**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 17 02:59:57 2010 Mar 17 03:00:51 rwhitby: Yes, I was able to create a profile. Mar 17 03:01:33 chandler: so profile creation did not depend upon activation of the phone. good. Mar 17 03:02:50 Odd; it's trying to teach me how to use gestures. It wants me to try the up gesture, but that just puts me into card view and the demo is unsatisfied. I guess it really depends on running the activation before the launcher is active, so it can receive that gesture. Mar 17 03:03:14 No matter; at this point I think I can just dispense with the first run tool. Mar 17 03:04:30 yep, once the profile is logged in, just throw away that card Mar 17 03:05:02 And the catalog works, so everything must be fine with the profile. Mar 17 03:05:28 Wow. Installing applications is a lot faster than on iPhone OS or Android. Mar 17 03:07:43 chandler: we know Mar 17 03:08:41 (Sorry.) Mar 17 03:11:06 did that flash beta ever come out? Mar 17 03:11:30 chandler: have you intalled Preware yet? Mar 17 03:12:00 (if you have novaterm connecting, then the easiest way is with the preware-bootstrap script) Mar 17 03:12:47 No, I haven't. I'll look at it - for now I'm still kicking the tires on this thing, and then will be spending some time with the SDK. Mar 17 03:12:57 chandler: then you get to see the other 1000+ packages that the app catalog doesn't have, including the optware command line installer which then gives access to yet another 1600+ linux command line packages Mar 17 03:13:15 <_azdak> Has anybody gotten a single app to play more than one audio object at once? Mar 17 03:13:24 chandler: (and the 300 patches you can apply to webOS) Mar 17 03:21:46 _azdak: i believe it's not possible, given the current official APIs available in the SDK all use the same backend method Mar 17 03:22:06 chandler: also, i'm not sure if there's room for more than 1 Preware-pusher in here, but you should really install it. Mar 17 03:23:26 <_azdak> zsoc- Yeah, that's what it sure looks like on this end. I saw the performance warning about playing multiple audio files simultaneously in the SDK audio section and got all excited :( Mar 17 03:25:19 _azdak: I'm literally not so sure it's possible. I'm not familiar with the APIs being used, but one could probably catch them in action with some pulseaudio magic Mar 17 03:25:51 It's definitely possible to integrate. If I had to guess, Palm is probably trying to figure out a way to do it without completely destroying performance. Mar 17 03:32:57 <_azdak> zsoc: Yeah, I don't really doubt the hardware could somehow handle it, but it looks to be just a limitation of the current API- no matter how I try it, it seems to only allow a single channel Mar 17 03:33:40 <_azdak> which is lousy, because the 1.4 audio upgrades are significant enough to make one get ambitious haha Mar 17 03:35:06 _azdak: well they are all being handled by the same PA module (pdefaultapp) if I had to guess Mar 17 03:43:43 <_azdak> zsoc: I guess no ambient audio for me :P Mar 17 03:44:03 _azdak: tons of ambient audio... just not in the app-cat ;) Mar 17 03:44:20 _azdak: what api's are used for audio? i'll take a look at them Mar 17 03:46:04 <_azdak> zsoc: http://bit.ly/aEgML7 Mar 17 03:47:20 ugh, brain needs to be in a different mode to read that page, i love abstraction lol Mar 17 03:48:43 interesting Mar 17 03:48:51 ok, bookmarked, i'll let you know Mar 17 04:53:26 ladies Mar 17 04:54:19 Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssss? Mar 17 04:54:23 wait a second.... Mar 17 04:55:03 anyone know how to get the direction of a drag event? Mar 17 