it can work, just need to figure out what I'm doing wrong. Jan 24 15:06:32 swisstomcat: nice. Jan 24 15:06:43 thanks Jan 24 15:06:46 you like it? Jan 24 15:07:30 yeah. seems like it has a hard time recognizing a shake, though. Jan 24 15:07:45 really Jan 24 15:07:51 hmm Jan 24 15:08:06 maybe I'm not shaking hard enough. Jan 24 15:08:29 i'm not really shaking hard Jan 24 15:08:47 maybe differences in accelerometer between devices? Jan 24 15:09:13 i wonder if that could be Jan 24 15:09:18 unfortunately the shake api is kinda bad Jan 24 15:09:27 you gave up on the transparent header? Jan 24 15:09:39 for now, yeah Jan 24 15:09:46 until i figure it out Jan 24 15:10:17 you just want the name overlaid on top of the photo? nothing else? Jan 24 15:10:26 yup Jan 24 15:10:50
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Jan 24 15:11:11 use CSS to position: fixed where you want it and z-index of something high like 99999 Jan 24 15:12:13 er.
Jan 24 15:12:34 this.controller.get('animalName').innerHTML = animalName; Jan 24 15:14:11 ok Jan 24 15:14:53 what about a transparent header pill? Jan 24 15:16:28 you'd have to modify the header pill images. Jan 24 15:16:34 I think what haeffb said would be the easiest Jan 24 15:16:47 you think it would look better than now? Jan 24 15:16:53 you just want it mostly transparent? Jan 24 15:17:09 because the ones they have now are transparent. Jan 24 15:17:15 you can see thru them. Jan 24 15:17:20 ok Jan 24 15:17:27 can it be over a canvas? Jan 24 15:17:43 I wouldn't see why not. Jan 24 15:18:33 have to try it Jan 24 15:27:14 hallo metaview Jan 24 15:27:27 moo update is ready for release Jan 24 15:27:38 http://www.inorbit.ch/upload/com.inorbit.moo_1.0.1_all.ipk Jan 24 15:31:53 why is no one making a messenger program for pre Jan 24 15:31:57 like msn messenger Jan 24 15:40:17 how could I get the date picker value straight away? I mean, without capture its change event Jan 24 15:40:32 let me check my code Jan 24 15:40:47 thx Jan 24 15:41:50 you can access the model directly Jan 24 15:41:54 how do you set yours up? Jan 24 15:42:06 well, I'm using Ares Jan 24 15:42:20 so it does automatically Jan 24 15:43:27 using ares, how I could access the model directly? any thoughts_ Jan 24 15:43:32 ? Jan 24 15:44:10 can you edit the code directly? Jan 24 15:44:32 the web application does not leave you to do so Jan 24 15:44:57 cause it created a JSON file with all scene data Jan 24 15:45:09 maruku: of course it does. Jan 24 15:45:19 how? Jan 24 15:45:31 you have to set the model to something in Ares, right? Jan 24 15:45:36 Im sorry, Im new with all this stuff... Jan 24 15:45:44 yep Jan 24 15:45:50 I don't know - I don't use Ares. but I'm sure that you can access the model of a widget. Jan 24 15:46:01 what did you set the model to? Jan 24 15:46:27 Sun Jan 24 2010 14:32:45 GMT+0100 (CET) Jan 24 15:46:53 that's what ares has setted up Jan 24 15:48:54 in ares, don't you have to name the model? Jan 24 15:49:06 nope Jan 24 15:49:17 it does it for you Jan 24 15:49:36 let me check Jan 24 15:49:48 as datePropertyName it has "date" Jan 24 15:49:53 in "files" you can see the code Jan 24 15:50:06 and modelName is blank Jan 24 15:50:38 in files, I can see the assistant code Jan 24 15:51:14 can you also change the code? Jan 24 15:51:44 put something in modelName like "myDateModel" Jan 24 15:52:14 ok Jan 24 15:52:20 you can then access the selected date with this.myDateModel.date Jan 24 15:52:31 then in your code, var myDate = myDateModel.date; Jan 24 15:52:47 or, yeah, this.myDateModel.date Jan 24 15:53:38 ok, I try it Jan 24 15:53:40 thx Jan 24 15:54:41 cool! it has worked Jan 24 15:54:54 many thx folks!! Jan 24 16:00:41 http://mobility.dell.com/AccessoriesDetails.aspx?referringdomain=dellmobility&agent=&oflag=&zipcode=&refcode1=DMS_4444_000_PHONEDEALS&refcode2=&eid=&manufacturerid=16&productId=57917&accessoryid=58257&categoryid=186&cenbd=1&cid=35693_137e0ae8488b4005941a4811e76c23b4 Jan 24 16:01:24 charger kit of 29.99 Jan 24 16:03:35 clearance? Jan 24 16:10:29 Hah I posted that yesterday here Jan 24 16:14:17 Bmyers: ping Jan 24 16:20:59 When running make toolchain, it first downloads the arm file, but when it's done and tries to untar, it tells me it's not a valid tar file. Do I need to somehow put in the -j parameter to tell tar that it's a bz2 file? I'm on CentOS 4 Jan 24 16:23:01 what are you trying to do, n8rrv? Jan 24 16:23:51 Trying to install the PDK I think. Jan 24 16:24:10 the official one? Jan 24 16:24:35 Nope, trying to follow the wiki for the unofficial one. Jan 24 16:25:57 you better ask on #webos-internals where the pdk-developers hang out Jan 24 16:26:22 Thanks. Jan 24 16:26:44 I saw the topic on that channel, that's why I came here. Jan 24 16:26:46 how do you use the touch stone in a car? Jan 24 16:27:27 yeah, it's usually the right place for development questions Jan 24 16:27:53 unless it's something from webos-internals Jan 24 16:27:58 like the unofficial pdk or preware Jan 24 16:29:26 Ok, I