**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Feb 10 02:59:58 2010 Feb 10 03:33:50 ah hah! my wii fit stair stepper platform came in Feb 10 03:39:23 haeffp: oooh nice site....what host are u using? Feb 10 03:39:33 nice! JenP Feb 10 03:41:45 haeffb: ugg...typo see haeffp message Feb 10 03:43:11 yeah it's super cool Feb 10 03:44:22 i heard it was col especially the fit + Feb 10 03:44:32 yeah i got that too Feb 10 03:44:54 i've pretty much got every game and accessory the wii fit has Feb 10 03:46:01 wow, neato Feb 10 03:46:03 so your virtual exercise system now has a virtual stair stepper? Feb 10 03:46:12 yep! Feb 10 03:46:22 it puts the board 5 inches up Feb 10 03:46:29 which you purchased with virtual money? Feb 10 03:46:38 hehehe I'm probably gonna fall on my face when i try it tomorrow AM Feb 10 03:46:41 I wish Feb 10 03:47:04 jenP and a pair of 4x4's and some velcro tape or a set of cement blocks would not have worked why? Feb 10 03:47:06 really neat dumbells...the controllers go inside it Feb 10 03:47:27 cause it wouldn't match my cool new shoes!!! Feb 10 03:47:39 Girls.... Feb 10 03:48:02 smiles...yup...i so love being a girl....so much better shopping Feb 10 03:54:20 and the uggs Feb 10 04:00:37 Howdy Feb 10 04:00:49 hi scottb Feb 10 04:01:04 Hows every thing this evening? Feb 10 04:01:13 Could any one tell me how to allow horizontal overflow on the body of a scene? Feb 10 04:03:46 scottb: you can install a horizontal scroller and place whatev content you want that behavior for inside it Feb 10 04:03:47 you wrap the body of the scene in a horizontal scroller Feb 10 04:03:53 first! Feb 10 04:03:59 true Feb 10 04:04:03 lol Feb 10 04:04:19 this is where google wave would come in handy Feb 10 04:04:41 scottb: you'll have to disable the automatic scroller Feb 10 04:04:58 oh man Feb 10 04:05:02 irc -> wave Feb 10 04:05:13 freakin brilliant Feb 10 04:05:33 jfelectron why? You can put the horizontal scroller inside the vertical scroller. Or (rick's favorite) you can use a FREE scroller. Feb 10 04:05:40 jfelectron: justhost.com Feb 10 04:06:25 rick-home: OK, but sometimes things get confused and the correct scroller doesn't scroll Feb 10 04:06:32 jfelectron: thanks :) Feb 10 04:06:40 but sure try without Feb 10 04:07:04 haeffb: OK cool, thanks...need to do that myself Feb 10 04:07:52 talk to you kids later...heading home Feb 10 04:08:58 The guys doing the documentation must be lazy Feb 10 04:09:11 Almost every one of the samples has syntax errors out of the box... Feb 10 04:12:16 well also, api's were changing rapidly when those docs were being written, one would presume Feb 10 04:13:35 Just frustrating some times -_- Feb 10 04:13:45 ya Feb 10 04:13:51 I need to cool my jets, the fact that it's JS is awesome Feb 10 04:14:20 Just hard to build meaningful apps when every thing you want to do is impossible to find documentation on that is accurate Feb 10 04:14:26 watching Fletch while i try some stuff out Feb 10 04:14:58 well there are strong community efforts to document the code as well Feb 10 04:25:44 So the documentation doesn't have a name for the scroll widget, any idea what it is? (ie Mojo.Menu.appMenu ) Feb 10 04:33:10 Hmm, nm, got it working Feb 10 04:33:14 Thank god for webos101 Feb 10 04:33:37 scottb http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1544&Itemid=44 Feb 10 04:33:43 scroll down to scroller.... Feb 10 04:34:36 scottb the guys doing the documentation are fighting the fact that the guys writing the kernal are releasing a new one every 60 days or so. Feb 10 04:34:49 this stuff keeps changing Feb 10 04:35:28 And I understand that, my gripe is