04:55:28 other than like, taking two points and comparing them Mar 17 04:55:35 nope Mar 17 04:57:23 there is no such thing as a direction Mar 17 04:57:31 as far as the drag goes Mar 17 04:57:48 theres coords of cursor as you drag Mar 17 04:57:54 up to you to decide where the cursor is going Mar 17 04:59:35 anyone know if I can simulate a... have to perform some special action to exit an app Mar 17 04:59:58 eg, override the swipe left at root scene Mar 17 05:01:00 I know Mar 17 05:01:19 not a fantastic for fitting within UIGuidelines Mar 17 05:01:26 but there is a legit reason Mar 17 05:09:43 top of the evening Mar 17 05:23:26 is there anything I can do to make the app less likely to be left Mar 17 05:23:33 nto to try an dforce people to use it Mar 17 05:23:48 but so people could give their phone to a kid and not get all sorts of phone numbers dialed Mar 17 05:26:01 not quite sure Mar 17 05:32:56 How many touches can webOS handle at once? Mar 17 05:33:20 .5 Mar 17 05:33:33 Excellent! Thanks. :D Mar 17 05:33:58 thats what it seems like anyway Mar 17 05:47:27 uhh did palm change sdk stuff in portal Mar 17 05:47:33 lots of new shit Mar 17 05:50:48 ron_frown: we do what we must, because we can Mar 17 05:53:29 how is everything going in the palm world? Mar 17 05:53:49 been away for 5 about a week Mar 17 05:54:14 wha? Mar 17 05:55:23 yeah webos Mar 17 05:58:22 geist: are you a palm guy? Mar 17 06:00:44 yeah Mar 17 06:01:25 mostly was just trying to do a good aperture science joke there Mar 17 06:01:45 ok Mar 17 06:02:19 nice Mar 17 06:05:07 whats the concept of createing a new oo class and instantiating it Mar 17 06:05:16 just create new prototype in a seperate .js file? Mar 17 06:05:24 then new MyObj()? Mar 17 06:16:07 question: how do i add a class to an element? Mar 17 06:16:16 er, in javascript Mar 17 06:35:36 or, alternately: can someone help me use mojo.animate.animatestyle? Mar 17 06:39:49 last I looked there was only 2 options or something Mar 17 06:42:51 i don't know what to pass it for "element" Mar 17 06:53:22 uhh Mar 17 06:53:45 what does a button tap send... the button element itself right? Mar 17 07:16:18 anyone know what would cause RangeError: Maximum call stack size exceeded? Mar 17 07:16:25 I dont have a infinite loop or anything Mar 17 07:16:35 infact I dont think I have any loops Mar 17 08:09:13 success Mar 17 08:09:21 I think I figured out the gd sound stuff Mar 17 10:22:08 Hi. Is there any framework for the web that provide webOS look 'n feel, like the iUI? Mar 17 10:23:21 I suppose you could take the CSS files for webos and use them in a webpage =) Mar 17 11:14:19 you'd need all their img borders too... I suspsect it's a lot easier to get going than it would be for "iUI" (not that I've heard of it); since the webos gui is very much html... Mar 17 11:20:26 Tried copied webOS's html. It doesn't work well. eg. the button have only one state Mar 17 11:22:16 right. The webos gui is html+css+images+javascript. You'll need the whole thing to get it going. Caveat: that code is probably not open source and it's probably not OK to put on the web Mar 17 11:22:25 however, it's all right there in cleartext for you to use Mar 17 11:22:59 it's not going to be a straight forward file copy either, but I'm confident all the peices are there for you to get it going, if you're so inclined Mar 17 11:29:04 Well I'd assume it's a straight copy if you can access the directory where the files are located on the device Mar 17 11:29:55 I copied that out, and modified it. Now it going to load the main scene Mar 17 11:41:45 jettero: what is abouth the mojo-widgets? Mar 17 