**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 08 02:59:57 2010 Mar 08 03:01:11 how's everyone doing? Mar 08 03:02:29 Ok. Mar 08 03:02:35 decent Mar 08 03:02:41 with a side of monkey Mar 08 03:03:24 monkey, eh? Mar 08 03:03:28 yup Mar 08 03:03:35 betcha didn't see that one coming! Mar 08 03:04:17 I figured Ellephant, but close enough. Mar 08 03:05:25 oliphant Mar 08 03:05:34 highlighter? Mar 08 03:05:40 OMG Mar 08 03:05:52 got my reverse directory app semi working Mar 08 03:06:29 cool. I've been needing a reverse directory. Mar 08 03:07:03 Oh, hi Mark! Mar 08 03:07:11 I think when its released its going to have to cost something though Mar 08 03:07:18 due to the api I'm using Mar 08 03:07:20 darn. Mar 08 03:07:41 Most likely 99 cents though Mar 08 03:07:52 anyone know how i can remove a facebook account from my palm profile? Mar 08 03:08:06 cant find it anywhere else.. just there.. after a restore Mar 08 03:08:45 just go into contacts and remove it. Mar 08 03:09:01 its not there.. its only in my restoring palm profile part Mar 08 03:09:30 oh, well that means we need more monkeys. Mar 08 03:09:40 yup :\ Mar 08 03:09:41 heh Mar 08 03:09:49 Already on it Mar 08 03:10:05 dammit Mar 08 03:10:18 I keep hitting send to pre instead of emulator in eclipse Mar 08 03:10:20 I think auto-export is finished. Mar 08 03:10:29 but I hate having to wait a month to test. Mar 08 03:11:00 lol Mar 08 03:11:02 this is where time travel would come in handy Mar 08 03:11:13 I have until april 15 to work on my app Mar 08 03:11:22 since thats when I'm submitting it to the catalog Mar 08 03:11:40 you can't, I don't think Mar 08 03:12:12 waiitttt..... I get paid this month. Make that March 15 Mar 08 03:13:58 halfhalo_T400: go open source and pay nothing. Mar 08 03:14:14 bleh Mar 08 03:14:19 meh Mar 08 03:14:29 I will for my second app Mar 08 03:14:42 which will be the reverse directory Mar 08 03:15:07 hehehe Mar 08 03:15:14 My mojo.log output is funny Mar 08 03:16:07 I do open source under a different company name Mar 08 03:16:31 Onfailure: "SWEET JESUS THERE BEEN A JAM IN THE TUBES" Mar 08 03:17:36 I need to think of one for onSuccess Mar 08 03:17:39 hmmmm Mar 08 03:19:11 SWEET JESUS THE TUBES ARE UNJAMMED! Mar 08 03:19:22 Myles 0.3.4 uploaded to PreCentral Mar 08 03:19:23 I like it..... Mar 08 03:19:30 nice Mar 08 03:19:37 I'm nothing if not creative. Mar 08 03:20:57 Duly Noted Mar 08 03:21:45 kesne: how's that PreCentral app going? Mar 08 03:25:17 i've never heard of such a thing! Mar 08 03:26:01 ;) Mar 08 03:28:45 * haeffb hates websites that require a password greater than 6 chars but less than 10. Mar 08 03:28:49 idiots. Mar 08 03:29:04 lol Mar 08 03:31:59 I agree Mar 08 03:32:04 laters peeps. Mar 08 03:32:39 my password is usually 8 chars Mar 08 03:32:52 * kesne goes and changes his password now. Mar 08 03:33:08 mine is 13 Mar 08 03:34:55 mine is 42 Mar 08 03:35:09 not 42 chars, just 42 Mar 08 03:35:21 lol Mar 08 03:44:22 having a problem with the listenr for the following code http://pastebin.com/NH1L0mgi Mar 08 03:45:24 does not seem to update Mar 08 03:56:42 hi all Mar 08 03:57:25 howdy jenP Mar 08 03:57:45 hey LoneStar99 Mar 08 03:57:49 have you messed with the toggle button? Mar 08 03:59:56 yeah heaffb helped me with it Mar 08 04:00:27 can't figure out why value is not updated: http://pastebin.com/NH1L0mgi Mar 08 04:02:40 kk looking at it Mar 08 04:02:50 k thanls Mar 08 04:07:04 http://pastebin.com/sJ6jXe84 Mar 08 04:07:55 oh for toggleModel value Mar 08 04:08:04 make it value: true, Mar 08 04:09:41 thanks, let me take a look Mar 08 04:12:21 hey LoneStar99 here's how i'm using it Mar 08 04:12:23 http://pastebin.com/yudKDLJw Mar 08 04:13:03 ok Mar 08 04:13:55 thanak Mar 08 04:13:59 thanks Mar 08 04:38:22 ladeis Mar 08 04:40:39 pink elephant! Mar 08 04:56:52 JenP: I worked thanks! Mar 08 04:56:55 it Mar 08 04:57:25 oh that's great! Mar 08 04:58:01 * rwhitby has download status reporting working in next gen preware: Transferred: 105k / 457k
Time Left: 0:00:54