with syntax that is entirely wrong Feb 10 04:35:36 Code that isn't valid JS Feb 10 04:35:53 The outdated docs suck but I know why they are outdated Feb 10 04:35:57 oh that. Yeah, that sucks. Feb 10 04:36:06 we spend a lot of time reading palm code around here. Feb 10 04:36:12 the actual code works (mostly) Feb 10 04:36:27 mojomatters and stylematters are your friend. Feb 10 04:36:35 Extra brackets, missing quotes, and syntactically incorrect every thing in-between makes it frustrating Feb 10 04:36:44 nodnod Feb 10 04:37:12 Hmm, scroller may not be what I'm after Feb 10 04:37:35 what do you want scottb? Feb 10 04:37:38 It wants to jump back to 0,0 when I scroll for some reason =/ Feb 10 04:38:08 I have a grid that is any where between 100 by 100 to 1000 by 1000 and I want to be able to freely pan around it Feb 10 04:38:34 scottb you want a FREE scroller. Feb 10 04:38:46 vertical AND horizontal in one package. Feb 10 04:38:48 I'm using free mode yet it snaps back to the origin Feb 10 04:39:03 huh. Mine don't Feb 10 04:39:19 uh Feb 10 04:39:26 unless you have a div that has focus. Feb 10 04:39:38 you need to set focus off if you have input fields. Feb 10 04:39:46 No input's Feb 10 04:39:49 Just a div around a table Feb 10 04:43:23 argh, i can't accept the fact that i owe on my taxes this year Feb 10 04:51:31 Yeah, not sure whats up, disabled the scene scroller and still have it snapping =/ Feb 10 06:01:48 booorreeeddd Feb 10 06:03:29 wanna do some preware webOS coding? Feb 10 06:52:09 * pandora-- waves Feb 10 07:18:28 hey peeps Feb 10 07:20:18 do banners work in the emulator? Feb 10 07:20:49 I tried a simple one with just a string and the command executes without error, but no banner :( Feb 10 07:24:38 yo Feb 10 10:42:00 * ivanst yawns Feb 10 11:27:15 how can i install an application ive developed in the palm pre device? Feb 10 11:30:12 ohuerta: hook up your pre to your pc, put it in dev mode, and then palm-install your ipk file Feb 10 11:40:14 how can i choose the dev mode Feb 10 11:40:14 ¿ Feb 10 11:40:17 ivanst? Feb 10 11:40:25 ah... Feb 10 11:40:30 sorry, i was away :D Feb 10 11:40:46 np, i just typed it Feb 10 11:41:03 anyway, you go to the pre's home screen and type in "webos20090606" Feb 10 11:41:19 the find reveals an app you cannot access otherwise called "developer mode enabler" Feb 10 11:41:51 you run it, toggle the switch and then reboot your device Feb 10 11:42:29 ok itry it 1 sec Feb 10 11:46:01 morning Feb 10 11:56:35 hullo :) Feb 10 12:15:19 what's up? Feb 10 12:24:38 hallo noaXess Feb 10 13:36:34 hihi Feb 10 14:06:56 hi Feb 10 14:07:28 any native english speaker here? Feb 10 14:07:43 here == on keyboard atm. Feb 10 14:08:04 MetaView: hi Feb 10 14:08:30 english is essentially the only language I speak :) Feb 10 14:08:54 kmudrick: cool, wait I present you some lines of text, could you tell me if you understand it? Feb 10 14:09:06 ok Feb 10 14:09:18 Safe Alarm will popup a dialog when the alarm is triggered. When you don't close this dialog Feb 10 14:09:18 during the following 15 minutes the device will start to vibrate/play a rooster cry in a one Feb 10 14:09:18 minute intervall. Dismiss the dialog and it will stop. This shall prevent you from oversleeping Feb 10 14:09:18 even without network connection. Feb 10 14:10:57 let me change a couple things - hold on Feb 10 14:11:06 thx Feb 10 14:12:21 Safe Alarm will pop up a dialog when the alarm is triggered. If you don't close this dialog during the 15 minutes following the alarm, the device will begin to vibrate/play a rooster cry in one minute intervals. Dismiss the dialog and this behavior will stop. This will prevent you from oversleeping even without network connection. Feb 10 14:13:00 cool, thx Feb 10 14:13:17 np Feb 10 14:13:47 It's part of next version of ÜberRadio Feb 10 14:29:54 wut up, webos? Feb 10 14:33:59 webos? Isn't dead yet :D Feb 10 14:34:31 ÜberRadio updated, if someone interested Feb 10 14:34:52 webos is livin' large Feb 10 15:26:48 Guten morgen Feb 10 15:27:28 guten morgen to you Kuraiou. Except where you are is it morning? Feb 10 15:28:06 oh, I don't actually know German, I just like greeting people in different languages. >.