11:42:02 are they plain html+javascript? or are plugins involved there? Mar 17 11:59:39 OK. I got Mojo running on the web, but seems that Palm SDK 1.4.0.420 won't load the page Mar 17 12:31:19 Anyone know when the Adult Filter will be up and running? Mar 17 12:49:14 any smatto user out there? Mar 17 12:58:25 Anyone know when the Adult Filter will be up and running? Mar 17 12:58:51 or when the European paid apps will eventually kick-off? Mar 17 12:59:42 TheBounder: 31.3 is said to be kick-off date for paid apps Mar 17 13:20:31 marnin Mar 17 13:43:18 does anyone know how to associate a specific filetype to a webos application? so if I create XYZ reader, if I recieve an email with filename.xyz it will launch my app when opening the file. Mar 17 16:03:55 question: can anyone help me out with animating styles using Mojo.Animation.animateStyle? Mar 17 16:09:56 or... not... Mar 17 16:09:59 it's so quiet in here -_- Mar 17 16:10:37 *yawn* Mar 17 16:11:09 * Tibfib yawns Mar 17 16:11:12 * dthought drops a pin Mar 17 16:12:20 what are you up to, everyone?! :) Mar 17 16:13:01 * dthought is at work Mar 17 16:13:23 * Tibfib is sitting in bed, with a box of tissues by his side Mar 17 16:13:26 comparing documents, checking for changes in the documents and incorporating them... Mar 17 16:13:35 * dthought wishes Tibfib to get well Mar 17 16:14:12 hah, thanks Mar 17 16:14:59 think you'll still have some break left by the time you're better? Mar 17 16:15:15 We'll see... :/ Mar 17 16:16:04 Tibfib: you're from usa? Mar 17 16:16:08 yep Mar 17 16:16:46 i got no clue how it is handled there... how does illness and job interact over there? Mar 17 16:17:00 hah, I'm 15. It's spring break Mar 17 16:17:02 * dthought is from germany. Mar 17 16:17:04 ah. Lol Mar 17 16:17:08 well ,-) Mar 17 16:17:44 dthought: we get a certain number of sick days, usually, i think? Mar 17 16:18:32 jlazaroff: like holiday days, but days you only may take if you prove that you are ill. How many depends on your boss/employer? Mar 17 16:19:08 dthought: think so, yeah Mar 17 16:20:00 i'm still in college, though, so i've only really worked like minimum-wage jobs Mar 17 16:20:15 where the sick day policy is "you can only take off if you find someone to cover your shift" xD Mar 17 16:20:28 lol Mar 17 16:20:41 my sick day policy... is I dont have one Mar 17 16:20:51 I just don't show up Mar 17 16:21:35 when i'm sick, i'll get a sick certificate from the doctor. My employee MUST continue to pay my wage... (it changes after 6 weeks of continuous illness, then i'd only get a reduced "sick-wage") Mar 17 16:21:45 halfhalo_T400: what do you do? Mar 17 16:21:48 halfhalo_T400: will you get paid when you don't show up? Mar 17 16:22:30 employer of course. sorry ; Mar 17 16:22:42 No, I don't get paid if I don't show up, and I'm a Student Assistant Web Dev for CSUN Mar 17 16:23:23 aaaah, workstudy? Mar 17 16:23:29 nope Mar 17 16:23:53 Work Study is limited to 10 bucks an hour and 10 hours a week Mar 17 16:24:13 oh, really? Mar 17 16:24:23 for me it's just $1500 per academic year Mar 17 16:24:24 Student Assistants are limited to 20 a week, plus 40 on weeks with no class, and 15+ an hour Mar 17 16:24:35 lol Mar 17 16:24:40 oh, wow Mar 17 16:24:43 sounds like a good gig Mar 17 16:25:00 Considering I just cashed my last paycheck yesterday for 800 bucks, thats really sad you only get 1500 a yeae Mar 17 16:25:03 year* Mar 17 16:25:15 yeah -_- Mar 17 16:25:24 well i supplement it with freelance web design Mar 17 16:25:26 that's $20/hr Mar 17 16:25:33 lol Mar 17 16:25:35 made 600 for the last job :) Mar 17 16:25:56 I do freelance work sometimes