Transfer Speed: 25362 Mar 08 04:58:37 * halfhalo_T400 asks rwhitby if he wants a cookie Mar 08 05:01:55 double choc chip please Mar 08 05:02:17 * halfhalo_T400 ships off that cookie Mar 08 05:03:40 cookies yum! Mar 08 05:27:19 how can i check if div id="123" is present in a html page? Mar 08 05:27:39 would there be something in the div? Mar 08 05:27:47 nope Mar 08 05:28:16 try writing to innerHTML and see if that fails then Mar 08 05:28:17 just need to check if it is present, if not build it dynamically Mar 08 05:36:12 just .get() it and see if it exists? Mar 08 05:36:35 ok Mar 08 05:36:36 thanks Mar 08 05:52:28 is keydown supported? Mar 08 06:20:36 any way to programatically restart an app? Mar 08 06:21:55 what do you mean restart? Mar 08 06:22:05 why not just swap the first scene Mar 08 06:23:37 if a certain option is chosen, the app needs to be restarted to work correctly.. Mar 08 06:23:59 LoneStar99: huh? why? What possibly needs to be reloaded from the beginning? Mar 08 06:24:56 LoneStar99: if you *really* need to, create a multi-stage app where you explicitly create scenes. Then just destroy the main scene and create it again Mar 08 06:25:01 the thing I am removing a div "$('mutsu').remove();" and not sure how to bring it back, once removed Mar 08 06:25:41 easy....you have a container div and just do containerDiv.update( Mar 08 06:25:43 ) Mar 08 06:25:54 or containerDiv.innerHTML Mar 08 06:26:17 use Mojo.View.render to render content from a template and object Mar 08 06:27:33 halfhalo_T400: I have another rails question...do you know an *easy* way to handle multi-part form encoded data? Basically its image data that gets encoded and I need to decode it Mar 08 06:28:03 not off the top of my head, sorry Mar 08 06:28:12 google doesn't know either :( Mar 08 06:28:22 I think it has something to do with form helpers Mar 08 06:28:29 although im just guessing Mar 08 06:28:36 lots of stuff on the reverse Mar 08 06:28:46 heh Mar 08 06:28:52 All my rails books are at work to Mar 08 06:28:59 how POST form data....but not what to do on the other side of the ether Mar 08 06:29:18 try storing it in a sql db Mar 08 06:30:59 its broken up into segments.....boundary data boundary....simply converting to a string isn't sufficient Mar 08 06:31:43 I have no idea, sorry Mar 08 06:31:45 I'm not entirely sure what it looks like....its coming from the DownloadManger upload method and there is zero documentation there Mar 08 06:31:46 jfelectron: doing this, but need to figure out why it does not fully workvar disSugg = "

"; $('sgBox').insert(disSugg); Mar 08 06:31:57 halfhalo_T400: no worries :) Mar 08 06:32:02 workvar = work Mar 08 06:32:11 in other news, i just packaged a new version of my app that should help initial load times Mar 08 06:32:52 LoneStar99: what do you mean by 'not fully'? Mar 08 06:36:21 halfhalo_T400: what app is that? Mar 08 06:36:27 it works, but have a bug with some code Mar 08 06:36:32 Steam Friends Mar 08 06:36:46 Lets you view you Steam friends list on the pre Mar 08 06:49:09 did anyone ever figure out if you could view your apps reviews without having to use the app catelog? Mar 08 