> I'm in Chicago; it's 9:28 right now over here. Feb 10 15:28:12 haha Feb 10 15:28:41 Kuraiou hows the weather today? Feb 10 15:29:16 no longer snowy, but the roads are still a mess. Supposedly 40mph winds are in the forecast. Feb 10 15:29:20 also, there was an earthquake last night. Feb 10 15:29:36 WHAT!?!?!?!?! Feb 10 15:31:21 good god! 4.3 eearthquake centered just north of chicago. Wow. Feb 10 15:32:54 It is the ragnarök. The end is near Feb 10 15:32:56 =) Feb 10 15:35:52 anyone have a pixi they could test something one? Feb 10 15:35:57 (one-on) Feb 10 15:36:04 (- means =) Feb 10 15:36:06 :P Feb 10 15:40:52 Hyvää paivää Feb 10 15:41:01 lyht: are you using Ares instead of the emulator? Feb 10 15:41:07 the latest ver. of the emulator can do a 320 x 400 pixi mode. Feb 10 15:41:28 woo, my app update finally went through last night. Feb 10 15:42:21 no, using emu... and it seems to work there. But it is always nice to have it checked on a real device (especially since the reason it got rejected was because of a bug that only affected pixis) Feb 10 15:51:28 morning everyone Feb 10 15:54:09 morning LoneStar99 Feb 10 16:02:33 mornming Feb 10 16:09:05 morning morning morning. Feb 10 16:13:39 trying to figure out how, I would do the following: need to save up to 5 different items in a cookie, but not all five items may be choosen. what is the best way to save up to 5 items dynamically? Feb 10 16:13:57 LoneStar99: did you forget about the bakery? Feb 10 16:14:21 make all the dough values undefined and only update the ones they pick Feb 10 16:16:14 LoneStar99: if it is an array (or rather a json object) you are sticking in there... the cookie would not care what was included. var toStore = { option1 : "yes", option3 : "no" }; Feb 10 16:16:28 cookieObject.put(toStore); Feb 10 16:20:09 sugardave: no, i am totally using the bakery, the issue is how to save each "choice" with a tap occurs Feb 10 16:20:16 love the bakery Feb 10 16:21:32 sugardave: let me post something on pastebin, the problem is not the cookie, but how to go about saving in most efficient manner. Feb 10 16:25:33 LoneStar99: you just save them all....grab all the values every time the button is pressed Feb 10 16:28:24 erg, work is upgrading our "special wireless" package...hope they don't screw it up this time Feb 10 16:29:14 http://pastebin.com/d272c091e Feb 10 16:30:00 sugardave: just not sure how to save more than one dynamically... Feb 10 16:32:32 well, you're only ever saving one: scl Feb 10 16:39:31 http://pastebin.com/d1e55067c Feb 10 16:40:35 LoneStar: hash Feb 10 16:40:39 $H() Feb 10 16:41:34 the way I handle preferences is that I have a regular JS hash ({}) and on update I set the value and put it into the cookie. Feb 10 16:41:49 if you have dynamic options/strings, you have to use a Hash object. Feb 10 16:41:54 well, you don't /have/ to Feb 10 16:41:56 but it's way easier. Feb 10 16:42:30 egads, what are you doing here o_O Feb 10 16:42:46 store your preferences elsewhere -- don't manipulate the cookie directly Feb 10 16:42:51 just put and get from it Feb 10 16:42:53 Kuraiou: ok