figured it out, just took their command line and modified it to include -j Jan 24 16:29:50 Guess I should have tried that first before asking questions. Jan 24 16:31:03 np Jan 24 16:47:00 may I use the Palm-Inspector with the device? Jan 24 16:49:06 have you tried? Jan 24 16:49:29 yes, it doesn't work Jan 24 16:49:41 it asks about the emu Jan 24 17:03:59 MetaView they removed inspector support from teh device... I forget when. Jan 24 17:04:20 I think there's some CHANCE it's brought back in 1.4 but I won't swear to it. Jan 24 17:05:13 ok, thx Jan 24 17:15:47 Rick-home: make Mojo.Function.Synchronize work better.... Jan 24 17:16:32 textfield css styles are mine! Jan 24 17:17:21 you made them work? Jan 24 17:17:32 oh, yeah. Jan 24 17:17:47 wiki wiki wiki Jan 24 17:18:08 Myles is now so pretty, I'm thinking about changing his name to "Veronica" Jan 24 17:18:24 hehe Jan 24 17:18:29 screenshots? Jan 24 17:19:00 veronica, the prom queen Jan 24 17:20:33 any ideas how to integrate paypal donate buttons into forum posts? Jan 24 17:20:43 since the code paypal generates includes a form Jan 24 17:22:40 http://img163.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=myles20102401112102.png Jan 24 17:23:04 swisstomcat: I'll give you the code, but it'll donate to me. Is that OK? Jan 24 17:23:13 hehe Jan 24 17:23:32 50/50 i'd say Jan 24 17:23:46 ok, good enuf Jan 24 17:24:09 looking good - orange and brown Jan 24 17:24:34 should I get rid of the blue on the list scene? or leave it be? Jan 24 17:25:23 it makes the app brighter Jan 24 17:25:33 did you try it with brown? Jan 24 17:25:36 the cabinet Jan 24 17:25:53 not yet. a dark orange might look nice. I'll play with it and see. Jan 24 17:26:07 also the blue on the veh/cat toggle Jan 24 17:26:43 but I like the blue/orange/brown combo as well Jan 24 17:27:15 did you try symbols instead of veh/cat? Jan 24 17:27:35 I haven't yet. Need to create/find icons Jan 24 17:27:47 is there a background fade-out at the sides on the list scene? Jan 24 17:28:11 yes, on all scenes. Jan 24 17:28:24 that's not a default, is it? Jan 24 17:28:28 nope. Jan 24 17:28:43 it's a background that JenP made and I modified a bit. Jan 24 17:28:46 something else i notice: there's no km/mi after the number Jan 24 17:28:58 true Jan 24 17:29:20 you don't remember what units you're driving? Jan 24 17:30:03 it makes the numbers look out of place Jan 24 17:30:18 I'd have to have a prefs field that you could enter "mi" or "km" or select "english/metric" Jan 24 17:30:33 you want the .ipk? Jan 24 17:30:52 i can test and give more feedback Jan 24 17:30:54 sure Jan 24 17:30:59 email? Jan 24 17:31:33 i had to do some custom icons too for my fahrplan app Jan 24 17:33:01 i need some beaver pics Jan 24 17:33:03 Rick-home: ping Jan 24 17:33:26 swisstomcat: lol Jan 24 17:33:28 swisstomcat: well, I'd tell you to google image search 'beaver' but that's probably not going to be what you want Jan 24 17:33:34 he went to buy a gun Jan 24 17:33:40 or something like that Jan 24 17:34:11 (06:24:25 PM) Rick-home: well, I'm going to go see if the nice man at the gun show has some cheap 9mm. Be back later. Jan 24 17:34:21 ah, ammunition actually Jan 24 17:34:30 sugardave: why not? Jan 24 17:34:47 if you're feeling brave... Jan 24 17:34:51 go for it :D Jan 24 17:35:00 well Jan 24 17:35:09 maybe I'm too jaded Jan 24 17:35:09 i get beaver pics Jan 24 17:35:17 well, that's refreshing Jan 24 17:35:29 "beaver" is US slang for the female genital area Jan 24 17:35:36 oh Jan 24 17:35:42 guess i should turn safe-search off Jan 24 17:35:47 hahaha Jan 24 17:35:57 made popular by Hustler magazine's "beaver hunt" section - amateur photos. Jan 24 17:36:04 nope Jan 24 17:36:07 only beavers Jan 24 17:36:11 dang Jan 24 17:36:13 :) Jan 24 17:36:15 beaver pics? Jan 24 17:36:15 I"m impressed Jan 24 17:36:34 maybe the swiss censor google like China. Jan 24 17:37:01 hmmm Jan 24 17:37:03 whats a good windows ftp client? Jan 24 17:37:09 winscp Jan 24 17:37:25 though I hear filezilla is good, too...resumes, etc. Jan 24 17:37:41 i think I used filezilla on my other laptop Jan 24 17:37:55 there you go Jan 24 17:37:56 but I'm using winSCP for accessing the Pre already. Jan 24 17:38:02 there's another type of beaver on page 3 Jan 24 17:38:15 haeffb: it's got ftp as a protocol option for sessions Jan 24 17:38:26 http://www.guitarsandaudio.com/extras/shite/shave-beaver.jpg Jan 24 17:38:40 oh no, now you've done it Jan 24 17:38:56 Jeesh Jan 24 17:39:06 Keep it G rated aye? Jan 24 17:39:06 Lol Jan 24 17:39:18 did you look at the pic? Jan 24 17:39:23 to login to http://haeffb.com on winSCP, what port? Jan 24 17:39:23 nope :D Jan 24 17:39:31 it's SFW Jan 24 17:39:35 haeffb: for ftp? 21 Jan 24 17:40:08 swisstomcat: lol, I've seen that before Jan 24 17:40:13 pretty funny Jan 24 17:40:18 I keep getting "host does not exist." Jan 24 17:40:41 i need public domain images tho Jan 24 17:41:01 haeffb: haeffb.com appears to not be listening on port 21 Jan 24 17:41:17 that bastard