06:56:05 halfhalo_T400: Steam is the videogame distribution system eh? I'm a gamer....but don't really know steam...mostly a PC thing right? Mar 08 06:56:21 only a pc thing Mar 08 06:56:29 digitalpowers: so far... Mar 08 06:56:45 it works fairly well but even though i mostly pc game i rarely use steam Mar 08 06:57:12 so i take it that no one knows how to get at the reviews for an app via a web browser Mar 08 06:58:37 You want to get it programmatically or just view from a browser? Mar 08 06:58:44 just to view Mar 08 06:59:41 http://www.myappbox.com/ Mar 08 07:00:55 that will work they have a shortcut to app thing so i can book mark it and obsess over my reviews Mar 08 07:01:09 As long as it makes you happy! Mar 08 07:01:35 :) it mostly does, although the "0/5 - It wont install" frustrate me alot Mar 08 07:02:30 i have one review Mar 08 07:02:30 "0/5 ?" Mar 08 07:02:35 jfelectron: how about reseting the html page so the div is returned? Mar 08 07:02:36 what a useful review Mar 08 07:03:34 LoneStar99: resetting? Just re-render the contents of the relevant div through dynamic insertion Mar 08 07:05:24 hrm myappbox has me listed as having 2x as many downloads as developer.palm.com says Mar 08 07:14:31 good morning Mar 08 07:18:43 morning Mar 08 07:23:13 digitalpowers: There is also www.cyrket.com which has the application reviews as well Mar 08 07:25:22 the download count in the feeds provided by apple includes updates and reinstallations Mar 08 07:26:46 errr Mar 08 07:26:48 I mean palm Mar 08 07:29:32 oh, digitalpowers left anyway Mar 08 07:51:54 morning Mar 08 07:52:48 o/ Mar 08 08:11:56 hey swisstomcat.. long time ago.. Mar 08 08:12:07 hallo noaXess Mar 08 08:12:09 we should speak about openexpo.. and get a date in winti.. Mar 08 08:12:13 yes Mar 08 08:14:01 have not heard from palm yet .. need to bug adora Mar 08 08:29:33 * swisstomcat bugs adora Mar 08 08:33:42 oh well Mar 08 10:39:36 zzzZZZzzz Mar 08 12:57:15 what's up? Mar 08 12:58:22 When I submit a closed source app to the catalog I have to pay 50$. Do I have to pay this fee everytime I update the app or only the first time? Mar 08 13:01:37 " one-time US$50 fee per app applies (plus tax in countries where VAT applies). This fee also covers reviews of subsequent updates" .. from the palm developer website Mar 08 13:02:11 swisstomcat: thank you very much, did not find it Mar 08 13:02:43 i used google :) Mar 08 13:02:48 mmh Mar 08 13:03:13 bad when we have to use google to find information which should be easily accessable :) Mar 08 13:06:02 yeah Mar 08 13:06:12 i've never seen that page before Mar 08 13:06:41 hehe Mar 08 13:06:45 now try to find it in german Mar 08 13:06:54 go to the page and look at the left whats highlighted Mar 08 13:06:58 click on the link Mar 08 13:07:06 you will get a different page with similar information Mar 08 13:07:12 bus without this exact information Mar 08 13:07:26 thats an orphaned site - that explains it Mar 08 13:07:57 oh, ok you have to scroll down and go to page 2 Mar 08 13:07:59 there it is Mar 08 13:08:39 FAQ is only linked from the dev center Mar 08 13:58:59 What is the english word for the opposite of accuracy? is it deviation? (GPS related) Mar 08 13:59:28 deviation would be fine for GPS related "abweichung" i assume... Mar 08 13:59:37 ok Mar 08 14:07:35 Is a deviation "too high" or "too large"? Mar 08 14:08:38 too high I guess =) Mar 08 14:08:47 ok, thx Mar 08 14:09:00 though "deviation is too large" results more google results :P Mar 08 14:09:59 that does not always matter Mar 08 14:12:55 too large Mar 08 14:13:15 too high -> height