will looking into hash Feb 10 16:43:01 when I get home from work I can send you my Preferences class Feb 10 16:43:13 http://www.prototypejs.org/api/hash Feb 10 16:43:34 was jsut looking that thanks Feb 10 18:40:38 Hey there. Can anyone help me set an image as wallpaper? Or at least make it show up in the Photos app ? Feb 10 18:43:27 photos app i'm not sure I can do, but the set as wallpaper shouldn't be too hard, lemme see if I can find it in the docs Feb 10 18:45:27 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1538&Itemid=20#wallaper-importWallpaper Feb 10 18:45:28 ja-jan! Feb 10 18:45:38 i tried it Feb 10 18:45:39 and it doesn't seem to work Feb 10 18:45:45 d'oh. Feb 10 18:45:51 I download an image, then try to set it as wallpaper Feb 10 18:46:52 post your code on pastebin? Feb 10 18:46:52 the strange thing is that the onSuccess method is called Feb 10 18:46:59 sure, give me a second Feb 10 18:47:37 once the wallpaper is imported you need to use the wallpaper json object passed in to the setPreferences function Feb 10 18:48:21 i saw that mentioned in the forums Feb 10 18:48:38 but what would be the preferences key for setting the wallpaper ? Feb 10 18:48:39 http://pastebin.com/d5e36a17e Feb 10 18:50:00 yeah Feb 10 18:50:05 before you do the refresh system call Feb 10 18:50:23 do a setPreferences call, with the key "wallpaper" Feb 10 18:50:33 thank you, let me try Feb 10 18:50:55 if you're not sure Feb 10 18:51:03 open up a new app and spit out the getPreferences results Feb 10 18:51:08 which should return a list of available preferences to set Feb 10 18:51:11 and their current values Feb 10 18:51:33 oh Feb 10 18:51:34 i didn't think at that Feb 10 18:51:39 thanks! Feb 10 18:52:24 hopefully that works^^ Feb 10 18:56:20 didn't work ( Feb 10 18:56:28 :( Feb 10 18:56:28 i see a "error: null" in the console Feb 10 19:07:34 error: null -> Mojo.Log.error() with a string which is too long Feb 10 19:17:43 just looked at lost on abc.com. video quality was perfect (surprised) Feb 10 19:18:09 i assume this will work on the pre once flash comes out Feb 10 19:19:34 I missed a free Google handy today... Feb 10 19:24:31 is there a good way to ensure the screen is on? Feb 10 19:30:38 heya Feb 10 19:31:55 hi swisstomcat Feb 10 19:31:59 can you read me? Feb 10 19:32:05 hallo metaview Feb 10 19:32:10 yes, loud and clear Feb 10 19:32:15 nice :) Feb 10 19:32:28 noone speaks with me Feb 10 19:32:47 why not? Feb 10 19:33:00 I need to switch the screen on and I want to know if I can prevent my alert dlg to dismiss on its own after 8 minutes Feb 10 19:33:14 I don't know why noone speaks with me Feb 10 19:36:50 http://www.thinmachine.ch/service.html Feb 10 19:36:58 application translation service Feb 10 19:39:38 hehe, if you need help on German, write me :) Feb 10 19:39:46 btw. you don't have to tranlsate Feb 10 19:39:52 translate Feb 10 19:41:05 hehe Feb 10 19:41:18 nothing is worse than a machine translation Feb 10 19:41:25 you don't have to but it's better Feb 10 19:41:31 it makes it usually impossible to understand what the app does... Feb 10 19:41:39 yeah, and machine translations are bad .. i agree Feb 10 19:41:51 that's why i'm offering this service Feb 10 19:41:55 free for open source apps Feb 10 19:44:00 how am I supposed to get the stagecontroller? Feb 10 19:44:32 found it Feb 10 20:16:02 Rick_work: in case you sent me email last night, I didn't get it Feb 10 21:07:26 sent just now sugardave Feb 10 21:07:31 bbl Feb 10 22:02:23 a slow evening it seems Feb 10 22:23:44 ping metaview Feb 10 22:26:55 g'night Feb 10 22:29:03 is calling addClassName faster than setting the classname