Jan 24 17:41:35 oh Jan 24 17:41:39 I are dumbass Jan 24 17:41:43 it's 'gtp haeffb.com' Jan 24 17:41:44 ftp Jan 24 17:43:04 haeffb: are you just testing or do you need to transfer something there? Jan 24 17:43:22 you can always do command line ftp...your anon account is working, looks like Jan 24 17:44:00 Well, eventually I need to update the site. Thought I'd throw my .ipks out there, but need to get winSCP working. Or filezilla Jan 24 17:44:03 or something. Jan 24 17:44:25 winscp should be easy to get to work...hang on a sec and I'll see if I can do it on mine Jan 24 17:44:30 FZ works pretty good Jan 24 17:45:37 haeffb: so, make a new session with haeffb.com as the host name and change the protocol to ftp....you can even leave username and blank and it will prompt you each time you go there Jan 24 17:45:57 bbl .. need food Jan 24 17:46:51 hi all Jan 24 17:46:58 JenP! Jan 24 17:47:08 goodmorning haeffb! Jan 24 17:47:22 hey jen Jan 24 17:47:30 hi swisstomcat Jan 24 17:48:29 JenP: email. I think you will like this. Jan 24 17:48:36 kk Jan 24 17:49:15 haeffb: mleut@yahoo.com Jan 24 17:50:50 sent Jan 24 17:51:03 haeffb it looks gorgeous! Jan 24 17:51:13 love the orange toggles Jan 24 17:54:57 haeffb: I really like the clean lines..are you ready to release? Jan 24 17:56:58 close Jan 24 17:57:15 thinking about getting rid of the rest of the blue Jan 24 17:58:21 i support that Jan 24 17:58:30 very nice, haeffb Jan 24 17:59:07 a suggestion: add tab-key support to advance to the next field (if that's possible) Jan 24 17:59:41 e.g in edit/add vehicle Jan 24 18:00:49 bbib Jan 24 18:26:14 swisstomcat: Enter key advances to next field Jan 24 18:27:45 Hello all Jan 24 18:27:51 Hi I was just wondering if anyone else was having problems getting onto Ares. This was my first time trying to open it and it just opened up to a white screen. Jan 24 18:28:12 No sir Jan 24 18:29:07 Weird, it happened in both Firefox and IE *shudder*. Jan 24 18:34:26 Oh, another quick curiosity. How do upgrades work on the palm app catalog? Does the user just have to redownload the app at the newest level, or do you have to implement a custom upgrade feature in all of your apps? Jan 24 18:39:52 tanlaan: it's handled via the app catalog, you might need to implement an upgrade path for things like a database inside your app, but not for the app itself Jan 24 18:42:54 is it possible to check if an alarm is set? Jan 24 18:48:25 Go to your clock app, click the alarm button and check for any alarms that are on. Jan 24 18:48:48 nope, I mean, when I set an alarm using the alarm mgr Jan 24 18:48:55 how can I check, this alarm is set Jan 24 18:48:58 later on Jan 24 18:48:59 ? Jan 24 18:49:31 sugardave: Ahh, that makes sense. Thank you very much :) Jan 24 18:53:01 MetaView: I'm a new user but I'd like to help, might you explain what you mean by alarm manager? I see no apps in the catalog of that name and only know of one way to set alarms. Jan 24 18:54:44 well, we speak about the SDK hee, mostly, and there is an Alarm Mgr/Service, which wakes up your device/app at a given time Jan 24 18:57:07 Ahhhh, I see :). Well then I'll have to leave that to somebody who's got some experience with it. Jan 24 18:58:00 :) Jan 24 18:58:21 MetaView: haeffb and Bmyers know alarms Jan 24 18:58:34 and others, I'm sure Jan 24 18:58:44 not me, though :D Jan 24 18:59:11 ok, pity Jan 24 18:59:22 I just wait for haeffb or Bmyers Jan 24 19:01:03 who? Jan 24 19:01:40 swisstomcat: still around? Jan 24 19:01:48 yeah, just got back Jan 24 19:01:58 forgot to give you the paypal code Jan 24 19:02:23 oh yes Jan 24 19:02:40 that would be great Jan 24 19:04:24 Bmyers, haeffb: can I check if my app has an alarm scheduled? Jan 24 19:07:22 not sure, do you save the id? Jan 24 19:08:07 do not know Jan 24 19:09:00 swisstomcat: http://www.pastie.org/792508 Jan 24 19:09:38 change the URL as needed. Unless you want them to donate to me and I'll reimburse 50%... :) Jan 24 19:09:38 oh, that only works if you have a business account? Jan 24 19:09:57 I don't have a business account. Jan 24 19:10:13 hmm Jan 24 19:10:31 where did you find the business=xxx code? Jan 24 19:10:32 gotta run to play bball. bbl. Jan 24 19:10:37 thanks Jan 24 19:10:39 l8r haeffb Jan 24 19:10:45 somewhere on paypal's site, to create a "donate" button. Jan 24 19:10:46 i'll try to figure it out Jan 24 19:10:55 cu l8er Jan 24 19:12:03 Bmyers: yes, I would have the ID, but the docs has no get or check Jan 24 19:15:47 MetaView , you save the return from the set command? Jan 24 19:15:55 yes Jan 24 19:16:14 but when I'm called another day, I would like to know if the alarm is still scheduled or not Jan 24 19:17:19 i think the best you could do is true to clear a timeout with your id, if it fails, you didnt have one.. Jan 24 19:17:26 true/try Jan 24 19:18:36 hm Jan 24 19:19:04 anyone seen hernacki today? Jan 24 19:19:11 there doesnt seem to be a query, just set and clear. if i follow what you r doing.. Jan 24 19:19:24 yes Jan 24 19:19:26 I'm