**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 06 02:59:57 2010 Mar 06 03:00:31 I think so, do you know of an example? Mar 06 03:04:11 e.g. this is for iPhone http://webapp-net.com/Demo/Index.html Mar 06 03:05:06 technically you should be able to make any app (cept for the PDK ones) run in the web browser, if you properly link your source files correctly Mar 06 03:06:52 technically most iPhone formatted sites work on the Pre Mar 06 03:07:24 Okay, thanks. Mar 06 03:07:45 if you want to take it a step further and develop an app that accesses a site via the Mojo framework Mar 06 03:07:50 back Mar 06 03:08:03 haeffb: did you take a look? Mar 06 03:08:15 that is also possible and some have done it Mar 06 03:08:31 yes. Mar 06 03:08:34 had some problems. Mar 06 03:08:41 do tell Mar 06 03:08:56 loaded gallery Mar 06 03:09:06 Ah, okay, cause I am developing a site around the Pre GUI, but at the same time want to enter the competition, but don't yet have a Pre, so I was wondeirng if it was possible to do that. Mar 06 03:09:09 it took a bit for the thumbnails to arrive. Mar 06 03:09:23 like how long? Mar 06 03:09:25 (note: I am on EVDO even thru wifi) Mar 06 03:09:57 just a sec, I'll count Mar 06 03:10:10 .... Mar 06 03:10:24 four sec. Although, I'm assuming they may now be cached. Mar 06 03:10:47 Now, I choose Pear Mar 06 03:11:03 eWizardII: it's possible if you can make the app much more functional than the mobile version of the site like what Engadget has done with their mobile app that basically accesses's the site's content in a more confortable form Mar 06 03:11:14 ............................ Mar 06 03:11:17 28 sec Mar 06 03:11:48 flick right & Apple Tree appears almost immediately Mar 06 03:12:01 Flick right & Mountain Lake appears almost immediately Mar 06 03:12:35 flick right & Doll appears. flick right again & nothing. flick left & mountain lake. flick left again & nothing. Mar 06 03:12:47 flick left again & Apple Tree Mar 06 03:13:12 flick, flick, flick.... stuff appears Mar 06 03:13:15 but laggy Mar 06 03:13:40 now I can't flick. Mar 06 03:13:43 eWizardII: if you don't have a Pre, you can try the SDK which emulates the Pre's system Mar 06 03:14:13 Kyusaku: Ah, okay thanks then, and yea I have seen the Engadget app. Mar 06 03:15:04 Kyusaku: Wait does the emulator also allow me to run the E app on it? Mar 06 03:15:21 E app? Mar 06 03:15:37 eWizardII: the emulator cannot access apps from the app Catalog. Mar 06 03:15:57 or, more correctly, the emulator doesn't have the app catalog Mar 06 03:15:58 Engadget app Mar 06 03:16:09 the SDK is more meant to be used to test your own app Mar 06 03:16:14 Oh okay. Mar 06 03:16:20 haeffb: got it. Mar 06 03:16:29 the files are only around 40kb Mar 06 03:16:49 I'm testing on device Mar 06 03:16:53 ya Mar 06 03:17:27 not sure what you can do about users flicking faster than you can DL. Mar 06 03:17:47 nothing really Mar 06 03:18:04 i wish image view had an option to show a loading animation Mar 06 03:18:40 could you display a scrim & spinner over your scene if they flick & image not there yet? Mar 06 03:19:11 or preload two images either direction? Mar 06 03:24:01 i'm technically loading the entire image in the list view Mar 06 03:24:09 but webkit caching is broken in 1.4 Mar 06 03:24:20 hopefully when that's fix, the gallery runs much smoother Mar 06 03:24:35 cool Mar 06 03:38:57 Pardon me. Can someone suggest why an app that runs on the emulator locks up on my Pre and what I might do about that? I think it has to do with string garbage collection. The lockup occurs right after I build a big string to put a 20x20 map grid on screen. Mar 06 03:40:29 r u there? Mar 06 03:41:03 you are here Mar 06 03:41:12 :-) Mar 06 03:41:21 are u using loggin in your app? Mar 06 03:41:27 logging Mar 06 03:41:47 I suppose so. I'm using Chatzilla. Let me see what the settings are. Mar 06 03:42:04 nono, in your app. Mar 06 03:42:13 your webOS app Mar 06 03:42:48 Oh, yes, but I turned it off recently via json file when moving to the Pre for testing. Mar 06 03:43:17 ( framework_config.json file ) Mar 06 03:43:55 turn it back on & use that to see what's happening on the device Mar 06 03:44:19 but you have to change sysLogLevel on the device to see info's & warnings. Mar 06 03:45:59 I was using "logLevel": 99. Is there something else I should use to turn on that level of warnings? Mar 06 03:46:43 yes, by default, the device only shows error level, no matter what the app says Mar 06 03:47:56 so what other properties should I set in the framework_config.json file? Should I set "sysLogLevel":99 too? Mar 06 03:48:16 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1805&Itemid=63 Mar 06 03:50:27 palm-log --system-log-level info -d usb Mar 06 03:50:58 you'll probably want to set it back to "error" after you're done debugging the app, though. Mar 06 03:51:12 Hmmm. Thank you for this suggestion (as well as your patience). I'll try that out later tonight. I was just using novaterm to look at the /var/log/messages. Mar 06 03:51:14 I've been getting frequent "too many cards" errors Mar 06 03:51:22 Oh. Mar 06 03:51:31 after setting it to "info" Mar 06 03:51:51 by "frequent" I mean after a day or two of use. Mar 06 03:52:24 I switch my cards instead of stacking them using push for my app. Would that reduce the chance of getting "too many cards" errors? Mar 06 03:52:31 heh today i pretty much spent what my app earned last month, which is kinda sad but also fitting.. money comes in and then goes right back out Mar 06 03:52:59 or i could say last month bought me my macbook air (which i got for almost nothing) Mar 06 03:55:18 Thanks again haeffb. TTFN. Mar 06 04:03:54 i had an issue earlier today, altho i fixed it with a reboot i figured id mention it Mar 06 04:04:21 put my pre on the touch stone and it went into touchstone mode except the screen didnt go black or show the clock Mar 06 04:04:51 picked up it and it was still 'locked' but it was like the lock screen was overlayed on the normal 'desktop', the drag here to unlock wasnt visible but the drag coin was Mar 06 04:05:06 then a few hours later my screen had shifted by like 30px Mar 06 04:05:22 like the 'desktop' was partially slid Mar 06 04:54:38 test Mar 06 04:57:05 anyone here? Mar 06 05:01:15 grrr Mar 06 05:05:14 hi, anyone know of a way to open the youtube app the way the built in music app does? Mar 06 05:11:26 nope Mar 06 05:13:16 anyone know how to get the text inside a div?
this 1234