property to "newClassName oldClassName"? I assumed addClassName just implemented this same functionality on the backend. Feb 10 22:35:06 pong... he's gone Feb 10 22:44:54 Soooo guys, got another question. Feb 10 22:45:41 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1871&Itemid=239#.Scroller I know you can use the method "revealBottom" in a scroller widget, but is there an easy way to use it with the scene's scroller? or do I need to put the scenes content into my own scroller? Feb 10 22:47:14 hi Feb 10 22:47:21 Hi guys! I have a problem. I'm trying to add event listener in the scene file in such way: document.getElementById('header1').addEventListener('click', geoeat(), false); but it don't work :( Feb 10 22:48:32 alexander_v: are you using IE? Feb 10 22:49:11 No IE. I use Palm Emulator Feb 10 22:49:24 yeah, lol, forgot it was #webos, not #javascript Feb 10 22:49:36 heh Feb 10 22:49:38 hahaha Feb 10 22:49:39 alexander_v: anyway, the second item is a reference to a function, so it should be just the function's name Feb 10 22:49:52 so, should be just geoeat not geoeat() Feb 10 22:50:27 alexander_v: ^ Feb 10 22:50:30 Tibfib: getSecene Scroller? Feb 10 22:51:44 would like to gave the step for an integer picker Feb 10 22:52:59 I did it, but there is a same result. Only
works Feb 10 22:54:11 Mojo.Event.listen(this.controller.get('close'), Mojo.Event.tap, this.closeBtn.bind(this)); Feb 10 22:57:16 I want to add listener in scene html file, not in assistant. Is it possible? Feb 10 22:58:24 why would you? Feb 10 22:58:39 alexander_v: it's best practice to do it the Mojo way Feb 10 22:58:47 at the end it's all the same Feb 10 22:59:02 Feb 10 23:03:20 works in web browser, but doesn't work in palm emulator Feb 10 23:04:31 (I'm trying make wrapper class for widgets) Feb 10 23:04:35 where is geoat() defined? Feb 10 23:05:20 geoeat is defined in external JS Feb 10 23:05:24 Feb 10 23:06:35 hm Feb 10 23:06:41 no clue, sry Feb 10 23:07:54 MetaView: scroller = Mojo.Controller.SceneController.getSceneScroller(); Feb 10 23:07:54 scroller.revealBottom(); doesn't work Feb 10 23:08:50 oh, ok Feb 10 23:08:55 :/ Feb 10 23:09:02 just tried it based on your suggestion Feb 10 23:09:10 but you could scroll it to the bottom on your own, hm Feb 10 23:09:31 I could just add my own scroller.... Feb 10 23:09:32 well, I usually use my own scroller, as I always forget about the build in one Feb 10 23:09:53 Well maybe not Feb 10 23:10:07 I'd have to change a lot of references to push scene to disable the scene scroller Feb 10 23:11:15 anyone from palm know? Feb 10 23:17:30 hi everyone Feb 10 23:17:38 So I have one global question. Feb 10 23:17:38 Is it possible to write webos application without using scenes? If it is really to replace scenes with DIVs (active scene = visible div, other divs are invisible). Feb 10 23:17:38 And is it possible to gather all the widget setup/showing methods in some wrapper class (i want to make cross-platform application in future)? Feb 10 23:19:20 i am trying to run my palm emulator but it is showing the error that the vitual machine "Palm SDK 1.3.5.368 (320*400)" is already in use.. Feb 10 23:19:34 can anyone tell me what is this error? Feb 10 23:19:45 Yatharth: The emulator is already running. >.