Mar 08 14:13:23 or salary :) Mar 08 14:19:53 can someone here open up Pandora and tell me if it works for them, I have not been able to get Pandora or AccuRadio to work over the last few days and it sucks because I used it quite a bit Mar 08 14:24:45 bleh monday sucks Mar 08 14:28:38 pandora is playing on my pre Mar 08 15:03:06 any word on when european paid app catalog will be up and running? Mar 08 15:25:10 kmudrick: haven't heard anything Mar 08 15:25:27 but chuq should be back so we can bug him Mar 08 15:26:00 question: what's the best twitter client for webos? Mar 08 15:26:27 I use tweed free version .. but I don't use twitter a wole bunch Mar 08 15:26:29 using twee for now Mar 08 15:26:53 they're all best Mar 08 15:27:43 you mean they're all recommended Mar 08 15:27:56 twee seems pretty good so far Mar 08 15:31:37 I use tweed, just because that's the one I use. haven't tried any others. Mar 08 15:32:38 haeffb_pre: the _pre on your nick says that you're using wIRC on your pre? Mar 08 15:33:11 yes Mar 08 15:33:38 it's the nick I use when on the phone Mar 08 15:34:29 i'm using irssi as my primary chat client... i tried connecting to irssi-proxy using wirc, but no success :-( Mar 08 16:45:40 man this blows Mar 08 16:46:01 why would my pre just stop playing Pandora and AccuRadio? They both just spin as if they are buffering forever :( Mar 08 16:46:52 haeffb_pre, you don't find IRC on the pre to be cumbersome Mar 08 16:46:59 typing on that small keyboard lol Mar 08 16:48:04 less cumbersome than not having it. Mar 08 16:48:15 chuqui is back! Mar 08 16:48:21 yo. Mar 08 16:48:24 hi, all. Mar 08 16:48:34 oh chuqui we missed you Mar 08 16:49:28 anything happen while I was gone? Mar 08 16:49:50 the world shifted on it's axis Mar 08 16:49:54 nope, the world actually stood still Mar 08 16:50:07 well true haeffb_pre it didnt stand completely still Mar 08 16:50:09 I'd say I missed all of you, but I'd somewhat be lying. But I am glad to be back and ready to get going again, and I'm glad you're all here to hang out with again... Mar 08 16:50:57 I'm only about nine zillion emails behind... Mar 08 16:51:13 oh hey i did notice something while you were gone and maybe i am wrong but i dont think so, and i wasnt sure who to tell about it, so i figured i would wait until you got back :D Mar 08 16:51:35 the download manager, when it calls onSuccess, the file isnt actually quite ready to be used Mar 08 16:51:58 like if you download an image, and then in onSuccess you assign that image to an .src it will not show up Mar 08 16:52:41 chuqui: you know, the usual, zero star "can't install" reviews, still no european pay catalog.. :) Mar 08 16:52:58 but they fixed forum emails. progress. Mar 08 16:52:59 can we do anything about 0 star cant install reviews? Mar 08 16:53:30 digitalpowers: if you haven't reported that in the forums,, please do. I'll have a support engineer look at it. send me a URL when it's there. Mar 08 16:53:39 okies Mar 08 16:54:08 I'm going to do another round of cleanup in the review area now that I'm back. To be honest, the number of those reviews is down about 90% from 6 weeks ago. the problem seems to be mostly solved. Mar 08 16:54:15 jcrawford: your Pre didn't happen to stop playing pandora & accuradio after the 1.4 update did it? Mar 08 16:55:39 drnull: i have been able to play pandora just fine post 1.4 Mar 08 16:55:46 Anyone used the GPS tracking service for an extended period of time (like several hours) ? Mar 08 16:56:06 Monroe: i have, not that the battery normally lasts that long Mar 08 16:56:36 I actually didn't