Mar 06 05:13:29 is the div id'ed? Mar 06 05:13:33 .innerHTML Mar 06 05:14:00 yes Mar 06 05:14:23 LoneStar99: document.getElementById("id").innerHtml(); Mar 06 05:14:30 or something like that Mar 06 05:14:45 * Templarian shudders innerHTML. Mar 06 05:15:08 Templarian: lol, what would you suggest? Mar 06 05:15:08 gkatsev: ok thanks, gonna try that Mar 06 05:15:48 find the div and do div.createTextNode("this 1234"); Mar 06 05:15:59 cheater Mar 06 05:16:01 It's dom treat it like it. Mar 06 05:16:23 no Mar 06 05:16:27 Templarian: i think you parsed the sentence incorrectly. Mar 06 05:16:44 oh get the text out. Mar 06 05:16:46 i think he wanted to get the text from the div, not to add the text to the div Mar 06 05:17:07 * halfhalo laughs at Templarian Mar 06 05:17:21 Templarian: learn grammar Mar 06 05:17:36 gkatsev: it's still not the right way to do it. Mar 06 05:17:47 YOUR not the right way to do it Mar 06 05:17:49 wait... Mar 06 05:17:55 yeah on Tap I need to get the text out of "tapped" div what is best way for that? Mar 06 05:18:18 oh that's easier. Mar 06 05:18:28 Just set an on tap event and get the target. Mar 06 05:18:37 An on tap event on everything. Mar 06 05:18:53 yeah, that is easier. no need to call the dom then as well. to get the element Mar 06 05:19:29 div.firstChild.nodeValue btw. Mar 06 05:20:04 bah humbug Mar 06 05:20:16 ha Mar 06 05:20:18 gkatsev: knowledge is power. hehe. Mar 06 05:21:14 LoneStar99: sadly I do not know prototype as I've been relying on my framework for everything so not sure how to get the target from the ontap event. Might be as simple as this.target or something. Mar 06 05:21:30 innerHtml is still one way of getting the insides of it. not necessarily the best way but it works Mar 06 05:21:37 target is the actual element that was pushed even though the event is on the parent. Mar 06 05:22:50 I have the following: http://pastebin.com/7v8n5VP6 Mar 06 05:23:36 ugh... new in JS Mar 06 05:24:08 LoneStar99: nah, you see the target is the actual element that was clicked. So you only have to place the event on the parent. Mar 06 05:24:16 just put the regex string into match. no need to new the Regex. Mar 06 05:24:32 people should realize that js is a functional programming language Mar 06 05:24:43 Not that your script makes sense anyway. Mar 06 05:25:02 * halfhalo like pie more than regex Mar 06 05:25:13 gkatsev: is right about about that. :) Mar 06 05:25:36 * Templarian fun has validating gkatsev's statements. Mar 06 05:25:47 s/fun has/has fun/ Mar 06 05:26:32 lol Mar 06 05:27:13 Plus don't forget to give your variables a declaration. var if you did do it that way. Mar 06 05:27:52 your a variable Mar 06 05:28:14 halfhalo: my a variable? i have several of those floating around. which one do you need? Mar 06 05:28:56 shush you Mar 06 05:29:00 so "if (event.target.id.match([a-z][0-9])) {" ?? Mar 06 05:29:01 :D Mar 06 05:29:20 no regex is in /[a-z][0-9]/ Mar 06 05:29:50 * Templarian shakes head at gkatsev Mar 06 05:30:03 * halfhalo snaps Templarian's neck Mar 06 05:30:06 wait, what? Mar 06 05:30:24 Templarian: you can also put it in as a string. Mar 06 05:30:48 You souldn't though unless you declare it as an object. Mar 06 05:31:07 ok. yeah, i guess // is better Mar 06 05:31:26 * Templarian facepalms blind leading blind is always helpful. Mar 06 05:31:37 hey! Mar 06 05:32:30 Also I'm not that helpful on this I have no idea how mojo handles anything. Mar 06 05:35:38 ok, Templarian: you have your own framework? Mar 06 05:36:17 Yea but it's not done and it's not full compatible with the app catalog. Mar 06 05:36:22 I don't think. Mar 06 05:38:25 do you have any apps in the catalog running on your framework? Mar 06 05:38:39 he has a proof of concept in preware? Mar 06 05:38:42 The WoW Armory but it's in preware. Mar 06 05:39:04 Also 1.4 messed up my transition effect a little so it flickers. Mar 06 05:39:20 Templarian: precentral app gallery? w/e Mar 06 05:39:45 You said Preware same thing. Mar 06 05:39:56 did you take it out? or what? Mar 06 05:40:17 nah it's there I downloaded it earlier. Mar 06 05:40:34 ok Mar 06 05:41:11 Putting UK armory in right now since a guy donated 5 dollars to make it happen. Mar 06 05:41:36 I figure if i average that hour over the 2 hours of work it's like 2.50 which is decent pay for open source. Mar 06 05:42:37 lol Mar 06 05:42:57 yeah not bad Mar 06 05:43:50 Templarian: why not do it in an hour? then you get $5/hr Mar 06 05:44:24 That is true... never thought of it that way. Mar 06 05:46:32 lol Mar 06 05:49:30 lol Mar 06 05:53:40 is WoW Armory like WarCraft? Mar 06 05:54:10 Yea, I don't play the game. It just has a large audiance that gives constant feedback. Mar 06 05:54:43 Plus my frameworks really setup for dashboard applications with a very nice XML module which WoW stores all it's info in that can be searched. Mar 06 05:55:04 oh ok nice Mar 06 05:55:41 LoneStar99: http://pastie.org/856890 here is that index's scene file. Mar 06 05:57:04 wow looks very neat Mar 06 05:59:29 is your framework specifically for webos? Mar 06 06:00:51 Nah it's just a module I created when I got bored a month ago. Mar 06 06:01:00 Or 2 months ago now. Mar 06 06:02:32 It's actually fairly simple http://code.google.com/p/ddframework/source/browse/trunk/scripts/dd/dd.mojo.js Mar 06 06:07:26 looks good Mar 06 06:11:27 stupid question Mar 06 06:11:57 pushing a scene from inside a scene is as simple as going like this.controller.StageController.pushscene() right? Mar 06 06:14:13 yeah halfhalo Mar 06 06:14:28 hrm Mar 06 06:14:33 then why is this not working Mar 06 06:14:50 its saying controller is undefined Mar 06 06:15:42 you have the name of the scene in the parans right? Mar 06 06:16:21 this.controller.stageController.pushScene('first'); Mar 06 06:16:24 like that? Mar 06 06:16:26 yeah Mar 06 06:16:32 my exact code is: Mar 06 06:17:02 this.controller.stageController.pushScene("FriendsList",event.item.data); Mar 06 06:17:24 does it push if you remove the event.item.data? Mar 06 06:17:40 comes up with Uncaught TypeError: Cannot Read Property 'stagecontroller' of undefined Mar 06 06:18:16 and no Mar 06 06:18:16 pastebin? Mar 06 06:19:03 give me a sec Mar 06 06:19:05 maybe try Mar 06 06:19:15 Mojo.Controller.stageController.pushScene Mar 06 06:19:20 irc and eclipse are on two different computers Mar 06 06:19:44 nope Mar 06 06:20:31 hmmm...well pastebin if i can help i will Mar 06 06:22:00 http://pastebin.com/SwZSpTBU Mar 06 06:24:21 is FriendsList in your stageassistant? Mar 06 06:24:44 yeah Mar 06 06:25:26 what's in FriendsList? Mar 06 06:25:49 right now? Mar 06 06:25:54 yeah Mar 06 06:26:02 the default methods plus what I posted Mar 06 06:26:30 wait your trying to push itself? Mar 06 06:26:45 oh jesus christ Mar 06 06:26:52 smiles... Mar 06 06:27:21 wait Mar 06 06:27:23 still broken Mar 06 06:27:30 kk Mar 06 06:27:42 what's in the scene's js Mar 06 06:27:59 the scene I'm trying to push? Mar 06 06:28:05 yeah Mar 06 06:28:53 just one ajax.request that pulls in an xml doc Mar 06 06:29:25 I KNOW its going to be something stupid Mar 06 06:29:40 smiles..yeah that's usually how mine goes too Mar 06 06:31:04 hmm...sorry idk Mar 06 06:31:23 HOWDY jENp Mar 06 06:31:33 hey LoneStar99 how are you? Mar 06 06:32:03 good here tackling fixes for an update Mar 06 06:32:21 how did it effect your app? Mar 06 06:34:05 finally got a real fix working today, but had submitted an update yestersay, with a defective fix.... so will have to