< Feb 10 23:20:05 but where? Feb 10 23:20:07 <_azdak> - Prolly, though I wouldn't expect to get it past Palm Feb 10 23:20:08 Ctrl-alt-delete and end the process Feb 10 23:20:16 if you cant, then restart your computer Feb 10 23:20:22 it is not showing it running anywhere Feb 10 23:20:26 hi there Feb 10 23:20:31 restart your computer then.... Feb 10 23:20:44 hi Bmyers Feb 10 23:20:47 kk.. Feb 10 23:20:48 nonono Feb 10 23:20:49 Yatharth Feb 10 23:20:50 let me try Feb 10 23:20:50 hold up! Feb 10 23:20:55 ok Feb 10 23:20:55 open up VirtualBox separately Feb 10 23:21:13 it should show your Palm SDK 1.3.5.368 (320*400) as either "Active" or "Aborted" Feb 10 23:21:15 ok Feb 10 23:21:21 click on it and click "start" Feb 10 23:21:24 then go to Machine... Shut Down Feb 10 23:21:28 Ah, that would work too... :D Feb 10 23:21:36 when it shuts down it should say "off" on the 320*400 Feb 10 23:21:40 then you can start it up via emulator again. Feb 10 23:21:47 I ran into the same problem when VB crashed on me mid-testing Feb 10 23:21:59 <_azdak> yah, has happened to me as well Feb 10 23:22:09 hey kuraiou thanx alot Feb 10 23:22:14 its running now Feb 10 23:22:19 \o/ Feb 10 23:22:21 you're welcome! Feb 10 23:22:34 it happens when you don't shut it down right... >.< Feb 10 23:22:51 yep :( Feb 10 23:30:44 so....it is impossible to take an Ares project and bring it into Eclipse for launch? Feb 10 23:36:38 how do you work these spinner buttons? http://webos.pastebin.com/d1aeaeef9 Feb 10 23:37:32 my label gets updated but no spinner Feb 10 23:38:29 ever use a spinner button sugardave: ? Feb 10 23:41:38 Bmyers: yeah, you're probably missing something simple Feb 10 23:41:57 pastebin something Feb 10 23:42:12 oh there it is Feb 10 23:42:13 :D Feb 10 23:45:41 Bmyers: I set my type in the attributes, that's about the difference Feb 10 23:52:17 i can try that i suppose. looks ok otherwise? Feb 10 23:54:16 sugardave: that was it. Thanks man!! Feb 10 23:58:34 'lo Feb 11 00:14:35 Gareth: you mean #webos-internals Feb 11 00:15:03 Gareth: noticed the page update. thanks! Feb 11 00:16:58 Bmyers: cool Feb 11 00:17:36 I wish there was an easy way to put spinner in view/command menus Feb 11 00:18:27 rwhitby: no worries. lemme know if you guys need anything else. Feb 11 00:18:28 Mousey: do I? Feb 11 00:18:37 pretty sure Feb 11 00:19:01 Gareth: yeah, we hang out in #webos-internals Feb 11 00:19:11 ah gotcha. Feb 11 00:19:17 * Gareth moves Feb 11 00:20:37 * haeffb_pre sitting on the side of the road...outta gas. Feb 11 00:22:32 haeffb: too many myles :) Feb 11 00:29:59 haeffb_pre: at least you know how far away the next gas station is.. Feb 11 00:30:58 yeah. I could see it. Feb 11 00:37:04 howdy folks Feb 11 00:52:09 hi LoneStar99: Feb 11 01:00:27 Hello Feb 11 01:00:47 Can anyone help me set my Palm app to download a photo to the phone ? Feb 11 01:15:47 zrgiu: you'll want to use the download manager service Feb 11 01:16:16 zrgiu: ? Feb 11 01:16:25 sorry Feb 11 01:16:28 zrgiu: http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1790&Itemid=273 Feb 11 01:16:34 yes, i used that Feb 11 01:16:37 and it's buggy Feb 11 01:16:42 hi all! Feb 11 01:16:43 buggy how? Feb 11 01:16:46 i found a workaround on the forums though Feb 11 01:16:51 well, it does the download Feb 11 01:17:05 i can see the file on my computer when in USB Drive mode Feb 11 01:17:13 but the file doesn't show in the Photos app Feb 11 01:17:21 zrgiu: do you have a link to the forum thread? Feb 11 01:17:27 here you go Feb 11 01:17:28 https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=3791&p=15142&hilit=download+image#p15142 Feb 11 01:17:39 ahh...OK I haven't used it for that purpose...good to know Feb 11 01:19:35 hi Jenp: Feb 11 01:19:49 hey Bmyers how ya doing? Feb 11 01:25:31 doing ok. how's it going tonight? Feb 11 01:26:05 ok...cranky...boss shaved another 6 days off deadline. We're all kind of in shock Feb 11 01:27:13 bummer. Feb 11 01:27:17 gonna make it? Feb 11 01:27:32 we'll do our best. that's all i can say Feb 