about to throw my pre at the wall. :D Jan 24 19:19:47 "Your phone is up to date." .... and I'm on a freshly doctored 1.3.1. Jan 24 19:20:00 dBsooner , hey i cant seem to clear the app dl count patch or reinstall it with preware.. Jan 24 19:20:07 but maybe this is a bad time to ask.. Jan 24 19:20:19 what's the problem, bmyers? Jan 24 19:20:21 Bmyers: probably :D Jan 24 19:20:53 in preware i cant remove or update patches Jan 24 19:21:27 what happens if you try to? Jan 24 19:22:13 ipkg error Jan 24 19:22:20 details? Jan 24 19:22:31 lemme do it here.. Jan 24 19:24:16 i go to packages updates Jan 24 19:24:36 it shows show download count, i tap Jan 24 19:24:41 update / remove Jan 24 19:24:46 remove Jan 24 19:26:20 ipkg log. failed generic method exception : failure during pre-remove script exec Jan 24 19:27:13 nothing else? Jan 24 19:27:42 its looking in /var/usr/palm/applications/org.webosinternals.patches.app-catalog-show.../app-downloadpatch no such file or directory Jan 24 19:28:13 are you on 1.3.5.x? Jan 24 19:28:22 cannot open /var/usr/palm/applications/org.we.. .. Jan 24 19:28:25 yeah... Jan 24 19:28:27 i am Jan 24 19:28:49 when did you update? Jan 24 19:29:07 did you ever run EPR? Jan 24 19:29:31 yes. i ran epr Jan 24 19:29:50 i wonder why it's looking in /var/usr/palm Jan 24 19:30:01 what version of preware? Jan 24 19:30:37 latest i think. or recent anyways.. Jan 24 19:30:45 i dont get why its looking there either Jan 24 19:31:01 0.9.18 Jan 24 19:31:06 latest Jan 24 19:32:07 well /var/usr/palm doesn't exist Jan 24 19:32:16 you need to do the migrater thing Jan 24 19:32:22 EMH? Jan 24 19:32:31 did you ever run EMH, bmyers? Jan 24 19:33:04 you need to have your ipkg database rebuilt or something or other. :D Jan 24 19:35:48 i think i did run emh too Jan 24 19:36:30 eru? Jan 24 19:37:04 emergency migration helper Jan 24 19:37:33 lemme try it Jan 24 19:39:59 checking package manager versions (spinning spinning) Jan 24 19:40:49 doesnt come out of that now.. Jan 24 19:41:04 preware? Jan 24 19:41:15 before running emh? Jan 24 19:41:29 no, now. trying to launch preware again.. Jan 24 19:42:10 well now it started preware at least.. Jan 24 19:43:23 same thing. Jan 24 19:43:46 after you ran EMH Jan 24 19:43:50 yes Jan 24 19:45:02 did you reboot inbetween? Jan 24 19:45:09 luna reboot Jan 24 19:45:28 i'd try a full one Jan 24 19:45:40 as far as i remember i did that after updating to 1.3.5.2 Jan 24 19:46:24 ok Jan 24 19:51:55 same Jan 24 19:52:00 hmmm Jan 24 19:53:32 i'll try the reconstruction emergency one.. Jan 24 19:59:21 ive just had my first factory restart due to webos update Jan 24 20:00:22 ouch Jan 24 20:00:25 what happened? Jan 24 20:01:51 had preware installed, then along came the palm update, then i tried to install some more apps via store, any updated apps dident install Jan 24 20:02:58 did you run EPR and EMH? Jan 24 20:03:43 Emergency Patch Removal before the update and Emergency Migration Helper after the update Jan 24 20:03:45 forgot :P it was about 3am a few weeks ago after a few drinks Jan 24 20:03:52 oh Jan 24 20:04:08 so my own fult Jan 24 20:04:30 everything is working again? Jan 24 20:04:51 think so Jan 24 20:05:05 just singing into gmail for contacts Jan 24 20:07:09 yep eveything looks like its working Jan 24 20:09:41 back... Jan 24 20:09:57 rehi Jan 24 20:23:34 has anyone tried the webOS quick install under windows 7? Jan 24 20:23:51 it should work Jan 24 20:23:56 mumbles i HAVE Jan 24 20:24:02 works w/o issue Jan 24 20:27:10 mumbles: yeah I havent had issues... I think your issue is novacom Jan 24 20:27:20 hah that is IF you are having issues Jan 24 20:27:54 Tibfib: it was, but i tried the install novacom from webos and it worked Jan 24 20:28:05 * mumbles still loves his palm pre Jan 24 20:28:24 Ah. windows 7 requires different novacom installation instructions Jan 24 20:31:45 anyone know what this error message means Jan 24 20:32:20 onley have 0 avilavle blocks on filesystem /media/cryptofs/apps/ pkg com.palm repomanger needs 1 bad statfs? Jan 24 20:32:43 out of space? Jan 24 20:32:51 swiss: that's what I was going to say Jan 24 20:33:11 mumbles: the 1.3.5.2 moves the apps out into the usb partition Jan 24 20:33:23 which on the emulator isn't very big. Jan 24 20:34:04 any ideas on a fix? Jan 24 20:34:34 is your usb partition full e.g a lot of sound and movies? Jan 24 20:34:46 empty Jan 24 20:34:57 though my application bit might be full Jan 24 20:35:03 delating some stuff Jan 24 20:35:24 hi @all Jan 24 20:35:47 hi Jan 24 20:36:06 hi Jan 24 20:36:31 is this the right place when i can't get webOSquickinstall working? Jan 24 20:37:03 maybe Jan 24 20:37:11 what's the problem? Jan 24 20:38:01 any devs here that have used canvas? Jan 24 20:39:11 ok, i'll try to explain. i installed palm-novacom_1.0.46_i386.deb with alien on opensuse 11.2 and put my pre into developer mode. when i start novacomd and connect my pre via usb i get: [2010/1/24 21:36:16] novacom_usb_findandattach_thread:424: usb_handle 