as well, but meh Mar 17 16:25:59 not for a while Mar 17 16:26:33 it's so nice though Mar 17 16:26:48 everything's so flexible Mar 17 16:26:49 yeah Mar 17 16:26:53 but im lazy Mar 17 16:27:23 fair enough Mar 17 16:31:09 well, I feel retarted Mar 17 16:31:23 I was checking the wrong cookie for avatars Mar 17 16:34:07 those are the worst kind of errors Mar 17 16:35:57 hmmmmm Mar 17 16:36:03 steamFriends is failing Mar 17 16:38:52 argh Mar 17 16:39:05 ? Mar 17 16:39:08 anyone know why this isn't animating? Mar 17 16:39:28 Mojo.Animation.animateStyle (this.refreshIndicator, "margin-top", -100, -100, 0); Mar 17 16:40:20 nope Mar 17 16:40:39 this.refreshIndicator.bind(this) ? Mar 17 16:41:26 oh thats not a function sorry :P Mar 17 16:45:32 oh, whoops, the function that was inside of wasn't calling Mar 17 16:46:06 the first -100 is the fromValue but the second -100 is the toValue. should be: element, css-attribute, -100, 0, seconds Mar 17 16:48:35 aaah, okay Mar 17 16:52:18 um. weird error now Mar 17 16:52:31 Mojo.Animation.animateStyle (this.refreshIndicator, "margin-top", -100, 0, 1); Mar 17 16:52:37 TypeError: Cannot call method 'toUpperCase' of undefined Mar 17 17:06:17 dammit dammit dammit Mar 17 17:08:13 Monroe: whats up? Mar 17 17:08:26 hello all... Mar 17 17:09:07 I'm writing a class to abstract the sql lite database methods ... I've got it working ... but only for one query ... Subsequent queries fail Mar 17 17:13:07 Can someone tell is you can call modelchanged on a command menu item that has an eventListener attached to it? Mar 17 17:13:40 What happens to the eventLister after calling modelchanged? Mar 17 17:13:56 hmm .. I've never attached an eventListener to a command menu? Mar 17 17:14:05 Monroe, is the db locking up? Mar 17 17:14:17 not sure ... I'm trying to debug now Mar 17 17:14:44 my sql query is failing ... trying to figure out why Mar 17 17:15:21 Monroe, I need it for a mousedown, and hold event. Mar 17 17:15:55 Everything works fine until I call modelchange. Mar 17 17:16:33 ah Mar 17 17:17:02 maybe when you change the model you have to dispose of the listener and recreate it? Mar 17 17:17:11 I'm really not sure on that Mar 17 17:17:15 the code is here, if anyone would be kind enough to look at it: http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=5916 Mar 17 17:17:26 well ... progress Mar 17 17:17:35 ? Mar 17 17:18:21 My first query creates "table1" ... upon success it runs another query to insert a couple values in to table1 ... that query fails with "no such table: table1" Mar 17 17:18:23 gah! Mar 17 17:18:28 Monroe, tried that. It still doesn't work. Mar 17 17:18:42 I JUST created table1!! Mar 17 17:20:50 question: how do i set a style with javascript? Mar 17 17:21:03 mah laptop is really slow right now Mar 17 17:21:33 you mean a class or just a css prop? Mar 17 17:21:42 halfhalo_T400: css property Mar 17 17:22:06 this.controller.get().style.display="none" Mar 17 17:22:19 replace display and none with the style you want Mar 17 17:22:28 ooh Mar 17 17:22:34 I think I figured out my problem Mar 17 17:22:35 sweet Mar 17 17:22:58 jlazaroff or $('el').style.left =yadayada Mar 17 17:23:29 where el is the element id, and left would be the property your styling Mar 17 17:23:33 I think I'm gotta re-write one of my scenes to use data pulled from the scene before it Mar 17 17:24:02 data reuse .. a novell idea! :) Mar 17 17:24:31 well, I originally had it repulling since I was using a different datasource, but now... Mar 17 17:26:10 so anyway, anyone have any ideas regarding using modelchanged on an element that has an eventListener attached, namely