wait till yesterdays 1.0.1 is made live so I can submit todays 1.02 fix Mar 06 06:34:43 oh that sucks Mar 06 06:34:45 AHAHAHAHAHAHA Mar 06 06:34:48 figured it out Mar 06 06:34:53 it was the bind Mar 06 06:34:55 what was it halfhalo Mar 06 06:35:45 when responding to the tap/click this is not set to the controller but to the element its tapped Mar 06 06:37:07 oh well could be worse... but did notice i had the wrong email address for app support. so got a 1 rating, cuss the lady though my app was a fraud Mar 06 06:37:27 oh no...which app Mar 06 06:38:56 oh well, my newest app the drawing one, which also has 1.4 bug fixed today Mar 06 06:39:37 so poor little app has not had it a good welcoming to webos... Mar 06 06:40:48 ohhh Mar 06 06:41:43 it turns out going on my first family vaca in 15 years Mar 06 06:41:55 yeah? where to? Mar 06 06:42:42 both sisters, 10, 37, dad, and step-mom Mar 06 06:42:54 where are you going? Mar 06 06:42:57 H-Town Mar 06 06:43:20 houston? Mar 06 06:43:22 Houston - staying in some pimp hotel Mar 06 06:44:01 http://www.houstonian.com/ Mar 06 06:44:02 oh that's nice Mar 06 06:44:30 hey when you were here did you ever go to the grotto? Mar 06 06:44:44 perhaps there will be some ladies Mar 06 06:44:49 * lemketron wonders if the Houstonian is anything like the Bostonian Mar 06 06:44:50 it sounds familiar Mar 06 06:44:58 italian? Mar 06 06:44:58 club mudd? Mar 06 06:45:06 maybe not Mar 06 06:45:39 http://www.glenivy.com/index.php/resort/C13/ Mar 06 06:45:41 usually - would go downtown for baseball games and get shitty at bars Mar 06 06:45:50 lol Mar 06 06:46:39 w0w, first time i heard of Glen Ivy Mar 06 06:46:49 seriously? Mar 06 06:46:53 yeah Mar 06 06:46:56 OMG great great place Mar 06 06:47:02 way too much fun to be had Mar 06 06:47:52 was a south mission lad, usually hungout PB, MB etc... Mar 06 06:48:09 when you go this past weekend? Mar 06 06:48:49 ? Mar 06 06:49:08 Glen Ivy? Mar 06 06:49:14 yeah Mar 06 06:49:37 It looks awesome Mar 06 06:50:01 oh it is...there are so many pools you can usually find one to yourself... Mar 06 06:50:11 and the grotto is just too much fun Mar 06 06:50:30 but you have to wear clothes you're willing to get stanied... Mar 06 06:52:03 wow, very nice places - feel like an idiot lived out yonder for 7 or so years and had never heard of them... Mar 06 06:52:31 meh...we traveled in different circles Mar 06 06:54:11 perhaps the 3rd time will be a charm. trying to make it back to SD soon... Mar 06 06:54:21 yeah? Mar 06 06:54:38 have you found a job out here? Mar 06 06:54:59 neah, have not looked, will start at the end of march Mar 06 06:55:13 lol Mar 06 06:55:59 well actually had looked, but stopped early last month... webos apps, became a priority Mar 06 06:56:14 mm i can understand that Mar 06 06:56:25 what are you looking for? Mar 06 06:57:11 anything with web development Mar 06 06:57:28 what salary range? Mar 06 06:57:28 would love a decent paying part-timer Mar 06 06:58:14 $40K+ Mar 06 06:58:23 that's it? can you live on that? Mar 06 06:59:30 yeah, funny... but could even live a block away from the beach with that Mar 06 07:35:02 ya, i like Mar 06 07:35:07 heh, mt Mar 06 08:27:31 so like i said i can probably get you in the door..the rest is up to you. my last word of advice...dont' try to bullshit them. Mar 06 08:44:39 anyone still around? Mar 06 08:44:49 ya Mar 06 08:45:45 right on Mar 06 08:56:31 night Mar 06 08:59:48 laters Mar 06 09:04:25 so is webos supporting open-gl yet? Mar 06 09:15:28 purefusion: not quite sure... Mar 06 09:15:57 LoneStar99: hmmm, well I don't think EA would be getting on board if that weren't the case Mar 06 09:16:53 yeah true Mar 06 09:18:27 purefusion: http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1850&Itemid=20 Mar 06 09:18:50 ah, right on Mar 06 09:19:12 it is available but is currently closed to certain developers, Mar 06 09:20:10 email address is at the bottom of above link, if you want to be granted early access Mar 06 09:25:01 technically WebOS has had OpenGL ES support since 1.3.5 Mar 06 09:33:15 Kyusaku: can it be accessed without the PDK? Mar 06 09:33:49 as in via HTML/CSS/JS? no Mar 06 09:35:00 how or why would you make OpenGL calls for HTML/CSS? Mar 06 09:35:05 you know any css? Mar 06 09:35:24 some Mar 06 09:39:43 used to have a css book but lost it Mar 06 13:09:06 heya Mar 06 13:10:10 hi Mar 06 13:22:28 good morning swiss & meta Mar 06 13:22:34 morning haeffb Mar 06 13:22:39 lots of snow here Mar 06 13:22:55 our snow is finally melting away Mar 06 13:23:02 6 inches in just 4 hours Mar 06 13:23:12 sweet Mar 06 13:26:20 snow... Mar 06 13:26:23 hey, can one of you guys try dl'ing Myles beta from preware? Mar 06 13:26:36 yesterday it was snowing, but today it#s just cold... Mar 06 13:26:45 yes Mar 06 13:26:46 let me try .. Mar 06 13:27:27 something seems wrong with precentrals feed... Mar 06 13:28:29 10 seconds where the time one fct has to return, right? Mar 06 13:28:36 yes Mar 06 13:28:42 ok, thx Mar 06 13:29:03 hmmm...that time it worked. Mar 06 13:29:05 i'm getting an error Mar 06 13:29:15 guess it's OK after all Mar 06 13:29:25 error 22 Mar 06 13:29:29 what version does it show? Mar 06 13:29:42 0.3.2 from today Mar 06 13:30:05 huh. Mar 06 13:30:23 weird. Mar 06 13:30:56 update feeds help? Mar 06 13:31:06 let me try Mar 06 13:35:50 bad address "ipk.preware.org" Mar 06 13:37:18 ipk.preware.org is down for maintance Mar 06 13:37:21 IIRC Mar 06 13:37:30 oh Mar 06 13:37:33 where did you see that? Mar 06 13:37:39 he wrote something on twitter Mar 06 13:37:52 don#t know, maybe it was for today Mar 06 13:38:58 rwhitby disagrees :) Mar 06 13:39:59 MetaView: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ Mar 06 13:40:56 I haven't tried it yet Mar 06 13:42:27 says it's down for everyone Mar 06 13:42:37 it's not just me! Mar 06 13:43:00 um, ipk.preware.org *would* be down for everyone, cause ipk*g*.preware.org is the real site Mar 06 13:43:24 It's just you. http://ipkg.preware.org is up. Mar 06 13:43:46 dns problems for me .. rebooting my pre Mar 06 13:43:56 a ha! Mar 06 13:44:09 so, what's up with the errors downloading Myles? Mar 06 13:44:34 i'll try again after rebooting Mar 06 13:44:48 metaview: can you test the german version of moo? Mar 06 13:44:58 it was giving me trouble all day yesterday and then again this morning. Mar 06 13:45:09 haeffb: I haven't seen you state what the error is yet ... Mar 06 13:45:23 swisstomcat says "error 22" Mar 06 13:45:45 swisstomcat has broken DNS. next. Mar 06 13:45:58 metaview: http://www.inorbit.ch/upload/com.inorbit.moo_1.0.4_all.ipk Mar 06 13:46:12 i'll hold my case until after the reboot Mar 06 13:47:12 working here now. Mar 06 13:49:07 no more errors here .. i rest my case, rwhitby :) Mar 06 13:49:54 * rwhitby continues rewriting ipkgservice in C Mar 06 13:50:18 oh, by all means, feel free to go back to doing whatever you were doing... Mar 06 13:51:08 ...creating great things for the webOS community. Mar 