0x0805ecb0, bus 001 dev 007 Jan 24 20:39:19 [2010/1/24 21:36:16] novacom_usb_rx_thread:354: error reading packet, retry, rc: -1, errno 9 Jan 24 20:39:26 oh noes Jan 24 20:39:41 didn't we have that before with mandriva? Jan 24 20:40:01 i remember something similar Jan 24 20:40:16 he also converted the deb with alien Jan 24 20:40:22 i searched with google and found only this unresolved thread on precentral: http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre/220876-i-cant-find-any-way-installing-palm-software.html Jan 24 20:41:40 i tried the same in some virtual machines. with W7 and webos 1.3.1 it worked Jan 24 20:41:49 but now i have 1.3.5.2 Jan 24 20:42:16 the second-last post in that thread mentions that mandriva problem Jan 24 20:42:16 and it's not working any more Jan 24 20:43:16 not even in w7? Jan 24 20:43:21 no Jan 24 20:43:31 what is the problem there? Jan 24 20:44:47 i can't tell exactly because i don't know where to search for error messages in W7. i started webosquickinstall and all i get is "no device connected" Jan 24 20:45:17 sui: i had that one, did you click on the install novacom icon ? Jan 24 20:46:35 mumbles: in webosquickinstall? no, installing novacom was a harder process because i use the 64 bit ultimte version Jan 24 20:47:08 but i can start uo the virtual machine Jan 24 20:47:24 is opensuse in a virtual machine? Jan 24 20:47:36 sui: http://forums.precentral.net/web-os-development/195043-setting-up-novacom-windows-7-easier-method.html Jan 24 20:47:39 try that#? Jan 24 20:48:03 no idea if it will work for you though Jan 24 20:48:24 swisstomcat: yes, opensuse is my main and only OS Jan 24 20:48:45 ah, w7 is in a virtual machine then Jan 24 20:48:46 i use only virtual machines for my needs Jan 24 20:49:24 i'd try an ubuntu 9.10 virtual machine Jan 24 20:49:38 best supported platform for palm development Jan 24 20:49:47 mumbles: thats the howto is used to install novacom on w7. and it worked Jan 24 20:49:48 in my experience Jan 24 20:50:22 mumbles: but then i updated to webos 1.3.5.2 and it does not work any more Jan 24 20:50:49 swisstomcat: i have a virtual machine with ubuntu, too Jan 24 20:50:58 can you try there? Jan 24 20:51:09 it's 8.04 but it should work. Jan 24 20:51:28 here 9.04 64bit and 9.10 32bit work Jan 24 20:51:38 swisstomcat: still canvas issues? Jan 24 20:51:44 yeah Jan 24 20:51:48 a new application Jan 24 20:51:51 ok Jan 24 20:51:56 actually, a port of an existing one Jan 24 20:52:00 for fun Jan 24 20:52:02 something I could help you? Jan 24 20:52:12 swisstomcat: i tried yesterday but when i start webosquickinstall it wants to download webosdoctor. i have the german version of webosdoctor in the same directory but it wants todownload the file and i dont know why Jan 24 20:52:12 http://blobsallad.se/ Jan 24 20:53:12 metaview: what features of canvas have you used? Jan 24 20:53:27 sui: how do you start webosquickinstall? Jan 24 20:53:33 ok Jan 24 20:53:40 webos quick install wants a file with a SPECIFIC NAME Jan 24 20:53:45 images, pathes, fonts Jan 24 20:54:02 see: MapTool for example Jan 24 20:54:08 you can re-name your german webos doctor to that name and You'll be all good sui Jan 24 20:54:28 i have webOSDoctor.jar and WebOSQuickInstall.jar in the same directory Jan 24 20:54:52 since I switched to multi-stage app (haveing a app-assistant) I have errors on my Audio object: Jan 24 20:54:53 metaview: save,translate,rotate,restore Jan 24 20:55:02 No reference to scene Jan 24 20:55:02 TypeError: Object # has no method 'cmdConnect' Jan 24 20:55:04 Rick-home: which name? ... ah i still named it webosdoctorp100ueu-wr.jar. i tried a symbolic link Jan 24 20:55:14 sui: webOSDoctor.jar Jan 24 20:55:16 sui simply rename your webosdoctor to webosdoctor.jar and it will work. Jan 24 20:55:18 anyone knows somethign about it? Jan 24 20:55:24 symlink won't work Jan 24 20:55:34 good to know Jan 24 20:56:00 metaview: sorry, have not used multi-stage yet Jan 24 20:56:13 only multi-scene Jan 24 20:56:13 MetaView you're calling cmdConnect on something XXX.cmdConnect and the object you're tryuing to call isn't bound to the current scope and so the interpretor isn't finding it Jan 24 20:56:49 what are you calling MetaView ??? Jan 24 20:56:51 but it is in new Audio() Jan 24 20:56:58 this.audioPlayer = new Audio(); Jan 24 20:57:01 pastebin please Jan 24 20:58:20 http://www.pastebin.org/81757 Jan 24 20:59:33 there is no cmdConnect in my code Jan 24 20:59:48 ok, same in ubuntu. i connect my pre via usb and when i start webosquickinstall and click the blue error i get "error: no device connected" Jan 24 21:00:20 renamind the webosdoctor... file to the right name did it Jan 24 21:00:31 MetaView what version of webos are you running that on? Jan 24 21:00:45 metaview: i'm using this.audioPlayer = AudioTag.extendElement('audioDiv'); Jan 24 21:00:45 1.3.5.2 German Jan 24 21:01:05 MetaView did you include the multimedia object in the sources.json? Jan 24 21:01:11 I have no audio-div and it worked before I