the command menu? Mar 17 17:28:21 midtown: wish I could be of more assistance ... Mar 17 17:42:24 is there any way to force a set of functions to be executed sequentially? Mar 17 17:42:47 Myfunc() { Mar 17 17:42:49 err Mar 17 17:42:58 call them sequentially? Mar 17 17:45:02 or, rather Mar 17 17:45:10 to make sure that each one finishes before the next begins Mar 17 17:45:15 without having a whole bunch of callbacks Mar 17 17:46:00 hmm ... let's make sure we're on the same page ... are these regular functions, or asynchronus functions? Mar 17 17:46:30 regular functions don't run asynchronusly, so you can just call each one and it'll run before the next ... Mar 17 17:48:38 okay, silly question Mar 17 17:48:41 sorry -_- Mar 17 17:48:46 :) Mar 17 17:49:35 now if one of them is an asynchronus function, or their is an asynchronus call inside one of the functions ... then it's a whole different story Mar 17 17:49:54 And yeah, then you are probably stuck with callbacks Mar 17 17:50:27 You might be able to use the notification chain, but I'm not certain Mar 17 17:50:51 if u have 2 or 3 async calls dependent on eachother that could be offloaded into a class that will chain them and keep it organized Mar 17 17:52:09 if its a database thing people have written batching code Mar 17 17:54:03 I'm writing a database abstraction class right now that allows for single or batched queries :) Mar 17 17:54:31 question Mar 17 17:54:34 I have 2 vars: var var1 = "name"; var var2 = "Monroe"; Mar 17 17:54:43 Is it possible to use the above to create a json object that would look like: Mar 17 17:54:50 myObj = {name: "Monroe"}; Mar 17 17:55:17 var obj = new Object; obj[var1] = var2 Mar 17 17:55:50 I would just go: var myObj=[]; myObj['name']=Monroe; myObj.toJSON(); Mar 17 17:56:42 then it would also have a { length: 0 }. wouldn't use an array indexer to create an object. Mar 17 17:57:53 meh, its just the way I do it Mar 17 17:58:28 Monroe: are you going to release it publicly? Mar 17 17:58:49 jlazaroff: sure Mar 17 17:59:39 i tried writing a class like that, but failed miserably -_- Mar 17 18:04:18 anyone know whether the animation methods are asynchronous? Mar 17 18:06:41 the methods are not async per say, but you can specify a callback to be notified when the animation has completed. Mar 17 18:07:40 dylanmei: what i'm trying to get working is animate an element to slide down, make an ajax request/add elements to a list, then animate the element sliding up Mar 17 18:07:52 in that order, with each step completing before the next begins Mar 17 18:08:01 ah okay then you want the callback Mar 17 18:09:23 but if its only a second we are talking about why not start the animation. start the request at the same time on the next line. Mar 17 18:09:41 DYNOMITE! Mar 17 18:10:10 when you've added the elements then roll back the animation. the request doesn't have to be dependent on the animation completing if we're only talking about a 1 second animation. Mar 17 18:11:18 my opinion unless i don't understand. get it working simply and if you're unsatisfied then make it more complex. Mar 17 18:13:05 lol ... now I can't generate an error even when I try :) Mar 17 18:56:37 hi there Mar 17 19:05:51 Hello Mar 17 19:12:24 hallo Mar 17 19:17:06 FOR ZE MOTHERLAND! Mar 17 19:19:52 My laptop died so I can't mess with steamfriends Mar 17 19:19:58 * halfhalo_T400 *sadpandaface* Mar 17 19:22:02 lo siento Mar 17 19:30:57 day 3 of waiting for a metadata update to go through (changed support email address) Mar 17 19:34:24 woo Mar 17 19:34:32 1.0.0 of Dice Roller released today. Mar 17 19:35:07 Dangit, stupid people