06 13:51:47 I think I've worked out how to make Preware palm-install'able Mar 06 13:51:58 (as a single package) Mar 06 13:52:04 cool Mar 06 13:52:54 Seems that 1.4 has support for pmPreRemove.script and pmPostInstall.script files ... Mar 06 13:53:21 and /var/palm/event.d and /var/palm/system-services Mar 06 13:53:47 (which says to me that Flash in the app catalog is going to be a service of some sort) Mar 06 13:54:25 there's a flash developer event just before GDC, i assume they'll show the flash beta there Mar 06 14:45:37 C version of ipkgservice can now update and load feeds :-) Mar 06 14:45:49 thumbs up Mar 06 14:45:52 woohoo! Mar 06 14:46:58 I'm going to look at using ApplicationInstallerUtility instead of ipkg, and using pmPreRemove.script and pmPostInstall.script instead of prerm and postinst. That should allow advanced homebrew packages to be removed safely with orange+tap Mar 06 14:47:49 (and installed with palm-install) Mar 06 14:54:19 I am looking for betatesters for a webos-game living in the us. You need a Pre, some time to go outside, fast mobile internet and must be able to install an ipk. Query me your e-mail adress for more information. Mar 06 14:55:56 no one in europe needed? Mar 06 14:56:29 swisstomcat: didn't you know, Palm devices don't exist outside the US ... ;-) Mar 06 14:56:34 mmh, another one in europe would be nice, too. if you are interested Mar 06 14:56:51 (ribbing on Palm, not you sebastianha) Mar 06 14:57:05 rwhitby: oh, thanks Mar 06 14:57:08 hehe Mar 06 14:57:24 irc needs some kind of history Mar 06 14:57:50 there is Mar 06 14:58:08 yes but no which is pushed to me when i join Mar 06 14:58:08 archives of every converstation Mar 06 14:58:12 sebastianha: like http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos/ ? Mar 06 14:58:17 like jabber muc Mar 06 14:58:31 sebastianha: oh, use a program like bip for that Mar 06 15:02:55 rwhitby: bip? Mar 06 15:04:21 sebastianha: http://bip.t1r.net/ <- that's what I use Mar 06 15:05:59 rwhitby: ah, ok, danke Mar 06 15:08:08 hi Mar 06 15:08:24 rwhitby: gna, wrong language: thanks :) Mar 06 15:08:36 hi benluo Mar 06 15:09:01 i want to use sqlite db to store chars Mar 06 15:09:29 but i found if i use 1.4 emulator, it seems to work. but for 1.3.5, it does not work Mar 06 15:09:38 do you know why? Mar 06 15:11:05 Anyone around? Mar 06 15:11:11 me Mar 06 15:11:29 know anything about the FilterField widget? Mar 06 15:11:40 oh, and good morning :) Mar 06 15:13:32 sorry. never use it Mar 06 15:14:35 I want to wait for the user to finish typing before applying the filter, but the only related widget attribute is a "delay" that will wait a certain number of milliseconds before firing the event. Mar 06 15:14:56 That's not really optimal for me as some entries may be short and some may be long Mar 06 15:15:04 oh well Mar 06 15:16:12 benluo: sqlite works here on 1.3.5 and 1.4 .. what's the problem? Mar 06 15:20:03 i use persistence.js ORM http://github.com/zefhemel/persistencejs/blob/master/README.md Mar 06 15:20:21 it make db operation easy Mar 06 15:20:54 hi there Mar 06 15:20:57 i think webOS should use it or something like this as a standard tool Mar 06 15:21:19 I've a doubt... is there any way to use maps in your own applications? Mar 06 15:21:19 in 1.4, it can create and insert data Mar 06 15:21:46 but in 1.3.5, it can not create db and neither insert data Mar 06 15:22:00 maps? Mar 06 15:22:07 yep Mar 06 15:22:18 I will try to make myself clear... Mar 06 15:22:53 I would like to do an application that displays available bikes into a map Mar 06 15:22:55 hey Mar 06 15:23:10 maruku: not in dublin, ireland i hope Mar 06 15:23:14 it's in possible in Shanghai, China Mar 06 15:23:18 too many Mar 06 15:23:18 :P Mar 06 15:23:34 Barcelona ;) Mar 06 15:23:44 there's a bikefinder app for dublin Mar 06 15:24:01 we have a service called Bicing here in Barcelona Mar 06 15:24:15 google maps should work, OSM maps too Mar 06 15:24:22 and I'd like to try to do an app with this porpouse :) Mar 06 15:24:23 maruku .. I'm using embedded google maps with the google maps api. That would probably work for what you are trying to do Mar 06 15:24:28 i'd ask metaview (author of maptool) Mar 06 15:24:40 or yahoo-maps Mar 06 15:24:42 cool Mar 06 15:24:47 google maps would be cool Mar 06 15:24:55 even yahoo maps ;) Mar 06 15:25:15 so I'm going to see how to get it into the road Mar 06 15:25:21 thanks a lot folks! Mar 06 15:25:31 There's a great article here with sample code to show how to get the google maps api working in a fairly efficient manner Mar 06 15:25:32 http://bchilds.com/blog/2009/10/06/dynamically-loading-google-maps-on-the-palm-pre Mar 06 15:25:47 thx Monroe Mar 06 15:26:06 no problem Mar 06 15:27:12 the trick is that the google maps api is fairly big, so if a user isn't on wifi, it could take some time to download the js libraries needed. The trick to keep your app efficient is to only load the api when the map is needed, and only load it once per "run" of the app... Mar 06 15:27:38 the link above provides a method to do that Mar 06 15:28:09 I wasnt sure if I could use gmaps but I was sure that it wont be easy for that reason.. Mar 06 15:28:21 that link is what I was looking for Mar 06 15:28:46 thx!!! Mar 06 15:29:04 np :) Mar 06 15:31:31 the people who review apps must have been dropped as children Mar 06 15:32:07 "There are better apps for free" when there aren't any for free. *facepalm* Mar 06 15:32:39 there are lots of apps for free. Just not ones that do what yours does. Mar 06 15:33:25 I would think that would sort of influence the sentence there Mar 06 15:33:57 it's irrelevant anyway. I've given up making the reviewers happy. they still insist my app doesn't have features that it has had from day one, lol Mar 06 15:40:05 yeah, some of the reviews are crap Mar 06 15:40:13 best to ignore them Mar 06 15:41:03 com.palm.webos.jpkg.PackageBuilderException: Unable to overwrite existing package destination. path=[C:\Users\BRIANH~1\AppData\Local\Temp\com.tigers.beta.myles_0.3.3_all.ipk]. Mar 06 15:41:03 com.palm.webos.jpkg.PackageBuilderException: Unable to overwrite existing package destination. path=[C:\Users\BRIANH~1\AppData\Local\Temp\com.tigers.beta.myles_0.3.3_all.ipk]. Mar 06 15:41:25 seriously tired of that eclipse error. Mar 06 15:48:41 hi haeffb_pre: Mar 06 15:48:53 hi bmy Mar 06 15:48:56 or haeffb: Mar 06 15:48:57 tab Mar 06 15:49:09 pepsi? Mar 06 15:49:18 bmy tab Mar 06 15:49:22 Bmyers Mar 06 15:49:56 hows it going Mar 06 15:50:05 * haeffb getting ready to go watch the forces of good defeat rick's forces of evil Mar 06 15:50:30 Mizzou vs Kansas on CBS at 1pm Mar 06 15:50:43 ah.. Mar 06 15:50:49 it is march isnt it Mar 06 15:50:52 I think I'm close to an app catalog release candidate for Myles Mar 06 15:51:02 final regular season game today Mar 06 15:51:31 to update myles in the app cat u mean? Mar 06 15:52:09 UK ... Go Cats! Mar 06 15:52:22 yes Mar 06 15:52:53 Kansas better watch out! :) Mar 