introduced the app-assistant.js Jan 24 21:01:17 yes Jan 24 21:01:30 don't need the div. Jan 24 21:01:32 /usr/palm/frameworks/media/media.js Jan 24 21:01:44 just lokking for it Jan 24 21:01:51 k Jan 24 21:02:14 it works without the div? Jan 24 21:02:16 hmm Jan 24 21:02:18 well then, that's officially wierd. Jan 24 21:02:24 yes it works without the div Jan 24 21:02:33 but possibly not with an app assistant without the div. Jan 24 21:02:40 I've never tried that. Jan 24 21:02:40 ah Jan 24 21:03:04 a pity Jan 24 21:03:09 in opensuse i can see my pre as usb device: scsi 8:0:0:0: Direct-Access Palm Pre 0000 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 but it does not appear in ubuntu Jan 24 21:03:14 ok, I try this div- what wil it show? Jan 24 21:03:40 ok, need to go back to the TV, Ins. Barneby Jan 24 21:03:43 sui: virtualbox? Jan 24 21:03:47 Hey TibFib Jan 24 21:04:06 swisstomcat: yes, and i activated usb passthrough Jan 24 21:04:09 sui the ubuntu is in a virtual machine? Jan 24 21:04:18 Rick-home: yes, it is Jan 24 21:04:29 and did you attach the usb connector to the virutal machine? Jan 24 21:04:30 virtualbox 3.1.2 Jan 24 21:04:54 have not tried that one yet Jan 24 21:05:00 and it will not work with the SDK Jan 24 21:05:14 (that aside) Jan 24 21:05:24 because usb is disabled by default in virtualbox Jan 24 21:05:36 Rick-home: yes, i did. it shows [ ] Palm Inc. Pre 0316 Jan 24 21:06:09 but you just got through telling me that ubuntu didn't see it. Jan 24 21:06:21 what did you MEAN? Jan 24 21:06:32 probably that virtualbox sees it Jan 24 21:06:45 if you attach/detach usb-devices Jan 24 21:07:02 Rick-home: i use dmesg to control connection of a usb device Jan 24 21:07:08 or are you saying that the ubuntu doesn't see it as a network device? Jan 24 21:08:16 sui, that didn't help me at all because I don't know what the heck it means. Here's what I know, you said a moment ago that your suse showed the palm, and that the ubuntu didn't. What exactly did you mean when you said that? Jan 24 21:08:18 Rick-home: in opensuse i see something like: usb-storage: device found at 9 when i connect the pre. dmesg in ubuntu gets nothing Jan 24 21:09:19 ok, and in VIRTUALBOX setup usb is enabled, and you've enabled the usb2.0 controller.... Jan 24 21:09:27 let my try my ubuntu virtual machine Jan 24 21:09:49 sui did you install the sdk on the ubuntu?? Jan 24 21:10:19 'cause if you don't have a novacom driver installed on the ubuntu, it wouldn't see the pre. Jan 24 21:10:35 anyoen use the myteather ? Jan 24 21:10:56 mumbles -- you understand that mytether is a deprecated, and seriously broken program? Jan 24 21:11:20 and that essentually, anywhere you ask you're going to get refered to the mytether support forums at aonic's web site???? Jan 24 21:11:30 Rick-home: which sdk do you mean? Jan 24 21:11:35 sui: if i connect the the to my virtual ubuntu server, i see the dmesg entries about usb storage Jan 24 21:11:38 the PALM sdk. Jan 24 21:11:42 the/pre Jan 24 21:12:05 swisstomcat me too, but I've installed novacom drivers on my ubuntu virtual server Jan 24 21:12:12 i have not Jan 24 21:12:16 weird. Jan 24 21:12:17 ok Jan 24 21:12:24 Rick-home: no i did not install the sdk. just novacom-1.0.4.deb Jan 24 21:12:24 sui said he did not even see the dmesg entries Jan 24 21:12:26 Rick-home: thats what i thought when i saw there site Jan 24 21:12:31 not going to risk it Jan 24 21:12:43 nodnod so, mumbles what's the problem and what are you trying to accomplish??? Jan 24 21:12:48 scsi 2:0:0:0: direct-access palm pre 000 pq: 0 ansi: 2 Jan 24 21:13:14 Rick-home: managed to mess up pre by dunkeley doing the update the wrong way Jan 24 21:13:24 sui: on your ubuntu virtual machine you don't see the dmesg entries when you connect the usb? Jan 24 21:13:24 i activated the usb-2.0 controller and set the filter for the palm pre Jan 24 21:13:27 messed up how? Jan 24 21:13:48 dident do the emagnacy patch stuff Jan 24 21:13:56 but thats fixed now Jan 24 21:14:07 kk Jan 24 21:14:14 and so now??? Jan 24 21:14:25 just havent parted and saw that mod Jan 24 21:15:08 so these are my usb settings: http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/138/usbo.jpg Jan 24 21:15:09 mumbles, how can we help you? Are you looking for some piece of informatin? Jan 24 21:15:26 you just provided it to me :P Jan 24 21:15:48 mumbles do you need wifi, or is usb tethering good enough for you? Jan 24 21:15:56 wifi would be nice Jan 24 21:16:03 that isn't what I asked. Jan 24 21:16:13 but usb tethering is probably better Jan 24 21:16:17 swisstomcat: yes, there are no dmesg entries in my virtual machine Jan 24 21:16:25 ok one quick moment Jan 24 21:16:32 so that's probably the root of the problem Jan 24 21:16:56 can you try a ubuntu 9.10 live-cd (or 9.04) Jan 24 21:17:30 Rick-home: k Jan 24 21:18:01 swisstomcat: i don't have a newer ubuntu here at home. Jan 24 21:18:10 download? Jan 24 21:18:18 if you have a fast connection Jan 24 21:18:37 mumbles, the application "freetether" is reliable and is safe. Jan 24 21:18:48 swisstomcat: not the fast i like to have. deutsche telekom :( Jan 24 21:18:49 but it's only available via the preware testing feeds. Jan 24 21:18:57 Do you know how to install an IPK? Jan 24 21:19:31 Rick-home: yeh Jan 24 21:19:42 see pm Jan 24 21:20:55 swisstomcat: i will downgrade virtualbox and after that the next step will be upgrading my ubunti to 9.04 Jan 24 21:21:49 great Jan 24 21:54:38 the moo update is now on preware: http://www.