have battery issues at all .. After 4 hours of continuous tracking, I still had over 50% Mar 08 16:56:40 kmudrick: aye, as have most people. Just a very (un?)select few have had trouble. Mar 08 16:57:15 digitalpowers: Have you ever had issues where the tracking service just stopped responding and giving location updates? Mar 08 16:57:24 nope Mar 08 16:57:35 drnull: are you on wifi or no? i find that pandora sometimes spins when i have a really poor connection Mar 08 16:58:00 i have had occations where the phone got very hot and the battery drained very fast while using the gps, but i was also using the internet, not sure who the culprit is Mar 08 16:58:08 I had it happen twice. Once it came back again after a minute or so. The second time, it failed for good. closing and reopening my app had no effect. I had to reboot Mar 08 16:58:37 kmudrick: it's not related to that. It's related to an upgrade problem that very, very few people have had. http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre/233673-after-upgrade-no-audio-streaming-apps-work-3.html#post2283498 Mar 08 16:59:16 chuqui: i dont seem able to use the forum, i logged in but pressing the "New Topic" button does nothing, i will try again later to post Mar 08 16:59:16 kmudrick: I haven't personally experienced the problem, I've only been contacted by maybe 10 people who have had the problem. You can see it in the reviews for pandora few times though. Mar 08 16:59:45 digitalpowers what broswer? Mar 08 17:02:31 well then Mar 08 17:02:42 found abug while using my app Mar 08 17:03:07 stupid counters Mar 08 17:05:08 drnull, yes it did Mar 08 17:05:13 srsly palm Mar 08 17:05:23 get with the program Mar 08 17:05:35 let us send pics using aim Mar 08 17:06:40 chuqui: ie8 Mar 08 17:06:54 woawoawoa Mar 08 17:07:04 no need for that language here Mar 08 17:07:20 hahaha Mar 08 17:07:31 Netscape Mar 08 17:07:33 what? Mar 08 17:07:39 lol Mar 08 17:07:59 anyone want to betatest my new app? Mar 08 17:07:59 digitalpowers that's supposed to be fixed. guess not. as I dig out, I'll poke at it. chrome/firefox/safari work. ther's some weird javascript issue that is hitting ie Mar 08 17:08:21 your peoblem with ie is.... ie Mar 08 17:08:28 problem* Mar 08 17:08:28 :) Mar 08 17:08:48 lol, i used to use firefox but it suffers a lot from sucking Mar 08 17:08:49 There's this bug in IE where it causes it to suck Mar 08 17:09:14 ha Mar 08 17:09:19 oh hey Mar 08 17:09:34 I DO have my laptop! Mar 08 17:10:31 firefox used to be good before people started using it heavily and there for people started exploiting it and they had to make it secure like the other browsers which in turn makes it less responsive, more of a memory hog, and more sucky in general Mar 08 17:10:55 meh Mar 08 17:11:06 their all fast on a ssd Mar 08 17:11:42 i have ssd, and they all suck evenly, which is why i use ie, it is already installed Mar 08 17:11:51 lol Mar 08 17:12:05 I use chrome these days (on a mac) and am pretty happy. FWIW. Mar 08 17:12:06 Chrome, bitches. Mar 08 17:12:18 ya, i love Chrome on my mac, despite it being beta it's really pretty stable Mar 08 17:12:27 I tend to use both ... I primarily use firefox, but come across the occasional site that is "optimized" for IE, so I'll use IE for that Mar 08 17:12:48 wooooo Mar 08 17:12:51 sweeet Mar 08 17:12:54 that and i bet the firefox people like the java people, and i cant really abide that. i hate java more than i hate dolphin killing Mar 08 17:13:03 I made my ipk an exe for windows Mar 08 17:13:14 grtz Mar 08 17:13:57 bbl Mar 08 17:13:57 i made a bat script