06 15:53:13 is that the one u sent me? Mar 06 15:53:32 will be shortly. Mar 06 15:53:41 or not. my firefox is broken at the moment Mar 06 15:53:51 trying to get 1.4 working Mar 06 15:54:36 it seems to have totally killed komoedit on my ubuntu machine Mar 06 15:55:25 off to the golf course ... later all Mar 06 15:55:31 IE works. new version sent. Mar 06 15:55:41 * haeffb going mobile! Mar 06 15:55:58 * haeffb_pre has gone mobile Mar 06 15:56:08 ok.enjoy the game Mar 06 17:11:27 I hate synergy... It's always adding accounts accross apps when I don't want it to and it never does it when I want it to Mar 06 17:12:11 corrollary ... anyone know how to fool the picture app into accepting your facebook login? people on various forums suggest adding the account ot contacts will also add it ot the photo app, but I've had no success Mar 06 17:14:15 jettero: that worked for me. Mar 06 17:15:14 yeah... I think it's cuz I already had that account previously that it's not just adding it to every other app or something Mar 06 17:15:20 irritating Mar 06 17:36:58 mr0ning Mar 06 17:43:02 morning people Mar 06 17:43:25 I still have to have someone look at my stupid list thing and tell me whats wrong Mar 06 17:43:34 since I just don't know Mar 06 17:44:35 morning Mar 06 17:44:44 can you post your code? Mar 06 17:44:50 yeah Mar 06 17:44:53 I will in a few Mar 06 17:44:58 I literally just woke up Mar 06 17:45:06 and my desktop is off Mar 06 17:45:31 uggg Mar 06 17:45:46 which is going to yell at me for not shutting it down properly Mar 06 17:46:18 because when it wakes up at 3am my first thought is not to safely shut it down Mar 06 17:46:25 but to make the bright monitors go away Mar 06 17:46:40 I'm finally found a way around my canvas stacking problem Mar 06 17:49:31 my T400 screen doesn't work Mar 06 17:49:37 orly? Mar 06 17:49:38 why Mar 06 17:49:50 Mine is brand new Mar 06 17:50:00 got it replaced wed Mar 06 17:50:22 1440x900 LED backlit LG screen as well, not the crappy samsung Mar 06 17:52:52 hmmmm Mar 06 17:52:53 brb Mar 06 17:55:04 hmm Mar 06 17:55:17 ? Mar 06 17:56:40 ok, why is it doing that Mar 06 17:56:48 what? Mar 06 17:57:25 I'm trying to set my nick to halfhalo-T400 to differentiate between my laptop and desktop Mar 06 17:57:32 but its just changing it back Mar 06 17:57:40 nick registration? Mar 06 17:58:45 It should be.... Mar 06 17:58:56 test Mar 06 18:00:32 hmmm Mar 06 18:01:25 test Mar 06 18:01:28 hehehehe! Mar 06 18:02:19 ok, onto pastebin Mar 06 18:04:29 morning all! Mar 06 18:05:10 http://pastebin.com/sSr5PzLv Mar 06 18:05:42 I cannot push a scene from inside of a function thats bound to the list Mar 06 18:06:38 anyone proficient with CSS? Mar 06 18:08:00 depends Mar 06 18:08:10 on what you need Mar 06 18:08:44 need to write "on hover " or what not inline css Mar 06 18:09:01 element:hover Mar 06 18:09:05 a:hover Mar 06 18:11:12 need the div to change color on mouse over
Mar 06 18:12:39 LoneStar99: why not just put it in css... div:hover Mar 06 18:12:51 give it a class name: .class:hover Mar 06 18:12:58 or an id: #id.hover Mar 06 18:13:04 er #id:hover Mar 06 18:13:25 i have .suggest_link { background-color: #FFF;} .suggest_link_over {background-color: #999;} in an external css but need it to work defined in the div... Mar 06 18:13:48 first of all, can we "hover" in webOS? Mar 06 18:13:55 is that even possible? Mar 06 18:13:59 I have no idea Mar 06 18:14:03 reason the color is dynamic from javacript Mar 06 18:14:09 yeah it works Mar 06 18:14:10 you cant hover in webos Mar 06 18:14:34 wait, if the color is dynamic in javascript why not just add the on:hover style using js Mar 06 18:15:01 it's not a style, it's a pseudo-class, yeah? Mar 06 18:15:14 * sugardave doesn't really know CSS, just some terms. Mar 06 18:15:17 yeah class Mar 06 18:15:29 I mean :hover Mar 06 18:15:36 i had a css book, but stayed in the west coast Mar 06 18:15:36 I don't think you can setStyle on that Mar 06 18:16:05 I have many css books Mar 06 18:16:11 even though I have it Mar 06 18:16:28 the above ".suggest_link" ".suggest_link_over" work from an external css file... Mar 06 18:17:00 not trying to find a fix for inline css definition Mar 06 18:17:08 LoneStar99: how are you hovering on the device? Mar 06 18:18:54 sugardave: when finger is dragged over X div it changes color Mar 06 18:19:33 so, it's when dragging, keep holding down, stop, keep holding down...that's a hover? Mar 06 18:20:57 brb let me test on device so i know exactly what it does Mar 06 18:21:24 http://pastebin.com/sSr5PzLv -anyone know why It is giving me those errors? Mar 06 18:24:33 sugardave: when going over the list, the div where the finger is on changes color Mar 06 18:25:50 ok brb in 1 hour need to run errands Mar 06 18:26:11 LoneStar99: but that's a tap or hold, isn't it? Mar 06 18:27:28 * Templarian thinks he is going to confuse any developer that has the WoW armory installed. People just can't figure out why it launches so fast especially with just adding europe support last night. Mar 06 18:29:44 sugardave: a simple sliding over Mar 06 18:29:51 halfhalo: bind the handler before listen Mar 06 18:29:52 works Mar 06 18:30:09 no tap or hold Mar 06 18:30:17 omgomgomgomgomgomg thank you Mar 06 18:30:55 LoneStar99: yeah, but you had to tap to start sliding....what actual events are occuring when you do the slide thing? Mar 06 18:32:36 IPK here http://admin.work.lonestarbeer.operaunite.com/file_sharing/content/ Mar 06 18:32:49 pw: IRqe Mar 06 18:33:16 it is a suggestive search, and works, just need to fix a few things Mar 06 18:34:23 Templarian: why does it load so fast? Mar 06 18:43:37 sugardave: did u check it out? Mar 06 18:45:02 Templarian: your secret is the aged cheese! Mar 06 18:46:17 Magic. Mar 06 18:46:40 http://forums.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/216809-wow-armory-3.html#post2287990 I answered it in this thread. Mar 06 18:49:35 gots to go for now Mar 06 19:00:08 morning jen Mar 06 19:10:07 Templarian: no updates to the komodo plug yet right? Mar 06 19:10:16 i was checking your blog Mar 06 19:16:14 Bmyers: Just wrote the europe update. I'm working on the addon right now. Mar 06 19:16:28 (post that is for WoW armory hehe) Mar 06 19:16:31 LoneStar99: no, I didn't...was just asking you about what actual events you see when doing those actions Mar 06 19:19:42 Templarian: thats good news. i saw your WOW post. congrats on one down.. Mar 06 19:23:46 Templarian: heh, for a second i read that "let me know if there are any other religions that need to be added" Mar 06 19:25:40 palm needs a leader board for downloads so we can see who the top 20 are in each category (paid/not paid) Mar 06 19:26:05 digitalpowers: myappbox.com has one, not official tho Mar 06 19:26:39 gkatsev: hehe... Mar 06 19:26:40 it is a start Mar 06 19:27:09 http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=does+he+look+like+a+bitch%3F < random lol Mar 06 19:28:33 ok, another retarted quesiton. how can I