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/moo Jan 24 21:54:56 awww not working Jan 24 21:55:53 *hmpf* it's not working with an older version of vbox. when connecting the pre i can see it in the status bar of vbox but it's state is "not available" Jan 24 21:57:01 which version? Jan 24 21:57:03 of vbox Jan 24 21:57:13 is there any way to have the app catalogue into the palm emulator? Jan 24 21:57:22 Rick-home: what was the linux command line i needed? Jan 24 21:57:27 swisstomcat: i tried 3.0.12 and 3.1.2 Jan 24 21:58:04 hmm Jan 24 21:58:20 you don't have the OSE version, do you? Jan 24 21:59:43 swisstomcat: no Jan 24 22:00:01 let's check Jan 24 22:00:05 start the virtual machine Jan 24 22:00:09 maruku: no Jan 24 22:00:21 that's a pity... Jan 24 22:00:25 thx Jan 24 22:00:41 and then devices - usb - pre Jan 24 22:00:41 swisstomcat: let me check usb with a standard stick Jan 24 22:01:29 k Jan 24 22:08:59 hm, have to restart. brb Jan 24 22:17:00 got it Jan 24 22:17:03 :) Jan 24 22:17:13 it's working? Jan 24 22:17:55 yeah, there have been some opensuse related steps i had to do. Jan 24 22:18:22 cool Jan 24 22:18:49 i had to enter "usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs auto,busgid=XXX,busmode=0775,devgid=XXX,devmode=0664 0 0" to my fstab Jan 24 22:19:17 mounting decvices in kde does not mean that they are available in vbox Jan 24 22:19:53 oh Jan 24 22:20:06 now it works in opensuse? Jan 24 22:20:48 i have not tested it in opensuse. i was fixed in mind on ubuntu Jan 24 22:22:51 yeeaaahh... preware on my pre :) Jan 24 22:23:04 yiihaa Jan 24 22:23:14 now you can test moo ... my app Jan 24 22:23:45 :) Jan 24 22:24:16 http://www.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/moo Jan 24 22:24:18 it's a sort of "useless, but funny app"? Jan 24 22:24:33 you know it? Jan 24 22:24:53 no, i only looked on the website Jan 24 22:25:34 it's great for kids Jan 24 22:25:48 pretty funny, try it Jan 24 22:26:08 my other "useful" app only works in switzerland, i'm afraid Jan 24 22:26:17 svv? Jan 24 22:26:25 zvv fahrplan, yes Jan 24 22:26:54 i use bahnfahren. it's nice, too Jan 24 22:27:23 one of the most needed apps for me is openssh Jan 24 22:27:45 bahnfahren is very nice Jan 24 22:27:53 what apps do you miss? Jan 24 22:28:52 funambol or another way syncing with my linux box Jan 24 22:29:02 i know someone is working on that Jan 24 22:29:25 tine20 or zarafa have outloook connectors Jan 24 22:29:48 i think about installing one of them... Jan 24 22:30:58 i have a vserver. i like to keep my data in my hand :) Jan 24 22:31:48 ... installing moo ... Jan 24 22:32:05 i suppose my little daughter will like it Jan 24 22:32:30 a good test subject i think :) Jan 24 22:32:37 my son loves it Jan 24 22:32:58 she likes swiping the pictures i made. Jan 24 22:34:44 lol. it's nice Jan 24 22:35:18 how old is your son? Jan 24 22:35:37 almost 2 Jan 24 22:36:15 could you figure out everything? Jan 24 22:38:03 they are all ok Jan 24 22:38:48 wow. preware now has 2851 packages Jan 24 22:39:31 las time i looked it had only ~280 Jan 24 22:40:00 it has all the palm app store apps too Jan 24 22:40:13 and themes Jan 24 22:40:18 Rick-home: awww cant get thereing to work Jan 24 22:40:37 then... can i test need for speed? Jan 24 22:40:49 only in the US Jan 24 22:40:56 because you can't buy apps in europe yet Jan 24 22:41:12 :( Jan 24 22:41:31 w00t I have a 1.4% click through rate on my new app :D Jan 24 22:41:44 we'll get this in march i suppose Jan 24 22:41:44 what does that mean, crasheed? Jan 24 22:41:50 yeah, apparently Jan 24 22:42:11 it means people are clicking my ads and making me money :D Jan 24 22:42:26 crasheed: when did you add ads? Jan 24 22:42:32 after I used it? Jan 24 22:42:33 last night Jan 24 22:42:36 yea Jan 24 22:42:38 :D Jan 24 22:42:40 after u tested it tibfib Jan 24 22:42:45 I'm not downloading it again. :P Jan 24 22:42:47 check it out it's in homebrew now Jan 24 22:42:51 Rofl Jan 24 22:42:54 lol dude Jan 24 22:42:57 someone has already Jan 24 22:42:59 used 34 downloads Jan 24 22:43:01 in 1 hours Jan 24 22:43:13 Nice Jan 24 22:43:18 your tied with 2 other people in 2nd place with 17 downloads Jan 24 22:43:40 i have to go to bed now. Jan 24 22:43:42 hah. well I had it earliest Jan 24 22:43:45 gn8 Jan 24 22:44:07 hah. it is 5 where I'm at. Jan 24 22:44:12 Good evening Jan 24 22:44:15 it's 2:44pm here Jan 24 22:44:21 10:44 Jan 24 22:44:23 pm Jan 24 22:44:30 11:45 Jan 24 22:44:31 11:44 pm Jan 24 22:44:33 pm Jan 24 22:44:35 yes Jan 24 22:44:52 have to go to work tomorrow ... Jan 24 22:45:16 see again tomorrow :) Jan 24 22:45:34 yeah, 23:45 Jan 24 22:45:57 i have so many ideas Jan 24 22:46:18 crasheed: which app? Jan 24 22:46:41 Music Wave Jan 24 22:47:02 http://www.