Mar 17 19:35:26 Got another 0* review... "I don't get it" Mar 17 19:36:11 Kuraiou: congrats Mar 17 19:36:39 tibfib: it's annoying, and honestly they shouldn't be reviewing something they don't understand Mar 17 19:36:49 buuuut Mar 17 19:36:53 this is for Countdown, right? Mar 17 19:36:56 yep Mar 17 19:37:00 It may do to have a puzzle or tutorial mode Mar 17 19:37:06 something to guide the dumb people Mar 17 19:37:12 I'm making one... Mar 17 19:37:20 cool^^ Mar 17 19:37:38 But stillll... I need to put a warning in my app description: Requires intelligence to play! Mar 17 19:37:44 haha Mar 17 19:37:46 DO IT Mar 17 19:37:56 Make people feel bad... hah Mar 17 19:38:08 I think i just might. Mar 17 19:38:16 I would Mar 17 19:38:21 but then again, I'm a bastard Mar 17 19:41:35 hah, I'm just tired of bad reviews from people that aren't smart enough to open up the how-to Mar 17 19:43:24 (which i recommend to them on the very first page) Mar 17 19:44:21 jlazaroff: you still around? Mar 17 19:45:56 oh well. I finished by Database abstraction class ... guess he doesn't want it :) Mar 17 19:46:03 s/by/my Mar 17 19:48:53 hate all that db.transaction(function(transaction) ( executeSql( ..... Mar 17 19:49:17 lol Mar 17 19:49:18 same Mar 17 19:49:22 now I can just do this.db.runQuery(sql, successcallback, failcallback); Mar 17 19:49:23 but not using a db right now Mar 17 19:50:03 there he is Mar 17 19:50:11 sup slazaroff Mar 17 19:50:14 err Mar 17 19:50:19 jlazaroff Mar 17 19:50:21 lol Mar 17 19:50:51 I think my fingers were trying to type "slacker off", which is what I"m doing at work today :) Mar 17 19:56:07 Monroe: did you post it somewhere? Mar 17 20:00:16 kmudrick ... I can if you'd like Mar 17 20:00:45 * Monroe prepares zip file Mar 17 20:02:15 Monroe: I'd be interested as well Mar 17 20:02:28 I'm using lots of db crap for my chat app Mar 17 20:02:49 what chat app Mar 17 20:03:05 http://tibfib.com/ Mar 17 20:03:08 theres a vid there Mar 17 20:03:16 bbm style chat app Mar 17 20:04:04 shiny Mar 17 20:04:10 using mojo messaging? Mar 17 20:04:21 the service? Mar 17 20:04:28 yeah Mar 17 20:04:31 not yet Mar 17 20:04:36 ... Mar 17 20:04:41 For notifications I will Mar 17 20:04:50 http://www.bradball.net/files/webos/SQL%20Abstraction%20Demo.zip Mar 17 20:04:53 I haven't completely decided how it's going to work Mar 17 20:04:54 get it while it's hot Mar 17 20:07:10 got it thanks Mar 17 20:07:39 me too Mar 17 20:07:39 thanks Mar 17 20:07:59 very nice, gonna have to implement this! Mar 17 20:08:13 no prob Mar 17 20:08:25 Monroe: should get a github account and post on there too :() Mar 17 20:08:42 I probably should you're right Mar 17 20:14:48 Monroe: ah, sorry. what's up? Mar 17 20:15:14 He just had a proposition for you Mar 17 20:15:23 but he decided to pay me instead Mar 17 20:15:57 D': Mar 17 20:16:19 would it happen to regard the .zip file i just downloaded? :P Mar 17 20:16:37 ...dang, you figured it out.... Mar 17 20:19:09 Didn't think it be that fast >.< Mar 17 20:19:23 muahahahahaha Mar 17 20:20:17 installing now Mar 17 20:20:47 hmm... has anyone had problems with virtual box lately? Mar 17 20:20:50 github is nice, but bitbucket is free :) Mar 17 20:21:00 or rather, you get one private repository for free with bitbucket. Mar 17 20:21:08 and it doesn't have any BS collaborator limit. Mar 17 20:22:17 man, i need to start learning sql i guess -_- Mar 17 20:22:22 guess that's a no. Mar 17 20:22:31 wee Mar 17 20:22:40 Monroe: thanks for the class :) Mar 17 20:22:44 no prob Mar 17 20:22:45 Tibfib: what do you man? Mar 17 20:23:02 ...O.o Mar 17 20:23:23 It just freezes and quits when