make my program wait for a functiont o finish before moving on Mar 06 19:28:57 IE I have a function that is populating a list, but its making the list model before the function is finished Mar 06 19:29:51 halfhalo_desk: that is called a callback. Mar 06 19:29:57 show the empty list and change the list's model when the data is ready Mar 06 19:30:43 usually you do something like foo("something", function(){alert("it's done");}); in foo take the second argument callback.call(this, "parameters"); Mar 06 19:30:52 or that. Mar 06 19:30:55 wait, thats not the issue Mar 06 19:30:57 god dammit Mar 06 19:31:05 local vs global array Mar 06 19:32:19 i just tried to install something on my ubuntu box with palm-install ... forgot about apt-get :) Mar 06 19:34:38 I'm having trouble getting the Facebook app to ever log in. x.facebook.com works, but when I try to Sign In with the app, after I push the button it says "Signing in" for a second and then goes back to "Sign in" without anything happening. Some people on the forums had this problem too. It started with earlier versions of the app, and the new one doesn't work either. Deleting and reinstalling the app doesn't work.. Mar 06 19:36:10 nor does restarting the Pre.. no one seems to know how to fix this :/ Anyone else seen this issue? Mar 06 19:38:28 oh finally found something on Palm forums Mar 06 19:38:53 no fix though Mar 06 19:48:56 Nother stupid question! How the hell do I use the lists methods. I tried this.controller.get('list').getLength() and it no worked Mar 06 19:49:40 which lists method? Mar 06 19:49:48 any Mar 06 19:50:01 example? Mar 06 19:50:13 Mojo.log(this.controller.get('friendsList').getLength()) Mar 06 19:50:50 a list .. you mean a list widget? Mar 06 19:50:56 yeah Mar 06 19:51:13 i'd try the length on the model that feeds the list Mar 06 19:51:33 where does the data come from? it's probably in an array? Mar 06 19:51:42 well, I'm trying to get this to work also: Mar 06 19:51:42 this.controller.get('friendsList').noticeAddedItems(0,this.listmodel2) Mar 06 19:52:10 this.listmodel2 is your model with the data in it Mar 06 19:52:12 I was just doing getLength because it was an easy test Mar 06 19:52:29 its a model with data that I want to add to my list Mar 06 19:52:55 you could count the length of that Mar 06 19:53:05 what's the ultimate goal? Mar 06 19:53:29 repopulate my list with the this.listmodel2 model Mar 06 19:54:00 is the list empty before your repopulate it? Mar 06 19:54:32 no, it has one placeholder item Mar 06 19:55:32 hey what's the link to register a nick for irc? Mar 06 19:55:42 i'd use this.controller.modelChanged Mar 06 19:56:34 jen: /msg nickserv REGISTER Mar 06 19:56:39 see, I didn't see that on the palm api site Mar 06 19:56:49 it should be there Mar 06 19:56:56 thanks swisstomcat Mar 06 19:58:06 i'd look for tutorials on lists, halfhalo Mar 06 19:58:14 e.g http://answers.oreilly.com/topic/724-introduction-to-mojo-widgets-in-palm-webos/ Mar 06 19:58:27 THERE WE GO Mar 06 19:58:53 or Mar 06 19:58:53 http://webos101.com/List Mar 06 19:59:10 all found through google Mar 06 19:59:48 ah Mar 06 19:59:55 see, my FF is set up for bing Mar 06 20:00:06 and its way to much effort to change it Mar 06 20:00:28 really? Mar 06 20:00:33 bing didn't find anything? Mar 06 20:00:40 not really Mar 06 20:01:05 the one it did find didn't load Mar 06 20:01:14 it's not that hard to change the search engine in FF Mar 06 20:01:20 yeah Mar 06 20:01:22 two clicks Mar 06 20:01:24 but I'm lazy Mar 06 20:01:42 and I don't have the search bar Mar 06 20:01:48 im talking about the super bar Mar 06 20:01:50 at least you'd find good examples afterwards Mar 06 20:12:50 /msg nickserv REGISTER hello jenp@gmail.com Mar 06 20:13:51 oops Mar 06 20:14:46 huh having trouble helping someone register Mar 06 20:15:44 which irc client are you using? Mar 06 20:15:50 icechat Mar 06 20:16:45 testing Mar 06 20:23:35 hi nerdgurl Mar 06 20:26:53 hi Mar 06 20:27:02 hi! Mar 06 20:32:47 just approved 'El Zapato' Mar 06 20:32:51 who was that? Mar 06 20:33:03 No idea Mar 06 20:33:08 prob haeff Mar 06 20:33:25 El Zapato? is that an app? Mar 06 20:49:52 painting someone submitted to my gallery Mar 06 20:49:57 JenP: Mar 06 20:50:12 hey codeslaw wat's up Mar 06 20:50:24 nothin Mar 06 20:50:41 thats what el zapato was Mar 06 20:50:46 oh ok Mar 06 21:30:27 If I update my contacts in Google, how do I sync those changes back to my Pre, or does it do it automatically? Mar 06 21:30:39 JenP: hey! how's the db stuff coming along? Mar 06 21:31:03 hi sugardave Mar 06 21:31:14 had to put it aside while i fix some 1.4 glitches Mar 06 21:31:37 ah, bug fixing fun time Mar 06 21:31:44 yeah.... Mar 06 21:31:51 hopefully will get it done soon Mar 06 21:32:49 BoomerET: Its done every 15 minutes Mar 06 21:33:19 BoomerET: I think you can also do it from the preferences/accounts menu Mar 06 21:33:45 Thanks, I think I'll try the built-in help first. I've found it to be pretty helpful. Mar 06 21:34:09 I also found a book that's really helping me out, Javascript, A beginners guide. Mar 06 21:36:26 Any hint besides this month when we'll have PDK access? After GDC? Mar 06 21:36:51 Anyone going to GDC that would like to get together for a brewski? Mar 06 21:41:15 well Mar 06 21:41:20 this is a conundrum Mar 06 21:41:28 and I know thats spelled wrong Mar 06 21:42:23 What? You have an extra full-access pass to GDC that you can give me? Mar 06 21:42:28 Awesome Mar 06 21:42:30 no Mar 06 21:42:37 trying to figure this out Mar 06 21:42:54 What? How we're going to get Regis to fit in the plastic pants? Mar 06 21:43:01 lol no Mar 06 21:43:08 Pinky, are you thinking what I'm thinking? Mar 06 21:44:28 I have a function that makes an ajax call and grabs the response, and that works fine. But I need to set a field in an array (this.friendslist), except this is not referring to the scene controller anymore so it fails Mar 06 21:46:18 Firebug any help? Mar 06 21:46:41 no, but I think I know what to do Mar 06 21:47:17 where is jaycanuck? Mar 06 21:50:48 oh Mar 06 21:50:50 well then Mar 06 21:51:25 halfhalo_desk: .bind(this) ? Mar 06 21:51:45 yeah Mar 06 21:52:05 except I need to pass another variable along with it Mar 06 21:52:50 function(x) {this.myfunction(a,b,c);}bind(this) Mar 06 21:53:55 if you need to add a variable and you dont get to define the function yourself then you can also .bind(this, myVar) then in the receiving function it will have (myVar, theOriginalVars) Mar 06 21:54:47 ah Mar 06 21:55:00 when I tried that earlier I got the variables flipped Mar 06 21:55:03 now it works! Mar 06 21:55:22 so if you are binding an event and you need aditional variables, you can do more than one as well, whatever you add to the list after this, goes at the front of the other variables in the order you use Mar 06 21:55:23 d Mar 06 21:55:34 halfhalo_desk: yay Mar 06 21:55:40 yeah Mar 06 21:55:47 It was an onSuccess for an ajax call Mar 06 21:55:56 and I had my variable and transport