11 01:27:40 i'm making no promises Feb 11 01:29:33 either you do or you dont eh? Feb 11 01:29:41 yeah Feb 11 01:30:00 how's guys rules coming along Feb 11 01:30:29 i thought about you when i went into the girls restroom. We females do not have those issues you mentioned Feb 11 01:31:08 it's not just about the restroom Feb 11 01:31:23 lol yup Feb 11 01:31:33 every aspect of male life is governed by these rules.. Feb 11 01:31:42 hmmm....is Inspector totally useless for multistage apps? I just see head and body with no content :( Feb 11 01:31:47 JenP: Preware Italian translation is now in the git repo. Feb 11 01:31:58 jfelectron: yup Feb 11 01:32:08 damn....well that's great Feb 11 01:32:24 oh rod that's great! Feb 11 01:32:56 rwhitby: totally slacking on that klingon localization though, I see :P Feb 11 01:37:51 too bad google translate does not do klingon Feb 11 01:39:42 i thought it did? Feb 11 01:40:11 i translated something into klingon and then back to English and it was hilarious Feb 11 01:41:40 I'm so impatient, I wan't my app to go live! Feb 11 01:42:18 is there an easy way to know if your app is running on the emulator? Feb 11 01:45:05 Look at the emulator screen? Feb 11 01:46:45 thanks scottb: Feb 11 01:47:06 i mean programically Feb 11 02:12:07 Not sure you can Feb 11 02:12:17 Oh wait you can Feb 11 02:12:45 Use a system sound without an onfailure method and it will throw an exception, wrap that in a try catch Feb 11 02:16:33 i found something that'll work. thanks Feb 11 02:16:40 Bmyers: webos101.com/DeviceInfo Feb 11 02:18:03 thanks sugardave: i was just checking the ssid of the wifi to see if it was Emulator Feb 11 02:18:13 anyone ever used linkshare.com? Feb 11 02:18:15 but this looks better. Feb 11 02:18:22 ah, I just use that modelNameAscii string Feb 11 02:19:18 Good day in ad revenue Feb 11 02:20:23 sugardave hi -- Doc -- Hi Bmyers long time no see. Feb 11 02:20:31 Hey rick Feb 11 02:20:48 doc, hey missed you coming in Feb 11 02:20:56 Just arrived Feb 11 02:21:02 contgrats on your good day. Feb 11 02:21:14 Dave, did you get a chance to look at chapter 4? Feb 11 02:21:40 I did and then got side-tracked trying to get svn working Feb 11 02:22:13 but, I'm through that now Feb 11 02:22:16 :D Feb 11 02:25:57 Did I write something wrong? Feb 11 02:26:02 or just not detailed enough? Feb 11 02:26:58 oh, no I had begun messing with it before I got the chapter....that stuff is fine, I was under the impression I could somehow sync from ares and eclipse and write my non-Ares stuff then run it locally...that doesn't work Feb 11 02:27:16 ah Feb 11 02:27:20 well, you -can- do that. Feb 11 02:27:28 yeah, just have to go back to ares Feb 11 02:27:37 I finally have a process...it sucks Feb 11 02:27:39 but it works Feb 11 02:29:13 hi Doc and rick-home: . nice to see you all here. Feb 11 02:29:24 Hey Bmyers Feb 11 02:30:18 you don't have to go back to ares. You can build an ares ipk on your local machine. Feb 11 02:30:39 hi doc! hi rick! Feb 11 02:30:44 Hello Jen Feb 11 02:30:45 Hi Jen Feb 11 02:31:06 rick-home: oh yeah? I did not know that Feb 11 02:32:43 Does palm approve apps in the evening or should I only pay attention to my status during normal business hours? Feb 11 02:32:59 scottb: Generally during the evening Feb 11 02:33:21 Oi! Feb 11 02:33:32 I'm going to be refreshing every 15 minutes for the rest of the night -_- Feb 11 02:33:59 how long has your app been "in review" ? Feb 11 02:34:08 Or, you could go to sleep and wake up with an approved app Feb 11 02:34:22 Monday Feb 11 02:34:36 2 days ago monday? Feb 11 02:34:41 Yeah :P Feb 11 02:34:56 I'm impatient, it's my