that makes an exe with both the ipk and another bat script that launches palm-install Mar 08 17:14:08 for those wondering where I was, you can see some of the photos I took here: http://chuqui.smugmug.com/photos/swfpopup.mg?AlbumID=11430329&AlbumKey=huoKj Mar 08 17:14:54 I download the html/css, read it over, and visualize what it would look like in a browser... Mar 08 17:15:02 chuqui, nice Mar 08 17:15:05 I went there last year Mar 08 17:15:33 yeah, it's an awesome place. Mar 08 17:15:35 no need for FF, IE, Chrome et al. Mar 08 17:15:55 heh Mar 08 17:16:12 say lynx say it Mar 08 17:16:19 when I went I drove up my family's XC90 Mar 08 17:16:22 with FWD Mar 08 17:16:29 THAT was interesting Mar 08 17:18:46 http://forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?p=2291821#post2291821 Mar 08 17:18:49 BAHAHAHAHA Mar 08 17:18:53 chuqui: awesome pics. now back to my cubicle. Mar 08 17:19:21 drnull and back to mine. and a week of unanswered emails. and a week of unread forums. and... Mar 08 17:19:45 chuqui: but... you have a Pre, you mean you didn't keep up on everything while you were gone? (good for you) Mar 08 17:21:05 drnull to be honest? "hell no, I didn't" Mar 08 17:29:52 testing Mar 08 17:29:54 sweet Mar 08 17:30:56 question how do i get some text on the left of a palm divider and some on the right of the divider Mar 08 17:31:02 in a list Mar 08 17:33:45 is it possible to setup the appmenu for the entire application, or do I need to set it up in each scene? Mar 08 17:37:34 i think you can do it in the stageassistant but im unsure Mar 08 17:40:03 hmmm....where would the handler code go? in the stageassistant as well? Mar 08 17:43:08 doesn't seem to work since the stageassistant doesn't have a setupwidget function Mar 08 17:49:53 newb question Mar 08 17:50:26 any advice for a newb learning to deal with the ajax request in webos? Mar 08 17:51:31 it is simple enough when i deal with it in js over the web (cross-domain is tricky..) but within mojo, eck Mar 08 17:52:12 most webos tutorials tell you WHAT to do, I want to know WHY Mar 08 17:57:35 Chriswebos: you still have to do the setupWidget for the app menu in each scene. but you can define the menu model & attribs and handleCommand in the stage assistant to make things simpler. Mar 08 17:58:00 yeah thats it Mar 08 17:58:10 i know i saw something once regarding the app menu in the stageassistant Mar 08 18:08:37 haeffb_asleep: could you please elaborate? how could I put the handlecommand in stageassistant? Mar 08 18:08:58 do i just define the function, and it's automagically added to command chain? Mar 08 18:09:04 you...uh...put it in stage assistant. Mar 08 18:09:09 yes. Mar 08 18:09:31 the command chain goes thru the scene assistant to the stage assistant to the app assistant. Mar 08 18:10:13 the scene doesn't handle it, the stage does. if the stage doesn't, the app does. If none do, then it goes to chuqui. He takes care of everything that no on else does. Mar 08 18:10:36 heh Mar 08 18:10:48 okay, let me try it out Mar 08 18:11:58 chuqui: Here's a suggestion. PLEASE let the developer know before their app is "Featured" in the catalog. Mar 08 18:12:13 someone didn't? Mar 08 18:12:33 Ideally, with enough advance notice that they can submit any pending releases, to fix bugs or whatever. Mar 08 18:12:42 I'll talk to the biz team on that.. Mar 08 18:12:55 Myles showed up as featured last week, & I didn't even know until JenP pointed it ou. Mar 08 18:12:58 out. Mar 08 18:13:56 that reminds me i gotta call the palm specialist team back.. they keep getting my voicemail and i