flopped Mar 06 21:56:01 yeah i have done something similar Mar 06 21:56:19 it seems counter intuitive to me, seems like the additional variables should be at the end Mar 06 21:56:39 yeah Mar 06 21:56:51 I use an annonymous fct most of the time Mar 06 21:57:11 works fine Mar 06 21:57:43 even if they are annonymous you may still want to pass along additional information that is not part of "this" Mar 06 21:57:58 correct, but you as access to all local vars Mar 06 21:58:29 means you can correct the this pointer and then call this.myFct( here goes your local vars); Mar 06 21:58:30 ohrly? i didnt think you did in annon functions, i thouhgt they still only had their scope, otherwise why .bind(this)? Mar 06 21:59:02 because this isn't your object instance anymore, it is bind to the result Mar 06 21:59:16 you call bind(this) to correct the this pointer Mar 06 21:59:52 right but if you already had access to local variables you wouldnt need to properly scope your "this" pointer Mar 06 22:01:54 sweet Mar 06 22:02:06 the basic functionality of my app is complete Mar 06 22:03:46 digitalpowers: eh? this is not a local var Mar 06 22:04:10 you could do var locthis = this, then you can acccess locthis in your annonymous function without bind(this) Mar 06 22:04:32 anyway, you could try it out. Mar 06 22:04:49 Now I just have to make this all prettylike Mar 06 22:04:50 i will take your word for it :) Mar 06 22:05:32 No way..... Mar 06 22:05:38 This is awesome Mar 06 22:10:58 now time to learn how to use Mojo.depot or whatever it is Mar 06 22:35:00 hi all] Mar 06 22:35:05 ola Mar 06 22:37:42 hey everyone, anyone know how to directly link to the app catalog's review page? Mar 06 22:40:04 also, btw if anyone is interested, 1.4 doesn't handle certain file encodings the same way 1.3 did Mar 06 22:40:06 apparently Mar 06 22:40:17 howso? Mar 06 22:40:40 my list item row templates had to be resaved in ASCII to start working again... have a bunch of bad reviews because my lists suddenly stopped working Mar 06 22:40:44 think I had them saved in UTF-8 Mar 06 22:40:46 or 16 Mar 06 22:41:30 took forever and .5 stars to figure that out Mar 06 22:41:33 so disappointing Mar 06 22:41:46 anyone know how to link directly to the catalog's review page? Mar 06 22:41:58 no idea Mar 06 22:42:29 goooood lord i hate css Mar 06 22:42:47 it's great if you sacrifice your life to it for a year Mar 06 22:43:04 hi JayCanuck Mar 06 22:43:14 yeah i dont mind css i suppose, what i hate is that it doesnt follow the rules Mar 06 22:43:27 it is always almost what it should be Mar 06 22:45:37 mikemcelligott: i dont even know how to view my reviews on the web Mar 06 22:48:40 so i am modeling my website somewhat after palm-dark since that is what my app uses and i cannot get the top left of a div to use my bloody img to round it all the other corners are fine, but the top left just hates me Mar 06 23:00:22 oi Mar 06 23:00:32 pie? Mar 06 23:00:46 pie are square Mar 06 23:00:53 mmmm, pie Mar 06 23:22:21 hello Mar 06 23:22:31 hello there Mar 06 23:22:43 i can not install pkg in emulator Mar 06 23:22:51 don't know why Mar 06 23:23:10 Have you tried quick install? or preware, or both? Mar 06 23:23:30 Have you installed Preware in your emu? Mar 06 23:23:59 Claude? Mar 06 23:24:02 Raines? Mar 06 23:24:32 palm-install org.benluo.shizi_0.0.1_all.ipk Mar 06 23:24:38 use console Mar 06 23:25:18 palm-install org.benluo.shizi_0.0.1_all.ipk Mar 06 23:25:18 connecting to device castle-linux (55AFCEFEBC0EDAB6B30FF897293EC5E5B1A51583:usb:3526) Mar 06 23:25:19 copying F:\\org.benluo.shizi_0.0.1_all.ipk to /media/internal/developer/org.benluo.shizi_0.0.1_all.ipk on device castle-linux (55AFCEFEBC0EDAB6B30FF897293EC5E5B1A51583:usb:3526) Mar 06 23:25:19 installing package /media/internal/developer/org.benluo.shizi_0.0.1_all.ipk on device castle-linux (55AFCEFEBC0EDAB6B30FF897293EC5E5B1A51583:usb:3526) Mar 06 23:25:27 sorry for flush Mar 06 23:25:29 :( Mar 06 23:25:38 it seems install Mar 06 23:25:58 but i can not find shizi in emulator Mar 06 23:26:15 i also putty in emulator Mar 06 23:26:27 cd /; du -a|grep shizi Mar 06 23:26:36 but can not find any file Mar 06 23:26:38 :( Mar 06 23:27:59 i use 1.3.5 Mar 06 23:28:48 No idea, don't know what shizi is. Mar 06 23:29:14 it's just my app Mar 06 23:29:22 shizi is a app name Mar 06 23:29:31 for learning chinese charactor Mar 06 23:29:35 your installing it to your pre Mar 06 23:29:49 NOT the emulator Mar 06 23:30:10 how can i install it in my emulator? Mar 06 23:30:23 easiest way? Mar 06 23:30:27 as menu mentioned, it should install app in emulator Mar 06 23:30:34 unplug your pre and run palm-install again Mar 06 23:30:36 console way Mar 06 23:30:47 got it Mar 06 23:31:28 you can also run palm-install -d tcp Mar 06 23:32:05 got it Mar 06 23:32:27 in the past, i run the command without palm plug in. that's reason. thanks Mar 06 23:32:28 :) Mar 06 23:34:44 whats good Mar 06 23:34:47 it's very interesting. i use persistence.js for ORM Mar 06 23:35:07 it works in my 1.4 emulator, but not work in 1.3.5 Mar 06 23:35:36 don't know if it's persistence.js bug or pre's bug Mar 06 23:35:38 :( Mar 06 23:55:22 if anyone is playing my beta territory i finally got a basic webpage up, it has a leaderboard which i know a lot of people wanted to see Mar 06 23:55:23 http://digitalpowers.com/ Mar 06 23:57:14 Typo: We have dded a Google Map... Mar 06 23:57:54 Is this a Risk type game? Mar 06 23:58:04 ok thanks Mar 06 23:58:19 it is a gps based game where you claim territories that are actual physical locations Mar 06 23:58:31 still in beta, needs a lot of work Mar 06 23:58:36 Sounds interesting. Mar 06 23:58:38 i already do that.. Mar 06 23:58:47 I was hoping WhereIgo would make it to the Pre. Mar 06 23:58:56 especial if I drink alot of beer Mar 06 23:59:31 Any word on Shazam coming to the Pre? Mar 06 23:59:32 I love beer. Mar 07 00:00:20 someone said beer! Mar 07 00:00:24 My app be working! Mar 07 00:00:24 did someone say "beer" ? Mar 07 00:00:25 still not aware of a mic api, need that for shazam Mar 07 00:01:04 i still just want freaking audible player to come to the pre Mar 07 00:01:14 haeffb: they came up with a game that is about marking territories Mar 07 00:01:37 I mark the territory that lies below my deck all summer long... Mar 07 00:01:44 lol Mar 07 00:01:53 i write my name in territories in the snow Mar 07 00:02:10 Snow? What's that? Mar 07 00:02:33 it's like heat but you have to shovel it Mar 07 00:02:49 and its cold instead.. Mar 07 00:02:49 Shovel? I thought that's what a Toro was for? Mar 07 00:03:07 yeah ha ha.. where r u? Mar 07 00:03:22 Northern Cali Mar 07 00:03:43 u dont get any snow? Mar 07 00:03:44 Anyone here going to GDC? Mar 07 00:04:07 anyone know of a good list of swear words? Mar 07 00:04:07 Maybe 1 day every 10 years. Mar 07 00:04:20 dp, ask George Carlin Mar 07 00:04:23 or offensive words Mar 07 00:04:28 lol Mar 07 00:04:43 You mean a censor list? Mar 07 00:04:50 as i