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/music-wave-lite Jan 24 22:50:41 whoa, my downloads jumped from 4900 to 5200 in like an hour Jan 24 22:51:04 =-O Jan 24 22:51:55 swisstomcat: whats yours? Jan 24 22:52:09 http://www.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/moo Jan 24 22:53:14 oh, the audio works again, cool :) Jan 24 22:54:21 what did you change? Jan 24 22:54:41 this.audioPlayer = AudioTag.extendElement(this.controller.get('audioDiv')); Jan 24 22:54:51 it was //this.audioPlayer = new Audio(); before Jan 24 22:55:17 trying to add an alarm clock Jan 24 22:57:21 it would make me sleep better, if I would be able to access the alarm I've set, like a query function Jan 24 22:59:23 didn't rick say that you don't need the audio-div? Jan 24 23:00:48 check the clock source, metaview Jan 24 23:02:09 you seem to need the div if you have an app-assistant, looks like at least Jan 24 23:03:13 would need to hide this div now... Jan 24 23:04:08
Jan 24 23:04:35 i didn't have to hide mine tho Jan 24 23:04:46 greetings Jan 24 23:04:57 there are no controls but some pixel with white background Jan 24 23:05:01 greetings Jan 24 23:05:34 hoping to submit the free version of my first app tonight or tomorrow Jan 24 23:05:41 cool Jan 24 23:05:43 what is i? Jan 24 23:05:46 it Jan 24 23:06:17 physics based painting app Jan 24 23:06:45 like roll a doodle? Jan 24 23:06:56 no, using your finger Jan 24 23:07:06 but real-time weighted smoothing Jan 24 23:07:16 interesting Jan 24 23:07:27 can we test it? Jan 24 23:07:47 don't see what not Jan 24 23:07:49 why* Jan 24 23:08:34 i'll host it up in a while, and post the link Jan 24 23:09:14 great Jan 24 23:09:36 do you guys compress your JS before submitting? Jan 24 23:09:47 i'm not Jan 24 23:09:53 codeslaw: I dont.. Maybe I should with my bigger apps Jan 24 23:10:21 new to JS, so not entirely sure, but are there performance improvements aside from filesize? Jan 24 23:16:06 back in a while Jan 24 23:17:28 gn8 Jan 24 23:18:20 gn8 Jan 24 23:18:24 cu tomrrow Jan 24 23:46:04 hi all Jan 24 23:46:47 howdy Jen P Jan 24 23:47:35 hey LoneStar99 Jan 24 23:50:39 jenp Jan 24 23:50:51 hey haeffb_gon4bball! app looks good! Jan 24 23:51:24 doesn't it? Thanks for the inspiration! Jan 24 23:51:34 glad i could help Jan 25 00:29:52 rwhitby: ping Jan 25 00:32:36 need to add a "snooze" to my dashboard alerts... Jan 25 01:02:52 lol it's so funny to watch stats Jan 25 01:03:04 I've had 1166 people download my app in the past few hours Jan 25 01:03:11 but only 2!!! people reviewed Jan 25 01:39:58 Anyone in here have any thumbs up/thumbs down command menu images? Jan 25 01:40:02 I know it's a long shot...hah Jan 25 01:48:16 hey Jan 25 01:48:43 hey atlanta in fla.. Jan 25 01:48:50 Bmyers: my man Jan 25 01:48:50 wsup Jan 25 01:48:59 21 21 Jan 25 01:49:17 how u doing down there? Jan 25 01:49:38 good good Jan 25 01:49:44 was nice and warm Jan 25 01:49:48 went car shopponmj Jan 25 01:49:50 shoppin Jan 25 01:50:14 looking for a new ride? Jan 25 01:50:22 yea old one got totalled out Jan 25 01:51:16 hey guys Jan 25 01:51:23 o right... Jan 25 01:51:26 hi Jenp Jan 25 01:51:36 hey JenP Jan 25 01:51:37 hows the QOS today? Jan 25 01:51:38 how's it going? Jan 25 01:51:38 Hi Jen Jan 25 01:51:44 Rick-home! Jan 25 01:51:53 hit a coding wall.... Jan 25 01:53:51 what r u looking at getting atlanta ? Jan 25 01:54:10 2010 corolla S Jan 25 01:55:26 good mpg? Jan 25 01:56:12 yup yup Jan 25 01:56:16 37 Jan 25 01:56:31 28 city Jan 25 01:58:43 geeze.. not bad at all Jan 25 01:59:13 and you can still fit a full sheet of plywood in it? amazing... Jan 25 02:10:44 can anyone think of any homebrew apps that use thumbs up/thumbs down command menu images? I know pandora uses them but asking and getting rights from them to use thme would be a pain Jan 25 02:21:08 Is the WebOS browser SVG-ok? Jan 25 02:24:14 Tibfib: just make ur own Jan 25 02:24:19 SVG ? Jan 25 02:24:33 atlanta: heh. Thought about that. I'm incabable. Jan 25 02:33:24 Tibfib you just want public domain thumb images ??? Jan 25 02:33:30 ((up and down is just a flip)) Jan 25 02:35:24 rick: sure Jan 25 02:35:59 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Symbol_thumbs_up.svg Jan 25 02:36:22 the power of google Jan 25 02:36:39 images.google.com search thumbs up pd and taadaa..... Jan 25 02:45:05 rick: I had looked, but was hoping someone had already made a nice one for the command menus Jan 25 02:52:42 is yahoo borked for anyone else? Jan 25 02:52:57 my calendar and address book have been bitching that my password is wrong for the past week Jan 25 02:53:06 can't get it to login Jan 25 02:54:23 wow this was the dumbest programming addon palm every did **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jan 25 02:59:56 2010