first app Feb 11 02:35:04 1 month for my first app Feb 11 02:35:06 breathe Feb 11 02:35:11 me 2 Feb 11 02:35:34 If it's a month they've probably lost a dev Feb 11 02:35:47 2 days for my first one Feb 11 02:36:11 ymmv Feb 11 02:37:08 a week here Feb 11 02:37:17 scottb it has varied at times between 3 days and a month. From time to time they will push on a "category" of app, and the other apps will languish for a bit. Feb 11 02:37:33 and they make to claim that it's a fifo stack. Feb 11 02:37:39 =/ Feb 11 02:37:41 aamof, they freely admit it is NOT a fifo stack Feb 11 02:37:58 Well, that kinda sucks Feb 11 02:38:31 it's a right of passage. it's supposed to be painful.. Feb 11 02:39:05 scottb at least if they reject it they will send you and email that tells you in excruciating detail why. It's as transparent a process as they can make it. Feb 11 02:39:41 and if it gets approved, they never tell you anything. not even that it published. Feb 11 02:40:24 Bmyers: That's what has me refreshing non stop Feb 11 02:40:46 work on your next app. forget that one. it's done.. Feb 11 02:41:12 Already doing that Feb 11 02:41:57 Btw, for any one who is new to JS, typeof is not a function it's an operator Feb 11 02:42:08 1,571 apps in app catalog and web distro Feb 11 02:42:15 I keep seeing code with typeof(myVar) == something Feb 11 02:46:12 anyone used Mojo.View.converToNode()? Feb 11 02:49:01 Yes scottb but it's a very WEIRD operator Feb 11 02:49:18 weird? Feb 11 02:50:22 Anyone know the code to set the scene scroller to the bottom? something like this scroller = Mojo.Controller.SceneController.getSceneScroller(); scroller.revealBottom(); doesn't work Feb 11 02:50:35 well if (typeof myvar === 'undefined') isn't weird? It's an operator but it doesn't operate between two things, it operates against ONE thing, but unlike ++ or -- it requires a space. Feb 11 02:50:44 scottb: if (typeof(obj) === 'object') is perfectly valid Feb 11 02:50:53 Tibfib: working on the same thing Feb 11 02:51:07 sugardave: perfectly valid === perfectly faulty Feb 11 02:51:18 scottb: Shouldn't the code I posted work? Feb 11 02:51:19 scottb how so? Feb 11 02:51:47 Tibfib: Not sure, never used the scrollers Feb 11 02:51:50 Adding my own scroller to the scene isn't an option Feb 11 02:51:57 Tibfib: sceneController Feb 11 02:52:00 I need to set the screen scroller Feb 11 02:52:17 scroller = Mojo.Controller.SceneController.getSceneScroller(); Feb 11 02:52:17 scroller.revealBottom(); Feb 11 02:52:21 rick-home: i see you point Feb 11 02:52:24 _s_ Feb 11 02:52:31 sugardave: doesn't work... Feb 11 02:52:32 _s_ceneController Feb 11 02:52:58 Tibfib: are you trying to get scrolling horizontally? Feb 11 02:53:02 Nope Feb 11 02:53:08 just simple scrolling using the scene scroller Feb 11 02:53:09 Tibfib: you can try the long way: Mojo.Controller.appController.getActiveStageController().activeScene().getSceneScroller() Feb 11 02:53:52 Alright I'm testing that Feb 11 02:54:10 I'm assuming getSceneScroller is a valid method...never used it :D Feb 11 02:54:13 NICE Feb 11 02:54:14 it does Feb 11 02:54:21 Well done sugardave Feb 11 02:54:29 awesome Feb 11 02:54:59 Hmm, perhaps I'm trying to do something different, I have a scroller that I'm trying to get the scroll arrow indicators showing up on Feb 11 02:56:35 WAIt, just kidding Feb 11 02:56:36 it doesn't work Feb 11 02:56:37 hah Feb 11 02:56:38 scottb: for $1.99 I can tell you how to do it :D Feb 11 02:57:53 Tibfib: oh? lameness Feb 11 02:58:01 yeahh... :/ Feb 11 02:59:27 error isn't showing up in palm-log either **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Feb 11 02:59:57 2010