was looking through my team names people have registered there are some fairly offensive ones, going to have to censor Mar 07 00:05:53 censor? This is America, dammit! Mar 07 00:05:57 lol Mar 07 00:06:28 there are some clever people out there though,i honistly expected a little less childishness form the beta feed so i hadnt worried about it Mar 07 00:06:35 http://www.phpbbhacks.com/download/8023 Mar 07 00:07:00 If you can utilize the SQL file maybe? Mar 07 00:08:17 yeah i will take a peakie Mar 07 00:08:24 thanks Mar 07 00:11:18 sweet that is definately a good starter list Mar 07 00:12:26 time to get my menu working Mar 07 00:22:01 I found a text file if you want. Mar 07 00:22:09 http://www.phorum.org/phorum5/file.php/download/63/2330/badwords.txt.zip Mar 07 00:22:21 But that doesn't have variations like the SQL does. Mar 07 00:22:26 ie, a$$ Mar 07 00:36:26 Anyone like me with nothing better to do on a Saturday night than sit around and write programs? Mar 07 00:37:01 <--- Loser Mar 07 00:40:23 Sat night? It's mid afternoon. Mar 07 00:49:35 hehe ... it's going on 8:00 here Mar 07 00:49:35 Monroe: Me, Me, Me! Mar 07 00:49:45 6:49 CST Mar 07 00:49:58 going to give it up and watch a movie with the wife in a bit, though. Mar 07 00:50:31 Anyone ever done much with GPS tracking? Mar 07 00:51:50 yeah ... I'm on the couch right now with wifey, working on the laptop Mar 07 00:53:27 I'm having a bit of trouble with gps tracking though. I rolled my own golf gps app, and used it for the first time today. It worked well, but there were a couple times when it just quit giving me tracking updates. It would come back after a minute or so. Mar 07 00:53:45 One time though, it crapped out bad. reloading my app didn't even work. I had to reboot Mar 07 00:55:09 anyone else had an issue like this? Mar 07 01:09:02 hi all Mar 07 01:09:08 hello Mar 07 01:09:54 hi halfhalo Mar 07 01:11:45 hmmmmm Mar 07 01:11:53 how am I going to fix my list Mar 07 01:12:10 good question Mar 07 01:12:19 beat it into submission? Mar 07 01:12:28 Possibly.... Mar 07 01:12:49 that's what I'm planning to do with the palm gps tracking service Mar 07 01:12:56 lol Mar 07 01:13:28 I mean, my list works, but there are some items that are invalid that shoud be removed Mar 07 01:14:20 hmm Mar 07 01:15:49 could you use onItemRendered to check each item and remove it if needed? Mar 07 01:16:12 no, because there is no way to tell if it is valid when the list is first populated Mar 07 01:16:30 errr Mar 07 01:17:06 Meh, I;m just going to write it into the method that updates what is displayed Mar 07 01:17:41 works for me :) Mar 07 01:39:23 grrrrrrrr Mar 07 01:39:43 I have to write out more functions instead of just assigning null Mar 07 01:39:50 bleh Mar 07 01:59:23 bleh I think I'm done ... Mar 07 01:59:38 gps tracking bug will have to wait till tomorrow Mar 07 02:00:00 lol Mar 07 02:00:18 Im working on a spinner Mar 07 02:05:59 debugging gps sucks ... I really need to be in the field. Plus in this case, it seemed to stop working after about an hour .. Mar 07 02:06:38 lol' Mar 07 02:17:05 hmm ... if you call swapScene() to change a scene, will the current scene's deactivate method be called? Mar 07 02:17:16 I don't know Mar 07 02:17:21 I would think so Mar 07 02:20:56 docs says: Pops the current scene and simultaneously pushes a new scene without activating & deactivating any underlying scenes. Note that this is an asynchronous operation. Mar 07 02:22:40 well then Mar 07 02:24:15 Does anyone know how to access data on the clipboard? Mar 07 02:24:39 CTRL+v Mar 07 02:24:41 ;) Mar 07 02:24:55 Monroe: ...I had that coming, didn't I -_- Mar 07 02:25:41 hehe Mar 07 02:26:34 seriously though, I have no idea Mar 07 02:28:10 well if you can set clipboard contents via JS, you should be able to retrieve it Mar 07 02:29:16 there's a method in stageController for setting clipboard contents, but not fetching it Mar 07 02:29:42 you can access it in a file in memory (http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Changing_Clipboard_Data_From_The_Shell) but i'm not sure how i'd do that with javascript Mar 07 02:29:45 i may just wait for the pdk Mar 07 02:30:07 PDK's probably not going to help you there Mar 07 02:30:54 (unless they're planning to expand the scope of it well beyond what the current libs on the device do) Mar 07 02:30:55 uhh Mar 07 02:31:05 did you try the javascript method? Mar 07 02:31:11 there might not be a webos specific method Mar 07 02:31:21 http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebdesign.ittoolbox.com%2Fdocuments%2Fhow-to-get-clipboard-content-through-javascript-12927&ei=9Q-TS8qYFqCoM6fVrMcN&usg=AFQjCNF3DBzAm267Bir9zi2sw15IqW8ljQ&sig2=FoXqLI40rrJaut0CrurECQ Mar 07 02:31:23 whoa Mar 07 02:31:30 http://webdesign.ittoolbox.com/documents/how-to-get-clipboard-content-through-javascript-12927 Mar 07 02:32:58 dawm: whoa, i'll have to try that Mar 07 02:33:14 rwhitby: i figured with c++ i could at least read in a file, though Mar 07 02:33:14 stuff doesnt have to be hard.. always try the easy stuff first Mar 07 02:34:19 dawm ... ever work with the gps service? Mar 07 02:34:29 no but im gonna have to soon Mar 07 02:35:28 it cant be that hard heh Mar 07 02:35:32 Nah Mar 07 02:35:37 it's really pretty easy Mar 07 02:35:58 My app uses the tracking method where it gives you continuous updates Mar 07 02:36:25 im also gonna have to dig into the running in the background state Mar 07 02:36:28 but in field testing today, it seemed to quit giving me udpates after about an hour Mar 07 02:36:40 my next app needs to run all the time in the background and access gps at set intervals Mar 07 02:36:56 all new stuff to learn Mar 07 02:37:43 I'm writing a new app that will have to do similar things Mar 07 02:37:57 Current app though is a golf gps Mar 07 02:38:31 Monroe: swapScene calls deactivate on the current scene Mar 07 02:38:43 background running and notificaitons will be new things to learn for me Mar 07 02:38:50 & activate on the new scene. Mar 07 02:39:08 i also have to figure out why swap&drop isnt registering bonus pieces properly, finally got around to adding them but its being difficult ;p Mar 07 02:39:22 but not on *underlying* scenes Mar 07 02:39:24 so much to do.. not enough time Mar 07 02:40:12 thanks haeffb ... docs metion that it's asynchronous ... does that mean that it's possible for activate on the new scene to be called before deactivate on the current scene? Mar 07 02:41:16 I wouldn't think so, but not sure Mar 07 02:41:17 if so, it's possible that could explain my gps hang issue Mar 07 02:45:55 hmm .. I should probably move the gps tracking handle out of my scene and into another object. Then the same handle can be used across calls to swapScene, and I don't have to worry about clearing and creating the tracking handle (which could be the root of my problem) Mar 07 02:48:20 bleh guess I better get to work **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 07 02:59:57 2010