already fixed the issue the initial CSR couldnt Mar 08 18:14:46 pop me an email on that? that both reminds me to do it (I have a short stack right now) and an easy forward in with the info... Mar 08 18:14:56 gets your words in to the team, not my interpretation. Mar 08 18:14:57 I've got a new version ready to go *this week*. Mar 08 18:15:01 okay, well, it gets BOTH. Mar 08 18:15:12 since I usually kibbitz Mar 08 18:15:12 Will do. Mar 08 18:16:29 yiddish even, chuqui has it all Mar 08 18:23:08 I need to learn how to make windows 7 Device Stages Mar 08 18:23:33 because I want one for the pre Mar 08 18:27:51 chuqui: is there an official way to get your app featured? all i have is a snippet i got in this channel from something someone got from their handler a while back, and those of us who submitted after jan 7 obviously have no handler Mar 08 18:28:10 whats a handler Mar 08 18:28:21 if you want it considered, send me an eamil. I'll forwrd the request in to the biz team that manages it. Mar 08 18:30:33 digitalpowers: early developers apparently had a direct contact for all issues, problems, questions etc for their apps, rather than having to bug chuq all the time Mar 08 18:30:53 the president has handlers Mar 08 18:31:00 like bears have handlers Mar 08 18:35:40 hi Mar 08 18:36:03 innnteresting.... Mar 08 18:36:07 my app froze Mar 08 18:36:28 wait, scratch that Mar 08 18:36:32 my menu froze Mar 08 18:39:18 paid apps in Germany on end of March Mar 08 18:43:43 MetaView: officially? or is that a rumor heard from a friend of a guy who knows a dev? Mar 08 18:43:59 no, it was told me in an email from palm, an official one Mar 08 18:44:22 they also pointed to the free 3D games downloads which last until 31th of march Mar 08 18:59:48 evening Mar 08 19:00:05 morning Mar 08 19:06:38 MetaView: great Mar 08 19:09:26 Monkey? Mar 08 19:09:42 grrrr Mar 08 19:09:45 stupid java program Mar 08 19:20:31 JS question: I have an array of objects. How do I remove all objects that have a property meeting certain criteria? Mar 08 19:20:50 i.e. if object[i].date > thisDate Mar 08 19:20:57 I would run through the array with a iterator Mar 08 19:21:08 set the bad objects to null Mar 08 19:21:14 then run compact() Mar 08 19:21:28 awesome Mar 08 19:21:59 I usually use split() to remove an item from an array Mar 08 19:22:09 much better than my solution of beating them out with a stick Mar 08 19:22:53 err Mar 08 19:22:55 not split Mar 08 19:22:57 splice Mar 08 19:23:23 myArray.splice(IndexOfItemToDelete, 1); Mar 08 19:23:28 but what if objects 3, 5 and 11 have a property meeting the criteria? Mar 08 19:23:45 wait, what is compact() ? Mar 08 19:24:08 compact returns an array with no null items in it Mar 08 19:24:20 ah good point Mar 08 19:24:34 is a javascript array method? Mar 08 19:24:51 I do not see it here: http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_obj_array.asp Mar 08 19:24:57 So if I set myArray[2]=null Mar 08 19:25:28 actually, I think its a prototype methog Mar 08 19:25:42 * halfhalo_T400 never uses plain old javascript anymore Mar 08 19:27:04 http://api.prototypejs.org/language/array.html#compact-instance_method Mar 08 19:27:26 wait, splice would work if you went myArray.splice(index, 1), wouldn't it? Mar 08 19:27:38 and just ran that on every object you needed? Mar 08 19:27:40 yes Mar 08 19:27:44 well Mar 08 19:27:47 sort of Mar 08 19:27:58 SEe above Mar 08 19:28:27 once you remove one item from the array using splice, all the indexes of shift Mar 08 19:28:50 break from the loop and run it again Mar 08 19:28:55 right Mar 08 19:29:02