I try and launch apps installed Mar 17 20:23:39 ...oh. hm. Mar 17 20:23:52 weak Mar 17 20:23:54 but only some of them Mar 17 20:23:56 reisntall? Mar 17 20:24:09 i mean, there have been times that i've had to restart/reinstall the emulator for my app to work Mar 17 20:24:25 Yeah, I've restarted it several times Mar 17 20:24:31 as well as restarted my laptop Mar 17 20:24:43 no i mean delete and reinstall the emulator in virtualbox Mar 17 20:24:54 Monroe: I'll try that Mar 17 20:25:05 It's probably time to install the new sdk anyway Mar 17 20:25:30 (been running the beta) Mar 17 20:48:27 goddamn unit testing is annoying sometimes Mar 17 20:48:40 just skip it Mar 17 20:48:45 ;) Mar 17 20:51:30 Monroe: Blasphemy! Mar 17 20:56:24 morning Mar 17 21:04:15 my coworker yells at me and gets pissy if I don't write tests. Mar 17 21:04:27 and, really, he's right, tests are a good thing. Mar 17 21:04:33 it's just it takes me a long time to write them sometimes. Mar 17 21:04:35 yes :) Mar 17 21:04:37 morning rwhitby. Mar 17 21:04:49 like, I could've spent this hour fixing 3 outstanding bugs Mar 17 21:05:03 instead of step-through debugging why something I already know works (I tested it) didn't work in the test case Mar 17 21:15:04 hah, I bored everyone to death. Mar 17 21:15:08 * Kuraiou stands on their corpses and cackles.. Mar 17 21:15:25 so it looks like I'm gonna port my app over to Android Mar 17 21:15:26 hrmmm Mar 17 21:17:38 Kuraiou: what app? Mar 17 21:17:50 dangit, didn't we go over this yesterday? Mar 17 21:17:59 not with me.... Mar 17 21:18:02 hrm Mar 17 21:18:04 Dice Roller Mar 17 21:18:06 Or i wasn't paying attention Mar 17 21:18:16 my friend has a droid and programs, and is willing to help me port stuff over. Mar 17 21:18:17 Oh yeah, you said that earlier, today Mar 17 21:18:44 nice Mar 17 21:26:39 good evening Mar 17 21:30:16 evenin' Mar 17 21:31:00 Eurpeans :) Mar 17 21:31:03 +o Mar 17 21:45:38 okay, time to take my c++ final Mar 17 21:45:40 see you later, everyone! Mar 17 21:45:43 ha Mar 17 21:45:58 thats better than my ASM class at least Mar 17 22:09:02 Anyone happen to know if there's an NNTP client for WebOS? Mar 17 22:09:23 Besides the obvious CLI ones you could probably get via the terminal Mar 17 22:10:30 there is Mar 17 22:10:35 in homebrew Mar 17 22:10:45 and there is some http-based time server Mar 17 22:10:50 time client Mar 17 22:11:19 hey Mar 17 22:11:55 MetaView: well I have preware and all that jazz. Do you happen to remember any specifics about the NNTP client? Mar 17 22:12:29 and NNTP != NTP Mar 17 22:12:35 network news (usenet) vs network time Mar 17 22:13:18 oh, network news... hm Mar 17 22:13:34 then I don't know Mar 17 22:14:39 hehe. thanks anyways :) Mar 17 22:14:57 might finally get me off my bum and learn how to code for this thing. Mar 17 22:15:25 you might port a qt-based opensource NNTP app for WIDK Mar 17 22:16:00 Hmm... the only QT ones that come to mind are either bad, or tightly integrated with KDE's libraries Mar 17 22:16:45 and i don't have the chops to port someone else's work. I'd be lucky to understand most of the code as-is Mar 17 22:17:22 swisstomcat: aha :) Mar 17 22:17:38 gut heimgekommen in diesem fall :) Mar 17 22:19:24 noaXess: i'll send you the poster to check Mar 17 22:19:46 swisstomcat: jep.. :).. thats fine. Mar 17 22:19:55 skype? Mar 17 22:20:01 yeah Mar 17 22:20:09 or email.. Mar 17 22:27:04 g'night Mar 17 22:43:17 so it seems that webos applications are written in javascript. can you use more 'proper' languages and still have webos-like behavior? Mar 17 22:43:59 draeath: what is a proper language? Mar 17 22:44:37